Below is a (pretty much) complete list of all confirmed transfers made by every team in the English Premiership.
All I've missed out is the players returning to their home clubs after completing loan deals elsewhere last season.
I will be updating this post as I find out news until the Transfer Window slams shut on the final day of August, any updates will be posted in the thread, and the list will be edited to reflect any new deals added.
Any teams outwith the Premiership you want added to this list, contact me in thread or via PM, and I'll do what I can for you.
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Arsenal
Players In
Samir Nasri - Marseille
Aaron Ramsey - Cardiff
Players Out
Mathieu Flamini - Milan
Jens Lehmann - Stuttgart
Kerrea Gilbert - Leicester (loan)
Aston Villa
Players In
Steve Sidwell - Chelsea
Curtis Davies - West Brom
Players Out
Patrik Berger - Sparta Prague
Luke Moore - West Brom
Thomas Sorensen - Free Transfer
Blackburn
Players In
none
Players Out
Stephane Henchoz - Free Transfer
Bolton Wanderers
Players In
Johan Elmander - Toulouse
Fabrice Muamba - Birmingham
Players Out
Andranik Teymourian - Fulham
Daniel Braaten - Toulouse
Stelios Giannakopulos - Free Transfer
Ivan Campo - Free Transfer
Chelsea
Players In
Deco - Barcelona
Jose Boswinga - Porto
Players Out
Steve Sidwell - Aston Villa
Slobodan Rajkovic - FC Twente
Ryan Bertrand - Norwich(loan)
Ben Sahar - Portsmouth(loan)
Everton
Players In
none
Players Out
Lee Carsley - Birmingham
Stefan Wessels - Free Transfer
Fulham
Players In
Mark Schwarzer - Middlesbro'
David Stockdale - Darlington
Zoltan Gera - West Brom
Andranik Teymourian - Bolton
Toni Kallio - Young Boys Bern
Players Out
Brian McBride - Toronto FC
Simon Elliot - Free Transfer
Jari Litmanen - Free Transfer
Phillipe Cristanval - Free Transfer
Carlos Bocanegra - Free Transfer
Kasey Keller - Free Transfer
Hull City
[p]Players In[/b]
Bernard Mendy - PSG
Geovanni - Man City
Chris Fagan - Derby
Players Out
Henrik Pedersen - Free Transfer
Frank Belt - Free Transfer
Brewster Frizzell - Free Transfer
Liverpool
Players In
Philipp Degen - Borussia Dortmund
Andrea Dossena - Udinese
Diego Cavalleri - Palmeiras
Players Out
Danny Guthrie - Newcastle
Peter Crouch - Portsmouth
John Arne Riise - Roma
Harry Kewell - Galatasaray
Anthony Le Tallec - Le Mans
Besian Idrizal - Free Transfer
Paul Anderson - Nottingham Forest(loan)
Manchester City
Players In
Jo - CSKA Moscow
Players Out
Sun Jihai - Sheffield Utd
Andreas Isaksson - PSV
Geovanni - Hull City
Giorgios Samaras - Celtic
Emile MPenza - Free Transfer
Manchester Utd
Players In
none
Players Out
Tom Heaton - Cardiff City(loan)
Middlesbro'
Players In
Didier Digard - PSG
Marvin Emnes - Sparta Prague
Players Out
Fabio Rochemback - Sporting Lisbon
Steve Thompson - Port Vale
Mark Schwarzer - Fulham
Lee Dong-Gook - Free Transfer
Newcastle Utd
Players In
Danny Guthrie - Liverpool
Jonas Gutierrez - Mallorca
Players Out
Emre Berizoglu - Fenerbahce
Peter Ramage - QPR
Portsmouth
Players In
Glen Little - Reading
Peter Crouch - Liverpool
Ben Sahar - Chelsea(loan)
Players Out
none
Stoke City
Players In
none
Players Out
Marlon Broomes - Blackpool
Sunderland
Players In
none
Players Out
Andy Cole - Nottingham Forest
Stephen Wright - Free Transfer
Ian Harte - Free Transfer
Greg Halford - Sheffield Utd(loan)
Tottenham Hotspur
Players In
Luka Modric - Dinamo Zagreb
Giovani Dos Santos - Barcelona
Heurelho Gomes - PSV Eindhoven
John Bostock - Crystal Palace
Players Out
Joe Martin - Blackpool
West Bromwich Albion
Players In
Marek Cech - Porto
Graham Dorrans - Livingston
Gianni Zulverloon - Heerenveen
Luke Moore - Aston Villa
Players Out
Zoltan Gera - Fulham
Martin Albrechtson - Derby
Cutis Davies - Aston Villa
Kevin Phillips - Birmingham
Ronnie Wallwark - Free Transfer
West Ham United
Players In
none
Players Out
Zavon Hines - Chesterfield(loan)
Wigan Athletic
Players In
Daniel De Ridder - Birmingham
{b]Players Out[/b]
Julius Aghahowa - Kayerispor
Andreas Granqvist - Groningen
Peter Moore - Free Transfer
Salomon Olember - Free Transfer
Josip Skoko - Free Transfer
Last Updated: July 15th
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Alright guys, the thread is now yours. Excited by a signing, dismayed by one? Talk about it here.
Ach no Championship! Blech!
Add Hleb to the list for leaving Arsenal - 11.7 million to Barca.
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Deco to Chelsea?
FTW!!!!
NUFC out
David Rozehal to Lazio £2.9 million
Stephen Carr released
Fulham In
Bobby Zamora
Jonathan Pantsil both west ham combined fee 6.3 mil
To me this has been a shitty transfer window with more rumours and fuck all action to be honest. Plus it seems half the Premier league wants to play in Spain now...
Let' see Arsenal sign Andrei Arshavin or Bastian Schweinstiger and I'll be happy.
Thank god they got rid of Lehman and Hleb. They're both fucking awful.
Quote from: Ian Trumps on July 22, 2008, 10:49:59 AM
To me this has been a shitty transfer window with more rumours and fuck all action to be honest. Plus it seems half the Premier league wants to play in Spain now...
It just amazes me that so many players want to go to Spain. How many players have left the premiership and made names for themselves by playing in Spain? I mean look at Beckham, Henry and Michael Owen for example... they did nothing when the moved. The English Premiership is the greatest football league in the World and it pisses me off no end that Ronaldo wants to move to Real Madrid, he'll never have a season like 2007/08 again so I say out with the old in with the new. I'd rather have Messy at United anyway.
Also talk of Berbatov for United, Spurs can piss and moan all they want it's still going to happen.
Said this last season, but I will say it this season because I know it will happen.
Chelsea '08!
If Chelsea get Kaka I'll cry. This is why women shouldn't watch sports.
Chelsea= GREATNESS
Fulham Out:
Nathan Ashton - Wycombe
Dejan Stefanovic - Norwich
Eliot Omozusi - Norwich
Ricardo Batista - Sporting Lisbon
Tony Warner - Hull
Hopefully getting in Andy Johnson this week 10.5 mil
Liverpool in - Robbie Keane from Spurs - 19 million pounds.
That's the biggest move of the summer so far by a long way.
Andy Johnson going to Fulham should be confirmed in the next day or two as well.
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Paul Robinson is now with Blackburn.
fredrik stoor to fulham
Robbie Keane leaving spurs for liverpool
Edit: Just seen Duckman's post. I'm overly excited because he grew up close by me ;D
Benetiz is a tool 20 million for Keane...
Tops and I mean tops 11 million
what is it with crap spurs player being so overpriced - carrick and Keane combined for 36mill
Then you get quality ENGLAND playing Defoe going for 74p
Anybody else hear the Henry/Man Utd rumour?
Berba rumour obviously, but nothing on Henry...I have heard Ronadlo might well be handing in a transfer request as well.
BUMPED. Where's Kenny?
Cuellar to Villa from Rangers. Fucking shit, knocked out of Europe and we lost our best player.
Also got the following transfers for Rangers recently: Madjid Bougherra, defender (Charlton Athletic, £2.5m); Aaron NÃguez Esclapez, midfielder (Valencia, loan) - the young Spanish kid might be a good bit of business as he's the Spain Under 20's Captain.
That Berba move is looking like it's going to cost nearly 30 million, which is insane money, he's a great player, but not worth that much.
Kaboul from Spurs to Portsmouth is another recent move.
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Fred Stoor 4mil to fulham, AJ completed for 10.5 rising to 13 mill depending on apps and Pascal Zuberbuhler for a free all to fulham
A lot of transfers are waiting for other deals to be done. I see a lot of rushed deals going through all at once.
It seems to have been a slow summer really transfer wise, but saying that there has been a LOT of moves, maybe its the lack of real massive deals as they all fell through bar Robbie Keane.
I count about 4 transfers in the 10 mil region goin on in the last month so its not that quiet. The ronaldo bollocks helped everything else seem Shit and tourney years are always slow for europe
The prices are high but activity lower than usual. Its only really started to kick into life later on.
Tourny years tend to be slow agreed but also a high influx of "they did well in the tourny so they must be good" players seem to arrive.
Compared to most years the bigger clubs have been very quiet. Only really Spurs springs to mind who have been very active and Fulham.
Pedro Mendes from Portsmouth to Rangers for £3 million, just confirmed this afternoon.
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colliccini to tha tooooooooon 10million
Sheva to Milan pending Medical
From here in Canada
Carlos Ruiz has been traded to Toronto FC for a 09 1st and 3rd Round Pick
Maruice Edu (Toronto FC) has been sold to Rangers for $5 million.
From what I have heard Edu is fairly useful. Nice to see Scotland exploiting MLS more and more.
We'll take anything we can get at the moment.
But he does look pretty handy. Add him to Steven Davis, Pedro Mendes and Aaron from Valencia and it looks like the Gers are finally getting some flair in midfield.
Of course it's a bit late cause we're out of Europe already, but it bodes well for next season!
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Wright-Phillips from Chelsea to Manchester City.
Pavulechenko from Spartak Moscow to Tottenham.
Milner from Newcastle to Aston Villa.
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I'd like to see how Pavulechenko does *Goes and puts him on fantasy team*
Spurs are playing Chelsea this weekend so id hold off with Pavulechenko for this week
Quote from: Ally on August 29, 2008, 12:44:30 PM
Spurs are playing Chelsea this weekend so id hold off with Pavulechenko for this week
Lol, he aint even updated on the site. But Ill moderate him. He should be very cheap, so I could sit him on my bench and moderate how well he clicks with Bent, if he even starts.
He'll start, Spurs NEEDED a striker, Spurs isnt the right club for Bent at all.
People from the former Soviet states tend to take a while to settle into England and a lot of the "amazing" players come over here and do terrible.
Schevchenko, Rebrov, Poborsky. To name a few...
Id really really really not have him in my fantasy team, you want someone like Defoe who once Pompey play someone who isnt United or Chelsea, will bang them in for fun.
well, Im waiting for my free transfer, to work Deco into my team, because he's on fire right now. Plus, Pavel would be good on my bench, as he shouldn't (Budweiser Fantasy Premier League) be over 5.0.
Good luck is all i will say...:)
Get him for 5, watch his price drop OR hold off, get him when it HAS dropped and hes settled in and may start scoring.
Louis Saha to Everton
James Milner to Aston Villa
September 1 - Roman Pavlyuchenko (Spartak Moscow to Tottenham, £14million)
September 1 - Vedran Corluka (Manchester City to Tottenham, £8.5million)
September 1 - Kamil Zayatte (Young Boys to Hull, loan)
September 1 - Nadir Belhadj (Lens to Portsmouth, loan)
September 1 - Vitor Flora (Botafogo to Liverpool, free)
September 1 - Ignacio Gonzalez (Valencia to Newcastle, loan)
September 1 - Blerim Dzemaili (Bolton to Torino, loan)
September 1 - Rachid Bouaouzan (Wigan to NEC Nijmegen, loan)
September 1 - Peter Gulacsi (MTK Hungaria to Liverpool, undisclosed)
September 1 - Steve Finnan (Liverpool to Espanyol, undisclosed)
September 1 - Andriy Voronin (Liverpool to Hertha Berlin, loan)
September 1 - Collins John (Fulham to NEC Nijmegen, free)
September 1 - Mark Bunn (Northampton to Blackburn, undisclosed)
September 1 - Albert Reira (Espanyol to Liverpool, undisclosed)
Berbatov looks to be going to Manchester CITY. Levy says no permission granted for United to speak with the player.
Yeah john gone. Nobody wanted him.
Saha could do good. With the service Arteta has been giving Yakubu, Everton might have a good chance at cracking a champs. league spot.
Xisco to Newcastle
Robinho to City and of course the most important one....
BERBATOV TO UNITED!!!!!!![/b]
As for the rest does it really matter? lol
At least Chelsea didn't get Robinhio.
Sad Arshavin didnt go in this window, but eh.
I've heard City are bidding £125m for Christiano Ronaldo.
They also want Torres and Fabregas.
Are you joking? You must be.....if not. I dont want to see the next transfer window and what they do.
That's the plan straight from the mouth of the new owner of the club. He's nuts of course, it'll never happen, but still makes for some fun for us!
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Notice he doesn't want to buy any English players? Fair play to City though, glad Chelsea didn't sign Robinho.
Why can't the 'Pool get some decent owners instead of what we're stuck with though?
Everton signs Fellani from Standard Leige (Belgium) for 27.5 million.
Kinda surprised about the fee, but this dudes a fucking tank. Cant wait to see what he does.
It was 15 million pounds for him Cory. Think that might be the dollar value you've got there.
Still, he's a really interesting signing, young, powerful, good with the ball. Just the kind of midfield player they've needed.
I don't see Everton doing much this year though, just haven't added enough quality. And if Yakubu gets injured, I don't see where the goals are coming from.
So what's everyone's views on the transfers this summer then? Sum up your thoughts in a couple of sentences.
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Back onto City for a second...
Its a shame that this has effectively killed their amazing youth they've got coming through.
Alex Tallah Nimey or something like that, Daniel Sturridge, Ched Evans and to a lesser extent Michael Johnson...i hope some prem clubs get a brain and snap some of these guys up.
Also, its a kick in the bollocks for Oldham, who if Micah Richards went for big money would have got 25%, not much chance of him going now.
Surprised one of these has yet to be made. Here are the transfers to date. Post the new ones, as we can discuss who our favourite team or Man City just bought/ rid of.
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-- Cristiano Ronaldo
From: Manchester United
To: Real Madrid
Price: â,¬93m
-- Yoann Gourcuff
From: AC Milan
To: Bordeaux
Price: â,¬15m
-- Carlos Tevez
From: Manchester United
To: Manchester City
Price: â,¬30m
-- Kaka
From: AC Milan
To: Real Madrid
Price: â,¬67.2m
-- Gareth Barry
From: Aston Villa
To: Manchester City
Price: â,¬14m
-- Karim Benzema
From: Lyon
To: Real Madrid
Price: â,¬35m (plus â,¬6m clauses)
-- Diego
From: Werder Bremen
To: Juventus
Price: â,¬24.5m
-- Lucho Gonzalez
From: Porto
To: Marseille
Price: â,¬18m+
-- Yuri Zhirkov
From: CSKA Moscow
To: Chelsea
Price: â,¬20.8m
-- Anatoliy Tymoschuk
From: Zenit St. Petersburg
To: Bayern Munich
Price: â,¬11m
-- Glen Johnson
From: Portsmouth
To: Liverpool
Price: â,¬20.5m
-- Lisandro Lopez
From: Porto
To: Lyon
Price: â,¬24-28m
-- Antonio Valencia
From: Wigan Atheltic
To: Manchester United
Price: â,¬18.9m
Aside from Kaka & Ronaldo we have had:
The trades of Michael Own and Fabio Cannavarro. Valencia is a good pick-up for Man U. Lisandro Lopez is one of the quality strikers in Europe, was hoping he would come to the Prem. Glen Johnson got paid waaaaaay to much. Deigo is an amazing player, good pick for Bayern. I'm still unsure how Real is paying for these players, adding Benzema I mean, have they ever heard of debt?
The Barca/Inter swap between Eto'd & $$$$ for Ibrahamovic is close to being finalized, as reported by goal.com
Good move for Barcelona, as much as I hate to see Eto'd leave.
i want this shit done in sterling...
Quote from: M.D.Kinky on July 17, 2009, 01:01:43 AM
i want this shit done in sterling...
Racist.
Good thread Cory, i've got a similar one going at TFWF.
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Quote from: M.D.Kinky on July 17, 2009, 01:01:43 AM
i want this shit done in sterling...
LMAO that was my first thought as well. Good thread though Cor
-- Adriano is in talks with a return to Serie A to AC Milan. Good moves, Adriano is probably one of my all-time favourite players.
-- Stewart Downing has got picked up by Aston Villa
-- Peter Crouch is on the trading block from Portsmouth, rumoured 'battle' between Fulham & Spurs
Crouch has already had talks at Sunderland and its not the trading block mate lol.
Players that are included as part of a deal are called player exchanges, in the case of Crouch it will be somewhere round 10 million for his signature.
fulham and sunderland are more likely locations.
Fulham have apparently still not ripped off hull for Zamora yet who want to pay £5mill for a striker who scored 2 last season therby putting up his value by 800k!
We've also bought Steven Kelly who is pretty handy and are on the verge of signing Diddycoy or something from South Africa who was one of their stars during the confederations cup
-- Barry Ferguson has joined Birmingham City from Rangers. (Haha Sam)
According to (http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/17/1387536/portsmouth-give-fulham-tottenham-hotspur-peter-crouch (http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/17/1387536/portsmouth-give-fulham-tottenham-hotspur-peter-crouch))
The Black Cats have offered 12mill for Crouch. A little over priced if you ask me, but he does seem to find the back of the net consistently.
-- Under21 Standout Markus Berg (Sweden) has now signed with Hamberg SV (Germany)
http://goal.com/en-us/news/86/italy/2009/07/17/1387313/spanish-press-barca-sign-ibra-from-inter-for-40m-plus-etoo (http://goal.com/en-us/news/86/italy/2009/07/17/1387313/spanish-press-barca-sign-ibra-from-inter-for-40m-plus-etoo)
If this is in fact true, the Ibrahamovic / Eto'd + 40million deal has gone through.
It was on Sky Sports News last night so I think its true.
Emmanuel Adebayor from Arsenal to Manchester City for £25 million.
Sam what do you think of Ferguson leaving Rangers?
Quote from: Duckman on July 18, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Emmanuel Adebayor from Arsenal to Manchester City for £25 million.
Enjoy all those first team chances your going to get with Robinho, Roque and Adebayor in the side Carlos.
Muppet lol.
I don't think i'd shiv a git for those paychecks.
Quote from: Sir Ian Trumps on July 18, 2009, 06:00:55 PM
Quote from: Duckman on July 18, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Emmanuel Adebayor from Arsenal to Manchester City for £25 million.
Enjoy all those first team chances your going to get with Robinho, Roque and Adebayor in the side Carlos.
Muppet lol.
Well Im pretty sure Robinho & Tevez will player Wingers, with Cruz & Adebeyor up top....I'd do that.
Or do:
RW- Robinho
ST- Adebeyor
LW- Tevez
LM- Wright-Phillips
CM- Barry
RM- Elano/Petrov
LB- Zabaleta
CB- Dunne
CB- Richards
RB- Kompany
Still pretty idiot.....they should release some players without a doubt.
Quote from: Cory on July 19, 2009, 12:32:49 AM
Or do:
RW- Robinho
ST- Adebeyor
LW- Tevez
LM- Wright-Phillips
CM- Barry
RM- Elano/Petrov
LB- Zabaleta
CB- Dunne
CB- Richards
RB- Kompany
Still pretty idiot.....they should release some players without a doubt.
That still misses out Ireland by far their best player last season and also a returning Michael Johnson as well. Plus there is also Bellamy kicking about on top of Wayne Bridge, Bojinov and De Jong.
And for the record that formation wouldn't last five minutes in the Premiership. If your playing three up front you need three dedicated midfield players. Elano, SWP and Petrov are all players who would actually suit the positions you gave Robinho and Tevez more than anything else. If City do go for a variation of your formation I picture it like this.
Ireland, Barry and De Jong/Johnson across the middle
Adebayor in the CF role with Tevez and Robinho playing off him as wingers right and left respectively. The problem I see is Petrov is actually better tat the position that Robinho and SWP would be better than Tevez if he didnt keep going to clubs with more money than sense.
Quote from: Cory on July 18, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
Sam what do you think of Ferguson leaving Rangers?
To be honest I was quite glad. He's been a hell of a player for us for years but his body has been breaking down for the past 2/3 years. Plus he's a heavy drinker and I don't think a professional footballer should live the kind of life he leads - I think that has caused his body to fail in recent years.
He also had all that bullshit when playing for Scotland earlier in the year where he was drinking all night and making obscene gestures to TV cameras when he got benched for his behaviour.
Barry was a great player, but in recent years he's gone right down hill and is no longer the talisman of our team.
We got a million pounds for him, plus his 25K a week wages off our bill so I think it's a good deal all round.
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Most of the Glen Johnson fee was a write off for the money Portsmouth still owed for Crouch. He cost Portsmouth 11 million, they're looking to make a 1million profit on him if he's sold to Sunderland. I like Crouch, he's a a tad underrated I think. Though we have to remember that being English automatically adds a couple of million onto a players value somehow.
Clearly Man City are going to be playing 0-0-10 next season! Though seriously, I can see Bellamy and Benjani going at least. Hull want the latter and Craig Bellamy generally moves on after a season anyway! I somehow don't think that Mark Hughes is in charge of these transfers at all by the way.
Have to say I'm delighted at the Adebayor price.
The Eto/Ibrahimovic deal is insane.
£35 million plus Eto on a permanent contract and Hleb on a seasons loan.
Ibrahimovic has done fuck all in the Champion League. How the hell he is supposed to be worth £35 million PLUS Eto is beyond me!
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Well as Barca being my fav. team outside of the Prem, Still unsure. Ibra will MURDER in the Spanish League. If Ruud @ 32 can net like 20, Ibra should get more than that.
Sad to see Eto'd go, but Hleb is awful, and the money is probably Barca trying to 'beef' up a bit more with all of the tranfers Real is getting in.
Zlatan was a beast in Serie A with a midfield behind him that wasn't half of what Barca have. He'll be a killer.
Jimmy hit the nail on the head.
The main reason Ibrahimovic hasn't done shit in the CL is because Inter, in the time he's been there, really haven't had the quality to help him. Guys like Vieira, Figo, Zanetti were past their best, while the likes of Cambiasso, Adriano, Mancini last year... they're good, but not good enough to really be a true threat at that level.
With a team like Barca, and the fact that he's stopped being a complete prima donna bitch in the last year or two... I expect him to be awesome in La Liga and the CL for them.
Where are all the Championship transfers? That's where the REAL footy fans are. ;)
Bjorn Helge Riise [Lillestrom - Fulham] Undisclosed - John's brother. Another ginger in the Premiership!
Kyle Naughton [Sheffield United - Tottenham] Undisclosed - supposed to be a really good prospect for the future.
Kyle Walker [Sheffield United - Tottenham] Undisclosed - supposed to be going back to Sheff Utd on a season long loan.
Felipe Caicedo [Man City - Sporting Lisbon] Loan - City clearing some space on the bench!
The Eto deal is also nearly done with Ibramhimovic going to Barca and £40 odd million going to Inter! Crazy deal.
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happy at riise - hopefully solid like his bro and the fee is though to be about 3mill
crouch rejected sunderland move and its a straight up battle between Fulham and the yids
Yids have Harry who crouch likes
Fulham have Europe which will appeal to crouch who will want european exposure to appeak to capello
Black Cats just got Lyon Captain Erick Cana for 7.5 million. VERY good pickup, excellent playmaker.
Toure is off to Man City for 26 Million from Arsenal. Wow, good move from Arsenal. Toure is worth maybe 15 million.
Got to be allowed to spend it first though mate lol
True......It's scary to check the rumors for Arsenal going after a defender. The only thing coming up is that they're probably unloading Gallas to Inter or AC.
Oba Martins is gone from Newscastle to Wolfsberg in Germany for just under 10 million
It's funny how removed from reality your rumours are, Cory. No one whatsoever is talking about Gallas leaving Arsenal because there's no way it'll happen. Toure cost £16m, not £26m, but then again he's worth £9m at best. And "Erick Cana" is in fact Lorik Cana, and he's not remotely a playmaker, all he can do is kick people.
Im going based off Goal.com, which is about 70% right, and worth posting to dicuss.
Gallas linked to Milan (http://www.goal.com/en/news/1708/ac-milan/2008/12/06/998296/gallas-agger-kjaer-linked-to-milan)
The 26 million is in dollars.....I live in North America, and we deal with dollars, and his fee was 26 million dollars.
The Cana was a mis spelling, and he's a playmaker. He doesn't score, but then again not many holding midfielders do, but he does play like Roy Keane and I've seen him with a few set-ups in Ligue 1, and he moves the ball well in a games that I've seen him in.
Xabi Alonso [Liverpool - Real Madrid] £30 million rising to £35 million.
Fabian Delph [Leeds - Aston Villa] - undisclosed (believed to be worth £8 million)
Couple of moves by Hull
Seyi Olofinjana [Stoke - Hull] £3m
Jozy Altidore [Villareal - Hull] Loan with permanent option
They've struggled in their attempt to pick up players so far this Summer, the Stoke guy is kinda meh, but Altidore is an interesting one, he's got a lot of potential so it'll be interesting to see how he adapts to life in the Prem.
And another new deal to see in the morning
Sebastien Bassong [Newcastle - Spurs] Undisclosed (believed to be £8m)
Saw that coming a mile off, but that deal was done after a medical yesterday.
Also, surprised no-one mentioned this, especially after the Twitter saga around it
Darren Bent [Spurs - Sunderland] £10.5m, potentially rising to £16.5m
That breaks Sunderland's club record transfer... and all I can say to it is, "Darren Bent, REALLY?"
Antti Niemi (unattached-Portsmouth) Free. Anyone else think that Pompey are starting to lose faith in James?
One that I was upset about because i had hope he would come to the premier league, obviously Redknapp/Spurs wouldn't meet his wage demands
Klaas Jan-Huntelaar (Madrid to Milan, Undisclosed)
I think the Niemi move might be because James is going to jump ship before the season starts. He seems like the kind of guy who needs his zen,chi and aura to all be in the right place or else he forgets how to be a keeper and starts spazzing things up!
Portsmouth hasn't been the most secure of places and with the new owner coming in there's talk of James wanting to go somewhere new. There's plenty of Premiership teams that would take him on a 2 year deal.
I'd like to have seen Huntelaar in the Premiership too just to see if he really is the new Ruud or just a load of hype and no end product.
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The Huntelaar stuff annoys me. Half the people who watch the game say he's one of the best strikers in the world...
The other half are like me, they realize that he scored all his goals in Dutch football (anyone actually WATCH that stuff? It's garbage), and that he's still unproven. The only reason Real bought him for so much money in the first place is because the name "Ajax" still opens doors in this day and age, even though they've barely been relevant in their own country in the last few years.
the niemi thing is good for him. He was decent enough for fulham until schwarzer came along and he thought he was past it. Glad to see that he still has the balls for competition.
Glad to see Altidore in the Premier League.....I was ecstatic when he went to Spain, as I had the opportunity to play against him while he was representing the elites from Florida at the Segull Tournament in Maine, he was an incredible player, I scored one he scored four......so yeah.
Hopefully he'll do enough to get the starting job come middle of the season, he's a fast strong player, resembles Yakubu.
He will do alright, but if Hull are signing you on loan...your not going to set the world alight. I predict at best a squad rotation player.
Yeah, but I'm going to hope he can be this years Zaki....well at least for the first half of the season.
He won't be.
I agree with Ian, in that there's no way he's going to score the amount of goals Zaki piled in with early in the season.
I do rate Altidore, highly, as a player with a future, but he may just be too young for it right now, he's certainly capable enough, as anyone who watched him in the Confederations Cup will know, he was a major factor in USA ending Spain's 35 match unbeaten streak in that competition, and scored in the process...
But's that's just one game, not a season, and he's young and unproven. It'll take him time to settle.
The one thing he DOES have in his favour in the Prem is that he's a very strong, physical player, and he's going to give opposition defenders something to think about for that reason.
And then again, the point of him being a Zaki is that nobody thought Zaki would do what he did last year, until it all went wrong at Wigan, so who's to say? There's always someone that surprises...
Lee Cattermole just went from Wigan to Sunderland for an initial £6 million - WTF!! He's like Joey Barton without the slight amount of skill Barton has!
Got to be the most inflated transfer fee of the summer and I'm including that stupid £15 million for Toure who is worth £7-£9 million at a push.
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Wow.
Cattermole looked pretty good in the u21's tho.
I think that's the point with the Cattermole deal. They're paying for potential, he's still a youngster, and he plays a role that is generally played far better by players with more experience.
It's still FAR too much for him though, I don't actually think he has that much potential to begin with. However, the fact that there was talk about Liverpool going after him until the Aquilani deal happened probably inflated that price quite a bit.
His agent obviously did some top class work!
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fulham are going for a little nigerian... dunno his name
Bruce has clearly seen something in Cattermole. He's been proven to be a good judge of player int he past (or had people around him who are). So who knows.
You also have to factor into the transfer fee that he's English. That seems to inflate prices loads these days.
Nikola Kalinic [Hajduk Split - Blackburn] - £6m
Kamel Ghilas [Celta Vigo - Hull] - Undisclosed
Stephen Hunt [Reading - Hull] - Undisclosed
Hunt's a good pickup....he was on of the few good players on Reading a few seasons back.
Crystal Palace
In: Freddie Sears (loan, West Ham), Darren Ambrose (free, Charlton), Stern John (free, Unattatched)
Out: Scott Flinders (free, Hartlepool), Carl Fletcher (free, Plymouth Argyle), Paul Ifill (free, Wellington Pheonix), James Scowcroft (free, Leyton Orient), Rhoys Wiggins (undisclosed, Norwich City), John Oster (free, Doncaster Rovers)
Wtfffffff stupid wankers! I HATE SIMON JORDAN AND NEIL WARNOCK! I need to support a team that doesn't commit suicide at the beginning of every season. Freddie Sears and Stern John, one unproven striker and one proven SHIT striker to replace James Scowcroft. I've still yet to see Freedman and Morrison properly replaced. Flinders.... good goalkeeper, gone. Carl Fletcher, former captain, gone. Paul Ifill, solid MC, gone. And how much for those 3/4 good players? NOTHING. GRR!!!!
Lescott from Everton to Man City for around £24 million has been announced by Sky Sports tonight. The deal will be confirmed tomorrow.
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Quote from: Duckman on August 23, 2009, 04:17:47 PM
Lescott from Everton to Man City for around £24 million has been announced by Sky Sports tonight. The deal will be confirmed tomorrow.
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Lescott is good...but I hate the money in football. >:(
Really? I though that deal was dead.
...now I might have to look into Man City defenders for Fantasy.
QuoteEverton have confirmed the signing of Russian winger Diniyar Bilyaletdinov from Lokomotiv Moscow for an undisclosed fee, said to be in the region of £9million.
QuoteFormer England international Sol Campbell has joined Notts County on a five-year contract as a free agent.
Lescott signing for City is a sad day for football. Once more proving how much more power the player has over the club they play for.
plus the fact he is far from a 24 million pound player.
Villa have made bids for both Sylvain Distan (Portsmouth) and Steven Warnock (Blackburn). it woudl strenghten there non existent defense, but i feel we missed out on better players
Man City have signed Lescott (Everton) and Sylvinho (Barca)
Pascal Chimbonda looks to be heading to Blackburn from spurs
And for the european fans.
Julio Baptista (once of Madrid) looks to be moving from Roma to Inter.
