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[Fnord]

Is DC Moving Too Fast By Introducing Wonder Woman In Batman Vs. Superman?



At San Diego Comic-Con this past summer, Zack Snyder and Warner Bros. – with a little help from actor Harry Lennix – announced news that long-time comic book fans have been waiting their whole lives to hear. It was revealed that the upcoming Man of Steel sequel would have Batman and Superman in a live-action feature film together for the very first time. Geeks worldwide began buzzing about possibilities, wondering and imagining how the classic superhero characters would either face off or team up against a mutual threat. "World's Finest" comics came down off the shelf and we were all reminded of the great showdown at the end of Frank Miller's "The Dark Knight Returns."

But now we know that the 2015 blockbuster won't just be about the Caped Crusader and the Man of Tomorrow.

Earlier today it was officially confirmed by both Snyder and Warner Bros. that Fast & Furious actress Gal Gadot has joined the cast of the Man of Steel sequel and will be playing Princess Diana of Themyscira, best known to audiences as Wonder Woman. It's been suggested that she will be one of the female leads in the movie – which already has Amy Adams coming back as Lois Lane – and if that's true she could wind up having a huge impact on the film's plot. But if that does turn out to be the case, what would make the colloquially-named Batman vs. Superman any different from a Justice League movie?

Regardless of whether it's a lead role or just a bit part, the introduction of Wonder Woman into the DC Cinematic Universe is going to require a good amount of detail and explanation. In addition to setting up Gotham City as a location in the world outside of Metropolis (not to mention Batman's supporting characters), the film would likely also have to dive into the history of Themyscira and the culture of the Amazons in order to provide background and explain why Wonder Woman can do what she does. Adding all of this information would require the movie to have a huge increase in scale just so that the character doesn't seem overshadowed or underused. It's hard to see how that wouldn't have a major impact on the launch of the new Batman, and if the movie is just about introducing new heroes it could end up partially undercutting the specialness of any future Justice League project.

What makes the developing production even more curious is that it doesn't look like Wonder Woman will be the last superhero added to the film's roster. Toward the end of their article reporting Gadot's casting, Variety says that The Flash is a lock to "make an appearance in some fashion, whether that's a significant role or a cameo." If it's a big role it will only draw more attention away from Batman and Superman, but – possibly more importantly – if it is just a cameo I don't want to hear about it until I get to see the film for myself.

Obviously there's nothing wrong with having multiple superheroes in the same movie –the issue is more about building up to something. Marvel Studios released five solo films on the path towards making The Avengers, making sure that all of the major characters got proper introductions so that it actually meant something when they all came together. These new developments with the Man of Steel sequel suggest that the filmmakers and the studio aren't comfortable with the one-hero-at-a-time route and want something that closely resembles a Justice League film sooner rather than later. The risk that is run with this is just piling too much into one feature, and as Iron Man 2 and Spider-Man 3 showed us, the results can be less than desirable.

It's not exactly hard to see the endgame that's in mind from all of these developments. DC Comics and Warner Bros. wants to create a cinematic universe that can compete with what has been constructed over at Marvel Studios, and that ultimately will lead to the creation of a Justice League movie. But are they moving too fast by potentially introducing as many as three new superheroes in the first sequel to Man of Steel?

[Mike Powers]

First they introduced a brand new Batman to this world.  Now they want to just throw Wonder Woman and Flash in there, cold?  This is falling apart faster and faster.

[Black Death]

This call the movie Trinity

be done with it 

[Gravedigger]

Question for those more familiar with the Justice League than myself...

Were all DC villains involved in the comics? For example, would it make sense, in the world of the Justice League, to see The Joker? I'm not familiar with what was/wasn't used, so figured at least one of you would know more about it.

[GM Franchise]

I wonder when the DC Multiverse will be added to this. Pretty soon at this rate.

[Fnord]

I don't understand the question.

You mean like this...

[Gravedigger]

What I meant was do they use everything DC. I could be wrong, but as far as I am aware, The Avengers, X-Men, The Fantastic Four, etc. in Marvel pretty much stayed separate, at least in the old days. Iron Man and Hulk weren't going after Magneto or Dr. Doom. So what I was wondering is if DC did the same and kept things separate, or did they cross over more often, like having the Justice League take on The Joker and Lex Luthor.

[Fnord]

It all depends, I guess. Superheroes and Villains team up all the time. lol

[Gravedigger]

It's something I've always wondered when Iron Man was involved. Whomever he is up against should just call Magneto and render IM useless. 

[Fnord]

You should probably go to the comic book boards to discuss this since this thread is about the Batman VS Superman movie. lol But yeah... Villains are villains... so they don't get along to well. Who trusts The Joker?! lol

[Black Death]

What I meant was do they use everything DC. I could be wrong, but as far as I am aware, The Avengers, X-Men, The Fantastic Four, etc. in Marvel pretty much stayed separate, at least in the old days. Iron Man and Hulk weren't going after Magneto or Dr. Doom. So what I was wondering is if DC did the same and kept things separate, or did they cross over more often, like having the Justice League take on The Joker and Lex Luthor.

get a chance check out "Worlds Finest "  , but your answer is yes ... the  Major Villains have work with each other in the pages  of the Justice League. They normally don't last long, because it in there nature not trust each other. Double crosses happen or someone screws something up because their pushing there own agenda... things like that.   

I remember a storyline where the joker literary let the heroes get the advantage over the villains. Because he thought plan was bullshit and just walked away ... not before fucking it up only in the way the joker can lol

[Black Death]

Back to movie talk ... DC is going to mess it up , because there going into overload... Thought marvel put up the blue print . They introduce characters in there own movies and connected them.  After that they brought them together and went from there.  It worked ... DC play attention , it worked. You can do the same.

You don't need to do everything at once... Hell , give Wonder Woman her own movie ... I have the prefect story that you can tie  the Lynda Carter TV series into the movie and re-introduce her to the new world. Diana from the TV show got back to the island ... he takes over as queen and than  something else happen in the man world that ask for another person to be sent. She has her own daughter now and she is sent to stop it...  the god of war wants to bring a world war about so he can gain strength  again. Blam ... she stops it and stays to help out man's world , now she has to get use to this world ... it simply and we get her introduce 

[Ty]

We all assume. Til we see it, we don't know it'll be crap.

Screw Snyder though. He sucks

[GM Franchise]

Marvel has the PERFECT set up for their movies. They set things up over multiple movies and then go all out ala Avengers with all the stories coinciding together. DC should use that model instead of not setting everything up beforehand.

[Black Death]

reason were upset is because we want this to succeed ... you get the feeling there trying to hard and moving to fast.