Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub suffered what coach Gary Kubiak described Monday as a "significant" right foot injury against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and already has been ruled out for the team's next game.
Although Schaub's chances appear bleak, team and league sources said the Texans are holding out hope the quarterback, who's sidelined indefinitely, can play again this season and will exhaust all possibilities before making a decision to place him on injured reserve. That includes visits to other specialists, as one team official said the team is "still gathering data."
"It's disappointing, but we'll go to work and try to do the right thing by Matt," said Kubiak, who wouldn't say how much time Schaub will miss.
"There's a lot of things reported," Kubiak added. "He's going to be in a boot throughout this week, and then the evaluation process will continue."
Kubiak said the team was bringing in a specialist from Indianapolis to evaluate Schaub, and the quarterback would fly to Charlotte, N.C., later this week to undergo further examination.
The Houston Chronicle reported late Monday that Schaub is hoping the second opinion will help him avoid surgery to repair the Lisfranc joint in his foot.
At 7-3, the Texans have won four in a row and share the AFC's best record with the Pittsburgh Steelers. But the team would hesitate to place Schaub on injured reserve unless there was no chance of a return, perhaps even deep in the playoffs.
Kubiak said Schaub was injured on a quarterback sneak coming out of the end zone late during the second quarter of Houston's 37-9 victory over Tampa Bay. Schaub stayed in the game, but he threw just three passes.
Just as the Texans were putting a season together
Brutal if you're a texans fan
But at the same time, they're in a weak division and can still make a playoff run.
They will still make the playoffs because they rely heavily on the run anyway, but they won't be able to do anything in the playoffs with Leinart at QB.
Quote from: JustinP on November 15, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
They will still make the playoffs because they rely heavily on the run anyway, but they won't be able to do anything in the playoffs with Leinart at QB.
I'd agree with this statement, I don't see the playoffs being a problem and being a run heavy offense I'd say there are still ok. However, this really is the time for Leinart to prove he isn't a complete and utter bust.
Leinart's certainly playing for his career now. If he plays decent from here on out and somehow wins a playoff game (or puts up a noble effort), then he's going to catch on with a team looking for a QB and presumably out of the Andrew Luck sweepstakes (Washington and Seattle spring to mind) or a team needing a solid veteran backup (Indianapolis, Detroit, Denver, etc.). If he blows this golden opportunity and lays the proverbial egg, he's probably done for good. What good is a backup who can't keep you in games?
Speaking of QBs, I posted this article prematurely, as several other QBs went down in the past week. Kolb, Vick, Cassel, Big Ben, all went down with injuries as well. Of course, Schaub's injury is significant as the Texans have one of the better records in football right now.
This year, QBs are getting punished.
preseason is your friend
The ironic thing about all the QB injuries is all the new rules and penalties designed to protect them. Even with all this coddling, they're dropping like flies as we speak.
This is why it pays to get a good, experienced backup. Cassel is probably out for a while and they're left with Tyler Palko, who is a former CFL quarterback, and 5th round rookie Ricky Stanzi. The Chiefs aren't that great but they still had a a chance in that weak division. That's not going to be the case now.
well the Texans will make the playoffs , yes . all matt got to do is manage the game . he does not have to win it. they have a great running game that going to help him . Now after that is up for grabs
Leinart is a bust....if you can't throw it to one of the best receivers in Fitzgerald then I don't see how he can stand a chance. Foster will have to bail him out.
Speaking of the new rules protecting the QB...I have seen some outlandish calls, like personal fouls for someone's hand hitting a QB in the helmet. Really? It is frustrating.
I think they'll look at Free Agency. Is Garrard still around? I know he wanted to have a minor surgery, but this would be the ideal team. Mark Buldger is still around, he can play better than Leinart.
Garrard had a pretty substantial back injury he never told anyone about. From what I hear he had surgery and won't be available to a team until next year.
Bulger filed retirement papers, so he's done. Of course, if someone waved a wad of cash under his nose, he'd come back I'm sure. But I don't see it.
I'd be willing to give Leinart a chance first. He already knows the system and is familiar with the offense. We're getting a little late in the season to train an all new quarterback in a system. Their best chance to win is with Leinart under center. Besides, the Texans run the ball religiously, Leinart's only responsibilities is to feed the backs and take the pressure off Foster with a pass or two here and there.