Kranjcar from Portsmouth to Spurs
Heitinga from Ath. Madrid to Everton
Klasnic on Loan from Nantes to Bolton
I sat in front of sky sports news for hours yesterday and those mentioned above were the key moments. This transfer window has been a bit shit. Oh well, at least Spurs have done pretty well out of it. Bassong is great cover for King/Woodgate and Kranjcar will fill in for Modric quite well. It would have been nice to get someone to slot in next to Palacios in the centre of midfield but apart from that we've done pretty for ourselves. The other big news this window (apart from Real's ridiculous spending spree) I guess is Man City. Personally, I think they've bought a lot of overrated players and I don't see them breaking into the top 4 with that squad. I may be proved wrong but it looks like the biggest impact they've made on the big 4 is to remove 2 disruptive influences from the Arse. Having said that though, Liverpool do look very weak beyond Torres and Gerard so it might be a case of them sliding out of the top 4 rather than someone forcing their way in.
No faith in Huddlestone? I personally think hes better than Palacios in the middle.
Upset that Arsenal didn't make a move for Van Der Vaart.
Fabio Grosso from Lyon to Juve.
Huddlestone is too slow. He might be able to pick out a great pass but he takes too long over it. By the time he's decided what to do with the ball the opposition have already tackled him and are breaking the other way. That and he has no straight line speed. I used to think that John O'Shae was the slowest man on earth but Tom Huddlestone makes the tectonic plates look like Usain Bolt. Huddlestone has potential, but he's had that for over 3 years now. It's about time he started to actually develop.
He does weight 210lbs....has about 30 pounds on most...20 on most 'big players' so that could be a reason.
Yes, but he doesn't use his size like he should be able to. His tackling is dire. Huddlestone's strong point is his passing but he doesn't have the reaction speed for the Premier League. His best performances all come from his games in Europe when he's given more time on the ball. I'm sure he'd have a great career in Spain or Italy but in the Prem players tend to get closed down a lot faster and the games are much more physical. Huddlestone needs to use his size more and he needs to read the game/make decisions faster. If he can address those 2 aspects of his game then his lack of pace wouldn't be an issue. My problem with him is that he's taking too long to develop into the player he should be and I'm worried he'll never make it. I said similar of Lennon a few years back though so hopefully I'm wrong in this case as well.
Dazz has hit the nail on the head as far as Huddlestone goes.
Was happy villa signed soem defenders
Warnock (B'burn)
Dunne (Man City)
Collins (W'Ham)
Not the names I would have gone for, but i have faith in O'neill. SO hopefully cow Carlos Cuellar can sit on the bench and watch a good side play football, because I F*cking hate him.
Patrick Viera to Man City from Inter for 6 months.......around 100k a week.
Sol Campbell to Arsenal on free transfer from Notts
Maxi Rodriguez from Athletic Madrid to Liverpool for 3 yr deal.
My God these are some of the gayest transfers ever...
I dont think given the openess of the league this year many teams are going to fuck with the formula unless ifs for cover or in the case of Liverpool they are drastically under achieving.
I unno........It'll be nice seeing Viera back in the Prem.....rumours say he might even get the C for Man City.......but true. So far, a shitty window and yeah, not a whole lot of teams want to change right now.
All I know....Arsenal needs a hitman up front, and Liverpool well.......they need to somehow salvage this season.
Quote from: Cory on January 13, 2010, 10:31:44 PM
I unno........It'll be nice seeing Viera back in the Prem.....rumours say he might even get the C for Man City.......but true. So far, a shitty window and yeah, not a whole lot of teams want to change right now.
All I know....Arsenal needs a hitman up front, and Liverpool well.......they need to somehow salvage this season.
Saha is linked with Arsenal and Ruud with the Pool
Meh.....I wouldn't be happy with Saha.
For one....hes not of Arsenals....'age range' of 17-28, and hes more injury prone then our only striker that can finish (Van Persie). Even tho he is in good form this season, I wouldn't sink money in him.
I know Dzeko is a pipe dream, but he would be the answer.
The Jan market prices are so over inflated and retarded. Plus a lot of deals are probably done now and then go through in the summer - I think that's why Chelsea keep saying they aren't buying anyone, probably already got deals lined up for summer transfers.
If Vieria still has the legs to handle the Premier League it's a good move but if it's just to get him game time to get into the France World Cup squad then it's a waste of time.
I don't really see many big moves being made - although Stoke are linked with a lot of big players, David James being the one that looks the most likely.
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Liverpool are going to need to do something.
It's just come out that Torres is out for 6 weeks (again), and Benayoun, who has probably been one of their standouts this year, is out for about a month.
Given that they have the Merseyside Derby, and games against Arsenal and Man City coming up that Torres will DEFINITELY miss, not to mention the potential for the Spurs game to be set in that timeframe, they'll need to either strengthen or find some way to rebuild their form, fast.
If things go badly through those games it'll be the end of Pool's season.
I heard rumours of Thomas Sorenson leaving Stoke for Bayern Munich, with David James coming in.
Stoke are certainly hot on James' trail.
First I've heard of Sorensen leaving though. Makes more sense now, I see no reason for Stoke to sign another keeper unless Sorensen is on the move.
Stoke City have today confirmeed that they have withdrawn from the deal that was set to bring England goalkeeper David James to the Potteries from Portsmouth.
Potters chief executive Tony Scholes has informed Sky Sports News that the midday deadline to sign the keeper in time for the weekend game with Liverpool has passed.
The deal has also reportedly stalled over the player's wages.
City boss Tony Pulis had wanted to bring the 39-year-old to the Britannia on loan until the end of the season, with the Potters splitting the burden of his wages with Portsmouth.
That means that the deal is now dead, which should please Pompey manager Avram Grant.
Grant is believed to be very keen to hang onto James as his club battle through on and off-field controversy.
-Goal.com
Zaki to Hull CIty on Season Long Loan
Not a lot of big name transfers done so far, but sometimes it picks up for the last week.
I agree with what has previously been said about Arsenal needing a striker, especially someone big. Coz at the moment we have the small quick players in Eduardo and Vela. But in tough games we could do with some to hold the ball up. But you never know with Wenger and IN WENGER WE TRUST!!!
Is Wegner jewish by any chance?
This whole.....I was an elite striker.....but I only wanna play half price, sounds kinda 'Goldstein' to me.
Dont know about Wegner but I am sure Wenger isnt jewish lol
I understand what he means, especially if you look at what is happening at Pompey or Spammers. They spent lots of money on players and it ran them into financial problems. So he is going to spend loads on one player but we need a striker. But it might be alright if Bendther is back soon and we can keep them fit.
Meh, He's a super sub, but everytime he starts he gets 4-5 chances a game and cant finish. I dont know about making him a starter.....yet.
Well there is nothing to say that he has to starter, but at least it would give Wenger some other options. If you need someone to hold the ball then you could play Bendther, but if you want some one smaller that will get in behind the defence, then Eduardo or Vela can be that option. It is options that Wenger needs so he can look at what it will take to win matches.
Meh, Eduado isnt the same, and much like Bednter I dont think Vela (at least yet) can help them up front. These guys will be great when they hit their mid tewnties, but they need 1 power player.
Barcelona is the cloest team to represent Arsenal style wise, and they have similar styles.
A comparrison.
Barca's D to Arsenals D.
-Puyol is very similar style wise to Gallas & Vermalen
-Danny Alves has a very similar style to Clichy, and shades of Sagna going up and down the field.
Barca's M to Arsenals M
-Yaya Toure is similar to Song. Powerful holding midfielders, could even count Diaby now.
-Xavi/Inesta is almost exactly to Barca what Fabregas is to Arsenal. Gritty players, with excellent ball control and vision, with the ability to score goals.
-No one can replicate Messi, but this is the one area that no team can.
Barca's Striking:
This is where one of the biggest differences to why Baraca wins against BIG teams and Arsenal doesn't. Arsenal has forwards that replicate the rest of their style. Arshavin, Eduardo, and somewhat of Van Persies play is to keep control, pass the other team to death and hope to score, but it almost NEVER works against the Chelseas, Man U's, Barca's and Madrids.
Barca has Henry who is straight striking and speed, and Ibra who is powerful and a hitman. They allow their midfield and defensive play to out pass the other teams to death, and feed it to their strikers who do nothing but look towards goal. Arsenal, they always look to pass first and shoot later, which is what their achilles heel is.
Arsenal need a power striker to have up front, perhaps to align with Arshavin, and when Van Persie returns, to move Arshavin to the wing, and give the finesse of Van Persie a 'hitman' partner. Edin Dzeko from Wolfsberg, is a hitman. Not a lot of pussy footting around, he just wants to score goals. Keita on Galatasary, or Dembele on AZ Alkmarr in Holland, these guys are hitman, and if Arsenal wants to win the tougher games, they need this, but regretfully, these players cost money, something Wegner refuses to spend.
Also, Jo has left Everton for Galatasary in Turkey.
If I was Wegner, with a fair bit of change to spend, here is my team for the next season.
GK- Akinfeev (In from CSKA, $12 million, -------> $8million from selling Almunia)
LB- Sagna
CB- Vermelan
CB- Gallas
RB- Clichy
CDM- Song
RW- Arshavin
CM- Fabregas (DONT LET HIM LEAVE!)
LW- Nasri (hate him, but he'll grow into the Prem like Fabregas)
CAM- Julio Baptista ($15million from Roma)
ST- Eden Dzeko ($30million from Wolfsberg...have to get him before Milan do, I'd sell Eduardo for $12 million to cut down on costs)..if not, get Adriano on Free Trade from Brazil, even pay up to $5 million for him. He's legit, and I'd give him another chance, knowing when in form hes one of the top strikers in the world.
With this formation, you have room to rotate Van Persie in at ST and CAM, with the room to give Walcott and WIlshere playing time on either Wings.
Bit of transfer news I got from checking goal.com
Craig Gardner will complete a switch from Villa to Birmingham for £3m, pending a medical today
Rumour has it that Robinho will be heading back home to Brazil, with Santos lining up a loan move for him
Any hope Spurs had of bringing Ruud back to England has been scuppered by finances. Ruud just underwent a medical at Hamburg
Everton has loaned Senderos for the rest of the season...not sure if thats actually even NEWS!
Arsenal are alledgely making a bid for Chris Smalling of Fulham... 7 BLOODY MILLION?
Sorry but are they seeing something I'm not because he's good but he's no Aaron Hughes / Brede Hangeland
Yeah cause Aaron Hughes is even worth that much. You know Arsenal's thing now is youths practically dominating the first team, right?
No Palace transfers to talk of, just loads of rumours about Moses and Hills leaving, as usual with every window..
Quote from: Kenfucius on January 23, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
Craig Gardner will complete a switch from Villa to Birmingham for £3m, pending a medical today
That is a real Blow to Gardner. He has come through the Villa Youth set up, His younger brother is in the youth team (14 I think), But Gardner Is Villa through and through, He had a season ticket before he got into the youth set up. Obviously he wants to play regular football, But Birmingham?! That was like Sol going from Spurs to Arsenal.
I know this isn't Premier League but Nobby Solano to Leicester City (Free) That will strengthen their side no end and give them a massive push for promotion.
Mike Williamson [Portsmouth - Newcastle] Undisclosed
Chris Smalling [ Fulham - Man Utd] Undisclosed (Smalling to move for start of 2010-11 season) - rumoured to be £11 million.
Stephen McManus [Celtic - Middlesbrough] Loan
Danny Fox [Celtic - Burnley] Undisclosed
Yildiray Basturk [Stuttgart - Blackburn] Loan
Pedro Mendes [Rangers - Sporting Lisbon]
Victor Moses to Wigan for £2.5 million
Crystal Palace are also asking for Tottenham to pay more of the John Bostock transfer fee so we can make it to the end of the season
Gio Dos Santos left Spurs for Galatasary, not sure if this was a loan deal or not.
Wilshire from Arsenal to Bolton on a loan
I'm pretty sure it was a loan.
I am pretty sure Spurs picked up Eidur Gudjonsen as well.
LOL oh.
Shorey to Fulham on loan
Paul Robinson of WBA has gone to Bolton
Burnley have picked up Leon Court for 1.5 million and got Nugent on loan again
Okaka has gone to Fulham so they let Kamara go to Celtic
Zaki to Hull
Moses 2.5 to the Latics from Palace
Also it seems McCarthy has gone from Rovers to the Hammers.
Adam Johnson from Middlesbrough to Man City - £7 million.
Also Robbie Keane on loan to Celtic is currently being discussed.
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Asmir Begovic - Portsmouth to Stoke - £3.25 million
Scott McDonald - Celtic to Portsmouth - loan
Mido to West Ham - loan
McDonald Mariga - Inter Milan to Parma (was supposed to go to Man City but the deal fell through due to a work permit issue.)
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Keane to Celtic is finalised, end of season loan deal.
Diomansy Kamara has also gone from Fulham to Celtic on loan until the end of the season also, if it hasn't been mentioned already.
Yay for Scotland keeping the deadline open all the way to midnight.
....still no striker/keeper for Arsenal........
That loan of Robbie Keane is the best bit of business of the window - he'll score fuck loads up here.
Very interested to see how Victor Moses does in the premier league.
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Alan Hutton on loan to Sunderland from Spurs
Quote from: X-Quack on February 01, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
That loan of Robbie Keane is the best bit of business of the window - he'll score fuck loads up here.
Very interested to see how Victor Moses does in the premier league.
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I imagine totally shite
oh and some german to Fulham from Liverpool on loan
Benjani to Sunderland on a loan deal.
Now seems as good a time as any! Let's the cash fly!!
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Will update this as it happens as far as I know. Will mostly be Palace.
James Comley (released)
Clint Hill agreed terms with QPR.
Some of the latest transfers that have been announced.
Ben Foster to Birmingham - Fee is thought to be around £6million. Good replacement for Hart, hopefully.
Jonjo Shelvey to Liverpool - £1.7million. Not sure if this is a Benitez move, but the player looks good.
Cristian Riveros to Sunderland - Unknown, rumoured at around £12million. Not seen him play, should get a glimpse at the World Cup.
Oh yeah... and David Villa has pretty much confirmed his move Barcelona. Said to be around £40million. If they sign Fabregas aswell... that team is going to be scary good.
David Villa to Barca, 34.5 Million
Fran Merida to Athletic Free
Chamahk to Arsenal Free (FUCK YALL!)
Spurs have agreed a deal for Brazilian midfielder Sandro. Anyone who has played FM should know who he is, if you don't, you're not playing it properly :P Decent signing, not sure how he will settle into our game.
Darren Ambrose is talking to QPR after a bid of 750k was accepted.
That sucks. I was hoping Burnley would make a bid forhim :(
I'm hoping the consortium takes over before anybody can secure a deal.
Nikola Zigic from Valencia to Birmingham - undisclosed but believed to be around £6 million.
Crouch 2.0
Ambrose has agreed terms with QPR for 750k.
Nick Carle has agreed terms with Sydney FC
Shaun Derry has been given permission to talk to QPR.
West Ham have made a bid for Frederic Piquionne [Lyon]
Wolves apparently made a £7.5m biud for Burnley Striker Steven Fletcher
Javier Hernandez [Chivas to Man Utd] Work permit ok'd
Kasper Schmeichel [Notts County to Leeds] Free
£7.5 million for Fletcher is the dumbest offer of the summer so far if that's true. The guy is worth £3 million tops.
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I'm a Burnley fan and even i think that it would be dumb for them to pay that money. Apparently we would get Wayne Hennessey & Chris Iwelumo (Akinibyi Mk II) along with the £7.5mil, lol!
The big rumour tonight is Gago and Higuain are in talks with Man City. Big for City cause of course the last time they took a second rate player from Spain...he was Robinho...HAHA!
Man City ruin everything, but 2 more garbage players. They can line up next to Santa Cruz.
Jermaine Beckford from Leeds to Everton
Dont know a whole lot about lower league football, but this move is very surprising. This guy got like 30 goals last 2 seasons and a 20 goal season before, hes still young. Surprised this move hasn't happened earlier.
He was very loyal to Leeds. Quite a lazy lad though, don't think he's quite cut out for top flight football.
I think its a good signing, its been arranged for a while anyway. When leeds played UTD in the FAcup he was the star of the team. Can probably see him scoring about 10-13 goals if given the chance which wouldnt be a bad debut season.
Also, Isnt Smalling meant to be moving from Fulham to Man Utd. Im sure that got arranged in the Jan transfer window?
Yeah man, that one goes through when the window opens for the out of contract moves. Think it's a week or so from now.
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Thomas Hitzlsperger from Lazio to West Ham. Dude has an unreal shot.
Jerome Boateng from Hamburg to Man City for 10.5 Million.
Adriano signed with Roma.
senderos from Arsenal to Fulham - free
Smalling to Man Utd may have already goe through of which I can piss myself laughing as the guy is utter wank
Johnny Ertl, the Austrian Ambassador has joined Sheffield United from Crystal Palace, undisclosed amount. I'm thinking it's for around 350k though.
Quote from: M.D.K. on June 09, 2010, 04:26:40 AM
senderos from Arsenal to Fulham - free
Smalling to Man Utd may have already goe through of which I can piss myself laughing as the guy is utter wank
He does appear to be utter wank...not sure how much Sir Al had been drinking that day.
2 (own) goals from defence!
Ballack from Chelsea to Bayern Leverkusen.
Crystal Palace on the brink of signing Andy Dorman on a free transfer.
I am actually more interested in Andy Dorman's transfer than that cunt Ballack's move.
Real Madrid have confirmed the signing of Argentina's Angel Di Maria from Benfica.
Just over £20 million.
too bad the lads done nothing in the WC.
David Silva from Valencia to Man City for what is said to be around 25 million.
and it begins.
Crystal Palace have signed David Wright from Ipswich whilst Danny Butterfield and Matty Lawrence have been given free transfers (when their contracts end soon). I think they asked to not renew their contracts.
Palace are also reportedly interested in Richard Wright (the defender), Lloyd Sam, James Harper and Clinton Morrison (FOR THE 3RD BLOODY TIME! :()
I keep hearing a lot about Fabiano desperately wanting to join Utd.
I hear dos Santos may be playing for Spurs full-time this year.
Wouldn't be surprised if Dos Santos makes more of an inroad into the Spurs team this season, he had a good year on loan, and was arguably one of Mexico's best players at the WC.
Silva to Man City from Valencia.
What a signing.
Boateng, Yaya Toure and now David Silva. Nice signings. No doubt about it City are going to have a hell of a team next season!
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Hypothically, Toure and Barry in the holding middle = sick.
Benayoun has left Liverpool and joined Chelsea for an undisclosed fee.
SO another team where he will rarely see the field. Nice for him.
Quote from: Cory on June 30, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
Hypothically, Toure and Barry in the holding middle = sick.
No De Jong?
I hope City are stupid enough to sell De Jong. That would make my day.
Portugals keeper, Eduardo from Sparta Braga to Genoa in Serie A
Lorik Cana from SUnderland to Galatasary (WHY!?)
Quote from: Cory on July 08, 2010, 12:07:17 PM
Portugals keeper, Eduardo from Sparta Braga to Genoa in Serie A
Lorik Cana from SUnderland to Galatasary (WHY!?)
..... Money? Maybe they have a replacement lined up? Maybe they need the transfer fee for the people running the club? Maybe the wage bill is too high?
It's bloody stupid to think everything falls under the philosophy "he's good, let's buy him". Sunderland are not a wealthy team, perhaps they need the cash, ever think about that?
Wasn't he their captain during his FIRST season there?
No real news has been made over that transfer, but seems foolish to let a guy who controls the field and has such leadership at 26 go, seemingly freely.
Well, Crystal Palace's captain for the past few years has also gone. Wanna know why? MONEY.
It's not always down to the manager. In fact, if a chairman wants money, he will quite often take matters into his own hands. Such as we saw with this whole Palace and Portsmouth dilemma last season.
Boruc from Celtic to Fiorentina
Ha! Nice signing Spag boys. That fat cunt is useless.
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bitter?
Dan Gosling has unexpectedly become the hottest property on the market. Apparently he's in talks with Newcastle, but I'm still holding out hope that Arsene makes an 11th hour swoop. He'd be solid backup for Song, and is versatile positionally too.
still the question...
.......whens Arsenal getting this goalie. If they stick with Almunia for next season..........ooooooh boy.
Quote from: Cory on July 12, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
still the question...
.......whens Arsenal getting this goalie. If they stick with Almunia for next season..........ooooooh boy.
replace goalie with team.
Goal scorers, wingers, wing-backs, goalkeepers? Perhaps a new CD and a new CM too?
Palace looking to buy 4 or 5 new players including loaning an unnamed striker from the Premiership. I think it may be a loan for Macheda of Man Utd.
Quote from: Ian on July 13, 2010, 02:51:31 AM
replace goalie with team.
There's really very little wrong with the team. Obviously we need another central defender to replace those out of contract, and it seems like a new goalkeeper is coming in. So the ONLY possible hole is the lack of backup for Song. What else would you change, seriously?
Quote from: Cory on July 12, 2010, 04:21:06 PM
bitter?
No, he plays for Celtic and he's a twat. Anyone that thinks it's a good idea to incite a near riot by wearing a Pope t-shirt during an Old Firm game and running towards the Rangers fans pointing to the shirt is a cock.
Not that I give a fuck about the whole religious thing with Rangers and Celtic, but his behaviour was just fucking idiotic and could have caused a full scale riot.
The Old Firm exodus to Middlesbrough continues with Kevin Thompson agreeing a 2 million pound deal from Rangers and Steven McManus joining from Celtic.
So that's, Barry Robson, Kris Boyd, Kevin Thompson and Steven McManus all gone to Middlesbrough. Just goes to show how far the Old Firm has fallen that a mid table Championship team can attract all our best players.
Fucking joke.
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George Burley is optimistic for promotion this year and wants to establish Palace in the premiership after 2 seasons.
I keep getting mates and the guys at FYP saying we now have the financial backing to be at Bolton's level in the premiership
Celtic also slapped 8 million on Aiden McGeady.
Shit, finally a good player not overpriced/inflated.
8 mill IS overpriced...
Thierry Henry has signed for the Red Bulls and will debut against Spurs! Would like to see that.
Quote from: Hyde on July 13, 2010, 10:35:43 AM
There's really very little wrong with the team. Obviously we need another central defender to replace those out of contract, and it seems like a new goalkeeper is coming in. So the ONLY possible hole is the lack of backup for Song. What else would you change, seriously?
Exactly.
Wing backs? Clichy is top 5 wing backs in the EPL, Sagna isn't weak. Vermalen was the best new EPL player last season. We need a Keeper, another center back.
There is a shit load wrong with Arsenal
You need another fullback at least one more centre back if not two, you could use a bit more bite in midfield and two decent strikers to add up front and a goalie. I make that a minimum of 6-7 new faces to push for 2nd.
We could use more depth if thats what you're getting at, but if all postions you mentioned were starters, I dont see it.
Quote from: Cory on July 14, 2010, 01:01:19 PM
We could use more depth if thats what you're getting at, but if all postions you mentioned were starters, I dont see it.
Depth is important...coupled with the fact Arsenal have a wank first 11.
We'll see.
Fabregas > anyone in Manchesters Midfield, just saying.
We need depth, but we're only 3 players from being a complete team.
GK- Need one, we wont even challenge next year with our current lineup.
Backline- Clichy/Sagna are both capable wing backs. Gibbs for depth. Vermalen had a better season than any of United center backs and he wasn't even supposed to start. We need another starter at CB if we lose Gallas.
Midfield- Assuming we keep Fabregas, who after seeing his playing time on Spain, he wouldn't get treated any different at Barca, we have the best midfielder in the Prem. Song is a legit holding midfielder, our best player last season aside from Fabregas. I agree 100000% with Ian, we need a enforcer in the middle, someone who can take the Petit role from the Undefeated season that we've lacked ever since. Walcott/Nasri on one side, both are finally started to produce, and Arshavin on the other. Depth could be improved on the wings when Arsh gets hurt, but we have Wilshere/Ramsey for average depth. Rosiky (sp?) needs to go.
Attack- Van Persie was on fire until he got hurt last year. If he played a full season, he would have made the scoring race a 3 way contest between him, Rooney, and Drogba. Bendter shouldn't start, but should get the 'super sub' role with added Peter Crouch affect. Eduardo needs to go. Chamahk from Bordeaux, he's a talent, but unproven. I'd like to see Arsenal go after Carew.
We need a few things, but our starting XI isn't "wank"
Quote from: Ian on July 14, 2010, 12:28:21 PM
You need another fullback
Sagna/Eboue is the best pair of right-backs in the league. Clichy has good and bad points but on balance isn't worth replacing, and his backup Gibbs would have gone to the World Cup had he not broken his foot. So I
really can't imagine why you would suggest Arsenal need a full back.
Quotetwo decent strikers to add up front
Absolute rubbish. Van Persie is one of the world's best strikers, we've just brought in Marouane Chamakh, and then we have Bendtner, Eduardo, Arshavin and Vela... where exactly are these "two decent strikers" going to play?
QuoteI make that a minimum of 6-7 new faces to push for 2nd.
Any club bringing in 6-7 new players to the first team squad would have a total disaster. Squads need to gel, you can't just throw a boatload of players together and expect them to win their games.
And your other comments ("bite in midfield" and extra centre backs) I had already acknowledged - the latter is simply to replace outgoing players, and the former is (as I had said) the only obvious gap in the squad.
Hasn't Eboue adapted more to a right-sided midfield role at Arsenal lately? Mostly due to his defensive abilities lacking. I think Sagna is one of the better right-backs in the Premier League, but Eboue not so much, he is pretty good going forward. The new signing Kocienky or something similar to that is a right-back come centre-back, so i guess he has brought in the new full-back.
Gunna have to disagree with RVP being a world class striker, i am purely going off of form in the last couple of seasons and internationally. He has had injuries that have hindered any sort of building of form, but he isn't a regular goalscorer and usually looks more comfortable coming off of the wing.. like pretty much every other striker at Arsenal bar Bendtner. Who again, not that great, decent in the air and has good instincts, but not going to be the striker that helps them to next level. The signing of Chamakh might prove to be good, i have only seen him in the Champions League though, very similar to Adebayor. Arshavin never looks comfortable up front, and the team would be wasting his talent by playing him in that position. Vela is creative, but again he isn't a goalscorer. I'd be surprised to see Eduardo getting alot of play this season.
Although i don't completly agree with Ian, i do feel that the current Arsenal team needs improvement. Personally feel that without Fabregas they aren't any better than Tottenham, Man City, Liverpool. I am Burnley fan though so i doubt my opinion would go far lol.
Quote from: El Mundo on July 14, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
Hasn't Eboue adapted more to a right-sided midfield role at Arsenal lately? Mostly due to his defensive abilities lacking. I think Sagna is one of the better right-backs in the Premier League, but Eboue not so much, he is pretty good going forward.
Season before last, yes - and his versatility is useful - but last season he primarily rotated right-back with Sagna, taking over the position in most of the games against anti-football teams.
If you still think RVP is "more comfortable coming off the wing" you didn't watch him enough in the new 4-3-3 last season. And I respectfully disagree with everyone who thinks he hasn't proven himself. If you cut out the bullshit pundits that make up 90% of the media, everyone who knows what they're talking about rates him among the very best in the world. His ball skills are unbelievable. On a side note, did you see the stats about Robben and Sneijder passing to him so little during the World Cup? Incredible how they let their egos get in the way of success. (Er... England team!...)
And I listed Arshavin as a forward because I'm assuming we're retaining 4-3-3, but if we revert to 4-4-2 then you're right, he'd probably be a winger.
Burnley fans are entitled to their opinions! And you're right, "without Fabregas" we might be little better than Spurs, but Fabregas is still with the club and I don't believe he's going this summer - and if he does, we'd be spending the money replacing him. So "without Fabregas" is an illogical comparison (unless Cesc were to get a long-term injury).
I didn't see any stats for RVP at the WCup, but from the games i saw, he didn't seem to get much of the ball, especially to his feet. I have just always felt that a team that plays aswell as Arsenal and creates the oppertunities they do with their style of play, the strikers should be getting more goals.
The Fabregas point; what i was trying to get at was that Ian was stating what Arsenal needed to do if they were to challenge for the title, and his opinion was that they need several changes. Without Fabregas, they aren't a team who can challenge for the title, and its highly unlikely that Arsenal could attract someone of his ability & potential, so they would have to make several changes to be effective challengers.
That all being said, Arsenal are one of my favourite teams in the league, i like the way they develop players and such.
If you all fancied some Burnley transfer news (>.>). We have signed Ross Wallace, Dean Marney & Chris Iwelumo (i.e. Akinbiyi mk2), some adventurous signings there... Brian Laws how i loathe you. I know a couple of people close to the club and apparently Chris Eagles is on his way to Rangers, just needs to agree personal isues.
Not gonna lie, RVP shouldn't play striker.
If I was the coach, I'd have him play in a attacking midfielder role. He doesn't have alot strength or pace, but he can finish, he excellent ball control, and has one hell of a shot. Have him just hover around the top of the box and let him fire away, as when healthy, hes capable to 20+ goal seasons.
Quote from: Cory on July 15, 2010, 12:57:27 PM
Not gonna lie, RVP shouldn't play striker.
If I was the coach, I'd have him play in a attacking midfielder role. He doesn't have alot strength or pace, but he can finish, he excellent ball control, and has one hell of a shot. Have him just hover around the top of the box and let him fire away, as when healthy, hes capable to 20+ goal seasons.
I'm really, really glad you're not the coach. Van Persie absolutely owned the Premier League as the central striker in the 4-3-3 until Chiellini injured him.
I do kind of see what you're saying about having him "hover", but he does that anyway. In our 4-3-3 the central striker isn't a poacher, nor a target man - if you watched the first half of last season you'll have seen that Van Persie often has the ball at his feet 25 yards out and can either slip someone in (hence his high number of assists) or have a blast at goal.
Out of interest, Cory, how often do you watch Arsenal? I'm not trying to have a snipe at you, just want to gauge what you're going on with your comments so I know the kinds of reference points we have.
Well i live in Canada, so I get maybe half a dozen games, and all their Champions League games. I think high attacking midfield, almost to the point of a central forward would be key. Id rather him be able to be further back from the strikers so he can get the earlier balls, essentially what he played last year, but more "holding" I guess, so that Arshavin and Walcott can do all the running.
Arshavin? Running? ;D
I hope you aren't counting on more than one sprint per game... he's the most unfit player to wear the shirt since Wenger came in.
BIG NEWS OF TODAY
Joe 'I still need to learn to count and write' Cole has signed a 4 year deal with the scouse scum.
Also I will explain my feelings on my Bold (not Steve I might add) claims about the Gunners I have made earlier when God allows me to breathe lol.
Rumour has it we are bringing in Robbie Keane to add to the lure of Martin Jol... a manager I would actually not be too unhappy about having given that his real undoing was lasagna
Robbie Keane and Andy Johnson at Fulham is something I'd really like to see.
As for Chris Eagles leaving Burnley, that's a shame. I always kept my eye on the kid and thought he could've been at a much higher level than he is if Man United had given him the chance.
I'm not shocked about Joe Cole, I thought it would either be Spurs or Liverpool to be honest, I don't think Man United had much of a chance. Hopefully Cole can give Liverpool a bit of a boost because they definitely needed someone like him last season. I hope this restarts his careeer.
Robie Keane has been linked with.. Wait for it...
Villa again for about the 8th season running. All because we wanted to sign him years ago and never did. I hope he goes to fulham.
Fuck AJ, Keane and Zamora FTW
Fuck Zamora :P AJ and Robbie at Palace in 2003 would've kept us up!!
Eagles rejected the oppertunity to play for Rangers... ??? God knows why, could've been playing Champs League football, guess he is holding out on a Premiership return. Laws doesn't seem too interested in keeping him, apparently the fee was around £1.5million, which is pennies for a player like him, don't think he is worth a lot more though.
Dave Nugent has decided he would rather stay at Portsmouth, prick :-\
Arsenal have agreed to sell Eduardo to Shakhtar Donetsk for around 6-7 million.
Making more money, and getting rid of a talent who will never be the same following an injury. Eduardo was painful to watch last season, too slow, and couldn't finish.
So were sitting on 35-40 million in transfers funds now, seeing as Chamahk was free, and that french defender and this pending Eduardo trade balances out. Why haven't Arsenal been too active? GET A KEEPER!
Apparently, Sir Fergie has said that he is comfortable with the squad he has got and is not expecting to make any more signings. Although that could also be read as 'the Glaziers have fucked us royally so we can't afford any new players. I'd never been bothered about the Glaziers before but the lack of transfers and budget kit design clearly show just how fucked United are financially. What happened to the £80 million we were supposed to have available from the sale of Ronaldo?
So far Fergie has signed two youth players who won't get anywhere near the team and has not dealt with any of our problems. We still need replacements for Giggs, Scholes and Neville and now also need a replacement for that perma-crock Ferdinand. We also need backup for Rooney. Everyone saw how shit we were without him last season and I don't think we'll be any better if he gets injured this year (or even when he's playing if his form for England continues in the Premier League).
I'm not asking for big name signings ala Manchester City but some signings that could fit the holes in our first team rather than our youth team would be nice. While some will argue that we were unlucky not to win the league and at least get to the final of the Chapions league last season with the same squad and that they should still be good enough this season, this argument ignores the fact that the teams around us are getting better while we stay the same. I'm particularly thinking of Manchester City who have now noticed that their defence was shite last season and have decided to fix it. The way things are going, we'll be lucky to stay in the top four this season and will probably be in the Championship within the next five (if the banks haven't closed us down by then)... at least I'd be able to get tickets then.
(Sorry about the rant but the whole thing is starting to piss me off. I'm now off to ask some Spurs fans what the best way to get rid of your club's owners is.)
Mexican dude will come into his own...
and Chris SMalling is your new Rio....
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hernandez looks good.
No really, he does; is that eyeliner or mascara he uses?
Arsenal are holding out for Schwarzer. Rumour has it that they have offered him a player/coach role to lure him to the club
Yeah and he's interested but will only prob go if we get James
I donno, he's a temporary fix. Id much rather get Lloris or Neuer (before he gets picked up by Bayern)
Looks like James will be on his way to sunderland.
Danny Wilson [rangers - liverpool] 5m
Eduardo [Arsenal - Shaktar] 6m
Dan Gosling [Free/Everton - Newcastle] Good signing, Bad Fuck up by the Everton Celrical team.
And the transfer that is pissing me off, as a Villa fan I just want to see the back of Milner now. If he doesnt want to be there, he wont perform. Barry did exactly the same thing. Let him go. 20m would bring 3 decent players to the club, I just dont know how i feel about those 3 players possibly being Robbie Keane, Aiden McGeadie and Scott Parker.
Quote from: Cory on July 21, 2010, 03:45:04 PM
I donno, he's a temporary fix. Id much rather get Lloris or Neuer (before he gets picked up by Bayern)
Lloris was absolute gash in the World Cup.
^
The entire french team was poor. Lloris was the top keeper in Europe last season, he single handedly embarassed Real Madrid in Champions league.
Note to the people reading Cory's posts;
I have worked out that my head explodes a lot less if I just don't listen to anything our Canadian friend says :P
I have the same problem with Cory's wording. Its not his fault cause he is North American he speaks about football in terminology he would speak about American based sports. Its irritating but not Stool Bashers fault, more of just me being a stick in the mud.
Though I do find a lot of your points COMPLETELY misguided Corster. ;D
So you guys think Lloris sucks?
Quote from: Cory on July 23, 2010, 11:31:48 AM
So you guys think Lloris sucks?
No I think he is decent, but its more the way you say it. Like I said Cor, its like a pet peeve of mine...not your fault, its just weird to hear a North American express his views on our football in the way you do...well for me anyway, cause the terminology and stuff is just kind of what we take the piss out of Americans for when commentating on their sports.
Again, this isnt a shot at you mate...although as stated I think your views on football...are kind of out there sometimes. :)
I don't rate Lloris at all.
But so long as Wenger doesn't come snooping around South London for a goalkeeper I'm perfectly happy :)
Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2010, 01:02:18 PM
But so long as Wenger doesn't come snooping around South London for a goalkeeper I'm perfectly happy :)
He might do... I heard there were some prime young rent boys down there...
Lloris is supremely overrated, he's really no better than a Joe Hart.
And so the spending spree continues. Aleksandar Kolarov to Man City for about £19 million. I guess that gives them some cover at left back. But it means Bridge is probably back to where he's used to...the bench haha. Again the fee has been blown out of proportaion because of the financial clout City have but he's still a handy player. And they're buying more than attackers this season so should have a more rounded squad and thus be a bigger threat come the new season.
Crystal Palace have bought Owen Garvan from Ipswich Town.
This was confirmed today despite the fact he was present at the official team photo shoot yesterday.
Rumoured signings right now are Matt Oakley (Ipswich too I think), Sam Vokes (Wolves) and Jay Simpson (Arsenal)
Might be able to start the season with a proper full strength side which would be nice. Unfortunately though Sean Scannell, one of our many diamonds in the rough (along with Clyne, Zaha etc) has been injured for 6 months!
Also more great news as our 20 goal-scoring midfield star of last season Darren Ambrose has signed a new contract. Hopefully Speroni will follow suit!
Really hope Wenger keeps Simpson, I think he could see some touches this season, maybe Loan him out to Palace.
I think it's pretty well accepted that Simpson's Arsenal career is over, so prepare yourself for disappointment Cory!
I'm in agreement there. I don't think he can progress any more at Arsenal. Palace have probably the best training facility in the country in which he will actually get a great number of games. I may be a little biased, but I truly think there's only one good place for youngsters to grow and that's SE25. If the likes of Routledge, Moses and Watson were given a season more each, they could've become so much better than they are now.
2 big defeinsive transfers in europe today:
Bruno Alves from Porto to Zenit
Rafinhia from Shalke to Genoa
Quote from: Rob on August 04, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
I'm in agreement there. I don't think he can progress any more at Arsenal. Palace have probably the best training facility in the country in which he will actually get a great number of games. I may be a little biased, but I truly think there's only one good place for youngsters to grow and that's SE25. If the likes of Routledge, Moses and Watson were given a season more each, they could've become so much better than they are now.
I have been meaning to ask you this for ages mate. Did you ever see that footy documentary a few years back now following Palace on T4 or something. Their youth team. Routledge was one of the main folks in it.
No I didn't but I'll look it up because this is the second time I've been asked about that this week!
Wenger doesn't respect young english players, he likes his foreign boys
He likes Walcott
Ah the one who didnt come from the arsenal youth system
Wilshire?
no future with arsenal
Hey Cory get yourself over to England...your foreign...you can get a run in the first team if you let Arsene cradle the balls and work the shaft.
Lol, my experience in the 3 months that I lived in England, was that every day is overcast, and it was snowing in April. Weather sucks, I'll pull what every good foreign player in the EPL does and go to Spain.
Well that explains why you support shitty Arsenal.
Maybe you should do what Fabregas is going to do and go to Spanish football as well.
Well looks like Aiden McGeady is on his way to russia...
and apparently a fee has been agreed for Ramires to join Chelsea.
And Bolton signed a striker, but i forget who, but sot them a fair few pennies.
As for Arsenal, at least they won the emirates cup.. That will look good next to all their other silverware :-\ They still need to sign a few players, but i dont see that happening because Wenger will go with his youth, and they will fail at the last hurdle again. Maybe the Coca Cola cup?
Bolton signed Klasnic after the loan was made permanent.
God, still no keeper in sight.
At least that Konceilny (SP?) sounds like a monster in the back, according to the recaps I've read from the Emeirates Cup.
Arsenal have accepted multiple bids for Jay Simpson from Championship clubs including QPR and Crystal Palace.
West Ham have made another signing this time Kiwi defender Winston Reid
Sunderland have had a bid Onouha (sp) rejected by Man city for some bizarre reason
Phil Degen from Liverpool to Stuttgart on loan
Nicky Weaver has gone to Sheff Weds
Stoke City have reportedly had a bid of 14 million accepted for Loic Remy along with West Ham and Liverpool, but he's really not saying much about it.
Fabregas is staying.
Fabregas is going.
Fabregas is staying.
Fabregas is going.
Nobody fucking knows!!!
Quote from: Rob on August 06, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
Fabregas is going.
Fabregas is staying.
Fabregas is going.
Nobody fucking knows!!!
This.
It happens every year with an arsenal player. Wasn't it Viera who was staying/going every summer for about 5 seasons. Then thankfully, he eventually fucked off
I wish something would happen so the papers could get over the Fabregas, Torres, Milner bullshit.
Looking at a Fulham guy (MDK)
Will Senderos start?
Another kick in the balls for Utd fans. It looks like Ozil is going to Barcelona for £8million. If that's true, it's a bargain and Sir Alex has fucked up by trying to be too coy.
Quote from: Kirk on August 10, 2010, 07:59:11 AM
Another kick in the balls for Utd fans. It looks like Ozil is going to Barcelona for £8million. If that's true, it's a bargain and Sir Alex has fucked up by trying to be too coy.
And just makes Barca look Stacked
It also proves that we have no money at all to spend. Sir Alex keeps claiming that there is no value in the market but Ozil for £8million sounds like great value to me, so he's clearly saying what the Glaziers tell him to. We couldn't even afford £0million for Joe Cole, who is apparently the best player in the world, so it looks like Utd are pretty fucked in the long run. At least I'll be able to get tickets when we're in the Championship.
8mill for Ozil is very good, but he won't get alot of playing time in Barca, especially with Inestia playing his position.
Ozil looks good, but then like Karel Poborsky all those years back had one amazing tournament and the world thought he would rock it.
Jury is out, but at 8 million given the prices today thats a steal potentially.
He's always had a problem finishing thought. I remember he was one of the stars of the U-21 tournament a few years ago, but he just couldn't hit the broad side of the barn, and even during the world cup, minus that wonder goal, his finishing isn't as great as it should be for an attacking midfielder.
That being said, if he goes to Barca they're not getting him because they need him to fill the net, much like Xavi, what he lacks in finishing he makes up in playmaking ability, vision, and ball control. 8 Million compared to say, Kolarov for 19m to Man City, in this inflated market, its a steal.
Blackpool sign 4 nobodies...
Craig Cathcart who had as much hope as breaking into the United first team as Fnord had of successfully seducing Midas
Elliot Grandin
Ludovic Sylvestre
Malaury Martin
Calvalho from Chelsea to Real Madrid
Quote from: Cory on August 09, 2010, 01:48:41 PM
Looking at a Fulham guy (MDK)
Will Senderos start?
To be honest before his ruptured achilles which has ruled him out for six months I would have still said no. Hughes and Hangeland are too strong of a partnership as proven when we swapped Smalling in and shipped goals. We do need backup though
Thanks for helping me avoid a mistake on my fantasy team, lol.
Kenwyne Jones from Sunderland to Stoke City. Could pair up well with Fuller, (is Beattie still alive?)
Bebe to Utd for £7million. No, I've never heard of him either. Apparently he's a 20 yr old homeless Portuguese striker from their 3rd division.
Christian Poulsen from Juventus to Liverpool. Really good pick up in the middle of the park, especially if they can hold onto Macherano.
Ramieres to Chelsea
'Super' Mario Balotelli to Man City. This guys a fucking stud, excellent pick up. He's attitude is Terrell Owens esq, but hes an amazing talent.
McGeady officially went to Russia
About the same as what Ronaldo was then...
Hes the perfect player, minus attitude. Hes fast enough to beat Premier League defenders from the wing, strong enough to muscle guys off the ball and win headers, has an excellent shot (took Inters free kicks when playing) and can cross from the wing.
Big rumour is City are looking at a 96 million pound bid for Zlatan
outrageous, considering he had trouble cracking Barcas first team last season.
schwarzer has handed in transfer request.
possible situations
Arsenal get Schwarzer IF we nab Shay Given
Arsenal get Given and we keep Schwarzer
I heard also:
If Arsenal get the aussie, Friedel will go to Fulham, and Given to Villa
Personally, I think well get Schwarzer, but Given is more talented SLIGHTLY. Either or, much improved from Almunia.
either way as long as we aren't using pascal zuberbuhler i'm happy
I would take Friedel over Given anyday.
The only plus side is that Given has time on his side over Friedel, so that wouldn't be too bad. I guess its all up to the new manager.
But when Milner does vacate for City, seeing Ireland and Given coming the other way would be very nice.
This all depends on who Villa hire as well I guess.
Fulham got the clean sheet today with Schwazer...so maybe they'll be fine?
Quote from: Cory on August 14, 2010, 03:47:19 PM
Fulham got the clean sheet today with Schwazer...so maybe they'll be fine?
You meant without...my argument is, Schwazer was fucking shite before he joined Fulham IMO. Some keepers are only as good as having certain types of defenders in front of them. Even at Fulham he has had his moments...
I can't see Given hanging around after Joe Hart's performance today. Four or five world class saves in the first half. That one from Defoe's overhead kick was incredible. Given's reaction on the bench was priceless too!
I reckon there will be a lot of keepers moving around in the next few weeks.
Back on the subject of the thread, James Beattie signed for Rangers! I'm well chuffed with that signing, the first we've paid for in over 2 years!! With the loss of Boyd we need someone who can put the ball in the net and if he's fit I reckon Beattie will bag a ton of goals up here. Great bit of business for a club with zero cash at the moment.
Here's hoping Celtic don't use the money from selling McGeady to get Belamy on loan! We'll be fucked if they do! lol.
Right, time for the first Match of the Day of the season! Woo hoo!
Peace
Duckman
Quote from: Duckman on August 14, 2010, 05:14:40 PM
Right, time for the first Match of the Day of the season! Woo hoo!
Peace
Duckman
I am there...and even if it was watching City and Spurs on HD on the new tele is was like a different type of watching today...I LOVE FOOTBALL!
schwarzer was gash before fulham and would have been lost without brede and hughes. That is why people are so stoked with stockdale today who admittedly played a blinder.
Quote from: Trumpers on August 14, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
You meant without...my argument is, Schwazer was fucking shite before he joined Fulham IMO. Some keepers are only as good as having certain types of defenders in front of them. Even at Fulham he has had his moments...
Yeah, well anything better than that sack of shit Almunia. How in the fuck did he like Ngog squeek that weak goal in near post? Awful keeper.
Biggest transfer news of the summer. Crystal Palace are on the brink of signing 37 year old Edgar Davids, bahaha.... I think it will be good for him to have a final year of football in this division
Well its all but gone through
Brad Jones [Boro - Liverpool] 2.3m
James Milner [Villa - City] Unknown
Steven Ireland [City - Villa] p/x with deal above
Mesut Ozil [Bremen - Real Madrid] 11.5m
Balotelli [Inter - City] Unknown
And Mancini has all but told Given to jog on
QuoteI hope he will stay with us because we are in four competitions," said Mancini.
"But I respect his wishes if he wants to leave."
Fuck Schwarzer.....Given come to Gunners!!
Dembele to Fulham.....this guys a stud. Will pair up nicely with Zamora.
Quote from: Cory on August 18, 2010, 11:01:45 AM
Dembele to Fulham.....this guys a stud.
Mate please stop using the term stud lol. It basically implies here you want to fuck him up the ass cause you find him attractive.
Stud is the gayest fucking word you could possibly use...
lol stud over here means like Impressively talented, usually towards a young athlete.
Quote from: Cory on August 18, 2010, 12:40:58 PM
lol stud over here means like Impressively talented, usually towards a young athlete.
Yeah that doesn't sound gay at all.. ::)
Use beast. But yeah looks impressive
Quote from: Cory on August 18, 2010, 12:40:58 PM
lol stud over here means like Impressively talented, usually towards a young athlete.
I am aware of this stud term in the USA...but right now Cory means 'Fruity Fudgepacker' over here lol
fine ill re-frame from using stud, and go with beast from here onward.
Well now you've changed from stud to beast it all sounds the same lmao
Edgar Davids has agreed terms with Palace and has joined on a free.
Peter Odemwingie from Moscow to West Brom, he netted 17 last year in the russian league, so now West Brom have someone up front with Bednar.
.....^ scored in debut. Maybe a good pickup for Brom.
Van Der Vaart has asked Man Utd to sign him. So has Ian Monks...
Arsenal got Sebastien Squillaci from Sevilla for I've heard 4 mill and 6.5 mill.
Never heard of the guy, but hes 31 and used to be in Lyon's staring XI, so good depth I guess.
NOW a keeper maybe?
You can have Schwarzer after watching Stockdale play his bollocks off in 2 tricky games. We can then have a keeper with 15 years in him and you get 2 seasons max but you gotta offer more than 2 mill. I am calling it now. 4 million bid gets accepted
Fulham want like 4 mill and Vela. I dont think Wegner is that stupid.
Stupid enough to do it i reckon. Rafik halliche just signed from ben fica for undisclosed amount
Diego from Juventus to Wolfsberg for 12.5 million
Javier Mascherno from Liverpool to Barca and 17.5 million
If that's not an understatement that Wenger has given up on Hangeland I don't know what is
Looks like Fulham are getting Salcido to replace the outgoing Koncheskey and are gonna have 2mill to spare as Salcido is costing 2.2 and Koncheskey looks set to be going for 4!
Slightly annoying to watch I'd imagine as a Fulham fan MDK. Your side being raped because of their success last year.
To be honest we have a loyal squad on the whole. Konchesky isn't essential and Schwarzer wilk only go if we get given. Hangeland has been wanted for a while and nobody leaving is having the Bullard effect. Plus roy is giving us two exciting Scandinavian youngsters who he knows will suit the Fulham set up as well as 4million so we lose Smalling who is wank and Konchesky who isn't irreplaceable and get an experienced Mexican in salcido, Dembele who is a great pairing with Bobby. And two awesome youngsters so not that worried with roque possibly coming as well
Ibrah from Barca to AC Milan on a loan deal.
Major transfers involving British clubs
Robinho (Manchester City - AC Milan) Undisclosed
Asamoah Gyan (Rennes - Sunderland) £13m
Paul Konchesky (Fulham - Liverpool) Player exchange + cash
Eidur Gudjohnsen (Monaco - Stoke) Loan
Jermaine Pennant (Real Zaragoza - Stoke) Loan
Marc Wilson (Portsmouth - Stoke) Player exchange + cash
Salif Diao (unattached - Stoke) Free
Stipe Pletikosa (Spartak Moscow - Tottenham) Loan
Alexander Hleb (Barcelona - Birmingham) Loan
Martin Jiranek (Spartak Moscow - Birmingham) Undisclosed
Jean Beausejour (Club America - Birmingham) Undisclosed
Emiliano Insua (Liverpool - Galatasaray) Loan
Rodrigo Moreno (Benfica - Bolton) Loan
Joseph Yobo (Everton - Fenerbahce) Loan
Armand Traore (Arsenal - Juventus) Loan
Martyn Waghorn (Sunderland - Leicester) £3m
DJ Campbell (Leicester - Blackpool) Undisclosed
Marcus Bent (Birmingham - Wolves) Loan
Franco Di Santo (Chelsea - Wigan) Undisclosed
Tom Cleverley (Manchester United - Wigan) Loan
Gylfi Sigurdsson (Reading - Hoffenheim) £6m
Tom Cleverley (Manchester United - Wigan) Loan
Damien Plessis (Liverpool - Panathinaikos) Undisclosed
Liam Lawrence (Stoke-Portsmouth) Player exchange
Dave Kitson (Stoke-Portsmouth) Player exchange
Rob Hulse (Derby - QPR) Undisclosed
Tommy Smith (Portsmouth - QPR) Undisclosed
Anthony Stokes (Hibernian - Celtic) Undisclosed
Richard Foster (Aberdeen - Rangers) Loan
Andrius Velicka (Rangers - Aberdeen) Loan
Teemu Tainio (Sunderland - Ajax) Free
Felipe Caicedo (Manchester City - Levante) Loan
Major transfers involving foreign clubs
Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Milan â€" Schalke) 13 million euros
Jose Manuel Jurado (Atletico Madrid â€" Schalke) Undisclosed
Nicolas Plestan (Lille â€" Schalke) Undisclosed
Marco Borriello (AC Milan â€" Roma) Loan
Leandro Rinaudo (Napoli â€" Juventus) Loan
Zvjezdan Misimovic (Wolfsburg â€" Galatasaray) Undisclosed
Marius Stankevicius (Valencia â€" Sampdoria) Undisclosed
Mauro Camoranesi (Juventus â€" Stuttgart) Undisclosed
Pape Diakhate (Dynamo Kiev â€" Lyon) Loan
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (unattached â€" Rapid Vienna)
Kris Stadsgaard (Rosenborg.- Malaga) Undisclosed
Walter Ponce (Universidad Catolica - Racing Santander) Loan
Other domestic deals
Francis Dickoh (Utrecht - Hibernian) Undisclosed
Maceo Rigters (Blackburn - Willem II) Loan
Anthony Gardner (Hull - Crystal Palace) Loan
Anthony Gerrard (Cardiff - Hull) Loan
Yuki Abe (Urawa Red Diamonds - Leicester) Undisclosed
Torbjorn Agdestein (Stord - Brighton) Undisclosed
Nacer Barazite (Arsenal - Vitesse Arnhem) Loan
Liam Boyce (Cliftonville - Werder Bremen) Loan
Adam Clayton (Manchester City - Leeds) Undisclosed
Tom Craddock (Luton - Oxford) Undisclosed
Lauri Dalla Valle (Liverpool - Fulham) Player exchange
Craig Dawson (Rochdale - West Brom) Undisclosed
Craig Dawson (West Brom - Rochdale) Loan
Salif Diao (unattached - Stoke)
Alexei Eremenko (Metalist Kharkiv - Kilmarnock) Loan
Jonathan Fortune (unattached - Charlton)
Jermaine Grandison (Coventry - Tranmere) Loan
Jonathan Grounds (Middlesbrough - Hibernian) Loan
Ben Hamer (Reading - Brentford) Loan
Ian Harte (Carlisle - Reading) Undisclosed
Nick Hegarty (Grimsby - St Mirren) Undisclosed
Alex Kacaniklic (Liverpool - Fulham) Player exchange
Zurab Khizanishvili (Blackburn - Reading) Loan
Kazenga LuaLua (Newcastle - Brighton) Loan
Ben Marshall (Stoke - Carlisle) Loan
Arnaud Mendy (Derby - Tranmere) Loan
Lubomir Michalik (Leeds - Carlisle) Loa
Adifane Noussoura (unattached - Lincoln)
Ramon Nunez (unattached - Leeds)
Richard O'Donnell (Sheffield Wednesday - Grimsby) Loan
Marlon Pack (Portsmouth - Cheltenham) Loan
Josh Payne (Doncaster - Oxford) Loan
Matt Phillips (Wycombe - Blackpool) £325,000
Alan Sheehan (Leeds - Swindon) Free
Andrew Taylor (Middlesbrough - Watford) Loan
Charlie Taylor (Sutton United - Barnet) Undisclosed
Ollie Thorne (Newport - Kidderminster) Free
Stephane Zubar (unattached - Plymouth)
Scott Severin (Watford - Dundee United) Free
Well another transfer deadline gone; and Villa yet again have done fuck all.
One player in Steven Ireland and that was only down to a part exchange.
Due to the fact we have been pissing around with all the manager rumours, has not even let us test the transfer market. Hell, How good would Eidur Gudjohnson have been for a year on Loan, but no stoke go and pick him up.
Yeah it reopens in January, but that is way too late. Watching them last Sunday just shows that half the players are tired already, and there is no depth on the bench. If we are still in touch with the top 6 in December I will be shocked.
I just hope it isnt too late
I left the RVV move off the list because that was rumoured not 100 percent...now it sounds like it is 100 percent.
Spurs will be doomed regardless if they play Bale at Left Back anymore.
Gonna toss
Dzeko to Man City
Suarez to Liverpool.
Nice pick up. If they intend to keep Torres, this could be a phenominal partnership if Torres stays healthy
For Liverpool to work, they need to keep Torres away from Chelsea
Liverpool are the bestest everest & Fernando Torres is my hero. He is not a petulant child who has spent all season playing like a guy with somewhere else to be. You are all cunts [/jason scene]
*cough*cough*
Excuse me. What I meant to say was Torres to Chelsea would be a good move for everybody IMO. Torres doesn't get the service he needs at Liverpool, Liverpool won't get 35-40 offered for him again unless they have Mr. Miyagi on staff to sort out his injury problems & Chuck Norris to sort out his attitude & Chelsea could use the depth up front. That's my take anyway
just need to say your avatar is fucking awesome Johnny
Torres and Drogba wouldn't be fair to the rest of the Prem. Move to Chelsea? no thanks.
Drogba isn't all that.... Proved that yesterday...
Yeah, he just nets 20 goals consistantly every season.
Reports have Torres to Chelsea for 48 million and Caroll to Pool for 35
Both looking like done deals. Amazing - Jan transfer window is usually boring as fuck.
Daivd Luiz is also going to Chelsea for £21 million.
Looks like Chelsea and Liverpool are making some serious statements of intent.
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Quote of the year so far, stolen from a friend of mine on Facebook.
His opinion on "Torres out, Carroll in" at the 'Pool.
"It's like gettin' dumped by Eva Mendes then hookin' up on the rebound with Serena Williams. Not the worst, but you wouldn't want to tell your mates."
Quote from: Cory on January 30, 2011, 01:00:59 PM
Yeah, he just nets 20 goals consistantly every season.
Club Season Premier League FA Cup League Cup Europe Others Total
App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals App Goals
Chelsea 2004â€"05 26 10 2 0 4 1 9 5 0 0 41 16
2005â€"06 29 12 3 1 1 0 7 1 1 2 41 16
2006â€"07 36 20 6 3 5 4 12 6 1 0 60 33
2007â€"08 19 8 1 0 1 1 11 6 0 0 32 15
2008â€"09 24 5 6 3 2 1 10 5 0 0 42 14
2009â€"10 32 29 4 3 2 2 5 3 1 0 44 37
2010â€"11 22 9 0 0 0 0 3 1 1 0 26 10
Really? 20 goals consistently? Really...?
My favourite joke about Andy Carroll so far?
Andy Carrol is the biggest waste of money since Joanna Yeate's pizza
I've not laughed so hard in a long time Adam, thanks.
I've stolen it for facebook btw
Might as well get this started now as we've got the first big deal of the summer!
Jordan Henderson is going from Sunderland to Liverpool, he's at Anfield today for a medical. Sunderland have confirmed they've accepted an offer. Reports have the deal at anywhere between £16-£20 million - also reports David N'Gog is going to Sunderland as part of the deal but that's not been confirmed yet.
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Arsenal have announced the signing of 19-year-old Finland Under-21 defender Carl Jenkinson from Charlton.
No fee announced.
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Although Rich would be pleased, I think you mean Liverpool and not the Boro Sambo. What a fucking waste of money if you ask me.
Ah good spot! My bad.
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Phil Jones from Blackburn to Manchester Utd. Jones having medical this afternoon at Old Trafford. Fee believed to be in the region of £15 million.
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Just shows how much being young and British affects transfer fee. Jeez. This money seems very giddy.
With the new league rules brought last season (?) it was always going to hike the value of promising young English players. Buut I think the deal for Jones is good one, he is only 19 or so and he was first team regular at Blackburn, he's strong, composed and really versatile, seen him play at centreback, rightback, midfield, and knowing Blackburn he has probably done a Samba and go on up top a couple of times. Jones, Smalling, Fabio & Rafael in a few years time that should be a cracking defense.
The Henderson deal is good, for Sunderland. Just shows how little investment has been put into Liverpools youth in the last few years, no doubt the cause of Benitez. I can only think of one player who has come through the ranks and proved to be decent, and that's Martin Kelly, but then since Daglish took over they have been playing more defensively, which allows them to play the likes of Spearing, Flanaghan, and Kelly without them being too exposed.
Henderson + Carroll = Fernando Torres. Kind of. Who'dda thought that a year ago.
Jones met with Wenger last night according to Sky Sports News. Harry Redknapp also just did an interview saying Spurs were in for Jones too. Redknapp was signing his praises, calling him a future England international etc.
The kid has a ton of potential from what I've seen of him this season and obviously all the big teams were keen on him. Looks like Ferguson has got in ahead of the others.
Maybe he'll be the guy who eventually replaces Vidic with Smalling replacing Ferdinand?
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BBC said he rejected both Liverpool and Arsenal to choose United. Which is kinda odd since when the youngsters meet Wenger they often pick Arsenal. I guess it goes to show how much Arsenal are slipping and becoming less and less attractive.
Put yourself in his shoes, which defense would you rather play in? One team you're training and playing with Vidic or Ferdinand, and the other Kocielny or Squillaci. He won't be waiting around for his chance too long either, Ferdinand doesn't have many seasons in him and Evans & Brown are on there way from what i've heard.
I heard Brown, Gibson and +1 were on their way to Sunderland.
The Jones transfer just shows that Ferguson is looking to build a squad that can last and go on to conquer, not one that will disband in a few seasons and be left at square one again; let them learn from the likes of Vidic and Ferdinand, that is enough experience in itself.
I see Utd making a few signings like this; they wont compete with players that the likes of Barca have now, so why try? Build a team and them beat them
Quote from: El Mundo on June 08, 2011, 02:45:07 PM
Put yourself in his shoes, which defense would you rather play in? One team you're training and playing with Vidic or Ferdinand, and the other Kocielny or Squillaci. He won't be waiting around for his chance too long either, Ferdinand doesn't have many seasons in him and Evans & Brown are on there way from what i've heard.
Uhh, Vermaelen. He's one of the top center backs in the league.
But I definatly agree with Arsenal being less and less attractive. Wegner needs a big transfer window, which we all know no matter how much I pray, wont happen.
Ah, apologies, forgot about him, spent too long on the treatment table this season to really judge him. But he did have great first season for Arsenal. I didn't mention Djourou either. I just don't think any of them are on the same level as Ferdinand/Vidic.
I read somewhere that the third player in the Sunderland trio bid is John O'Shea. Not sure how much truth there is too it.
Swansea & Norwich have both made decent buys, all strikers. Swansea have broken their transfer with a mighty £3.5mil signing of Danny Graham. And Norwich have signed Steve Morison & James Vaughan.
Vermaelen?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Vidic
Terry
Hangeland
Hughes
Dunne
Alex
Jagielka?
To name the first few. I'd rather work under Fergie than Wenger and rather work with alongside Vidic and Ferdinand for tutilege than Vermaelan. And don't say for a minute that the 2 fulham boys aren't because Wenger has gone for our central def plus GK for 2 years now!
Smalling? Behave. That guy is a big profit for Fulham foor very little loss.
Vidic, Terry, Hangeland, Alex, David Luiz are all I say that are better than him.
Dunne/Jagielka/Toure/ Roger Johnson are probably on par with him. And I said one of the top, he'd defiantly crack top 10 in the prem, anywhere from 7-10.
And
Brad Fridel signed with Spurs.
Quote from: Cory on June 08, 2011, 05:27:36 PM
Vidic, Terry, Hangeland, Alex, David Luiz are all I say that are better than him.
Dunne/Jagielka/Toure/ Roger Johnson are probably on par with him. And I said one of the top, he'd defiantly crack top 10 in the prem, anywhere from 7-10.
And
Brad Fridel signed with Spurs.
There is no way Dunne is one of the top defenders in the premiership imo! haha. And to be a little mischievous..........Johnson isn't in the prem any more >.>
I would also say that Luiz has a little bit to go before he totally convinces me of his defensive ability.
Richard Dunne is easily in the top ten! Look at his OPTA stats for last season!
Apparently United are buying Ashley Young this season. Looks like Fergie kept his promise to Rooney
Quote from: M.D.K. on June 09, 2011, 02:20:57 AM
Richard Dunne is easily in the top ten! Look at his OPTA stats for last season!