Yeah, they won't look to FA this late in the season.
One thing that's drove me CRAZY this season is the amount of times teams have been forced to go to their back-up QB to start, and they immediately freak out and start reaching out all over the place. I.E. Colts/Kerry Collins; Oakland/Carson Palmer. I take a step back and wonder...what the hell they think the point of having a 2nd and 3rd string QB is. If you don't trust them at all to start a game, why the shit are guys like Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller on the roster in the first place. Let Leinart play, he's your back-up for a reason. Just manage him right. There are alot worse back-ups to have to play for an 'un-determined' amount of time, and the Texans have one of if not thee best Running Back in the league right now, Foster. Give him the game, and he'll win them just like he has been the past few weeks.
And I say this as a Jaguars fan...who, if we had a COUPLE more wins under our belt, I'd be excited at a chance to steal the division. But it's not our's or the Titans to win. It's Texans' to lose. Just coach the change right, and they won't lose it.
Quote from: Scott Rage on November 17, 2011, 08:09:07 PM
One thing that's drove me CRAZY this season is the amount of times teams have been forced to go to their back-up QB to start, and they immediately freak out and start reaching out all over the place. I.E. Colts/Kerry Collins; Oakland/Carson Palmer. I take a step back and wonder...what the hell they think the point of having a 2nd and 3rd string QB is. If you don't trust them at all to start a game, why the shit are guys like Curtis Painter and Kyle Boller on the roster in the first place. Let Leinart play, he's your back-up for a reason. Just manage him right. There are alot worse back-ups to have to play for an 'un-determined' amount of time, and the Texans have one of if not thee best Running Back in the league right now, Foster. Give him the game, and he'll win them just like he has been the past few weeks.
And I say this as a Jaguars fan...who, if we had a COUPLE more wins under our belt, I'd be excited at a chance to steal the division. But it's not our's or the Titans to win. It's Texans' to lose. Just coach the change right, and they won't lose it.
Exactly. I've been screaming it for years, if you don't have any faith in your backup, why is he your backup? Most of the time, teams will more or less sign a guy who will play (nay, sit) for the league minimum, just to take up space. They're gambling that their starter won't get hurt or become ineffective. But more often than not, they lose that gamble. Everyone and their bald-headed uncle knows that Kyle Boller sucks. So why Oakland made him their #2 QB is beyond me.
...and down goes Leinart
up steps T.J Yates
sucks for Leinart he was not doing that bad when he got hurt .
Someone put a voodoo curse on the Texans, that got to be it .
Well, if they don't want to stick with T.J. Yates, they did just sign Kellen Clemens a week or so ago. The guy never really got a fair shot on the Jets. A solid starter that I think come playoff time would give them a bit of a better chance to make any sort of noise than Yates.
P.S. My Jaguars...are...god...awful
T.J. Yates... the first UNC Tar Heel Quarterback to ever start an NFL Game...
Ronald Curry DOESNT COUNT lol he moved to WR before he started a game.
I'm not sold on Clemens. He had plenty of opportunities to show what he could do when backing up glass-jawed Chad Pennington. And he did almost nothing in that time period. By all accounts he's a swell guy, but he's nothing more than a passable backup who can fill a gap until a better-suited QB can take over.
They've also brought in Jeff Garcia, Brodie Croyle and Trent Edwards in for workouts. Garcia's name jumps out first, but he hasn't played in so long that he's probably not effective anymore. Croyle and Edwards are what they are, low-end QBs who probably won't offer much.
I say roll the dice with Yates. He's been in the system all year, let him try his hand at it. Best case scenario, he keeps the Texans in the playoffs and after the season's over, he'll garner trade interest. Worst case, he washes out and you chalk it up to another low-round pick.
Truth , Yates was not a bad college QB, He did some good stuff at UNC and he did well under Butch Davis' system, only problems was he was inconstant at times. having a great game one week and bad game the next.
so I think he can at least keep them winning , again you got a great running game and a solid defense , He does not have to win just maintain and not make to many mistakes
All the Texans need is someone willing to throw to Andre. They have a solid running game. I read a comment on NFL.com that Leinart just checked down when he was playing. But when Yates took to the field, he threw down the field often enough.