You know what they say about stats :P
There is nothing appealing about joining Arsenal. Bunch of cunts and their own Captain has wanted to leave the last 2-3 seasons.
Jones, I think that's a slight bit pricey for him, but compared to Henderson its funny. Sunderland are in for Gibson, Brown and O'Shea for anyone interested in the previously made statement about 3 United players by Blade. Gibson is prone to not finishing well, Brown has been on the outs for 2 seasons now and O'Shea...well...I think we got enough coming through the system not to worry about him.
I couldn't give a fuck about Ashley Young...however, Shinji Kagawa I am interested in and we have been heavily linked with him. There was also an alert we were tracking Romelu Lukaku as well who sooner rather than later is going to have to move somewhere big.
Kagawa has a rumored 10-12 mil price tag. Excellent work from Dortmund, bought him for 300,000 last summer.
the best keeper in the world, Manuel Neuer transferred from Shalke to Bayern.
Bayern is going to be a serious threat next season.
Quote from: Cory on June 11, 2011, 10:40:29 PM
the best keeper in the world, Manuel Neuer transferred from Shalke to Bayern.
Bayern is going to be a serious threat next season.
Yeah he was terrific against United...best keeper in the world my arse.
I really hope that wasnt sarcastic, he played amazing against United.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMaf9wqm4U&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VMaf9wqm4U&feature=fvst)
He was the best keeper in the Bundislegia on a shit team, and no other keeper played better last season. Keepers played like trash in the prem, no one could hold a clean sheet for more than 2-3 games.
So he was great for one game and he was a dolphin in a piss-puddle? That doesn't make him the best keeper in the world, that just means the strikers are shitter in that league than they are in other leagues.
Quote from: Cory on June 12, 2011, 01:55:23 PM
I really hope that wasnt sarcastic, he played amazing against United.
Lol there wasn't anything remotely sarcastic in that post my friend. I said 'my arse' implying he is not the best goal keeper in the world. He was terrible against United.
gotta love English bias. Whatever, not even gonna start this argument, but id like to hear how Van Der Sar is the best keeper, or who you think is? If its anyone in the Prem your insane, goalies were trash this season. Joe Hart was probably the best out of the lot and hes a step or two behind Neuer. And I mean those saves were terrible v/s United, I think your age is starting to affect your sight. Even Man U Great Peter Schmeichael said Neuer is the best keeper in the world:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/04/27/2460864/manuel-neuer-is-probably-the-best-goalkeeper-in-the-world-former- (http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/04/27/2460864/manuel-neuer-is-probably-the-best-goalkeeper-in-the-world-former-)
Transfers:
Ruud Van Nisterlroy left Hamberg for Malaga back in Spain
Rafinha from Genoa to Bayern
Pirlo from Milan to Juventus
I'm assuming this thread might deal with managers too. Cause it looks like:
McLaren to Forest
Davies to Blues
McLeish to Villa
At least they are now the favourites iirc
Interesting appointments. But why the fuck the Forest board decided to get rid of Davies...*shakes head*
Quote from: Cory on June 12, 2011, 09:12:40 PM
gotta love English bias. Whatever, not even gonna start this argument, but id like to hear how Van Der Sar is the best keeper, or who you think is? If its anyone in the Prem your insane, goalies were trash this season. Joe Hart was probably the best out of the lot and hes a step or two behind Neuer. And I mean those saves were terrible v/s United, I think your age is starting to affect your sight. Even Man U Great Peter Schmeichael said Neuer is the best keeper in the world:
http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/04/27/2460864/manuel-neuer-is-probably-the-best-goalkeeper-in-the-world-former- (http://www.goal.com/en/news/15/germany/2011/04/27/2460864/manuel-neuer-is-probably-the-best-goalkeeper-in-the-world-former-)
Transfers:
Ruud Van Nisterlroy left Hamberg for Malaga back in Spain
Rafinha from Genoa to Bayern
Pirlo from Milan to Juventus
First off don't be a twat mate. It has nothing to do with English bias what-so-ever. How many games have you actually watched this season involving this keeper? 2 maybe 3?
He plays in goal in a decent league, but not one of the top three in Europe by a long stretch and he was fucking horrendous against United.
Actually, I must have watched a dozen or so games, add a few for the champions league, here in Canada we get 3-4 German league games a week on the Fox Sports Channel, and he's almost always plays brilliantly. I cant think of a better keeper as of now in the world today. If you consider career wise, guys like Buffon/Casillas/Van Der Sar/Reina but they all didn't play particularity well last season, or at least up to their super star standards.
I'd say last season was all about the younger keepers. Neuer/Lloris(Lyon)/De Gea/Steklenberg(Ajax)/Hart were undoubtedly tops, Valdes for Barca played well, but with that team in front of him im sure John O'Shea in nets could rack up clean sheets.
So you are basing the best goal keeper in the world argument on circa 12 games. Now I know where you get your greatest player of all time argument with Messi. What did he do score you three goals in fifa soccer?
If you did watch that much German football you would know standard wise it's nowhere near the likes of Spain, England and Italy in terms of quality. So that's like picking out a player who plays for Hearts as the third best team in Scotland and saying 'oh cause he's really good in Scotland' where only a couple of teams rule the roost...that makes him the best goal keeper in the world. I don't doubt he is a decent keeper, but he wasn't the best in the world and isn't the best in the world and I think you need your eyes testing against United they conceeded 6 goals over 2 legs and if memory serves me correct he was at fault for at least 2 of the goals in the second leg.
I am not going to clutter up this thread with more arguments on the matter seeing as we are suppose to be talking about transfers not your edited highlights of FOX SPORTS SOCCER MULTIBALL hosted by Chip Yallop or something.
As I said before, Bundaslegia is a shite league. Any no-name Almunia could be a top goalkeeper in that league because there is such a low quality.
And the best keeper in the world right now? Any one of Lloris, Valdes, Casillas or Hart.
Back to the transfers,
Neil Danns looks to be signing for Rangers
Darren Ambrose probably going to QPR
Nathanial Clyne to Ajax, possible.
Rob Earnshaw to join Palace on a free transfer as well as Jordan Rhodes from Huddersfield for 1 mil. Much better than the 2 million price tag which was on James Vaughan.
Why would Earnshaw go to Palace? He's wanted by many clubs the rumour mill says and I'm pretty sure Forest still want to keep him (they fucking better). Surely at his age he wants another crack at the prem so will go for a team pushing for the top end of the championship at the least?
Well apparently he's at Selhurst today ironing out details.
Who are you to say Palace aren't going to be a team pushing for the top end of the championship next season? The transfer targets they're looking at seriously suggests they're going to push for it.
And Billy Davies wanted another season at forest, but did he get it? No
Danny Graham from Watford to Swansea
Steve Morrision from Millwall to Norwich
Two teams taking good Championship talent to try and help them in the Prem.
Miroslav Klose from Bayern to Lazio
Arsenal agree to terms with Lille winger Gervinho (largest forehead of all time) for around 12 million.
Hopefully this means we can get rid of that sack of shit Bendter.
also:
Kevin Nolan from Newcastle to West Ham, which makes no sence what so ever. He had a pretty good season in the Prem, and leaves for a Championship team.
Apparently there is a lot of tension between the Newcastle board and players, i.e. Mike Ashley's a cunt. Nolan wanted a longer contract, they wouldn't offer it him so he looked elsewhere and chose a club that'll meet his wage demands, it's also managed by Sam Allardyce who he has a strong relationship with, and it won't be as physically taxing as the Premiership. Moving from the shit hole that is Geordie land to London probably seemed quite tempting as well.
If Gervinho goes to Arsenal, they have to be one of the worst teams for players & their hairstyles. Good player though, from the little I've seen of him.
thing is, Fulham were looking into him but he still chose the championship. SMH
Im surprised no one has latched onto relagated talent yet.
I'm sure Charlie Adam, Scott Parker, Barry Fergusen, Roger Johnson, Cameron Jerome and maybe Sebastian Larsson will get picked up, especially Adam and Parker.
Larsson going Sunderland. They look to have beaten Fulham to the signature.
Quote from: Cory on June 16, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
Im surprised no one has latched onto relagated talent yet.
I'm sure Charlie Adam, Scott Parker, Barry Fergusen, Roger Johnson, Cameron Jerome and maybe Sebastian Larsson will get picked up, especially Adam and Parker.
Let's hope for McLeish's sake he doesn't bring anyone across the otherside of the Brum lol.
Adam is pretty much a synch for the scouse cunts.
Jeremy Toulalan from Lyon to Malaga
Dembe Ba from West Ham to Newcastle (Free)
Adel Taarabt is rumoured to be on the way out of QPR, if he goes QPR are beyond fucked.
This guys brilliant.
Quote from: Cory on June 19, 2011, 12:22:28 AM
Adel Taarabt is rumoured to be on the way out of QPR, if he goes QPR are beyond fucked.
This guys brilliant overrated.
Fixed.
I saw him in a few full matches as well as the highlights a lot of people base their opinions on. He's not actually that hard to snuff out. If some championship teams can do it he's going to be even less effective in the premiership.
Quote from: Cory on June 19, 2011, 12:22:28 AM
Adel Taarabt is rumoured to be on the way out of QPR, if he goes QPR are beyond fucked.
This guys brilliant the best player they had in the Championship.
They have money...they will probably use it as some stage.
Cory I find myself consistently using the phrase "dolphin in a tear drop" with you?
Thing is Cory, you think teams are built around one player because they receive more praise. QPR didn't get promoted solely because of Adel Taraabt.
I recall reading in an interview with Taraabt that he was only planning on moving from QPR this season when a Champions League team came in for him. Keep dreaming fella.
Fulham transfer rumour for MDK - 'Fulham have made a bid for Aberdeen starlet Fraser Fyvie' ???
Quote from: M.D.K. on June 19, 2011, 10:16:23 AM
Thing is Cory, you think teams are built around one player because they receive more praise. QPR didn't get promoted solely because of Adel Taraabt.
Obviously, its a team of 11 players, but 3rd in scoring and 1st in assists last season would be a crucial loss to your team. He's also their captain. It'd be like Blackpool losing Charlie Adam before last season, without Adam Blackpool wouldn't have put up nearly as good of fight as they did. I've never understood why QPR isn't a Man City, don't they have like the second richest owner in all of football? Im not saying a Championship team will be getting Tevez and Berbatov, but surly you can hold on your MVP of the last season.
Like they seem like they'd have the funds to pick apart West Ham and Birmingham players if they wanted, or try and land someone in a lower division, like Landon Donovan here in the MLS. The guy was in brilliant form for Everton before his loan was up.
Al Fayed is as rich as QPR and won't dip his hand too deep as he wants to club to be breaking even. Those in charge of QPR and FFC have business sense instead of spunking a lot of money for little reward.
And yeah, we seem to be buying kids to build for the future.
Despite a decent spell with Everton on loan as you say Donovan's problem here is he has been viewed as a bit of a "light weight" and also a complete bust when he was in Germany, constantly coming back to the USA to play. I think that his reputation is he hasn't wanted to play in Europe and would rather be 'Mr. MLS' than a bit part player over here.
Plus I don't think his comments on Beckham in the past have ever been totally forgotten, when he said them I was pretty much like 'fuck off you twat with one of the gayest names ever'
As for Ranger's and their spending MDK's right...they just don't want to jizz it up the wall and I have always felt in QPR's case what goes on in the ivory tower always seems a little shady at the best of times.
Personally I see this being a more cautious transfer summer in terms of the Premiership teams.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/06/20/2540807/if-arsenal-ask-for-more-than-40m-cesc-fabregas-will-not (http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/06/20/2540807/if-arsenal-ask-for-more-than-40m-cesc-fabregas-will-not)
According to this, no more than 40 mill for Fabregas. I think after that backheal in the champions league to cost Arsenal's lead was an inside job, get him out of here. He's been one of my favourite players, but its clear that he doesn't even wanna play for Arsenal on the field anymore.
With that 40 mill Arsenal need to bring in defenders or a bull to play in the middle of the park.....oh yeah, and a goalie.
Quote from: Cory on June 20, 2011, 09:50:32 PM
I think after that backheal in the champions league to cost Arsenal's lead was an inside job, get him out of here.
I dont like Cesc, but an inside job...come on...
Championship is the minor leagues compared to the Prem. Season before last Darren Ambrose scored something like 23 goals for us from midfield and countless assists but he had proven with 2 or 3 different premiership teams that he simply wasn't good enough for that league...
O'Hara completes his £5m move to Wolves having been on loan there at the back end of last season.
Wolves seem to be spending a bit more money now and I think have a chance to really push up towards mid-table next season--which would be what they are aiming for I would have thought.
They're building a 40,000 seater stadium so I would hope that they are pushing for mid table. £5m is too much for O'Hara. He only plays well when he's in a good mood and Wolves have plenty of equally mediocre players in that position. They should have added that money to the pot for defenders.
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on June 21, 2011, 03:46:36 AM
I dont like Cesc, but an inside job...come on...
That was a joke man, but in all seriousness, he played like he didn't want to be at Arsenal anymore, for as big a fan I am, Nasri can fill the majority of his void (if we can hold onto him, I've heard rumours Ferg wants him to replace Scholes when his contracts up) and we can use the money to bring in some giants hopefully.
Get a Samba from Blackburn, or anyone who is over 6'2" and/or 170lbs (and not Brazil Ronaldo)
Chelsea sign Villas-Boas to a contract, he had a great year with Porto wining UEFA Cup, litterally the same story Mourinho had coming to Chelsea, and Mourinho is arguably the best manager in the game. But due to my lack of hatred of the Blues, I hope he fails miserably.
Quote from: Cory on June 22, 2011, 04:07:44 PM
Mourinho is arguably the best manager in the game
FAIL(http://sportblog.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/alex-ferguson1.jpg)
Your lack of hatred?
Also,
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King Kenny is not amused by your "best manager in the game" statement.
Ashley Young signs five-year contract with Manchester United for an undisclosed fee.
I heard it was for around £14 million
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on June 23, 2011, 05:05:05 AM
FAIL
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ARGUBLY....which means there are others that are just as good/room for debate.
I'd never say Mourinho is better than Fergie, because Sir Alex is one of the greatest all time. I'd say Mourinho/Fergie/Hiddink/Guardiola(Barca) are the tops in the game today.
Also:
Scott Carson from West Brom to Bursapour in Turkey
Adrian Mutu from Fiorentina to Cesenia
Quote from: Cory on June 23, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
ARGUBLY....which means there are others that are just as good/room for debate.
I'd never say Mourinho is better than Fergie, because Sir Alex is one of the greatest all time. I'd say Mourinho/Fergie/Hiddink/Guardiola(Barca) are the tops in the game today.
There is no debate in the slightest hence the fail...
Anyway confirmed that United have signed Ashley Young, still not sure about this one to be honest, I think he is overrated.
Rumours have Arsenal landing Blackburn defender Christopher Samba within the next 2 weeks, and for once, a player that actually makes sence. He'd be a legit defender to put next to Vermaelen. They should get him around 10 mill, but what worries me is that after Rovers got rid of Phil Jones, do they have the depth to get rid of their other center back
The Arse won't get Samba for £10m. Blackburn have no reason to sell after losing Jones so a fee for Samba will be a lot closer to £15m (plus I heard that Spurs were looking at him as well which will put the price up).
I would also like to agree with Ian about managers and Ashley Young. Sir Alex is by far the best manager in the world. You can come back with some of those other names when they have dominated their leagues for as long as he has. Also, getting crap international teams running around a bit does not make you a great manager (Hiddink). As for Young, he was a waste of money in my opinion and will probably just get used to make up our English quota. Utd have plenty of wingers and attacking players. What we need is two central midfielders (one creative and one holding) so spending £14m on a player who is no better than what we already have seems a bit pointless to me.
Also, Wolves signed Swansea keeper Dorus De Vries on a free transfer on Wednesday.
Again, I never said Sir Alex was better. If I was ranking managers, I'd have Fergie at 1, and Mourinho at 2.
Anyways, why did United buy Young? They are two top wingers in Nani and Valencia, why bring in a 14 million dollar depth guy?
Young played alot of last season behind the striker at Villa, so I'd imagine he's there for that position if Rooney is elsewhere. He's also probably one of the few wingers who can play down both flanks and still have the ability to cut inside and cause problems. That and Fergie will be getting bored of Nani's inconsistency and would like to have someone who would be as much of a threat.
Sunderland have landed a few signings that are basically just waiting to go through; Kieren Westood, Seb Larsson, & Craig Gardner.
Rumours have Liverpool stepping into the bidding war with Spurs and Villa for Blackpools Charlie Adam, around the 10million price tag.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/28/2550838/arsenal-close-in-on-17m-bolton-defender-gary-cahill-as (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/06/28/2550838/arsenal-close-in-on-17m-bolton-defender-gary-cahill-as)
Has Gary Cahill heading to the Gunnars for 17million. Wow.....talk about inflation. Cahill's a great player, but 17 million? I wanted Wegner to spend money but smartly.
I wouldn't pay more than 8-10 for Cahill, anything more stay with Bolton.
Manchester United have confirmed the signing of Atletico Madrid goalkeeper David de Gea for a fee in the region of £18 million.
Great keeper, the guys like 19 and lead the La Liga in clean sheets last season.
Sunderland sign Ispwich Connor Wickham for 8 million.
I donno, I saw a youtube video of this guy and he looked like a monster, like 6'4" and very fast, but people who watch the championship probably know if this guys actually good or not.
He's got talent. Seem him a couple of times at Portman rd and he's got some ability. 8 mill though? English inflation once again
Quote from: Cory on June 29, 2011, 01:22:30 PM
Great keeper, the guys like 19 and lead the La Liga in clean sheets last season.
Stats = Boring
I dont like the fact we have such a young keeper between the sticks.
well it should be SOMEWHAT comforting that the young keeper played a full season, was the best keeper statistically, so he wont be a (hopefully) a flop his first season as he has lots of first team experience in the most attacking league.
I personally hope he does well, and odds say I'll get him for my keeper next year in FANTASY (tip), lol.
You're right thought, Fergie should bring in a decent veteran to have in case De Gea is in a rump/off to a rough start. Brad Friedel would have been an excellent guy to nab up when he was available.
..in other news
Tornston Frings signed with Toronto FC which is huge news here. The guy still has some gas left, and is instantly a top 5 in the MLS behind Henry/Beckham/Donovan/Marquez (not saying too much) but we get to see a legit German National Team starter play on our piss poor team.
Craig Gardner from Birmingham City to Sunderland
Quote from: Cory on June 30, 2011, 11:22:14 PM
Craig Gardner from Birmingham City to Sunderland
Life Long B'ham fan. Elated to sign with B'ham from Villa in 2010, helped them win the Mickey Mouse Cup and would do anything for them...
Except play in the championship lol
And on the Ashley Young Scenario.. Sad to see him go from villa, Downing, Young and Bent would have been awesome this year. But the money was too good to refuse. I just hope it is re invested and not sat on until January when it is too late to do anything
Quote from: Cory on June 29, 2011, 11:14:38 PM
well it should be SOMEWHAT comforting that the young keeper played a full season, was the best keeper statistically, so he wont be a (hopefully) a flop his first season as he has lots of first team experience in the most attacking league.
I personally hope he does well, and odds say I'll get him for my keeper next year in FANTASY (tip), lol.
You're right thought, Fergie should bring in a decent veteran to have in case De Gea is in a rump/off to a rough start. Brad Friedel would have been an excellent guy to nab up when he was available.
I never buy anything into stats when it comes to Keepers especially. United were burned a couple of times post Schmeichel on the likes of Taibi, Bosnich and Barthez...even Tourettes Tim until we settled on the brilliant Van Der Saar.
Jury is out I hope he is a success, but wouldn't be surprised to see Lindegaard or Kuszczak (if he stays but he said he wont) between the sticks.
I heard Kuszczak was on his way to west brom.
De gea is alot of money to sit on the bench, but if Lindegarrd proves better then why not.
I know they sold him last year, but I bet Foster would be a good bet now
lol, dare I say go after Robert Green?
jesus......i can barely say that with a straight face.
Supposedly Gael Clichy has a medical at Man City this weekend, and signing for 9 million.
I dont know WHY arsenal made this move. THEY have NO DEPTH on the backline, so why get rid of a decent wing back? Clichy is up there with the fastest wing back in the league and can man mark very good and can hit a decent cross every now and then, his tackling and mental game is very weak, but for their lack of depth in the back, this move is stupid.
Clichy seems to stuggle to find form at times, but now whose going to take his spot if you dont get a signing? No one.
Quote from: Cory on July 01, 2011, 09:47:24 PMClichy seems to stuggle to find form at times, but now whose going to take his spot if you dont get a signing? No one.
Gibbs
Quote from: Blade on July 01, 2011, 12:50:51 PM
I heard Kuszczak was on his way to west brom.
De gea is alot of money to sit on the bench, but if Lindegarrd proves better then why not.
I know they sold him last year, but I bet Foster would be a good bet now
Neither Foster or Kuszczak are Manchester United quality. I'm personally delighted that we've signed De Gea because he has the potential to be one of the world's best goalkeepers in 2-3 years in my opinion! I'll miss Van Der Sar though, a lot.
Quote from: Jerry McClean on July 02, 2011, 10:36:57 AM
Gibbs
But Gibbs barely has any first team experience, if they want a legit run at any silverwear next season they need expierence. Enough "playing the young players" it hasnt worked in like 5 years.
Did they sell Armand Traore or just loan him to Juventus last season?
Either way, he's been playing youngsters for the last five years why would he change? If Wenger and Arsenal were truly motivated by winning trophies and not just making themselves a financially solid, profit turning club, they'd be investing a lot more in players that can have an immediate impact on their squad and their success in competitions.
It'll be interesting to see how De Gea performs, he has the talent, but there will a lot more pressure on him playing for United and justifying his fee. I'm thinking Man Utd will need Vidic & Ferdinand fit for most of next season, VDS's expereince will of had a huge impact on the organisation of Uniteds defense, and do we even known if De Gea can speak English? Let alone command a box full of some the best defenders in the world. It'll be interesting, hopefully it doesn't affect his chances with the national team considering what happened to Reina.
Meanwhile in Burnley transfer news...
Everyone seems to be linked in Samir Nasri lately, and WHEN Fabregas leaves, if we can't hold onto Nasri to play/fill the void that Fab leaves, we're fucked for real.
Gibbs is a logical choice and Clichy is fucking overrated anyways. I can see him going well for the Gunners this season and another example of City pissing money away.
Scott Carson left West Brom for Bursapour in Turkey for 2 mill
CLichy gone Man City for 8 mill
al habsi to wigan for 4mill
I keep wishing that everyday I look at goal.com I see
"Arsenal sign Scott Parker for 8-10 Million" or "Arsenal sign a legit defender over 6'2 " or "Arsenal sign ______ keeper for 10 mill+"
.......it wont happen, it never happens. I'm just about ready to find a new team to cheer for. Looking at a random list, LETS GO MK DONS!
Quote from: Cory on July 04, 2011, 04:14:03 PM
I'm just about ready to find a new team to cheer for.
Although I think you were being sarcastic mate...that is what seperates real football fans from soccer fans :)
And now they are looking at Dzeko and the fella from Wolves
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on July 05, 2011, 03:37:20 PM
Although I think you were being sarcastic mate...that is what seperates real football fans from soccer fans :)
Yeah it was sarcastic, but sometimes I really want to. Its such a shit show, but like every year for the past 6 seasons I'll keep being optimistic up until the window closes. Lets go for another painfull 3 months
I hope United get Sneidjer so Nasri has a chance of staying.
Quote from: Cory on July 05, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
I hope United get Sneidjer so Nasri has a chance of staying.
As a United fan, I hope for this too. Nasri would be a good signing for us, but I'd much prefer Wesley.
Charlie Adam to Liverpool for around 7million, yet nothing is official YET
I am not sure how I see this transfer...I think he could end up getting lost in the shuffle at the scum.
It doesnt make sence to me.
They have Gerrard who still have some years left and hes bascially a better version of Charlie Adam. When Gerrards ready to hang up the boots, Adam will be 31-32.
They also have Raul Meriles who was arguably their best player last season. I dont know, doesnt make too much sence and I agree with Ian
Meriles has been rumoured to be sold so they can get money for Stuart Downing and a few others.
Wes "Duracell" Brown has signed for Sunderland...around a million
You wont be missed and take O'Shea with you
(http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/18020-duracell.jpg)
O'Shea has passed his medical with Sunderland so looks like he will be, David Vaughan looks like he'll be joining Sunderland too, which will make it 8 signings so far for them.
Charlie Adam as passed his medical too, and looks to set to join Liverpool along with Roma keeper Doni. Two midfielders signed for Pool this summer... tis wierd, since that was the only part of their team that actually had any depth.
Man City have signed a 20 year old Montenegrin called Stefan Savic, never heard of him myself, but apparently he's well thought of and is already in the Montenegro national side.
Shame to see John and Wes leaving the club after all this time, they've been great servants for us over the years and I'll miss them. With that said, times change and things move on, and obviously the genius has a plan for rebuilding this team one more time before he steps out of the dugout at Old Trafford. Every team needs a John O'Shea, someone who can fill in all around the defense and in midfield where needed and do a solid job, and in Phil Jones I think we've found a new one.
Most importantly John, thanks for this ...
The moment that ball hit the net we just knew the title was finally coming back home. Mourinhoooooooo, are you listenin'? hah!
Random sidenote: Anyone else find that sometimes in the latter half of the season there's one goal where you know that that's the decisive moment in the title run even when its 2 months or so before the end? O'Shea against Liverpool in 07, Ronaldo's late strike at Derby away in 08, Macheda's last-gasp stunner in 09, Drogba's offside goal at OT last year, and Rooney's pen against West Ham at Upton Park this very year all stick out in my mind.
When I was at the Manchester United Football School, we went to their training ground and watched the guys practice. Everyone after came to sign autographs and after that cunt Wayne Rooney was the only one to ignore us all and go back into the facility Rio/Tim Howard/Dwight Yorke/Ronaldo (moral of the story, Rooneys a much bigger cunt than Christiano Ronaldo) stuck around to watch us practice for fifteen minutes or so. Then when we were leaving John O'Shea came out with a trainer or two and we got to do a Q&A with him and a few teammates and myself got to have a chat with him when we were doing team photos.
He might have scored more own goals then goals for United, but he was a down to earth guy and would play wherever Fergie needed him. He's a good buy for a team like Sunderland that needs depth in the backline.
Fulham have had a bid for John Arne Riise accepted by Roma. This will see both Riise bros at Fulham!
Riise has always been an exciting player to watch, he's got great pace and one of the best long shots in the game.
Manchester City submitted a 35 million bid for Althetico Madrids Sergio Aguero.
What in gods green earth are they thinking? The guys like 5'6" Theres no way he'll be able to compete at a 35 million dollar level against defenders like Hageland/Vidic/Fellani.
I've never understood the reasoning of getting these expensive petite spanish/south american strikers and bring them to the biggest and strongest league in the world.
I don't get the bid but small strikers can sometimes be effective with the right supply. He won't get it at City though. I could see him at Liverpool or even Arsenal but not City...
Meanwhile along with all the releases at Craven COttage, Fulham gave away Kamara to... Eskisehirspor
Me neither.
Quote from: Cory on July 07, 2011, 01:55:23 PM
Manchester City submitted a 35 million bid for Althetico Madrids Sergio Aguero.
What in gods green earth are they thinking? The guys like 5'6" Theres no way he'll be able to compete at a 35 million dollar level against defenders like Hageland/Vidic/Fellani.
I've never understood the reasoning of getting these expensive petite spanish/south american strikers and bring them to the biggest and strongest league in the world.
He's a central midfielder. :-\
And who's to say that small spanish/south american guys can't play at a top level against the top premiership teams? Aguero is 5'7'' ... What about that toxic dwarf Lionel Messi, the guy who's pretty much had his way with Arsenal, Chelsea and United in recent seasons in the Champions League. How about 5'7'' David Silva who at times has been the only player in City's superexpensive squad to show any attacking flair? How about 5'8'' Javier Hernandez who scored 20+ goals in his first season in English football?
Top quality talent will always prevail over strength in the Premier League. Yes, it's a strong league but a lot of these smaller guys can use that to their advantage. Notice how many free-kicks, penalties and red cards are won by "smaller" guys in English football.
Quote from: Cory on July 07, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
When I was at the Manchester United Football School, we went to their training ground and watched the guys practice. Everyone after came to sign autographs and after that cunt Wayne Rooney was the only one to ignore us all and go back into the facility Rio/Tim Howard/Dwight Yorke/Ronaldo (moral of the story, Rooneys a much bigger cunt than Christiano Ronaldo) stuck around to watch us practice for fifteen minutes or so. Then when we were leaving John O'Shea came out with a trainer or two and we got to do a Q&A with him and a few teammates and myself got to have a chat with him when we were doing team photos.
He might have scored more own goals then goals for United, but he was a down to earth guy and would play wherever Fergie needed him. He's a good buy for a team like Sunderland that needs depth in the backline.
I take it that all of that spanned across different years right? Because they were never all in the same team.
Sergio Aguero could be awesome in any team. Fuck being Small, tell that to David Silva.
Wes Brown and O'shea Cost UTD what? Nothing! Fuck, its good that they have had the careers they have had, and still utd cash in. Especially at their age, shows where utd are going
Quote from: Blade on July 07, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
I take it that all of that spanned across different years right? Because they were never all in the same team.
It was in 05-06 Now that I think about it, it wasn't Yorke, it was uhhh.....Saha. Yeah. he got an injury at the end of the session and couldnt play against Sunderland the next day (0-0 draw, really sucked I didnt get to experience the atmosphere after a goal). We saw Dwight Yorke at the Brittannia Stadium training, and looking on Wikipedia he played in Australia that season.
Pardon my racism confusing the two.
Robert Earnshaw from Forrest to Cardiff
Kiko from Hercules to Barcelona
Quote from: Cory on July 07, 2011, 01:55:23 PM
Manchester City submitted a 35 million bid for Althetico Madrids Sergio Aguero.
What in gods green earth are they thinking? The guys like 5'6" Theres no way he'll be able to compete at a 35 million dollar level against defenders like Hageland/Vidic/Fellani.
I've never understood the reasoning of getting these expensive petite spanish/south american strikers and bring them to the biggest and strongest league in the world.
Presumably he's seen as the replacement for Tevez if he's off to Spain. And I'm sure he will be picked for his ability on the ground not in the air haha
According to Goal.com
Arsenal accepted Man City's 22 Million bid for Nasri
....say it aint so.
Quote from: Cory on July 07, 2011, 01:49:24 PM
When I was at the Manchester United Football School, we went to their training ground and watched the guys practice. Everyone after came to sign autographs and after that cunt Wayne Rooney was the only one to ignore us all and go back into the facility Rio/Tim Howard/Dwight Yorke/Ronaldo (moral of the story, Rooneys a much bigger cunt than Christiano Ronaldo) stuck around to watch us practice for fifteen minutes or so. Then when we were leaving John O'Shea came out with a trainer or two and we got to do a Q&A with him and a few teammates and myself got to have a chat with him when we were doing team photos.
He might have scored more own goals then goals for United, but he was a down to earth guy and would play wherever Fergie needed him. He's a good buy for a team like Sunderland that needs depth in the backline.
He was probably trying to bum the lot of you.
Fulham have signed Smogoyi - a Hungarian 2nd division GK - as a deputy to Schwarzer as it looks like we are loaning out Stockdale. We have signed him because Jol promised that he would when he was at Ajax. Hmm...
Plus as long at John Arne Riise passes his medical, we have him too.
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on July 09, 2011, 03:32:42 AM
He was probably trying to bum the lot of you.
Funny thing was after the training session was over and the players got in their 100,000k + cars and were met by probably twenty or so fans for autographs, o'Shea got in a moderately priced sedan and the fans left as soon as they looked into the windshield.
Kevin Phillips from Birmingham to Blackpool (Free Transfer)
Lee Bowyer from Birmingham to Ipswich (Free)
Gervinho from Lille to Arsenal (10.6 mill)
Gokhan Inler from Udinese to Napoli
Jonathan Woodgate from Spurs to Stoke (Free)
Arsenal is also heavily linked with Per Mertersaker over Gary Cahill.
THANK FUCK. Cahill isnt worth any more than 6-8 million, and Mertersaker is not only 6'6", hes a starter on the german national team and is arguably their best defender at times. He would be a brilliant pick up, and Mertersakers come out and said he wants to move to the Premier League.
So all this means is Arsenal will sign Titus Bramble out of the blue because he has good "value" according to Wenger
Mertersaker's main problem is that he runs in slow motion lol. You'll need a fast defender alongside him.
Can't remember if it's been mentioned yet but Earnshaw chose to go back to Cardiff.
Also seems like Carlton Cole is going to Stoke.
Few signings made official today.
Jay Bothroyd -> QPR
Roger Johnson -> Wolves
Jon Arn Riise -> Fulham
Paul Konchesky -> Leicester
and 18 year old Tranmere striker Dale Jennings has signed for Bayern Munich. Will be interesting to see how that pans out in years to come.
Breaking news: Liverpool agree fee with Aston Villa for Stewart Downing.
Villa...really going to struggle next year. They have some good young players coming through, and still have Bent, but that's now a VERY thin squad. I heard a rumour they might try and replace him with Bellamy which is a good, although short term signing. Young gone, Downing going, GK still needing to be sorted and an erratic centre back pairing. Their 6th place finishes really seem a long way off now.
As for Liverpool. He should suit Carroll perfectly tbh with his crossing skill. I'm really interested to see how Liverpool fare next season with their changes.
Yeah I've seen this, I think the fee is around £20mil. Kinda surprising to see Liverpool actually strengthening their team, rather than spending over-inflated prices for players that are not actually needed. If he joins for said fee it'll take their spending to around the £50mil mark, and given what they spent in January, it seems like they're going to go the route of the Man City's and Chelsea's and just buy themselves a new team. Hopefully they can see the mistakes they made under Rafa and actually put some funding into their player development and bringing some decent players through their youth system.
Kind of like Aston Villa. They are starting to get a little thin with their squad, but I'm pretty sure they will be signing Shay Given soon so that is one position covered. They have been linked heavily with N'Zogbia as a replacement for Young for a while, so that looks like it might go through. The likes Albrighton and Bannan showed they have talent, and Agbonglahor is a good player. Personally I think they're attack will be along the lines:
Bent/Agbonglahor
N'Zogbia/Bannan -- Ireland -- Albrighton/Agbonglahor
I do agree that they need another centreback, Collins and Dunne are really inconsistent. I'm surprised that McLeish isn't raiding his former club, Johnson & Dann are great defenders, with Johnson at Wolves I could see Dann joining.
In other news, Keiron Dyer must've sold his soul because he has somehow found himself back in the Premier League and earning a wage. He joined QPR on a free.
Blues and Villa have only just agreed the fee for Eck. Not sure how soon they'll be doing transfers between each other following how messy that was lol
I completely disagree I think Liverpool have made only one good signing in the last 6 months and thats Suarez.
I think Carroll is overrated to be honest and is a poor man's Duncan Ferguson with an inflated price tag. I think Stuart Downing is incredibly overrated as well. I am still somewhat perplexed with us signing Ashley Young let alone Liverpool signing Downing as well.
Charlie Adam I think is going to get lost in the shuffle and Jordan Henderson...see over priced.
Liverpool really need to do something at Centreback in my opinion. Carragher is an old fart and they need to start bringing someone else as they have some promising fullbacks.
I dont get why they are throwing so much into their midfield. You now have about 4-5 natural centre midfielders as well as a couple of guys like Kuyt and Downing that will play out on the wing so its less likely your going to play more than two in the middle of the park.
I said this a season ago, this guy can throw all the money he wants at Liverpool football club, but they need to be winning to make it an investment. I dont see them winning off the basis of these signings. So for any pubeless, liverpool fans who sound like Hornswoggle's long lost cousin who said they would never sell Torres and did about two weeks later...your still going nowhere fast.
P.S. John O'Shea does not drive a sedan...
Am I the only one being driven insane by the Sneijder saga? Rumours from those at the club that he's agreed to terms and will be unveiled by Monday, despite Internazionale saying he's not for sale and Ferguson denying United have made any offers. We always see this though, the teams trying to hide the fact something's going on until the deal is finalised. David Gill is in Milan as I speak. I really hope we sign him and get this deal done as soon as possible, I can't take it anymore.
On a sidenote, United new boy Ashley Young played 65 minutes against NE Revolution last night in Boston and had a very good debut. He and Nani switched wings at one point and it confused the defenders into falling apart, he and Fabio linked up nicely down the left and his crossing was top notch at times. Plus we seem to have someone at last who can take corners and clear the first defender!
Jerome Boetang from Man City to Bayern.....the guys a great talent, just got lost in the shuffle at Man City.
Keiran Dyer from West Ham to QPR
Djbrill Cisse from Panathiankos to Lazio
Sir Ian Trumps has been transfered from Bibs on a Monday Night to Non Bibs...the move has delighted the Non Bibs as they now have a presence up front of a 6'4 and a bit bully with a gobby mouth on him. Bibs fans have already been working on songs like 'fuck you, you fat bastard' when Trumps lines up for the Non Bibs in their never ending Bibs vs Non Bibs derby every Monday.
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on July 14, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
Sir Ian Trumps has been transfered from Bibs on a Monday Night to Non Bibs...the move has delighted the Non Bibs as they now have a presence up front of a 6'4 and a bit bully with a gobby mouth on him. Bibs fans have already been working on songs like 'fuck you, you fat bastard' when Trumps lines up for the Non Bibs in their never ending Bibs vs Non Bibs derby every Monday.
Shit.. I knew that would happen at some point. Wish i had had a cheeky bet....
Quote from: The Rev on July 14, 2011, 11:11:17 AM
On a sidenote, United new boy Ashley Young played 65 minutes against NE Revolution last night in Boston and had a very good debut. He and Nani switched wings at one point and it confused the defenders into falling apart, he and Fabio linked up nicely down the left and his crossing was top notch at times. Plus we seem to have someone at last who can take corners and clear the first defender!
Are you high? Ashley Young and corners? He fell over the corner flag every time he attempted to take one at Villa. But as for switching wings and confusing people, yeah he can do that when he isn't sulking and standing on the half way line complaining that his shoe lace is undone
Adam Jones has been named captain of pharmAC Milan. Ahead of their interdepartmental tournament on 30th july
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on July 14, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
Sir Ian Trumps has been transfered from Bibs on a Monday Night to Non Bibs...the move has delighted the Non Bibs as they now have a presence up front of a 6'4 and a bit bully with a gobby mouth on him. Bibs fans have already been working on songs like 'fuck you, you fat bastard' when Trumps lines up for the Non Bibs in their never ending Bibs vs Non Bibs derby every Monday.
Non Bibs are fantastic. I remember playing them in my first season after I'd transfered from Shirts to Skins... that was before the team folded due to an outbreak of beer belly of course
Quote from: Bill-E Mitchell on July 14, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
Sir Ian Trumps has been transfered from Bibs on a Monday Night to Non Bibs...the move has delighted the Non Bibs as they now have a presence up front of a 6'4 and a bit bully with a gobby mouth on him. Bibs fans have already been working on songs like 'fuck you, you fat bastard' when Trumps lines up for the Non Bibs in their never ending Bibs vs Non Bibs derby every Monday.
You'll need to watch out for the Bibs' ultras. I've heard they can get pretty serious and with you moving to their rivals you could be in for some serious abuse. Maybe even a pigs head.
It was quite the inflated fee as well...half a pint and two packets of pork scratchings.
ahahahahaha, not too much one this forum legit makes me laugh.
Nicely played Mr. Monks
Shay Given from Man City to Villa, great replacement for Friedel
Greening to Forest
Looks like Routledge to Swansea
and Joel Campbell to Arsenal
Glad Forest have finally signed someone not on a free. And getting Moussi resigned is good. Shame we'll most likely be missing out on Routledge though.
I saw a bit of Joel Campbell in the Copa America. Incredibly lively player who seemed to be playing out wide on the left but was hugely quick, didn't stop hassling defenders, and very composed in the attacking third. I know it's just a couple of matches, but he showed great promise. Just under £1 million seems like an incredible bargain.
And Given is a great signing for Villa. I think they've really been doing some good bits of business this year. Young was going to go anyway, but they got big money. Given is an improvement. And Downing they sold for huge money, and might be getting an equal replacement for half price. If they take Scott Dann from Blues to improve their defence they could do well again next year.
Quote from: Blade on July 14, 2011, 03:28:52 PM
Are you high? Ashley Young and corners? He fell over the corner flag every time he attempted to take one at Villa. But as for switching wings and confusing people, yeah he can do that when he isn't sulking and standing on the half way line complaining that his shoe lace is undone
Did you actually watch the game? ???
Quote from: The Rev on July 19, 2011, 08:29:03 AM
Did you actually watch the game? ???
He was talking about how Young played for Villa last season.
Jumped the gun on Campbell. Apparently he hasn't agreed personal terms >_>
Quote from: Jerry McClean on July 19, 2011, 06:00:26 PM
Jumped the gun on Campbell. Apparently he hasn't agreed personal terms >_>
Ive been watching the Copa and Campbell is a unreal steal at 1 million. I doubt hell ever see any first team action, but the guy is a workhorse for Costa Rico and only 19.
Routledge is the biggest waste of money ever. Since he left Palace he has done nothing of note, except for be there (or there abouts) last season for QPR.
He pissed his own career down the bog when he left us
Not that I like the guy, or think he is good enough for a Premiership club. But, he has been a part of the team that won the Championship two seasons in a row. And he played a pretty big part for QPR towards the end, bagging them a few goals and offering assists. If Swansea sign him, he'll flop just like he has with every Premier League club he has been at. But I think he deserves some credit for his performances in the Championship.
In Burnley news, we've brought in a player!!! After releasing and selling almost half of our first team, we've brought in Ben Mee on loan. Shame our defense is an area of the team that didn't need strengthening, in my eyes, but hey! It's a signing, gotta be happy with us finally getting involved in the market.
Jo from Man City to Internacional
Denilson Loaned from Arsenal to Sao Paulo
Thank god hes not on the roster this season. Denilson is the worst player not named Almunia for the Gunners.
Quote from: Rob on July 20, 2011, 03:32:29 AM
Routledge is the biggest waste of money ever. Since he left Palace he has done nothing of note, except for be there (or there abouts) last season for QPR.
He pissed his own career down the bog when he left us
I mentioned this to you before mate. Did you ever catch that series on T4 about the Palace youth team? Routledge was on it I remember for a fact along with some Thai international kid. I have a feeling Moses was also on it, but could be wrong.
Probably quite a bit before Moses' time, Routledge is about 6 years older
Quote from: Jerry McClean on July 19, 2011, 03:13:36 PM
He was talking about how Young played for Villa last season.
Well he doesn't play for Villa anymore. Going off what I've seen him do for United in his two performances so far he looks like he fits in very well to the way United play, and he's excellent and crosses and corners. He must've improved recently!
Marcel Gecov to Fulham
+ He was mint in the U21s for Czech Republic
- He's another ginger...
Alexi Sanchez from Udinese to Barca for 37.5 million. Wow......stupid spending here
Quote from: The Rev on July 21, 2011, 11:07:00 AM
Well he doesn't play for Villa anymore. Going off what I've seen him do for United in his two performances so far he looks like he fits in very well to the way United play, and he's excellent and crosses and corners. He must've improved recently!
Ashley Young can go fuck himself.
He is a useless Twat who is selfish and fucking falls over the corner flag and sulks because people will not give him the ball because he fucking hogs it when you are losing.
UTD are welcome to him. 18M? thank you very much
Quote from: Blade on July 21, 2011, 07:04:47 PM
Ashley Young can go fuck himself.
He is a useless Twat who is selfish and fucking falls over the corner flag and sulks because people will not give him the ball because he fucking hogs it when you are losing.
UTD are welcome to him. 18M? thank you very much
I think he's a quality signing, was surprised by it at first cos I don't think he's as good as Nani or Valencia but he's a good option to have around. He seems to fit in well with our team and he said in the press today that choosing United over Liverpool was a no-brainer so the lad's clearly smart! ;D
Personally, I am not sold on Young yet as I have stated. I don't think he is going to automatically walk into this side and certainly shoudln't. I prefer both Nani and Valencia to him.
Odds say he'll get his chance when Valencia gets hurt at some point next season.
Quote from: Potato Hater on July 22, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Personally, I am not sold on Young yet as I have stated. I don't think he is going to automatically walk into this side and certainly shoudln't. I prefer both Nani and Valencia to him.
I prefer Nani and Valencia as well but Young looks to me at least like he's going to be a good player for us. Nani's future seems to be a bit up in the air, he was excellent for the first half of last season but once Valencia came back from injury; Nani seemed to lose his place in the team entirely. When Rooney plays out on the left in big games, Nani becomes a spare part which is sad. I think United's strongest lineup now looks something like this:
------------------De Gea--------------
---Fabio----Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra---
------------Carrick----Anderson--------
---Valencia------Rooney--------Nani----
---------------Chicharito---------------
I think United could also play Valencia at right back as Fergie did that a few games last season, and have room for Young on the wing. I cant recall if Valencia played well in the backline, I just remember he did play there in the Champions League.
Also to Rev, if Berba stays, how isn't the guy who got the Golden Boot not in the top XI?
Juventus sign Arturo Vidal for 14 million from Bayern Leverkusen.
Sad, I was hoping Arsenal would get their feet wet with this guy, excellent holding midfielder.
Quote from: Cory on July 22, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
I think United could also play Valencia at right back as Fergie did that a few games last season, and have room for Young on the wing. I cant recall if Valencia played well in the backline, I just remember he did play there in the Champions League.
Also to Rev, if Berba stays, how isn't the guy who got the Golden Boot not in the top XI?
He played ok at right back but it seems like a bit of a waste of his abilities to put him there regularly knowing how far forward he plays. Between Rafael and Fabio we've got two solid right backs although both still give away sloppy fouls at times and leave me panic-stricken that they're about to be sent off; but with time they'll mature into something great. I honestly can't remember why Valencia was playing there to begin with but Darren Fletcher would be our reserve right-back if he wasn't suffering from ... whatever the hell his mystery illness is! ???
The Berbatov situation is a very difficult one for me because I love the guy. He's a fantastic player with amazing ability to hold the ball up and dictate play, his passing is superb at times and the whole United attacking dynamic can pivot around him at times when he's on form. The trouble is, where do you put him? He's ineffective as a lone striker, and yes I know he won the golden boot but he's not a clinical finisher when deployed right up top. Chicharito is better in that role. Dimi works brilliantly playing off the shoulder of the front man as a second striker but the problem is - that's where Rooney naturally falls back into. If you watch Roo's positioning during a game he kinda drops right off into the midfield most of the time, and that's where Berbatov is at his creative best. Sure, you could push Rooney out onto the left the way we do in the European Cup but then Nani or Young gets bumped from the team and we lose that crossing ability down the side.
The Berba puzzle has had us all befuddled for a couple of seasons now because there's no way to fit him into the system United play against the top teams. Sure, it's fine when we play 4-4-2 against lesser opponents but try that against a top 4 club or in a CL knockout tie and you'll get badly overrun in the middle of the park. Ferguson must have a nightmare picking the team!
Quote from: The Rev on July 22, 2011, 03:18:38 PM
I prefer Nani and Valencia as well but Young looks to me at least like he's going to be a good player for us. Nani's future seems to be a bit up in the air, he was excellent for the first half of last season but once Valencia came back from injury; Nani seemed to lose his place in the team entirely. When Rooney plays out on the left in big games, Nani becomes a spare part which is sad. I think United's strongest lineup now looks something like this:
------------------De Gea--------------
---Fabio----Ferdinand---Vidic---Evra---
------------Carrick----Anderson--------
---Valencia------Rooney--------Nani----
---------------Chicharito---------------
Fabio over Rafael?
And that is one heck of a weak centre midfield.
Barry Ferguson from Birmigham City to Blackpool
Bojan from Barcelona to Roma
Felipe Melo from Juventus to Galatasary
Aguero has been confirmed. Reported £38 million.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14226198.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14226198.stm)
Good signing who I assume will replace Tevez whenever he heads further towards Argentina. Sure he won't be playing as often as he'd like with the amount of attacking options City have though...
Pajtit Kasami has signed for Fulham. Played ten minutes against Split and looked pacy but horribly one footed...
Interesting that Mancini compared Aguero to Romário. I always saw a bit of Romário in him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95K5gccsN4Y&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95K5gccsN4Y&feature=related)
Charles N'Zogbia from Wigan to Villa
Ben Foster from Birmingham to West Brom [Loan]
Chris Eagles from Burnley to Bolton
Tyrone Mears also went to Bolton.
We have just signed Keith Treacy our replacement for Chris Eagles. And alongside Kieren Trippier (replacement for Mears) & Ben Mee. We're starting to get a good squad built up. Just another striker, and central midfielder and I think we are good to go. Bring on Saturday!
Chelsea's Romelu Lukaku.
My thoughts?
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Quote from: A-Jo on August 06, 2011, 07:51:32 PM
Chelsea's Romelu Lukaku.
My thoughts?
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If its a done deal that could be the signing of the summer for an English side.
Quote from: Potato Hater on August 06, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
If its a done deal that could be the signing of the summer for an English side.
Fee agreed and it's pending personal terms and medical.
He's said more than once he wants to join Chelsea though (Drogba's his idol) so I imagine it's a formality now. 8)
He's quite grounded too, he's said he doesn't expect to walk into the team, but giving him a year around Drogba, Anelka etc should do him a world of good.
We still need a winger, and a creative midfielder. Unless we're going to play McEachran a lot, which I'd be happy with to be honest.
That kids a absolute Freak.
Can't wait to see him play in the Prem....fucking Chelsea, I thought Arsenal had a lock on all good players under 21
Romelu is talented and going to be star, but watch out also for Lamela. His tekkers are unbelievable. Dale Jennings to Bayern is interesting. Ex-Liverpool youth and local lad!
Romelu has to work on his composure. Still so raw, but better than Drogba at that age. (If that is his real age :P)
Aye because Arsenal are always buying amazing U21 players............................................ -tumbleweed-
I donno, Walcott/Wilshere/Ramsey/Gibbs/Szencey(SP?) are decent
Leroy Lita from Middlesborough to Swansea
Steed Malbranque from Sunderland to A.S.S.E
DJ Campbell from Blackpool to QPR
Wayne Routledge from Newcastle to Swansea
Milan Jovanovic from Liverpool to Anderlich
Javier Pastore from Palermo to PSG
Erik Lamela from River Plate to Roma
Yuri Zhirkov from Chelsea to Anzi
John Carew from Aston Villa to West Ham
Theo Walcott is rubbish.
Quote from: A-Jo on August 08, 2011, 01:11:30 PM
Theo Walcott is rubbish.
He's a really fast bloke. Has 2-3 good, no.... let me re-phrase that. Goal scoring games - and everyone suddenly thinks he's sodding Garrincha and places all this unfounded, unfair and ridiculous expectation on him. ...Only Gael Clichy is worse at crossing a football!!!! :o
Its bascially what I said last year.....he was on pace to ALMOST make me eat my words. I've always complained he's all pace with no finishing. He had a brilliant game v/s Blackpool last year (yeah.....its only blackpool) but he was playing brilliantly up until his injury, and just never regained form.
I guess only time will tell
via goal.com
On Tuesday, Goal.com revealed how Anzhi were holding dialogue with Inter over a big money move.
After an initial round of talks between Branca, and a consortium of directors representing the Russian side, Inter have confirmed further negotiations will take place during the summer.
Speaking to La Gazzetta dello Sport, Branca said: "There has been an informal meeting and we have listened to Anzhi's offer. But because we are dealing with an important player, this is not a move that can be solved quickly. We will talk again."
Goal.com understands Anzhi have offered Inter â,¬35 million for Samuel Eto'o, tempting the player with a four-year deal worth â,¬20m per annum in a spending spree that will cost them â,¬115m in total.
Inter are reportedly trying to offload some of their highest earners this summer and Eto'o is wanted by Anzhi, who are looking to flex their financial muscle.
Last week Goal.com revealed how Manchester City and Inter were studying ways to work a deal for the striker.
But Anzhi have been quickest in sparking official talks. And no expenses have been spared as the first offer is worth â,¬35m to the Italian club as the Russians work to convince president Massimo Moratti to part company with the man he signed from Barcelona in 2009.
Once Branca finds an agreement with the bidders, the player will be enticed with a four-year contract offer which pays â,¬20m a year, more than double his current â,¬8m terms at San Siro.
Part of the income will then be used to spend on Genoa's Juraj Kucka, who coach Gian Piero Gasperini wants in his midfield.
Kucka has been booked in by Inter as a target for next summer, but director Marco Branca is working on a deal to bring him during this transfer window.
Quote from: Insomnia on August 08, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
He's a really fast bloke. Has 2-3 good, no.... let me re-phrase that. Goal scoring games - and everyone suddenly thinks he's sodding Garrincha and places all this unfounded, unfair and ridiculous expectation on him. ...Only Gael Clichy is worse at crossing a football!!!! :o
All pace, no end product.
Aaron Lennon is the same, but his delivery has improved the last couple of years.
But like 95% of English players, he doesn't have a football brain and he lacks the technique to ever be world class.
Quote from: A-Jo on August 09, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
All pace, no end product.
Aaron Lennon is the same, but his delivery has improved the last couple of years.
But like 95% of English players, he doesn't have a football brain and he lacks the technique to ever be world class.
In a hard premier league game that is stretched then as subs they make for excellent specialists for the football played here - otherwise there's just not enough, though. Luxury players. The quality is too few and far between for them to be first choice at a club with real top 4 ambitions and fair enough if you already have them on your books.. but aye, I wouldn't want my club to go spending big on them. :-\
Wasn't sure where to post this, but it is to awesome not to post and not that good that it deserves it's own thread. Cory might've already seen it.
that was awesome
I -just- came on to post that!! :-X
Jose Enrique agrees to terms with Liverpool.
Lol @ being an Arsenal supporter. He really must be crazy for only 1 legit signing this off-season....in a position we were FINE AT!
Made up about José. Great vision and imagination for a full back, bit of Aurelio in him without the glass bones and scintillating freekicks. I think Baines was the only "available" player we could have got from the Premier League that would have been even more perfect fit. 'S about time we had a left back who is both mobile and technical. Not one or the other.. I can't believe how much we're not paying.
You got.. Carroll 35 million, Milner 30 million, Rooney 30 million, SWP 22 million, Hargreaves 21 million, Henderson 20 million, Carrick 18 million, Glen Johnson 17 million.
then Villa 34 million, Robben 17 million, Ronaldo 25 million, Nasri 14 million, Sneijder 20 million, Modric 17.5 million, Sahin 8 million, Jose Enrique 6 million..
:D
The biggest laugh?? The 6/5 rule's being scrapped!
Quote from: Flins. on August 11, 2011, 09:37:13 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this, but it is to awesome not to post and not that good that it deserves it's own thread. Cory might've already seen it.
That is...so fucking awesome haha
Looks like Everton are all set to announce the signing of Foo kin no Wan.
Looks like the Fab deal to Barca is done.
The guy was pure class, and I wish him the best. Arsenal isnt worth a player of his quality at the moment.
Robbie Keane signs for Major League Soccer in a 3.5 million pound deal and ends up at the Galaxy who then offload Juan Pablo Angel to Chivas to give Keane the third DP slot (alongside Donovan and Beckham)
At 31 thats a very good signing for Major League Soccer.
Him and Henry are gonna toy with the league for the scoring title
Nasri to Man City for 25 million
Joey Barton from Newcastle to QPR
Simon Vukcevic from Sporting to Blackburn
Aqualani from Liverpool to Milan [Loan]
Adebeyor from Man City to Tottenham [Loan]
Samuel Eto'o from Inter to Anzi
Juan Mata from Valencia to Chelsea
Glad to See Arsenal doing things.
Arsenal Sign Park Chu Young from Monaco (.......really?)
and Andre Santos from Fernebache, which is a good pick up. He started at LB all of the Copa America for brazil, and hes a legit defender.....but is that it? Rumours say they got snubbed on Dortmunds Mario Gotze, which would have been a perfect signing, the best central midfielder not named Schweinstiger in the Germany League and hes like 19-20. But why would you even want to go to Arsenal?
Apparently Arsenal have signed Per Mertesacker for £6m.
MUCH better than Gary fucking Cahill in my opinion.
Source: http://translate.google.ie/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FFootball%2Fbreves2011%2F20110830_101313_mertesacker-serait-gunner.html (http://translate.google.ie/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lequipe.fr%2FFootball%2Fbreves2011%2F20110830_101313_mertesacker-serait-gunner.html)
And now BBC are reporting it, looks like it's a deal then (thank fuck).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14717213.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14717213.stm)
All we need is a holding midfielder and 1 more attacker and I wont bitch.
Get. It. Done.
Rumors have them going after Clint Dempsey, I wouldnt NOT want that, he knows how to play the English game, but he's not worth more than 7-9 personally, age considered.
Arsenal also shipped Armand Traore to QPR
Ha! You are going against PSG for Deuce and I doubt you'll get him. Plus he is a prolific goalscorer and easily worth that. Powerful, battling and skillful. An absolute asset to us and if you touch him I will cut you...
Davide Santon from Inter to Newcastle (Great Pick up, 6'3" wing back)
Sebastian Coates from Nacional to Liverpool
Elerijo Elia from Hamburg to Juventus
Scott Parker from West Ham to Tottenham (really Arsne?)
Diego Forlan from Athletic Madrid to Inter Milan
With all the money that is being thrown around in the Premier League I can't believe Elia went to Juve for £9mil, pennies! Dude is talented and has said in the past he wants to play in the Premier League, can't believe no one picked him up for that price.
Roma are making some great signings too; Kjaer, Pjanic, Lamela & Osvaldo. As are Inter with Forlan, Zarate & Poli.
Joe Cole to Lille could be interesting, see how he does in a different league and actually given the opportunity to play.
Brighton have signed Vicente which could be a tremendous signing for a club in the Championship. And yeah it is the ex-Valencia player everyone was raving about a few years back.
Not too sure if Mertesacker is a good signing, will reserve judgement till he plays. Personally don't feel he has the pace to cope with 80% of the Premier Leagues strikers. Especially if Arsenal are going to maintain the high line they've been playing, he's gunna get murdered.
Latest transfer I know of is David Bentley on loan to West Ham United.
The high line that Arsenal have been playing is a result of inexperience and poor defending, Mertesacker will combat both.
As for his pace, I don't think there's anything to worry about as Arsenal have had plenty of defenders before without blistering pace do well, if not better than the sprinters.
I think you're underestimating how slow Mertesacker is! Haha. I've only seen him play for Germany, and they play really deep and narrow so I never really got a good opinion of him. But I do remember the likes Rooney causing him a lot of problems when they ran at him.
Quote from: Flins. on August 31, 2011, 12:06:12 PM
I think you're underestimating how slow Mertesacker is!
This.
He runs like he's trying to move through treacle and a battleship can turn quicker than him!
He's a big fella though. Adds some much needed height to the Arsenal team.
If Hageland can be a legit prem defender, so can Mertersaker.
Others:
Yossi Benayoun to Arsenal from Chelsea
Mikel Arteta from Everton to Arsenal (better move that Dempsey)
Grygera from Juventus to Fulham
Owen Hargreaves from Man U to Man City
David NGog from Liverpool to Bolton
Palacios from Spurs to Stoke (Brilliant signing VERY underrated holding midfielders)
Craig Bellamy from City to Liverpool (for free, excellent depth)
Shaun Wright-Phillips from Man City to QPR (excellent signing for a promoted club)
Alan Hutton from Spurs to Villa
Anton Ferdinand from Sunderland to QPR
Peter Crouch from Spurs to Stoke
a/ Hangeland has a little bit of pace; not much but some. Mertesacker hasn't got that movement
b/ Arteta over Dempsey? Behave! I'll take a fit player who is consistent over an unfit decent player.
Bryan Ruiz from FC Twente to Fulham for £10.6million.
Orlando Sa Porto to Fulham on a free...
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN SCORE GOALS!
Jermaine Beckford from Everton to Leicester
Royston Drenthe Real Madrid to Everton
Bendtner to Sunderland from Arsenal!!!
Denis Stracqualursi from Tigres to Everton
Cameron Jerome from Brum to Stoke
Well stoke and sunderland snapping up those fucking awful players in Jerome and Bendtner
Despite Sky Sports trying to hype the fuck out of this all last night...I didn't feel like any of these signinings were a shock outside of Raul Meireles been concluded rather quickly. Lots of journey men players being well journey men
Also, I laughed a shit load at Arsenal's attempts to rebuild a team. Signing the Statue of Liberty at the back, some dodgey Brazilian fullback, Benayoun who last made an impact last hanukkah and Arteta who I agree with MDK on. Man is injury prone and it's like you had an Audi, had to sell it, got a Skoda Octavia and then said 'well their engines are made by the same people'...its still a fucking Skoda.
The comaprison of Mertesacker to Hangeland is pretty redundant as well seen as Fulham play a completely different game to Arsenal. Mertesacker would probs do awesome at Fulham, or Stoke, or so on and so on. Squllaci is a decent defender, he played for France and was a part of the dominant Lyon team that owned the French league for god knows how many years. But he was exposed by the way Arsenal play. As soon as Wenger started to enforce the style of play he wanted on the team, their defense was always going to be dodgy. What you need are strong, powerful defenders that have a lot of pace. Look at the most successful centre halves Le Arsé have had, Gallas, Campbell, Toure. And the flops, Senderos, Cygan, Squllaci. You can see the difference right? Heh.
A perfect signing for Arsenal would've been Samba. He is basically the new Sol Campbell. Other options that would fit into the Arsenal so much better than Merte are; Vincent Kompany, Sylvain Disten, Jolean Lescott, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, David Luiz, Alex. There are plenty others outside of the English leagues (Hello Otamendi!!) that would fit the role as well.
I just think Arsenal's transfer policys are dumb. It's almost like he signs defenders just to keep the fans happy, because he always goes with the cheaper option. And before anyone comments Andre Santos is not a defender haha he's a Michel Bastos, a left footed Dani Alves. But yeah, how much did he spend on Kocielny? (sp) And one of the better centre halves he has trained at the club, he reverts to playing as midfielder (Alex Song).
They'd rather spend £15million on Walcott Mk II than stump up the cash for a World Class defender. If Merte turns out to be class, I'll eat my words. But with the way Arsenal play, I don't see a happy ending for Merte's Arsenal career.
Regarding the other signings, LOL. From names of M'Vila to Goetze, some of the brightest stars of world football, and they signed a fringe player and an injury prone player. About three years too late with signing Arteta. I do think he will do a decent job though, if he stays fit. But if you look at a starting Arsenal eleven, i'd be a worried fan.
That Polish Keepers name I can't spell
Sagna - Mertesacker - Vermaelen (when fit) - Santos
Wilshere - Song - Ramsey/Arteta
Walcott - RVP - Gervinho
The only player in that team that is great is Van Perise. I like Wilshere & Ramsey but last weekend proved that some of these players were made to look better when playing alongside Fabregas & Nasri. And the attacking line up outside of the Dutchman? I've only seen Gervinho play once but man he's got a first touch worse than his haircut. And Walcot is just awful, I have no idea why he is so highly rated, Arsenal would be better signing up Usain Bolt he's faster and can probably cross a ball.
And I'm done. If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be prepared for another unsuccessful season and the likely hood of Europa League football nxt year. But hey, at least he bought some players...
Samba - Hahahaha.