Leinart completed 10 passes for like 50 yards. Yates completed 10 for 80 yards. I think he was a little more effective anyway. Maybe the Texans sign a veteran like Garcia to help out Yates. Garcia has the know how, hopefully Yates has the talent.
Leinart wanted to play it safe and wanted to make himself look good to show that he was ready to be a starter, hence the reason he checked down with his passes.
i watch the game , Leinart was playing it smart , and not forcing the issue which I think was a smart vet thing to do , Like I said before when he got hurt he was playing a good game and had a pass TD. Yates gunslinged it little bit when he got in , taking a few more chances than he needed to , but I chalked that up to playing in his first game , He settled down as the game wore on .
Quote from: JustinP on November 29, 2011, 11:14:01 AM
Leinart wanted to play it safe and wanted to make himself look good to show that he was ready to be a starter, hence the reason he checked down with his passes.
it a smart thing to do , you got a great running game ... why force passes down the field when you don't have to .
problem is , now I think the Texans are in little more trouble now than they were before with Leinart out , I like Yates , don't get me wrong, but least Leinart had the pro starter experiences with him, Yates is now the man , not sure how he going to handle that . they are going to need to head out get a vet to back him up if he falters down the stretch,
hey were David Carr at the moment lol
When Garcia came back to help the Eagles like 4 years ago that was a miracle in itself, I highly doubt he has the magic to do it a second time around. That being said, I'd love to see him play again, that ginger fuck.
Carr is with the Giants. Just hand the ball off to Arian Foster and they should be okay. Their defense is stout this year and will keep them in every game.
Its a shame as I actually know a Texans fan through e-wrestling (Jonnah of ex TFWF fame) and I caught him on the weekend actually on MSN and he was damn pissed at what was happening. Shame really because they look a pretty good overall team. I liken them to what could end up going down in Chicago a team that should make the playoffs and do well and now there is a big question mark over them.
Luckily for Houston, their only real competition in their division is Tennessee. And even then, they have a two-game edge on em. All Houston has to do is to not go into a nosedive and they're in the playoffs. If the kid can hand off and pass every so often to take the pressure off, then they're cream cheese.
EBWOP
Look at the remaining schedules for both teams.
Houston plays Atlanta, at Cincy, Carolina, at Indy, Tennessee.
Tennessee plays at Buffalo, New Orleans, at Indy, Jacksonville and at Houston.
Those are similar schedules, with two tough teams (Atl and Cincy for Houston, and Buffalo and NO for Tennessee), two schmoes (Carolina & Indy for Houston, Indy & Jacksonville for Tennessee) and each other.
Tennessee isn't going to beat BOTH Buffalo and New Orleans, and will more than likely win just one. Same goes for Houston, they won't beat both Atlanta and Cincy. Assuming that Tennessee goes 3-1 in their last games before they go head to head, the Texans can go 2-2 in that stretch and still beat Tennessee to make it. If they can beat either Atlanta or Cincinnati AND take those two schmoe games against Carolina and Indy, they're in.
Read an article on NFL.com that the Texans are have their eye on Jake Delhomme....they couldn't do worse!
Delhomme officially signed, but the plan now is to have him be nothing more than a veteran presence as a solid back-up. T.J. Yates is getting the reigns. Unfort. it'll prob. only take one bad game with a few turnovers for him to LOSE those reigns, but they're his nonetheless
According to Madden (I know but Im just kidding)....
TJ Yates is a Pro Bowl QB in 2013 (Franchise mode, he was QB for the Jets and made the AFC title game)
So... Yeah, GO TJ!
I'm a UNC fan so I gotta pull for him!
Quote from: Talon on December 01, 2011, 05:38:27 PM
According to Madden (I know but Im just kidding)....
TJ Yates is a Pro Bowl QB in 2013 (Franchise mode, he was QB for the Jets and made the AFC title game)
So... Yeah, GO TJ!
I'm a UNC fan so I gotta pull for him!
Slightly off topic... but how'd you like that UK/UNC game today? Hee hee hee....
Only caught the last 8 minutes of it.
Heart breaker, but it was a great game. UK is a good squad, deserve the #1 spot right now after hanging on to the game.
Whilst a hardcore fan of my hometown university, I'm not one to go all apeshit when it doesn't work out in my favor.