Jolean Lescott, Vincent Kompany - plays for Citeh, probably gets paid in spaceships.
Sylvain Distin - Everton guy and despite their debts they are very reluctant to drop defenders as evidenced by the Jagielka (who is better anyhow) business.
Phil Jones, Chris Smalling - play for Man U, and you're expecting Arsenal to lure them away? David Luiz - bought in January on a 5 & 1/2 year contract, Chelsea aren't that stupid to sell him for a loss within the first year of his contract.
Alex - Another Chelsea guy who I would've liked, but it didn't happen.
Otamendi - Seems good, don't know enough to say.
So of the players you mentioned, four are playing for a Manchester club, one got signed on a long contract that hasn't passed the first year yet, one is Chris sodding Samba, one is playing for a club that won't shift a defender depsite their debts and as for Alex, it could've happened but something down the line stopped it.
Otamendi seems like an option but I don't know enough to say. Mert brings a lot to the table and gives the team a massively experienced international.
With a lineup of:
SZCZ
Sagna/Jenks -- Vermaelen/Djourou - Mert/Kos -- Santos/Gibbs
Song/The Frimpong
Wilshere/Rambo -- Arteta/Benayoun
Gervinho/Walcott/The Ox -- Arshavin/Miyaichi
RVP/Park/Chamakh
I think we're definitely in with a chance of finishing top 4, although the title challenge seems a long way away. We were never gonna replace Fabregas simply because there is no replacement for him, if there was and he was available Man Citeh and their spaceship brigade would've signed him up. As far as Na$ri goes, he was part of the problem with the team, Arteta and Gervinho are part of the solution.
There isn't a player as standout as Fab was within the last few years but as a team it looks like a stronger unit, we've got the next few games to see how things pan out but I'm optimistic.
As far as Hazard, M'Villa and Gotze go, chances are they had more than one reason they didn't want to join, possibly 8 reasons why. If it's legit then Arsenal have January and the next transfer window to have a go.
Could be worse though, Charlie Adam had a medical (which he failed) in June so thank fuck we didn't sign him.
Think you missed my point about the signings >_>
What I was getting at is that these are players that they could've signed in the past, but Wenger has made poor choices in the defenders he has signed. Laugh all you want at Samba, he's a better than any of your CB's. Phil Jones only signed for United this summer, why weren't they after him? He has all the potential in the world to eb a world class CB and Arsenal seemingly had no interest. Same with Smalling. I reckon the majority of the defenders I listed would've signed for Arsenal if given the chance, but he didn't go for them. He'd rather splash the cash on a winger that's been tearing up League One.
Half the team you posted is the team that got demolished by United. Top 4? Having a laugh mate. Unless of course Wenger changes the way Arsenal play, then you might get somewhere.
I don't think Top 4 is having a laugh at all.
All it would require is for us to beat Liverpool and Spurs in the League. Spurs - I won't even get started on but they just got rid of 9 players and I don't see any signings that massively improve them, they can stay in the Europa League.
Liverpool are a genuine threat but they have a problem that they had with Torres - what happens if Suarez gets crocked? Carroll can't do it alone and as of yet doesn't look comfortable playing for the reds, and who else is waiting in the wings? Adam is fine and Henderson will improve but Suarez is magic, as shown by the fact King Kenny didn't even rest him against Exeter, and he was by far the stand out player.
As far as Arsenal go, yes we have missed out on some players but as a fan I'm happy with what has come in this window. PROVEN premier league players, which is such a departure from the normal Wenger strategy. Mertesacker is a beast and we didn't need two pacey centre halfs when we had Adams back there, also under Wenger. Vermaelen is quick and Sagna is one of the most accomplished full backs I've seen. Santos will hopefully be like Clichy but WITH an end product.
Song, Wilshere and Arteta is a match for most midfields, and the potential of Frimpong is great. Up top is where I have the most reservations, as RVP will only play 25 games a year. Walcott if played up top is a great threat, and Gervinho actually takes players on instead of passing sideways like everyone else.
People will ridicule Arsene and not without reason but I think champions league football is on the cards next season again.
Quote from: Flins. on September 01, 2011, 05:53:36 AM
The only player in that team that is great is Van Perise. I like Wilshere & Ramsey but last weekend proved that some of these players were made to look better when playing alongside Fabregas & Nasri. And the attacking line up outside of the Dutchman? I've only seen Gervinho play once but man he's got a first touch worse than his haircut. And Walcot is just awful, I have no idea why he is so highly rated, Arsenal would be better signing up Usain Bolt he's faster and can probably cross a ball.
And I'm done. If I was an Arsenal fan, I'd be prepared for another unsuccessful season and the likely hood of Europa League football nxt year. But hey, at least he bought some players...
Bit harsh to make a judgement on Wilshere post-Nasri/Fab. He hasn't even played yet! And it's not like he plays shit for England when they're not there...
I think Arsenal's signings are solid. But they're not ground breaking. I do think that Wenger has signed players who can mostly fit straight into his system, which is a wise move.
And Ian, Bellamy might be a journey man. But that transfer certainly took me by surprise!
Exactly, Arsenal got a bunch of players who fit the Arsenal way of playing. Samba wouldn't, Jagielka would've done had we got him and as for Jones/Smalling who's to say Arsenal didn't have an interest in them before Man U snapped them up.
The reality is that Arsenal can't compete in terms of pure money with Man U/Citeh/Chelsea and other big clubs in Europe. What Arsenal have to do and what they have done is make astute transfers that maximise on what the player will actually do. Mertesacker is better than Cahill but Cahill would've cost twice as much because of the sodding English premium (see: Carroll, Andy).
Gervinho could end up being a cracking signing and a better option than Na$ri for half the price, especially considering that Citeh and their spaceship brihade bought a player in the last year of his contract and with limited moments of great performances for silly money.
I think Mert will do just fine. Wenger obviously didnt buy a 6'6" CB and DIDNT realize that he couldnt beat Walcott in a footrace.
Lol, do you guys know anything about defending? If you have a big lank, he'll play holding, and you have Vermaelen whose a fast CB who can cover for Mertesacker. All Wenger will do it have the two center backs play zone coverage rather than man, so the chance of Mert getting beat for pace is greatly decreased and it'll have more one on ones, and Mert to toss guys like Lennon/Aguero out of the way.
Mertesacker was exactly what we need, sure I'd take Samba simply because hes almost as big and has a bit more pace, but Mert is EXPERIENCED, 75 Germany caps, and he'll help a fuck load on set pieces. Add a legit LB in Andre Santos (hes really attacking, hopefully hes an engine and can get back in position). Sagna/Vermaelen/Mert/Santos with the surprising excellent play from Szsezney is a defense that can finish top 4 (if they stay healthy).
The BIG defensive problem is Sagna/Santos. Both are attacking wing backs, and unless they end up being Cole/Ivanovic/Bosingwa they're probably going to get caught on the counter attack alot and be exposed with both guys up field. I hope Wenger changes his style here.
Arteta is he can stay healthy (honestly.....same goes for our captain Van Persie) is a great pickup. Hes a excellent playmaker, has prem experiences and shown that HE can perform at the EPL. Benayoun/Ramsey/Wilshere is a great back-up on the middle, or whatever they decided to do we got depth. Song was my player of the year last year, excellent marking and tackling. I woulda liked another CDM to be brought in, but hoping for January.
and on a Gervinho note, he looked excellent against Udienese in the second leg, and I think his first touch and shit is all temporary, he just needs to adjust to the game.
Quote from: Cory on September 01, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Lol, do you guys know anything about defending?
DO YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!
The Premiership is a quick game there are a limited amount of teams who play a tough aggressive style up front, most teams rely on pace and moving the ball on the deck. The German league is a more methodical footballing league hence you can be a lanky drain pipe and be effective. Plus this would also be relevant if Vermaelen was anything to write home about. He was hot for about 3 games last season...
You lot can rag on guys like Samba all you want, but he would have been a much better fit for Arsenal.
The one thing that you have completely missed and a lot of Gunners fans have is that the role of the modern day Centre Half has changed. No longer are guys like Tony Adams, Martin Keown and Steve Bould relevant because a Centre Half is asked to do a lot more...
I don't doubt in a league where the game is different he would be a fine player, but in the Premiership he is going to struggle, specifically if Arsenal play with the temp of the top teams in the league which play a high line back four and as for him at set pieces...you need someone to deliver the ball to him. Arsenal sold most of that already.
Alassaine N'Daiye was released by Crystal Palace
Uhh, correct me if I'm wrong but Fulham had one of the top backlines last year and there's no real pace there. Hageland/Hughes/Baird/ arent any more mobile than Arsenals backline, considering everyone BUT Per is quick for a defender.
AND I clearly stated that with Mertersacker Arsenal need to play ZONE defense, do you not understand what that is? Thats is exactly how you will fit Mertersacker in the premier league. Dont leave him to one on ones where he can be exposed to pace (man d) rather have Mertersacker stay behind Vermaelen, cutting out balls through the air and offering support while Vermaelen is more mobile closing in the faster players, and worse case scenario getting beat yet slowing their pace down enough that Mert can make a play.
If need be, move the wing-back that's opposite the play to Mert's blind side to cover any swings across the pitch or wingers making a run. Defending 101.
I doubt Arsenal's line will be high, because Wenger obviously will compensate for Mertersakers pace, and odds say he'll move to zone, at least with the two center back partnerships.
Lol @ hot for 3 games last season, he played like 5 games before he got injured, and he's looked pretty good this season, brilliant in both Champions League qualifiers.
...and hes played about every National Team and hasn't really ever struggled. Hes played the likes of Spain who probably have the most pace up front and he hasn't been torched by critics for his lack of pace. You dont get 75 caps for Germany and totally get outplayed every game
And where did Fulham finish (no offence MDK)...
Arsenal are SUPPOSE to be a top 4 team in the Premiership, at the level for both Europe and contending for a top spot in the Premiership you need to have a different type of centre half. Try watching a game...
A "zone marking" system is nearly impossible to play unless you have another centre half and fullbacks who can play that type of football or if your managerial skills are based off an under 9's girls team. Arsenal haven't played that type of football for YEARS (not that you would apparently know that), its an outdated type of football and Arsenal have constantly found ways to push their wing backs forward. They have signed a left back who plays EXACTLY that type of football.
So effectively your saying to incorporate him that requires abadoning their entire system for one player. They haven't got the depth of talent or the right players to play that and yes I stand by the fact Vermaelen was a flash in the pan in his first season and last season in the limited amount of games he played mostly because he bagged a couple of goals year one. Brilliant in the Champions League? Pretty good this season? Where EXACTLY are Arsenal in the League at the moment? The side have been unimpressive in the Champions League so far...
Furthermore before you start raving about his National team performances, take a good look at the players around him...then take a good look at the players around him for Arsenal. Take a good look at how Germany play football which is and always has been an industrious type of play which is EXACTLY what their league is like as well, then look at what type of football Arsenal play and what type of football is played in the league they are in.
You just completely astound me with your comments sometimes...ignorant to the extreme about your team and the beautiful game as a whole.
I think most football fans know what Zonal Marking is Cory.
People are saying that Wenger has bought in players that fit his teams style of play and then they are saying that they are going to have to completely change their defensive set up to fit in Mertesacker? Bit of hypocrisy there, but then again you are Arsenal fans :p And if you think switching from man-marking and playing a high line, to a zonal marking system with one guy sweeping will be simple... you've been playing too much Footie Manager.
I'll say it again since Cory doesn't read my posts, heh, Fulham play completely different game to Arsenal you can't compare their defenders to Arsenal defenders. Squillaci would probably do really well playing for Fulham.
The only signing that fits into their style of play is Arteta, and he's been plying his trade at freaking Everton for the last seven years or so.
And to the person who said Arsenal can't compete finacially with Man United, why can't they? They sell players for big money, the buy for pennies, they have huge sponsership deals, hell they sold their stadium rights to Emirates. They get the same money every season as the other top four for being in the Champs League. They have the money to spend, they just won't. If the rumours are true that they bid 20-30mil for Gotze then fairplay. But Arsenal have always seemed more interested in being financially stable than winning trophies.
I still have a feeling Arsenal will sneak into the Champs League spots, the squad might be depleted but Wenger is still one of the great man managers.
Whole thing is Wenger was put under pressure to make signings this window after losing most his quality players and hasn't made the signings that are in accordance to the quality his team should be playing at. They've not signed top 6 players let alone top 4. In the past Wenger has made amazing signings, some of the best for a lower price ever, but in the last year or so he hasn't managed that. The quality in the team currently is who? Arshavin who has 1 good game out of 5? Ramsey and Wilshere who are good players but won't reach their full potential till probably the end of the year. Walcott? The most inconsistent player in English football since Darren Anderton! Van Persie can't do it all by himself and if the last year or so are anything to go by, he won't be able to because his fitness recently has been down the drain.
I won't even mention their backline... The fact that Gael Clichy was probably one of their best defenders in the last few years and that they had to re-sign a nearly 40 year old Sol Campbell just for extra cover tells me that they are incredibly weak at the back.
2 injuries in their defense and they are fucked and think about it, Ferdinand and Vidic spent most of last season injured and yet Man Utd STILL won the Premiership. And that's mostly because of the coverage Fergie has in those positions... Especially now. I've never been a huge fan of Evans or Smalling but from what I've seen of them so far this season they have more than enough quality to back up the first team. And the same can be said for mostly every of the other great teams in the league, ie., Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool.
Paul Merson made a great point in the 8-2 loss the other day. Whilst Man Utd have young players, they play like professionals. Arsenal's young players play like young, inexperienced players. I don't think Wenger has the management ability anymore to do what Ferguson and Dalglish have been doing for 20 years+.
Quote from: Cory on September 01, 2011, 04:53:37 PM
Uhh, correct me if I'm wrong but Fulham had one of the top backlines last year and there's no real pace there. Hageland/Hughes/Baird/ arent any more mobile than Arsenals backline, considering everyone BUT Per is quick for a defender.
AND I clearly stated that with Mertersacker Arsenal need to play ZONE defense, do you not understand what that is? Thats is exactly how you will fit Mertersacker in the premier league. Dont leave him to one on ones where he can be exposed to pace (man d) rather have Mertersacker stay behind Vermaelen, cutting out balls through the air and offering support while Vermaelen is more mobile closing in the faster players, and worse case scenario getting beat yet slowing their pace down enough that Mert can make a play.
If need be, move the wing-back that's opposite the play to Mert's blind side to cover any swings across the pitch or wingers making a run. Defending 101.
I doubt Arsenal's line will be high, because Wenger obviously will compensate for Mertersakers pace, and odds say he'll move to zone, at least with the two center back partnerships.
Lol @ hot for 3 games last season, he played like 5 games before he got injured, and he's looked pretty good this season, brilliant in both Champions League qualifiers.
The point is Fulham defend as a team. They get two banks of four and will happily sit deep and sock up pressure. Pace is not exploited as much in these ways.
Arsenal are so stretched all the time that you can't simply cover players. Look at their defensive displays! So it's silly to suggest that Mert will never have to deal with one-on-ones.
Now that doesn't mean he won't do well lol. I'm just pointing out you're talking pish. I think his experience will certainly help him not get isolated as much--and he should help the younger defenders. But at times he WILL be exposed.
And Flins, United have much more money than Arsenal. Arsenal have the debt of the new stadium and, despite selling players, get much less in ticket sales, sponsorship etc
Quote from: Cory on September 01, 2011, 11:59:12 AM
Lol, do you guys know anything about defending?
I certainly hope so as a full back/centre half with over 300 senior league games and 13 years experience in the bag. (Did I mention the 30 career goals? I feel like I should mention the goals.)
Zonal marking has done more than it's fair share to fuck teams up in the Premier League. Liverpool operated it under Rafa and they were pathetic at set pieces. Always were.
Mertesacker will certainly be the ball winner of the two centre halves and Vermaelen will sweep - as long as Arsene has any sense anyway. Sagna is the complete defender and I have no qualms about his ability to track back and add extra cover if needed. We'll see about Santos.
Man marking is the most effective form of defence without a shadow of a doubt, especially at set pieces. Man marking requires discipline and effort and balls. That's where Arsenal lose out. Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicky, Song, Arshavin, Walcott, Van Persie - they don't track back and assume any defensively responsibility when they lose the ball. Jenkinson might not be ready for the Prem but he was grossly exposed at Old Trafford by a lazy midfield. Every time we've lost to Man U, the difference is in work rate. Rooney ran the length of the pitch at the Emirates in Jan 2010 - just ran straight up the middle of the pitch from his area to ours. Nobody tracked him, they watched him run past and he scored the easiest goal of his life.
Arsenal can still play their style of play and slot Mertesacker right in - he's not there to play anyway. Sol Campbell always had shite distribution but he did a job. Arteta will sit deep - he uses a different range of passing to Fabregas. If Wilshere's enthusiasm and effort can wear off on Song then we have a good midfield 3 there. Frimpong demonstrated against Liverpool that he has great positioning as a holding player too. Just needs to sort his temperament out.
And Ian, I can see your point about centre halves being asked to do more now, but you generally only have one out of the two that aim to do that. Unless you're Stoke, Blackburn etc, when you have two bruisers. Ferdinand is very much the ball player of the first choice Man U pair - Vidic can get caught out if he over complicates (not to say that Ferdinand hasn't been a few times in his career - I will also say that Vidic is very good in the opposition penalty area, but as a back up to my point - how often does he get there in open play?). Look at Liverpool - Skrtel and Carragher are hardly master technicians, although that can change if Agger is playing. The trouble Arsenal had last season was having TWO centre halves that want to play. Vermaelen is good on the deck and can pop up with a few goals. Koscielny wants to play too - you add those together and you've got nobody to clean house. Squillaci has delusions of grandeur and Djourou is another one that can play with his feet.
I think Mertesacker will fit in just fine and we won't need to adapt our style to accommodate him.
And Jerry, your point about Fulham is excellent. There are a couple of teams in the Prem that are excellent at closing down all over the pitch. Unfortunately this inevitably comes with two drawbacks - lack of space for your own players and lapses in concentration/fatigue. The difference between Arsenal and Man U, for example, is that Arsenal cannot seem to employ this kind of defensive set up when they're struggling to close out a game. Man Utd have such amazing levels of discipline on a player by player level that they can. I hate the bloody team but I can't help but admire them. Ferguson is a genius at getting the best of his players.
I'm pretty sure Man United are in more debt than Arsenal, Jerry. And honestly, there is no f***ing way Arsenal have not been turning a profit the last few seasons, they might have the stadium hangovere but with sponsership, player sales, merchandising, ticket sales, Premier League revenue, Champions League revenue. There is no way they can't find 30-40 mil to spend every other season.
Everything Dorling has said, I agree with. Apart from Mertesacker fitting in with Arsenal's high defensive line, but like I said initially, I'll wait to see him play for the club before judging his potential there. I've seen him play a few times for Bremen & Germany and I've not overally been impressed. But then again, I thought Smalling was not going to amount to anything, and he has looked tremendous since joining United and having some freedom to his play.
Wait, I thought the debate was about Mertersackers pace being an issue? Thats what I've been going on in each of my posts, and what Arsenal could (IMO should, but as brought up it IS too much to change your style based on one player, BUT an 8-2 loss should make Arsne more leiniant to change and it'd ease Mert into the prem, hence 'need' to change in previous post) do to help compensate for Mertersackers lack of pace.
I dont think I rose an argument claiming that Zone defence was the premier style to play, I haven't played in a zone defense since I trained with Aad de Mos (former Ajax manager) in 08' and he showed how ineffective it was for our squad, and basically showed up our coach who kept trying to make us play that way. But a zone defence would certainly be a patch to help for a players lack of pace, which was my argument all along. The zone would be blown out of the water (as I said) because Sagna/Santos will always be up the flanks and unless you had like.....Song/Wilshere drop back and cover they'd be exposed. But anytime I've ever played footy (even after the week long de Mos seminair) every team I've played for used a zone and it worked, simply because we'd have a lank and myself in the middle, and I'd play in front of him behind the holding midfielder, ALWAYS would slow the pace of the game from the wings so a slower player can defend inside where he has the advantage. Back to Arsenal,
Perhaps if they limited Sagna's movement forward, and let Santos go up the field (honestly Sagna isn't that great of an attacker, solid ball control but lacks crossing) they could incorporate a zone defense, but highly unlikely.
I think Wenger should consider elements of a zone, so for once Arsenal can kinda of revert to the Invicibles backline. The 2 big men in the middle (Campbell/Toure ~ Mertersaker/Vermaelen), the all purpose back (Lauren / Sagna) and the attacking back (A. Cole / Santos). Shame we couldn't grab another defensive midfielder to play with Song in the middle. (Im on no means trying to compare the two squads, just highlighting the similarities of the style of play) which is pretty close.
As for my personally opinion on Per, I do want to see how his speed does match up with the Prem game before I can officially say "they need to do...." ect, perhaps I jumped the gun because for all we know he could fit in just fine.
I guess we should probably have one of these. Seem to remember one last year.
Yakubu & Drogba to China--the new retirement home for footballers it seems haha
Eden Hazard, Marin and apparently this Oscar kid to Chelsea
Kagawa to United
Giroud & Podolski to Arsenal
Sigurdsson to Spurs
I actually think the new promoted teams have made some good signings personally.
Jussi Jaaskelainen, Diame to West Ham
Gunter, McCleary, the Pog, Shorey and I think someone else to Reading
Jay Rodriguez to Southampton
And whoever is the Villa fan (Blade?) I went to see Villa vs. Burton and Karim El Ahmadi is absolute class.
Not been as super exciting as I would have thought to be honest. Then United seem strong in for RVP!
David Hoilett to QPR
Ibrahamovic & Thiago Silva from AC Milan to PSG
Ezequiel Lavezzi from Napoli to PSG
Hugo Rodallega from Wigan to Fulham
Jan Vertonghen from Ajax to Spurs
Ji-Sung Park from United to QPR
Robert Green from West Ham to QPR
Salomon Kalou from Chelsea to Lille
Pavel Pogrebnyak from Stuttgart to Reading
Lucio from Inter to Juventus
Steven Naismith from Rangers to Everton
Steven Whittaker from Rangers to Norwich
Fulham have got Rodallega, Sascha Riether and Mladen Petric (who appears to score for fun!
Guedioura from Wolves to Forest. Great signing. And apparently part of the deal is Forest get Elokobi as well (unsure about this). A much needed addition as we have NO senior defenders and of the three youth defenders we have there are rumours about two of them leaving...
And Varney to Leeds. I forgot just how bad Pompey's situation was. Tal Ben Haim not accepting a wage cut when he's on 36k/week seems to not help either. If he keeps those demands up the club goes bust and he doesn't get the money anyway!
Quote from: Jerry McClean on July 23, 2012, 09:00:02 AM
And whoever is the Villa fan (Blade?) I went to see Villa vs. Burton and Karim El Ahmadi is absolute class.
Yeah its me.
I totally forgot that was on because I would have gone as the Pirelli Stadium is like 10 minutes from my house! Have heard good things about him though
Hearing that Arsenal got Santi Carzola from Malaga
Quote from: M.D.K. on July 24, 2012, 02:16:50 AM
Fulham have got Rodallega, Sascha Riether and Mladen Petric (who appears to score for fun!
Fulham have also signed a 16 year old striker from PSG called....Moussa Dembele!
'There's only 2 Dembeles.'
Lucas snubbs Man U to go to free spending PSG
RVP to Man U....fuck you all!!!!
Will be making the trip to South London to watch Palace vs Arsenal next season
Well there's the story going round that RVP's failed his medical due to the back injury he got from carrying the whole of Arsenal's team last season. So you might keep him yet! >_>
Jack Rodwell -> Man City for £15millionish. Ridiculous on several fronts I think but eh, it's City.
In that case I hope City become interested in Moses.... buy him for about £40 million, so we can get a huge sell-on fee.
Rumours have it that they're after Scott Sinclair for about £10 million for the 'young winger to sit on the bench' role. Looks like you'll have to wait for Chelsea to spend on Victor haha
This is why I hate big teams their ruining the game. They take all these players that would make the league twice as exciting to watch but they sit all these guys on the bench and ruin the game
Arsenal used to be one of those big teams...........
Quote from: Rob on August 16, 2012, 11:43:32 AM
Arsenal used to be one of those big teams...........
......AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Your seriously trying to compare the pure talent and funding Man City and United/Chelsea has on their bench to a degree has to what Arsenal used to have?
Man Citys bench is worth my than the entire Arsenal roster.
Arugably on Man City, their bench is, all guys that would start on almost every other team in the prem
Kolarov
Kolo Toure
De Jong/Rodwell/Barry
And whoever it left out between Johnson/Milner
And that attacking line...whats the point? Just to have so other teams can't? Smart to win the league, but shit for us fans. I dont want to watch a talent like Dzeko/Adebeyor(fuck him)/Tevez/Balotelli sit on the bench every other game
Dude... Do you not remember that Arsenal were the top 2 teams with United for most of the 90s and early 00s? The unbeatable team? They were a fantastic team... They are not anymore.
did I say they were a big team now? No... Maybe you should research the phrase "used to be"
Ohhh, no man I guess were bickering over two things, lol.
I was talking about teams who stock up on talent and never use them, and just referred to them as big teams ie Man City/Chelsea/Barca/Real.
As big as Arsenal used to be, they never bought highly talented players that they never used, like the big teams now a days
Quote from: Cory on August 16, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
Ohhh, no man I guess were bickering over two things, lol.
I was talking about teams who stock up on talent and never use them, and just referred to them as big teams ie Man City/Chelsea/Barca/Real.
As big as Arsenal used to be, they never bought highly talented players that they never used, like the big teams now a days
Thats not strictly true. Its impossible to do a like for like comparison, but by the standards of teams during the Gunners heydays they would sit a lot of talented players who would walk into a lot of Premiership sides during said heydays. Same difference, just their is more money now...
You compare say the Gunners of the early 00s era vs say Everton during the same time period and the Gunners bench was littered with players who would be first choice in most Premiership sides.
Fact is Arsenal have allowed the development of the EPL to pass them by and are now longer a big club that attracts big players like they use to like a Bergkamp, Overmars, Henry etc..
Fergie says the signing of 18yo Chilean striker Angelo Henriquez is United's final signing. Which means the only defensive signing he's made was a left back when Evra has been the only defender able to get a good run of games going in recent years.
It does leave United with a ridiculous strikeforce though.
Chelsea sign Cesar Azpilicueta from Marseille and agree a fee of about £9 Million with Wigan for Victor Moses.
Palace have signed Darcy Blake, Yannick Bolasie and André Moritz. Blake and Bolasie are two young guys wit plenty of experience under their belts in this division and Moritz is a strong, pacey Brazilian winger. Watched a few videos of him and he looks very capable, skillful and fit.
Apparently we are not done yet either... We do need another striker and I'd be happy with a loan or two for the rest of the squad. One more winger and full-back on loan would be great
Adam Johnson to Sunderland. Good signing for them.
Liverpool sign Nuri Sahin on a season long loan from Real Madrid, could be a great signing for them.
Quote from: Trumpers on August 24, 2012, 06:55:35 PM
Adam Johnson to Sunderland. Good signing for them.
Steven Fletcher too. They needed new signings and I think both of those are good ones.
Modric to Madrid has finally happened.
Sinclair to City looks like it's just being finalised.
And hearing about the Adebayor transfer is ridiculous. Spurs signed him who got nearly 20 goals last season iirc...for 5 million. Not only that but despite him being a spurs player Man City still play some of his wages!
Spurs have unlocked Dembele release clause with 15million bid. We are bringing in Kieron Richardson... Not the best of nights but giving him a chance to shine...
Still nothing for Arsenal.
That is all.
Rumours so far
Carroll to West Ham
De Jong to AC Milan
Klasnic to QPR
heard Carroll only wants to go back to Newcastle
...and his loan to Hammers is complete.
Quote from: Cory on August 30, 2012, 03:57:20 PM
...and his loan to Hammers is complete.
QuoteWest Ham have confirmed the signing of Andy Carroll on loan from Liverpool. Story to follow..
by Adam Bate 8:39 PM
BOSH~!
I was waiting for it to kick in, hasn't updated here yet.
And it appears it was before i posted the rumour!
Shame, West Ham will use him as another Carlton Cole
Makes sense....why give him to Newcastle and have it potentially bite Liverpool in the ass...give it to West Ham who wont challenge their spot for Europe next season.
Richardson to fulham
Berbatov to fulham for 4mill.
chris david to fulham
Couple more to come
Heard Michel Bastos to Fulham....which would be UNREAL......Fulham....FULHAM can get a top wing back and Arsenal still have Jenkinson?
I need a new team man, this transfer window might be the last straw.
Well mostly because Fulham go out and buy players whereas Arsenal.... do nothing
Quote from: Rob on August 31, 2012, 02:18:16 PM
Well mostly because Fulham go out and buy players whereas Arsenal.... do nothing
Oh yeah, I forgot.
Michel bastos
Ashgan dejagah
Derek boateng fell through. Think Dempsey deal falling through is certain. Truly making moves
Must be nice. Heard we might be getting Essien.....like....could they be any fucking worse at being a club?
M'Vila is there for the taking, but we might look at bringing in a guy whose more injury prone than RVP...plays like 6-7 games a season. I fucking hate my birthday because every year Arsenal disappoints.
Dempsey to spuds
Bastos may have fallen through
Man. I love transfer deadline day. And for once my team signed a couple of people too! haha
Any update on the Bastos deal? Would like to add him into my fantasy team
Deadline was 24 hours ago mate, deal never really got started.
Palace signed David Goodwillie on loan from Blackburn. Funny name and a decent striker, I suspect the next time we play we will have an appropriate chant for him :D
Also signed Damien Delaney on a free who bossed the defense for us today and secured a 2-1 win over preciously unbeaten Sheffield Thursday.
This Andre Moritz bloke we have signed has been absolutely wonderful and I am confident that this time next year he will be playing in the Premiership
They wanted 7mill. We wanted a loan. Deal fell through
Damn, 7 mill seems like a steal for a left back/winger type with real set piece threat ala Bale
Who do we think were the best transfer from deadline day then? Here's a list of a few of them...
31 AUGUST - TRANSFER DEADLINE DAY
Charlie Adam [Liverpool - Stoke] £5m
Joey Barton [QPR - Marseille] Loan
Yossi Benayoun [Chelsea - West Ham] Loan
Nicklas Bendtner [Arsenal - Juventus] Loan
Christian Benteke [Genk - Aston Villa] Undisclosed
Dimitar Berbatov [Manchester United - Fulham] Undisclosed
Jay Bothroyd [QPR - Sheffield Wednesday] Loan
Jordan Bowery [Chesterfield - Aston Villa] £500,000
James Coppinger [Doncaster - Nottingham Forest] Loan
Nigel de Jong [Manchester City - AC Milan] Undisclosed
Ashkan Dejagah [Wolfsburg - Fulham] Undisclosed
Damien Delaney [Ipswich - Crystal Palace] Free
Nathan Delfouneso [Aston Villa - Blackpool] Loan
Clint Dempsey [Fulham - Tottenham] £6m
Giovani Dos Santos [Tottenham - Real Mallorca] Undisclosed
Michael Essien [Chelsea - Real Madrid] Loan
Javi Garcia [Benfica - Manchester City] £16m
David Goodwillie [Blackburn - Crystal Palace] Loan
Adam Hammill [Wolves - Huddersfield] Loan
Pablo Hernandez [Valencia - Swansea] £5.55m
Hugo Lloris [Lyon - Tottenham] £11.8m
Maicon [Inter Milan - Manchester City] Undisclosed
Nicky Maynard [West Ham - Cardiff] £2.5m
Stephane Mbia [Marseille - QPR] Undisclosed
David McGoldrick [Nottingham Forest - Coventry] Loan
Matija Nastasic [Fiorentina - Manchester City] £10m
Steven Nzonzi [Blackburn - Stoke] 3.5m
Gaston Ramirez [Bologna - Southampton] Undisclosed
Kieran Richardson [Sunderland - Fulham] £2m
Danny Rose [Tottenham - Sunderland] Loan
Billy Sharp [Southampton - Nottingham Forest] Loan
Scott Sinclair [Swansea - Manchester City] £6.2m
Rafael van der Vaart [Tottenham - Hamburg] £10m
Fulham and Spurs were the busiest and probably got the best signing tbh. Adam was talking about the need for a striker and they got Berbatov whilst Dempsey is a class signing for Spurs and a real bargain at that price
I'm concerned that with VDV and Modric gone we'll lack for a bit of creative spark, but pleased to get Dempsey at a reasonable price - and very very happy to have finally secured a goalie of that calibre. Will be interesting to see what happens with him and Friedal. 41 or not the bloke is still a very good keeper, but you don't pay 12 million or so for a guy you're going to bench.
Hearing Michael Owen signed for Stoke this evening.
Now we just eagerly await which club signs Emile Heskey! lol
Hulk signed for Zenit and Meireles is off to Fenerbache.
Fucking Russians
Quote from: Jerry McClean on September 04, 2012, 06:09:12 PM
Now we just eagerly await which club signs Emile Heskey! lol
Hopefully fucking no one.. lazy piece of shit!
Fulham got Karagounis on a free. Kinda a brilliant move considering we are thin in midfield...
Where do you want your team to strengthen in January?
Personally, I think Forest could do with a few more defenders. Or at least the defenders to start jelling a bit more. We've given away far too many cheap goals the first half of the season. As long as the strikers and midfielders stay fit though we're pretty well stocked there.
A back-up striker. Glenn Murray can't be relied on all season, despite his 20 goals already, we need to have someone better than Aaron Wilbraham, Jermaine Easter or Kwesi Appiah that can come in and score. A central midfielder. Don't want a defensive one or an attacking one, but one that can dictate the run of play and create attacking movements without pushing too far forward. At the moment we're playing this 2 defensive CM's and 1 attacking CM and it's working but when KG goes to African Cup of Nations, we'll be down to 3 good first team central midfielders... And if 1 of them gets injured... We're fucked. And a back-up winger... Bolasie and Zaha are just about the best 2 players in the league at the moment, but both are potentially eligible to go and play in the AFCON, if one goes, it'll hurt, if both goes, we're totally fucked and we can kiss goodbye to promotion.
Can we get a keeper for Xmas and a midfielder with a bit of bite!
Where to start.
Striker. Giroud is trash, Walcott is playing good in the center forward position, but if Wenger doesnt want him there, we need to finally buy RVP's replacement. Falcao would be a dream, but a top guy who will cost around 30 mill....someone like Cavani, Huntelaar, or hell even Demba Ba would be nice. Podolski is playing good, but Gervinho/Giroud are crap more times than not. Id say toss 15 mill at Northamption for AKINFENWA!
Defensive midfielder. Wilshere is hurt 90% of the time, Ramsey has played poor all year. Arteta has been class, but a replacement for Song is needed. I`ve heard Tiote from Newcastle rumors, but hes a tiny fella, we need a Viera mold. M'Vila would be phenomenal,
Depth. We need to get more depth on the backline. Id like another wing back and center back ideally, cheap guys from the Prem who already know this style of foootball. Someone like Michael Turner or something.
Fulham desperately need two CMs, a decent CB and probably one more attacking option as support for Berba
Utd need a winger and a tacking CM. I would be happy with Cabaye or Tiote plus any winger with a left foot. Even Downing would be better than what we've got. We won't need an Evra replacement if Fabio learns a bit from his brother.
Wolves need 11 players who have a basic understanding of what football is and a new manager.
Chris Wood. West Brom -> Leicester. Undisc
-Great championship level signing this one
Daniel Sturridge. Chelsea -> Liverpool. Undisc/about 12 mill
-He wants to play through the centre...not sure that'll happen at L'Pool!
Looks like Ba is virtually confirmed to Chelsea as well. Again, I'm not entirely sure how much he'll play. But not a bad person to come off the bench!
I've heard we have rejected an £8 million offer from United for Zaha and that we're looking at Danny Butterfield as back-up, Jacob Butterfield as a loan and Jerome Thomas as a transfer target.
Heard Arsenal are lining up a 12 million dollar bid for Akinfenwa.
Joe Cole. L'Pool -> West Ham. Free
-Confirmed. Think that's a decent signing tbf. Not sure about his fitness but he's a player of such quality that he has to be a decent option.
PSG signed Brazillian stud Lucas
Spurs signed really talented Germany midfielder Luis Holtby from Schalke.
Demba Ba to Chelsea is a done deal.
Newcastle got Debuchy from Lille....very good pick up. Debuchy starts LB on France as well.
Chamakh loaned from Arsenal to Hammers....LOL.
Loic Remy. Marseille -> QPR. Undisc/about 8 mill
-Not sure what to make of this one. Must be a money grabber haha. Will be interesting to see him play in the prem having drawn so much attention from Newcastle over the past couple of years
Not too much else happening yet. Been a fairly boring window for the top of the prem at least
Its tried and tested ala Fastino Asprilla that the January signing usually spells disaster or indeed Andy Cole for my beloved United back in the mid 90s.
I personally think that for a top club to go break the bank on someone to turn their team around usually spells problems.
Doesn't look like Zaha will be leaving in this window, Arsenal and Utd have both expressed interest but Utd have come out and said they won't move for him until the Summer which is good for all parties and Arsenal have just tied up Walcott's contract so there's really no reason to spend any money on the wings for them.
As for transfers in for us, we've had Jacob Butterfield and Alex Nimley in on loan from Premiership clubs, we're also very close to signing DJ Campbell I believe as our bid has been confirmed and DJ has expressed a desire to play under Holloway. I think we'll be making one more loan signing after DJ's deal is complete and I think it might be for Tom Huddlestone. Apparently we're being linked with Louis Saha now too... It's funny what a bit of good form does for the rumour mill.
Quote from: Trumpers on January 19, 2013, 05:10:57 AM
Its tried and tested ala Fastino Asprilla that the January signing usually spells disaster or indeed Andy Cole for my beloved United back in the mid 90s.
I personally think that for a top club to go break the bank on someone to turn their team around usually spells problems.
Was Cole really a bad signing for United?
There have been big successes in the January window too - look at Papiss Cisse, Carlos Tevez (West Ham), Nikica Jelavic, Evra and Vidic, hell even Samba and Hangeland were January signings.
Quote from: Dorling on January 20, 2013, 06:07:38 AM
Was Cole really a bad signing for United?
There have been big successes in the January window too - look at Papiss Cisse, Carlos Tevez (West Ham), Nikica Jelavic, Evra and Vidic, hell even Samba and Hangeland were January signings.
Cole was a bad signing in that window. He went onto play well for United in subsquent years, but the price tag and label and his consistency where problems for him for the remainder of that season as an intregal part of Utds attack.
As said, spending big money is foolish because you don't have the luxury of a few months of getting them to gel with the team, friendlies, all of that sort of stuff, they have to start right now and that's difficult.
Quote from: Not Rob on January 20, 2013, 10:10:23 AM
As said, spending big money is foolish because you don't have the luxury of a few months of getting them to gel with the team, friendlies, all of that sort of stuff, they have to start right now and that's difficult.
And to be fair in both the Asprilla and Cole cases signing a big name striker for a lot of money which DEMANDED they play I believe cost both teams the titles in those years.
I actually thought the transfer window was a bit dull this time around haha. But who did you guys think was the best signing made in the transfer window?
QPR, Newcastle etc made many which are possibilities. Arsenal fans might be overjoyed they don't need Santos anymore. But I think the best might be Daniel Sturridge. Young, English and a pretty decent finisher. Can be the focal point for Liverpool and allow Suarez to work around him. Means Gerrard has a couple of people he can pass to as well. I think he really helps Liverpool as a team.
Zaha, sold him for around £15 million and then kept him for the rest of the season, meanwhile he continues to get good competitive football for the rest of the season at a level that is closest to the Premiership in England. Great move by both teams
Falcao (from Athletico) to Monaco. Gotta commend the dude, easily the best pure striker in the world today (counting Ronaldo and Messi and more wingers/hybrid players) goes to a recently promoted team with a fuck tonne of money to try and build his own legacy, rather go to a world powerhouse. Props.
Neymar (from Santos) to Barca....well the same cant be said about Neymar....but damn kinda excited to see him and Messi play together, if they can even do that,
Fernando Llorente (from Bilbao) to Juventus
Kolo Toure (from Man City) to Liverpool
Daniel Carvajal (from Leverkusen) to Real Madrid
Ricardo Carvalho (from Real Madrid) to Monaco
James Rodrigues & Joao Mountinho (from Porto) to Monaco
Fulham have signed riether to a permanent deal as well as getting Derek boateng and amorebietta on free transfers. With steklenberg confirming on Twitter he has signed as well I'm very pleasuring our activity
Amorebietta and Hageland.....damn. Wall back there.
Some of the rumours we've had for Palace have been ludicrous. We're expected to dish out 80k a week for Darren Bent, apparently...
Surprised they dont pillage Champ talent. Jordan Rhodes perhaps
I think Tom Ince, Will Buckley and Charlie Austin are a real possibiltiy.
Anyone think Bales gonna go to Real?
If Ronaldo stays.....Bale/Ronaldo on opposing wings would be pretty terrifying, as well as very diving.
Steklenberg signs a 4 year deal. Chuffed with this too
Gonna be grabbing some of Fulhams backline for fantasy next year, damn gonna be tough to score against.
& Holy Monaco.
trying to get Evra and Terry
Quote from: Cory on June 04, 2013, 02:08:49 PM
Falcao (from Athletico) to Monaco. Gotta commend the dude, easily the best pure striker in the world today (counting Ronaldo and Messi and more wingers/hybrid players) goes to a recently promoted team with a fuck tonne of money to try and build his own legacy, rather go to a world powerhouse. Props.
Is this sarcasm? You have to commend the dude for going to a team with a shit load of money and no real pedigree just because he doesn't have to pay tax there? I bet he didn't know a single one of his prospective team mates names - you know, the guys that got Monaco promoted and will now be kicked to the curb in place of a bunch of mercenaries on a cash hunt.
I think he's done himself a massive injustice. This isn't about building a legacy at all. He could have gone to a team with tradition and made is own legacy there. This is just having stacks of cash waved in his face. It costs Monaco £1.05m per year to pay a player £1m net, the rest of the league have to pay over £3m to give a player that kind of net wage.
I've massively gone off him for this move. They average 5000 fans even in winning the league! More people come to watch Norwich!
+1
Quote from: Dorling on June 05, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
Is this sarcasm? You have to commend the dude for going to a team with a shit load of money and no real pedigree just because he doesn't have to pay tax there? I bet he didn't know a single one of his prospective team mates names - you know, the guys that got Monaco promoted and will now be kicked to the curb in place of a bunch of mercenaries on a cash hunt.
I think he's done himself a massive injustice. This isn't about building a legacy at all. He could have gone to a team with tradition and made is own legacy there. This is just having stacks of cash waved in his face. It costs Monaco £1.05m per year to pay a player £1m net, the rest of the league have to pay over £3m to give a player that kind of net wage.
I've massively gone off him for this move. They average 5000 fans even in winning the league! More people come to watch Norwich!
That may be true, but its a club that doesnt have a rich history, no pun intended. They had the one year in like 04 where they had a very good Champions league run but can you think of any Monaco legends? Guily? maybe Nonda....but other than that their a rich, fresh football club. The money thing....he deserves to be paid that much...hes THE best striker in the world (maybe Ibrah could contend)
Id rather him go there and make himself a Monaco legend with the guys their bringing in (Mangala, Rodrigues, Moutinho, lord knows who else) than join one of the "powerhouses" and be tossed into the mix, sit on the bench more than he needs to like EVERYONE else does. Man City, Real, Barca, Bayern, ect. all those teams have contenders just in their fucking bench & reserves (Dzeko, Tevez, Balotelli, Rodwell, Nasri for City, Kaka, Coentrao, Essien, Marcelo for Real, Fabregas, Song for Barca).
I for one am very glad to see him go to a team thats not so clogged up with talent than do what the norm is and join one of the elite 5 (City, United, Barca, Real, Bayern) money wise LIKE EVERYONE.
Falcao to Monaco sounds 1 billion times better than Falcao to Real or Bayern.
Falcao to Monaco sounds like big rich fish in a small bond. If you have the ambition to prove that you're the best in the world, you don't go to a Div 2 French team (the 5th, possibly 6th strongest league in Europe and weaker than the one he left) that gets less fans than IPSWICH TOWN. And as for the 'guys they're bringing in' that's symptomatic of exactly what is wrong with football when you get these mega rich dudes involved. The players that deserve the chance to represent the club in the top flight won't get to because of these rich dudes who don't give a crap taking their places.
It's a money thing, 100%. He's moved to a smaller club in a shittier league because he can line his pockets, nothing else.
We've apparently usurped Newcastle and Celtic and are close to signing Amido Balde for £2.6m.... Great, we need a team of unknown players.
On a brighter note though, we're still being linked with Tom Ince, Matt Phillips, Chris McCann and Liam Bridcutt
Arsenal and Fellani rumours, LOVE IT. He'd be perfect and what we've been missing since Viera/Song to an extent.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone applaud a player choosing money over history before. The financial doping in football is ridiculous. The financial fair play rules don't go far enough in my opinion, but they still need to be enforced properly.
Arsenal apparently have loads of money to throw at the team this summer, does anyone think they will actually use it?
Quote from: Kirk on June 08, 2013, 02:54:16 AM
Arsenal apparently have loads of money to throw at the team this summer, does anyone think they will actually use it?
I wish I could put a lot into it, but we've "had money" for 2 seasons now and nothing.
Seems Fellaini, Higuain, and Rooney are the most popular rumors going at the moment.
Quote from: Cory on June 10, 2013, 12:49:26 AM
I wish I could put a lot into it, but we've "had money" for 2 seasons now and nothing.
Seems Fellaini, Higuain, and Rooney are the most popular rumors going at the moment.
So David Dunn, Carlton Cole and Victor Anichebe it is then...
Titus Bramble too.
Toivonen from PSV to Norwich
Fernandinho & Navas signed for City, good signings, must be outgoing players this season. I mean there is squad depth, and then there is oversaturation.
Andy Carrol signs with West Ham
André Schürrle from bayern leverkusen to Chelsea
Carrol...what a waste of money for Liverpool...
Looks like prized Isco is going to Real Madrid, Arshavin has left Arsenal for Zenit St. Petersburg, Carlos Tevez has signed with Juventus, Mignolet from Sunderland to Liverpool, and looks like beast forward Wilfred Bony has been linked with Swansea.
Some really interesting signings so far. I think next season, with the new managers and new players, could be one of the most interesting for a while.
Hearing Spurs have signed Confed cup star Paulinho as well.
Burnley have been surprisingly busy, bringing in four new players... all goalkeepers. Which is good, since we had none. But need to start looking to replace the key players that have left, like McCann (to Wigan) and Paterson (to Bolton I think).
Moyes has failed to keep hold of two of Utd's best coaches and has replaced them with Giggs and Phil Neville. Scholes said no to the job (which he accepted the last time he retired) because he doesn't want to be associated with Moyes' short tenure at Utd... or it might have been to spend time with his family. Moyes also seems to be intent on wasting £20million on Baines. I like Baines, but that is a lot of money to pay for a player who is only a couple of years younger than Evra and isn't really any better.
Utd usually do their business quite late in the window, so I'm not worried yet. It's not a particularly encouraging start, though.
Palace are signing Spain's U20 captain Jose Campana for about £1.5m, he's been called one of the best prospects Spain have and is likened in potential to Fabregas.
Thiago signs for Bayern.
25 million for Fabregas to go to utd.
Not a stupid bid, but it's whether he will leave Spain and not return to arsenal.
If he does come back to England he's an even bigger cunt.
Quote from: Cory on July 15, 2013, 10:18:26 PM
If he does come back to England he's an even bigger cunt.
Well at least he can win this time when he is in England...
Big update (maybe some duplicates):
- Modibo Diakite from Lazio to Sunderland --- Guy is a monster, 6'4 and crazy athletic. For sure starter.
- Ricky van Wolfswinkel from Lisbon to Norwich --- record fee for Norwich, they got a guy who could net 15
- Mario Götze from Dortmund to Bayern --- The future of german midfield left in a head scratcher.
- George Boyd from Peterborough to Hull City --- Grizzled vetran to get some EPL experience
- Maynor Figueroa from Wigan to Hull City -- Super athletic beast from Wigan, instant starter in Hulls backline
- Kolo Toure from Man City to Liverpool --- Slightly above average defenders to fill in for reitiring Carragher
- Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang from St. Etienne to Dortmund - HUGE signing, the guy was insane last season.
- Nicolas Anelka from Juventus to West Brom - Would like to see if he'll start or come off the bench
- Nathan Redmond from Birmingham to Norwich -- Super pacy midfielder, could do some damage if given minutes.
- Jérémy Toulalan from Malaga to Monaco - Always a big fan, superb holding midfielder and tackler...oh Arsenal....
- Mark Schwarzer from Fulham to Chelsea - Insurance if Cech goes down?
- Jozy Altidore from AZ to Sunderland - Had a HUGE season last year...get him in your Fantasy teams
- Henrikh Mkhitaryan from Shaktar to Dortmund -- One of the top big names in a small market, Gotze replacement
- David Villa from Barcelona to Athletico Madrid -- Hmmm, how much does Villa have left?
- Grant Holt from Norwich to Wigan - Hmm, never thought Holt would leave Norwich, very dependable striker
- Mario Gomez from Bayern to Fiorentina - Gomez sucks.
- Arouna Kone from Wigan to Everton - Kone is like a newer version of Saha, pretty good scorer but not sold on
- Wilfried Bony from Vitesse to Swansea - IMO will be signing of the season. Bony will finish top 5 in scoring in EPL
- Gerard Deulofeu on Loan from Barcelona to Everton - Amazing young talent, just not sure how many minutes
- Martin Olsson from Blackburn to Norwich - Solid, athletic wing back
- Angelo Ogbonna from Torino to Juventus - One of the best young CB's in the world, he becomes elite this season
- Victor Wanyama from Celtic to Southampton - Not too sure on the fee, but a stud at holding midfield
- Richard Dunne from Villa to QPR - Probably didnt have the gas to keep up with EPL pace.
- Edinson Cavani from Napoli to PSG - One of the elite strikers in Europe to PSG. Him and Ibrah....damn.
- Kevin Strootman from PSV to Roma - Crazy good dutch midfielder, kinda like a Gerrard. Good signing.
- Maicon from Man City to Roma - Never got time with City, nice signing for Roma...kinda lost a step tho
- Stevan Jovetic from Fiorentina to Man City - On top of Navas, HUGE signing for City. Again, wonder how many minutes he'll get. probably another elite player eating minutes off the bench....its whats wrong with footy these days.
Often gets brought up a lot and I was wondering your guys' thoughts. Do you agree with the concept of a transfer window? Do you agree but don't think it should extend beyond the start of the season? And what about the January transfer window?
I can't really remember a time when it wasn't about in England but I find the extension into the season at the beginning really odd and frustrating. You can still have players wanting out in your squad for the first few games and might still be trying to bring in a key signing. I don't understand why they let it happen, especially into the Prem season (I could understand if it went a week or two into the football league season because the Prem season was the cut-off date).
Where do you folks stand?
I think the transfer window should be 1st June to 31st July and the January transfer window should be abolished. If your squad gets to the point where you have no cover then loan someone or play a youth or reserve. The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion by the likes of Sky Sports who have simply cashed in on the idea of "deadline day" and this is the reason why too much money is spent during the season. The January transfer window has seen so many clubs jack their prices up way too high because if you need to buy a player from another club in January, the likelihood is you either can't wait till the end of the season or there are holes. Case and point, Zaha was never worth up to £20m when United bought him.
I like it because it forces managers and clubs to plan better. You can't just buy someone in November when your squad proves too small or not good enough. I remember when there was no window and stuff was kind of random. You would never get injury crisis' and be forced to blood the youngsters as much as now, epecially with the 25 man squad.
The downside is it increases prices and leads teams to panic buy (especially Jan) but then again if you had a long term plan in the first place...
Overall I'd rather have it than not.
Transfer Window is amazing
I love the transfer window and deadline days are my favourite days of the year
QuoteJim White's famous yellow Deadline Day tie has been accepted into the National Football Museum in Manchester.
Its famous!
The excitement of the day is awesome. Who is going where? Will anyone pull out? Are city finally going to spend 150mill to sign Messi?
If I am off work, I find myself sitting and watching it.
Although, going into the start of the season, as a Manager I would want my team settled and not want anymore tinkering. if it couldn't be done in 6 weeks prior, then why do it now?
The January one Is fine with me. Players get injured, fatigued, sometimes a team needs a quick boost.
I wouldn't have it any other way!
We've signed
Dwight Gayle
Kevin Philips
Stephen Dobbie
Jerome Thomas
Jose Campana (Spanish U21 captain)
Elliot Grandin
Apparently the owner wants another 3 or 4 players. Interestingly, none of them are defenders... 2 wingers, 2 strikers and 2 attacking midfielders so far. Hopefully 2 centre backs and 2 full backs!
Bale to Real for 105 million + player
Quote from: Cory on August 02, 2013, 08:39:19 AM
Bale to Real for 105 million + player
Far from confirmed at this point. Would make a joke of financial fair play if it goes through I think. He's not worth that kind of money.
No human being is worth that much money...
People probably said the same about £80mil figures and such a few years ago. Still though, Neymar £50mil, Bale £100+ mil, doesn't make much sense.
I've said it about ALL of these transfer figures going around. The fact you can spend enough money that could be better spent sorting out some of our every-day real life issues on a bloke that is good at kicking a ball totally baffles me
COME ON SUAREZ
Quote from: Cory on August 07, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
COME ON SUAREZ
Your more likely to buy his bite imprint than the player...
Quote from: Cory on August 07, 2013, 10:38:35 AM
COME ON SUAREZ
Even if Suarez does move....................
Yeah!
One player wont make a team, and Arsenal are a known selling club. So try and build a team.
Wish i could find the photo, because it necessarily isn't a bad thing with the profit they made, but just look at transfers in/out this summer.
However...
I would love for Suarez to move to Arsenal to play for a 'champions league club' only for them to lose in the playoff game! ha!
Suarez would be the perfect Van Persie replacement, tho a year too late.
He's a terrible human being, but he'd add a much needed shot of aggression to a very soft team, and a club thats a shadow of their early 2000's self.
Plus, having him link up with play makers like Cazorla and Arteta, he'd had a lot more creativity in the middle than what he had at Liverpool, plus with Walcott always taking the wide backs out of the play, it'd give Suarez more room up top.
The sad thing though, is that Suarez will not make arsenal. Better spending 40mill on 4 good players
We won't get him and we will have missed out on other good players that would have benefit us because we've focussed on him too much.
Could have had Bony or Soldado or Negredo by now.
I don't really want him, and if the idea is to play him central and play Walcott wide then we will lose Walcott because he doesn't want to play wide (and in my opinion is better placed through the middle).
Remy on loan from QPR to Newcastle
Taarabt on loan from QPR to Fulham
Gervinho from Arsenal to Roma (WHO paid money for this guy)
Emenike from Spartak to Fenerbache
Quote from: Cory on August 09, 2013, 12:48:21 PM
Gervinho from Arsenal to Roma (WHO paid money for this guy)
The guy that managed him in France and got the kind of form out him that convinced Arsenal to buy him in the first place.
We're apparently about to sign Chamakh... Not sure if that's good
Quote from: Providence Diamond on August 10, 2013, 02:27:15 AM
We're apparently about to sign Chamakh... Not sure if that's good
He likes to play with a scarf from memory...
Quote from: Providence Diamond on August 10, 2013, 02:27:15 AM
We're apparently about to sign Chamakh... Not sure if that's good
LOL, Not good at all....had maybe 3 good games in 3 seasons at Arsenal. VERY lazy player, think a Berbatov that can't score.
Arsenal set to sign Luis Gustavo from Bayern for 16 million. What an incredible signing that would be, would answer our holding midfield woes, but question who'd play with Arteta and Wilshere.
Quote from: Cory on August 11, 2013, 11:45:27 AM
Arsenal set to sign Luis Gustavo from Bayern for 16 million. What an incredible signing that would be, would answer our holding midfield woes, but question who'd play with Arteta and Wilshere.
That has been speculation over here and meant to be a no go. May be different news reports.
Today was also throwing around loads of different things...
Like Suarez to Spurs regardless of whether Bale stays or goes!
Good news for... well, me. And possibly Blade,
Darren Bent is on his way to Palace, initially a loan deal to move upto a transfer if we stay up.
We've signed a player called Marange who's on a free after leaving Bordeaux. We're also very close to signing Yossi Benayoun apparently
Sorry Rob, looks like Bent could be going to Fulham:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23711266 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23711266)
Yup, no big deal, apparently it was a done deal last night and htis morning but Bent is known for being a bit of a greedy bastard. I know someone who knows the details of why he left Sunderland like he did and he is a bit of an egomaniac, but a great player.
We still signed a left back called Marange and Benayoun looks a real possibility.
Also seems that Gustavo is going to Wolfsburg instead of Arsenal. Will they get ANY of their big targets this window? ha
Holloway must have a lot of faith in his defense, personally, I don't the likes of Gabbidon are premiership level. Maybe he will strengthening that area next.
Quote from: Jerry McClean on August 15, 2013, 10:17:55 AM
Also seems that Gustavo is going to Wolfsburg instead of Arsenal. Will they get ANY of their big targets this window? ha
How do we keep losing to these smaller clubs? Its so irritating. WOLFSBURG?!
Quote from: Cory on August 15, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
How do we keep losing to these smaller clubs? Its so irritating. WOLFSBURG?!
Probably has more to do with not needing to relocate to another country, also, he'll be getting guaranteed games at Wolfsburg which will help secure his place in the national side.
Arsenal do this every year, whoever does their negotiating these days is doing a piss poor job
Quote from: Cory on August 15, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
How do we keep losing to these smaller clubs? Its so irritating. WOLFSBURG?!
Because your not a big club...
Quote from: Rob on August 15, 2013, 06:49:51 AM
Yup, no big deal, apparently it was a done deal last night and htis morning but Bent is known for being a bit of a greedy bastard. I know someone who knows the details of why he left Sunderland like he did and he is a bit of an egomaniac, but a great player.
We still signed a left back called Marange and Benayoun looks a real possibility.
Kind of really happy he left, but he could have ruined Palace because he is a greedy cunt.
He wanted to go back to London before we signed him from Sunderland, so moving to the midlands was a logical step?
If he has the service and on his day can be awesome, but he is Lazy.
But looks like he is only moving to Fulham on a year loan?
QuoteTottenham have reportedly made Roma winger Erik Lamela their top priority signing this summer.
Where have spurs got all this money from?
Or are they still pre-empting the sale of Bale to cover Paulinho, Soldado and possibly this guy?
Etienne Capoue to Spurs from Tolouse
Darrent Bent from Villa to Fulham on LOAN
Luis Gustavo from Bayern to Wolfsburg
Happy to get bent and Taarabt on loan as lpan deals encourage players to put a shift in. Apparently we are in for Scott dann from Blackburn as well as Scott Parker. Clearly Khan won't dish out the mony until he sees the results.
Jason Puncheon due to join from Southampton today which is a great move as he was brilliant for them last season, fantastic winger, I suspect he and Bolasie are due to be our main wingers.
Benayoun sounds like it's getting closer and closer.
We've also had a bid of £3m rejected for Aaron Cresswell the Ipswich defender but I suspect another bid will be made.
Scott Parker to Fulham undisclosed but very good move to strengthen the midfield.
We are also in for Clement chantome as well as interest shown in cresswell
Quote from: M.D.K. on August 20, 2013, 02:20:26 PM
Scott Parker to Fulham undisclosed but very good move to strengthen the midfield.
We are also in for Clement chantome as well as interest shown in cresswell
Scott Parker is an awesome signing. Thank fuck he didnt head to QPR for the money.
Parker's DECENT for Fulham, could do well this year
Lol, still NOTHING for Arsenal.
To any already weak squad that with the "100 million" in reserve to spend, losing opening week to a Villa team we NEED to be able to beat....AND two very vital pieces in Arteta and Ox going down, STILL no signings.
I hope Fenerbache destroy us and something severely drastic happens from Thursday-Saturday
Quote from: Cory on August 20, 2013, 09:33:07 PM
Lol, still NOTHING for Arsenal.
To any already weak squad that with the "100 million" in reserve to spend, losing opening week to a Villa team we NEED to be able to beat....AND two very vital pieces in Arteta and Ox going down, STILL no signings.
I hope Fenerbache destroy us and something severely drastic happens from Thursday-Saturday
If I were an arsenal fan I would kick you in the nuts for saying that. Bad fan, bad.
Yes no signings. Yes you are no longer a big club.
However you have been lazy in the transfer window. It was all focused on Suarez. And on paper Liverpool are a bigger club than arsenal. In reality, you level peg.
Your bids have been insulting to other teams.
15mil and you would sign cabaye.
2 mill more and you would have signed gustavo.
£40m + £1 for Suarez! That was a joke. If you are really wanting to sign him, pay the £50m Liverpool want.
Arsenal have no aspiration, when will the fans realise that?
Quote from: Blade on August 21, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
Your bids have been insulting to other teams.
15mil and you would sign cabaye.
2 mill more and you would have signed gustavo.
£40m + £1 for Suarez! That was a joke. If you are really wanting to sign him, pay the £50m Liverpool want.
Couldnt agree more.
Quote from: Blade on August 21, 2013, 01:31:06 PM
And on paper Liverpool are a bigger club than arsenal. In reality, you level peg.
While I agree that our transfer business has been lazy and that Cory shouldn't wish for us to lose, I don't agree with that.
If I didn't know you weren't I'd say you weren't I'd say you were a Liverpool fan! Pool haven't won the league since 1990. Yes I know they won the champions league but since they were last the best club in England Arsenal have won the league 4 times and been generally ahead of them. 20 years ago maybe, but now the 'big 4' in England no longer includes Liverpool. Yes, Arsenal are on the edge of that big 4 these days (despite the fact in the last 10 years we've actually finished higher than 4th 5 times and won the league), but we are still in the next level up from Liverpool.
Whether that remains the case at the end of this season, who knows. It pains me to say it, but the team with the best chance of getting into the top 4 is Spurs. Liverpool are aiming for 5th again I think.
I do not disagree with you.
The thing is, it is all based on the past. Liverpool were great in the 80's. Arsenal more recent. I don't have a bad word to say about either club, the results recently are banter to me.
However On paper, I still say Liverpool are the bigger club, but thats just history. At the moment, you are level pegging.
Nothing against either club, and its not that I look into history. If I did, Villa would still be a big club because of the european cup win in 82 (coincidently the year I was born!)
I have to agree with dorling that arsenal are a bigger club than Liverpool
The thing that people are seeming to avoid the notion of is that these bids and rumours are more than likely a way of appeasing the fans. Maybe they still don't have money but if you know you can make a bid that will be turned down, the fans get hope, it looks like arsenal are actively bidding but in reality, you aren't spending money.
Wenger follows this up with an arrogant interview saying he doesn't need to improve the club. You know you have a crisis when your first choice striker says arsenal need a new striker which is essentially admission that he isn't good enough!
If I were an arsenal fan, I'd be pretty frustrated.
At least Khan has told jol, he can have funds if he proves himself so as long as we are comfortable come January, jol can splash the cash
Well the beeb is now reporting that they're after Benzema and Di Maria. Personally I can't see why Madrid would let Benzema go having let Higuain go. They're not a Pep side with no striker after all!
Someone also told me with Casillias wanting out of Madrid he might go to Arsenal.
But as it's Arsenal I don't believe either rumour lol. They're probably sign Flamini whose been training with them and then one other!
Casillas will probably leave Madrid, he wasn't being played under Mourinho
Some signings f the past week:
Sergio Romero from Sampdoria to Monaco on LOAN
Pablo Osvaldo from Roma to Southhampton
Scott Parker from Spurs to Fulham
Aly Cissoko from Valencia to Liverpool on LOAN
Johan Elmander from Galatasary to Norwich
Jason Puncheon from Southampton to Crystal Palace on LOAN
Scott Sinclair from Man City to West Brom on LOAN
It looks like Willian has chosen Chelsea reserves over Spurs, so I would say that Bale to Real Madrid is probably off.
Scott Sinclair proving his move to Shitty in the first place was so worth it...lol
Outside the money aspect some of these kids moving to City and Chelsea just astounds me...you will NEVER get a game.
On that topic, Moses is probably going to be leaving Chelsea.
Eto'o from Ahnzi to Chelsea
Adem Ljajic from Fiorentina to Roma
Vlad Chirches from Steaua to Spurs (HUGE signing, guy is a monster)
Christian Eriksen from Ajax to Spurs
Erik Lamela from Roma to Spurs
Christian Atsu from Porto to Chelsea
Gareth Bale from Spurs to Real Madrid
Martín Demichelis from Athletico Madrid to Man City
Kaká from Real Madrid to AC Milan
Tiago Ilori from Sporting Lisbon to Liverpool
Mamadou Sakho from PSG to Liverpool
Victor Moses from Chelsea to Liverpool on LOAN
Jack Hunt from Huddersfield Town to Crystal Palace
Adrian Mariappa from Reading to Crystal Palace
Stephen Ireland from Villa to Stoke on LOAN
Barry Bannan from Villa to Crystal Palace
Emiliano Viviano from Palermo to Arsenal on LOAN
Mesut Özil from Real to ARSENAL
Ozil still not 100% confirmed at this point.
Quote from: Dorling on September 02, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
Ozil still not 100% confirmed at this point.
Is now!
Looks like plenty of last minute deals going through now. I'm going to have to check the list tomorrow morning and see if anything went through really late! Hopefully Pep didn't go to Palace...
United sign Fellaini.
I love the Ozil signing, but doesnt get Wenger off the hot seat, Viviano as well but:
Ozil fills what need? Attacking midfielder? We have that in Cazorla (who will obviously move to wing hybrid to play with Ozil which will be a very lethal, creative attack)
Viviano is a better keeper than Szczęsny, but was this a need? Szczęsny is a careless keeper, but I wouldn't classify him as a weakness, he usually plays top notch, and is a top 10 keeper in the prem most weeks, so Wengers fascination to upgrade the keeper spot over obvious areas that need improvement is a little head scratching.
Backline, we need depth and a upgrade at wing back. Jenkinson is good depth, but not a starter. There are a lot of quality, young wing backs in Holland we coulda grabbed for under 8 million, but no moves.
HOLDING MIDFIELDER. We still haven't replaced Alex Song, which needs to be a huge area of concern. Ramsey cant play that role, Wilshere cant either (or stay healthy, we should sell him while some team may still pay out the ass for him) and Rosicky/Arteta cant, to weak. We need a destroyer of worlds here, god, Fellani would have been perfect. We NEED to adress this area come January.
Depth at striker. Giroud is the hottest striker in the prem not named Sturridge at the moment, but he showed last season that he can suck at any minute. The combo of him and Podolski is good, but with Podolski hurt, we needed to land the Demba Ba signing that was rumored. Now our forwards sit at Giroud, and YAYA SANOGO...who? Walcott can play here, but hes much more beneficial on the wing, if Giroud goes down, we're gonna have to resort to what Swansea did last year, and have Ozil play in the Michu role or something.
Flamini can do the holding midfield job. He showed himself to be a really good organiser against Spurs. All about depth for Arsenal. Their first 11 is pretty class.
Some of the deadline day deals, although I know Cory's already mentioned some of them:
Morgan Amalfitano [Marseille - West Brom] Loan
Victor Anichebe [Everton - West Brom] £6m
Marko Arnautovic [Werder Bremen - Stoke] Undisclosed
Barry Bannan [Aston Villa - Crystal Palace] Undisclosed
Gareth Barry [Man City - Everton] Loan
Fabio Borini [Liverpool - Sunderland] Loan
Andrea Dossena [Napoli - Sunderland] Undisclosed
Marouane Fellaini [Everton - Man Utd] £27.5m
Adlene Guedioura [Nottingham Forest - Crystal Palace] Undisclosed
Stephen Ireland [Aston Villa - Stoke] Loan
Cameron Jerome [Stoke - Crystal Palace] Loan
Kaka [Real Madrid - AC Milan] Free
Libor Kozak [Lazio - Aston Villa] £7m
Niko Kranjcar [Dynamo Kiev - QPR] Loan
Romelu Lukaku [Chelsea - Everton] Loan
Adrian Mariappa [Reading - Crystal Palace] Undisclosed
James McCarthy [Wigan - Everton] Undisclosed
Victor Moses [Chelsea - Liverpool] Loan
Peter Odemwingie [West Brom - Cardiff] £2.25m
Mesut Ozil [Real Madrid - Arsenal] £42.4m
Nick Powell [Manchester United - Wigan] Loan
Mamadou Sakho [Paris St-Germain - Liverpool] £18m
Stephane Sessegnon [Sunderland - West Brom] Undisclosed
Alvaro Vazquez [Getafe - Swansea] Loan
Emiliano Viviano [Palmero - Arsenal] Loan
Elsad Zverotic [Young Boys - Fulham] Undisclosed
Some potentially really good deals there. I'm actually annoyed it's the international break now because I want to see how all the clubs are affected by things!
We signed Kightly on loan from Stoke. Great coup imo and a player who should fit into our system well.
Bannan was for £2million.
We also signed Jimmy Kebe from Reading for £2m and Jack Hunt from Uddersfield for £2m
I think the best move was Lukaku to Everton. I have no idea how Martinez managed to convince Chelsea to do that.
Worst deal was Fellaini to Utd for more than his release clause. Utd's transfer dealings were a complete (and very public) farce and they've ended up paying way over the odds for a mediocre midfielder. I hope he proves me wrong.
Yeah really like that Lukaku move, he's a beast.
Well with it all done and dusted and settled in who do you think had the best transfer window? The worst? And were you pleased with your team's business?
For Forest I've got to be pleased we signed 9 good players early doors. It's just left me a bit flat that we bid for 4 players on deadline day but decided clubs were charging too much (I like the fact we know a value and stick with it). But losing Pep to Palace was also frustrating--despite the guy's faults. As we're in the championship, though, we've got the loan window to sort things out and overall it was good and has left us with a strong squad and probably the best defence in the championship!
Arsenal I don't think had the best but I think people are being harsh. Ozil would improve ANY team. I think Flamini works as the defensive organiser. The kid up front bossed the U20 World Cup (I think it was) so is one for the future. I think they're trying to sign another free agent striker (but as they're battling with other European clubs they might miss out). But that would leave them, IMO, another backup centre back short. Not as bad as people made out!
I think Liverpool probably had the best window. Signed some quality players throughout the team and kept Suarez who...despite being a ****...is rather good at playing football.
Id agree Liverpool had the best, Spurs & United had the worst and Arsenal did well.
Firstly, United needed desparatly an attacking mid as they dont want to use Kagawa and ended up settling for a holding midfielder (Felliani is great, love him) but they have Carrick there. At least they kept Rooney which was a win.
Spurs lost their best player, and overpaid to try and compensate. Im glad Bale is no longer in the Prem to reak havoc, but lets look at who they brought in. I think Chirches was their best signing, him and Vertongen will be a VERY good CB paring, but outside of that usless. Lamela is good, but wont be able to replace Bale and I think will struggle his first year adjusting to the Prem, Capoue is alright, and Eriksen is good for the future, but its a shame hell have to compete for minutes, could start and be a bigger impact on many other teams in the Prem.
Arsenal got Viviano who has been one of the better young keepers in world football for some time, and tho I like Szczesny hes too hot and cold and his aggressiveness usually bites him in the ass. Viviano will be a very solid keeper that wont have mistakes and should be a solid signing, I expect us to sign him after his loan is up. Ozil tho was the signing of the window for any team, made Arsenal from a 4-6 to have a chance to push for 3rd or better. Him and Cazorla will be almost second to none creatively in the Prem and if Giroud can stay hot we could steal some points against more complete teams like Chelsea and Man U.
But Liverpool dominate, spend money on class and added great depth. Cissohko/Illori will be fantastic defensive depth, and Sakho is a brilliant, tank of a CB, will fit right in in the Prem and I expect a nice year there, Liverpool are going to be fantastic defensivly. Enrique/Agger/Sakho/Johnson with Toure/Skrtel/Cissohko may be the best d in the prem. Got good depth with Moses, and kept Suarez for the time being, who will net them goals, and Sturridge is ON FIRE.
Looking at some of the prices players went for, and the fact that Spurs spent only something like two million more than what we had going out... are you nuts? One of the worst windows from Tottenham? Soldado useless? Capoue looked really good before he got hurt, Eriksen looks like a future star, Chadli is a strong winger, Lamela I love what I've seen...
Saying we overpaid is silly. We spent a lot but not more than our means. We recouped almost everything.
Well I suppose I was only counting deadline day/last week deals. Soldado will be class, but the fact that they loss Bale (inevitable) makes them the worst. Man U kept Rooney, Liverpool kept Suarez, Spurs lost Bale.
Eriksen does look great, but like I said for how much they paid, hes going to fight for starting minutes with Paulinho/Sigurdsson/Dembele so his impact this season, I dont know.
Lamela is pretty good, I hhave him on my fantasy team, but 30 million for a guy who odds say (even AVB said hell struggle early to adapt) to replace a guy like Bale who would single handedly win games, I just see this as a poor, expensive window for Spurs.
Yeah, hate Tottenham but have to disagree with you there Cory.
Eriksen, Lamela, Paulinho, Capoue - all very, very good. Soldado is a brilliant striker and should be wearing an Arsenal shirt right now.
The only thing that will work against Tottenham this year is too many BIG signings in such a short period - they will have problems gelling which will see them finish behind Arsenal for the 18th year in a row.
Also disagree on it being 'expensive' for Spurs. They shifted a few players out and their net spend is virtually zero. Bale is not an entire team - let's face it, they won naff all with him in the team and couldn't beat Arsenal, so who's to say they would have if he'd stayed? They wouldn't. And they wouldn't be able to have all of these new players (all full internationals, by the way) without selling him. Great business by Spurs all round - as soon as Real were interested Bale was gone.
I feel dirty sticking up for them.
Dont get me wrong, I think for the long term, those signings are great, but for this season (like you said, bringing in so many new faces, chemistry will be tough to establish), but for this current season I think Spurs will struggle, thus not bringing in guys who will make an immediate impact.
Why do they need to bring in a whole squad of players that will make an instant impact? The teams around them have not changed too much in terms of quality, except for Man City & Liverpool, so they still practically have the squad that competed for 4th spot last season. Paulinho and Soldado have made a great start to their seasons, and with the depth they already have, the likes of Erikson and Lamela don't need to be immediate successes. The only problem they may have is over reliance on Soldado, but Arsenal, Man United, and Chelsea are also in a similar boat, Liverpool too until Suarez is back from suspension. I'm also not massively keen on AVB shipping out all the British players, but then Rose and Townsend have started to break into the first team as well, with Rose pretty much guaranteed the left back spot with Ekotto leaving. They have done great business, sold their star players yes, but built a squad of young, talented players without breaking the bank balance.
Liverpool on the other hand, they have gone all out with the signings, and it some areas, they have over strengthened. Toure, Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, Illori, it's good to have depth, but there are going to be some unhappy players there. Aspas seems decent enough, not seen much of Alberto, but their squad player signings in my opinion. Moses on loan is a good deal, he'll fit in well with their style of play. I think they've done smart business, but I think Spurs did the better deals.
Spurs get my vote for the best summer wheeling and dealing.
Man United and Arsenal were kind of embarrassing themselves really, and both clubs showed that the managers could do with someone else to help with the signings. Then again, Newcastle showed the complete opposite haha.
Burnley made a great signing on deadline day, Michael Kightly should be a great fit for us, especially with Wallace out injured. Hopefully we can keep up our form, and although Vokes is doing well, I still would've liked a Charlie Austin/Danny Ings duo up front for us. Ah well.
I think Spurs look more like title contenders with the players they've bought in and without Bale than they did last year with Bale...
They have improved on shit players like Defoe, Adebayor, Parker and Huddlestone. That's always going to be a bonus.
Cory, I couldn't disagree with you more. I think Spurs had the best window. Bale's a highlights player and a luxury Spurs couldn't afford. Eriksen looks like their best signing (and not just based on one performance) but I would have happily had all of them at United. I think Chadli was probably their weakest signing, but he's still a much better squad player than they had on the wings last year. If Lennon and Lamela get injured, Townsend and Chadli look like perfectly good options (much better than Valencia and Young who both start for United every week). They need another right-back (Walker is an accident waiting to happen) and they could probably have done with another CB to cover their injury prone players, but their midfield looks very strong. I think they are serious top 4 contenders and Arsenal should be very worried considering how thin their squad is this season. I'd give Spurs 4/5.
Ozil is going to be a great player at Arsenal and certainly masks their failures in this window, but I think Flamini was the best signing they made. Arsenal don't really have a problem with creating opportunities, but they do have a problem bossing the centre of the pitch against strong teams and they have problems up front. Flamini will help plug the gaps in central midfield. Arsenal really needed to boost their numbers during the summer and have utterly failed to do that. The injuries are already piling up and it's only week 4. Despite the signing of Ozil (which really was a brilliant coup) I think Arsenal are going to have to choose between silverware and 4th place again. The transfer window was a failure for Arsenal, but Ozil makes it a very shiny, exciting failure... so I will give them 3/5.
Now I come on to my own team. United's transfer window was a disaster... and worse, it was an embarrassment. Moyes and co. have shown that they have no idea what they are doing in the transfer market. The targets were not a surprise, considering the fact that Moyes has never had money to work with before, but the way they went about their business ensured their utter failure. Don't get me wrong, Fellaini is a good signing and is exactly what we need in the centre of the park, but he should have been bought at the start of the window so that they could have focused on the real crisis areas on the wings. I wasn't looking for a superstar, just a couple of players who are better than Buttner (yes, I know he's a LB), Young, Valencia and Giggs. I would have liked to have seen the Rooney circus leave town as well. 1/5
One day to go until the window opens. And literally EVERYONE will want to strengthen their team in some way to boost promotion/European chances or chances of avoiding relegation. So who do you want your team to get/what areas do you want your team to strengthen?
For Forest we could still do with a clinical striker. We outplay teams a lot of the time but don't finish them off. Someone who could bring the goals would make us a cert for the playoffs IMO
January wants...Moyes Out...
I have 4 (very obvious) wants for January.
1. See Ian's reply.
2. At least 1 decent CM.
3. At least 1 decent winger.
4. Anderson, Young and Nani all packing their bags and heading elsewhere.
Can't believe United fans want Moyes out... Fans these days are getting worse than the chairmen.
For Burnley, we just need some depth! We've struggled, especially in midfield, with injuries and suspensions and probably not won games we should've won because we had to play some of our players out of position. So maybe some players on loan, a couple of midfielders, a winger and a striker. Preferably; Chalobah, Powell, Gnabry and Wickham.
Quote from: Flins. on January 01, 2014, 07:13:36 AM
Can't believe United fans want Moyes out... Fans these days are getting worse than the chairmen.
For Burnley, we just need some depth! We've struggled, especially in midfield, with injuries and suspensions and probably not won games we should've won because we had to play some of our players out of position. So maybe some players on loan, a couple of midfielders, a winger and a striker. Preferably; Chalobah, Powell, Gnabry and Wickham.
I think there is a lot to be said for the managers also attracting players to come play for them these days as well. You will always get the players who have the lure of playing in the Premier League who will sign for anyone 7-20 I'd say in the league. But to get those special players its the history of the club and the man at the helm which does it. There is no reason why United should have had such a wank transfer window back in the Summer other than we didn't prepare well enough and we spent money on a player who really...is worth about 3/4 of that...tops. I dont think Moyes is getting the best out of the players and he should have sold off half the side of underperformers this summer...including Rooney. Now dont get me wrong, Wayne is still a force, but had Sir Alex been in charge still he would have not taken any of this transfer request bullshit and got rid of him for a decent value.
I just dont think Moyes is cut out at this stage to have made the leap from Everton to Utd. The game has changed so much...and he isnt there.
It is fair to say that his summer transfer dealings were not the best, but I always attributed that to the whole transitional period of taking charge of the club. He dropped Phelan and Mulesteen (sp?) who were more than likely running the club during Fergies last couple of seasons. I think he needs at least until next January, let him have a proper summer transfer period where he can drop the dead weight and look to invest in the players he has had chance to have scouted through United' system. You're up to 6th now at the midway point with a weakened team, I think a top four finish, considering the circumstances would a be a decent start for Moyes. Tactically though, I agree, he is no Mourinho. Then again, that was never Fergies strong point either.
I would use our manager as an example of giving someone time, but I know how massive the difference is haha.
1. At least 1 new centre back.
2. A new left back
3. A new central midfielder
4. A new creative midfielder
5 & 6. New Strikers
7. Ruiz sold
8. Berbatov sold.
9. Hughes sold
10. Sidwell sold
Man U's lack of transfer business is more to do with the resignation of David Gill, who worked hand in hand with Fergie for signing players, than Moyes. Man U are starting to turn it on and are no way out of touch. Rooney has played very well too.
The idea that Moyes and Rooney leaving would benefit Man U in January is ridiculous in my opinion. Who will you get to replace him anyway? Nobody. Patience.
And Young was poor for the last two seasons under Ferguson but he's finally found his scoring boots again! So easy to predict that anybody that replaced Fergie would struggle initially and that Man U fans would be screaming for their heads, despite the fact it's a famous fact Fergie himself required faith in the beginning. If any club should know the benefit of giving someone a chance it should be Man U.
Quote from: Dorling on January 01, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
Man U's lack of transfer business is more to do with the resignation of David Gill, who worked hand in hand with Fergie for signing players, than Moyes. Man U are starting to turn it on and are no way out of touch. Rooney has played very well too.
The idea that Moyes and Rooney leaving would benefit Man U in January is ridiculous in my opinion. Who will you get to replace him anyway? Nobody. Patience.
And Young was poor for the last two seasons under Ferguson but he's finally found his scoring boots again! So easy to predict that anybody that replaced Fergie would struggle initially and that Man U fans would be screaming for their heads, despite the fact it's a famous fact Fergie himself required faith in the beginning. If any club should know the benefit of giving someone a chance it should be Man U.
I mentioned getting rid of Rooney in the summer not this window.
Yeah but he's been playing well and with Van Persie reverting to type (injured) it has meant that he was needed and keeping him was the right decision.
You did just lose to Spurs though. Hahahaha.
1. Diego Costa
2. Equlim Mangala (Need CB depth)
3. Sell Arteta and get a true holding midfielder. Sven Bender or Nemajda Matic preferably.
AVB is looking for work.
Moyes has made us completely dependent on a player who is playing for a move elsewhere. We can't get rid of Rooney now, but this was something that should have been dealt with in the summer. Also, if you believe the papers, Moyes is continuing to waste time and effort chasing an expensive replacement for Evra, who (with Rooney) is one of the only players having a good season for us. He'll buy Baines, Jagielka and Osman in January and our transformation will be complete.
Quote from: Dorling on January 01, 2014, 03:34:57 PM
Yeah but he's been playing well and with Van Persie reverting to type (injured) it has meant that he was needed and keeping him was the right decision.
You did just lose to Spurs though. Hahahaha.
Not at the expense of psychological morale...which we lost when we pleaded with him to stay in the summer.
Quote from: Kirk on January 01, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
AVB is looking for work.
.....really? I can't genuinely believe any Man U fan would actually want that? That's expert level delusion if anyone thinks AVB is the man to save a club.
Quote from: Dorling on January 02, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
.....really? I can't genuinely believe any Man U fan would actually want that? That's expert level delusion if anyone thinks AVB is the man to save a club.
Nope!
Wouldn't employ him in a million years. I actually would have liked us to go after Solksjaer originally or Brian Laudrap would be someone else I wouldn't have minded seeing.
Zaha on loan hopefully
Scott Dann - £2m from Blackburn to replace Gabbidon
Jordan Rhodes/Befatimbi Gomis - £7m to replace Jerome
Back up keeper, new left back and a new central midfielder too. Get rid of Garvan who's not even registered and Dikgacoi who is fucking cack.
ahhh dikcagoi... I remember when Fulham bought him and the excitement of his first match... He was fucking terrible...
Quote from: Dorling on January 02, 2014, 06:13:02 AM
.....really? I can't genuinely believe any Man U fan would actually want that? That's expert level delusion if anyone thinks AVB is the man to save a club.
No, not really. That was a joke because I know how much you love him. He probably couldn't do worse than Moyes, though.
Quote from: Kirk on January 03, 2014, 12:54:54 AM
No, not really. That was a joke because I know how much you love him. He probably couldn't do worse than Moyes, though.
Oh I love AVB. I wish he'd stayed at Spurs, Sherwood is doing rather well.
In a shock move Manchester United are linked with Wesley Snejder again...this is the 194th time the club has been linked with Snejder since the end of the Vietnam war...
Looks like we're actually going for a permanent deal of Nikica Jelavic from Everton for £3.5m which is decent.
Some places still suggesting we're willing to spend £8m on Ince, but I'm pretty certain the transfer to Swansea is a done deal.
Done Deals:
Lacina Traore from Anzi to Monaco -- Dudes a 6'8 MONSTER, now West Ham is trying to get him on loan, would rip up EPL.
Quote from: Cory on January 08, 2014, 04:22:21 PM
Done Deals:
Lacina Traore from Anzi to Monaco -- Dudes a 6'8 MONSTER, now West Ham is trying to get him on loan, would rip up EPL.
I bet West Ham fans love the idea of someone to hump long balls at...as they cry while they are currently 5-0 down to Man City.
Actually not to sure of that signing tho with them just unloading a bunch of $$$ for the same type of player in Andy Carroll.
...unless they future having a 6'4 and a 6'8 striking combo for the 2nd half of the season.
Toronto FC just signed Jermaine Defoe and Michael Bradley, MASSIVE signings for the club, whose previous best signing was a tie between Thornston Frings and Robert Earnshaw.
Obviously Bradley still being in his prime, not getting much playing time at Roma is gonna be the main building block to come, but Defoe is going to light the MLS up.
With just getting Canadas best player of all time in Dwayne DeRosario on free, rumors of signing Italy national team striker Alberto Gilardino may give TFC the best offseason in MLS history.
Have Toronto just been bought out or something? Spending a lot of money, for the MLS at least.
Quote from: Flins. on January 10, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
Have Toronto just been bought out or something? Spending a lot of money, for the MLS at least.
With their ownership (I believe the Toronto FC is a member of the MLSE which is owned by Rogers and Bell, the two communications giants) they've always had the money, they just never used it or never used it properly under the old General Managers of the team. This past year MLSE went out and got Tim Leiweke who is putting all of this in motion, and with what he did with the Galaxy, it kind of makes sense.
EDIT: They also got Gilberto recently, I believe. So that's Bradley, Defoe, DeRosario and Gilberto...
Quote from: C.J. Gates on January 10, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
With their ownership (I believe the Toronto FC is a member of the MLSE which is owned by Rogers and Bell, the two communications giants) they've always had the money, they just never used it or never used it properly under the old General Managers of the team. This past year MLSE went out and got Tim Leiweke who is putting all of this in motion, and with what he did with the Galaxy, it kind of makes sense.
EDIT: They also got Gilberto recently, I believe. So that's Bradley, Defoe, DeRosario and Gilberto...
THIS. Didnt even mention Gilberto, dude had like 15 goals in the Brazilian league.
Fact is, they realize how big TFC can be.
A) I wouldnt be surprised if there is more immigrants in Toronto than actual Canadians. Thus meaning Soccer is a huge market to tap into, and if TFC wasnt consistently one of the worst teams in the MLS, they'd have no problem selling out.
B) One thing about Toronto is fairweather fans. Toronto sports teams have a history of sucking, I dont think they've won any major sports title since like the 90s with the Blue Jays. If TFC can actually win games, more than just the foreigners would start to go to the games. If TFC can continue to build, I could shortly see them surpassing constantly under performers in the Raptors (Basketball) and Blue Jays (Baseball)
These reasons are why MLSE is chucking out outrageous money by MLS standards, because I can see footy being uber popular in a massive, bandwagon mentality city filled with immigrants.
It's true. Where I work, soccer is huge. My co-workers are all about it, and for the past month, that's all that has been playing on the TV in the break room.
Toronto is very multicultural, and they've had good attendance at TFC games up until last season when things took a hit due to their history. But these signings will definitely pick it back up. And it seems easier to do with the TFC to turn them into a winner then the other three teams just because of the nature of the system (TFC shelling out a lot of money to lure Bradley here).
Think about it like what the Blue Jays did. They were/are mediocre but last off season they went out and brought in Reyes, Johnson, Buehrle, Dickey, Cabrera and attendance rose for them to what I think is a high for them since the World Series years.
Like you said, Cory, TFC has the potential to be HUGE in Toronto. I mean, it has been huge and they've pretty much sucked the entire time they've been here. But the fan interest is there, whether that's from immigrants or Canadians, and it's only a matter of time before it all comes together. And with Leiweke at the helm of the company that owns TFC, I can only think he'd be able to get that job done and turn it into a successful team.
Hasnt been said, but Lewandowski is leaving Dortmund at seasons end for Bayern, adding yet another unloyal cunt.
Aiden McGeady from Moscow to Everton
Jonas Gutierrez from Newcastle to Norwich on Loan
Stephen Ireland from Villa to Stoke
Grant Holt from Wigan to Villa on Loan
Bryan Ruiz from Fulham back to PSV on Loan
Nemanja Matić from Benfica to Chelsea (VERY good signing)
Nikica Jelavic from Everton to Hull
Looks like Long to Hull.
They suddenly have a good strike force to go with their good midfield and well drilled defence. There is no doubt that Steve Bruce knows what he's doing!
Glad ruiz has gone. Better back in Holland... Less physical.
Totally disagree regarding lewandowski. He's not been petulant, not refused to play or created a scene ala rooney etc, he got the offer, respectfully accepted and will move in the summer. His teammates have praised his attitude and that's why there's minimal media coverage
Yes, lets applaud Gotze too, for leaving for free to the rivals.
Im not saying he personally is a bad guy, but this move is very cunty to all Dortmund fans, and those that love to see competition. Dortmund is easily one of the most exciting teams in Europe and usually Bayerns biggest competition domestically.
Gotze leaves for free, Dortmund lose out on 30-40 million, goes to Rivals Bayern.
Lewandowski leaves for free, Dortmund lose out on 40-50 million, goes to Rivals Bayern.
I understand this is football and business, but for these guys to say "I will always love the club" and shit in situations like this, fuck off.
Erm, Bayern Munich met the 37 Million Euro release fee in Gotze's contract, he didn't got for free. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22261981 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22261981))
As for Lewandowski, if his team mates are saying he's been a pro and he wants to sign for a team like Bayern you absolutely cannot blame the guy. Dortmund are good and great to watch, yes, but this is Bayern - the European champions.
Quote from: Cory on January 16, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
Nemanja Matić from Benfica to Chelsea (VERY good signing)
Have to say I disagree with that too, I can't see a scenario where it's ever a good signing to sell someone for 3m and buy them back for 21m.
Lol... yeah, that whole Matic scenario is laughable.
Looks like Palace are going to try and seal the Scott Danns transfer today or tomorrow. Unfortunately it includes loaning Leon Best for the season. Looks like either Jerome or Puncheon are back off to their clubs. Hopefully both....
fucking Puncheon, useless cunt
Well the finances of the deal are terrible, a lot of people are labelling David Luiz a bust, but the actual signing of Matic, hes the white Yaya Toure. A fantastic defender and who can also tribute to the attack, he had like a dozen assists last season for Benfica., a major upgrade for Chelsea over Mikel, Essien, and even Ramieres.
So Mata to United. Wow. I'm very surprised that Chelsea are doing it.
To think that they wouldn't let Ba go to Arsenal at the beginning of the season because they saw them as title rivals but will let Mata go to United! I know United fans are saying that he's not the type of player they need but he improves any squad.
Quote from: Jerry McClean on January 23, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
So Mata to United. Wow. I'm very surprised that Chelsea are doing it.
To think that they wouldn't let Ba go to Arsenal at the beginning of the season because they saw them as title rivals but will let Mata go to United! I know United fans are saying that he's not the type of player they need but he improves any squad.
Clever move. United are too far behind Chelsea, but still have to play all of Chelsea's rivals. Near on £40m for a player who is not playing also looks good for financial fair play, which Abramovich is apparently big on.
They apparently have a deal agreed for Mo Salah from Basel for £11m.
Salah for £11mil is a bargain.
Slow clap for MDK, ill get to it.
Maurice Edu from Stoke to Philadelphia Union
Peter Odemwinge from Cardiff to Stoke
Kenwyne Jones from Stoke to Cardiff
Yohan Cabaye from Newcastle to PSG
Luuk De Jong from Mönchengladbach to Newcastle [LOAN]
Ignacio Scocco from Internacional to Sunderland
Abdul Razak from Anzhi to West Ham
Adel Taarabt from Fulham to AC Milan [LOAN]
Wilfred Zaha from Man U to Cardiff [LOAN]
Fabio from Man U to Cardiff
Lewis Holtby from Spurs to Fulham [LOAN]
Kurt Zouma from St. Etienne to Chelsea - Ugh!...then Chelsea loaned him back
Wayne Hennessey from Wolves to Palace
Jason Puncheon from Southampton to Palace
and prem signing of the window goes to Fulham
Konstantinos Mitroglou from Olympiacos to Fulham....what a signing....wanted Arsenal to get this hitman. Bravo.
Kallstrom to Arsenal, I'd imagine he is just there for additional depth, doesn't seem like an Arsenal player to me but I could be wrong.
Birdcutt to Sunderland, solid signing, but not sure where he fits into the team with Cattermole. Though apparently Stoke have had a fee agreed for the Cattermole.
Kallstrom on loan is a good move, adds depth and gives us another true holidng midfielder. With Ramsey/Wilshere/Flamini ever all being healthy at the same time I like the move.
Just need to add depth up front and ill be happy.
We also signed Tom Ince on loan with a potential permanent move in the summer if we stay up and Joe Ledley from Celtic as well as Scott Dann from Blackburn.
I think we've honestly had the best deadline day out of all clubs
Aye, Palace made some strong signings, and I'd imagine not spent a lot. Fulham have done some good business too.
£1 million for the Ince loan of 15 games which is kind of steep, but not a lot has been spent.
Joe Ledley is for me the best buy of the window, I've heard it was under a million for a player who's played Champions League football and has been fantastic and consistent for both clubs he's played for in his career.
Puncheon £1.75m and Hennessey for about the same. Scott Dann for £3m. That's 5 potentially brilliant signings for around £8 million.
Fulham also bought in larnel Cole and Ryan tunnicliffe from man utd for undisclosed fee. John heitinga from everton as well is a great signing. Along with Kvist yesterday and the players heading out of the club
Senderos to valencia
Berbatov to Monaco
Hughes to QPR
Taarabt to Ac Milan.
I feel we did everything necessary to build for survival. I would have liked Morrison from West ham and the full back from Swansea but I was very happy with transfer deadline day
We've had a couple of games with the new signings, so how does everyone feel about what they got/missed out on? This is a question we can revisit at the end of the season.
I'm obviously delighted with Mata, but disappointed that Moyes didn't fill any of the actual holes in the squad. It's too little too late for top four (as much as it hurts me to say this, Liverpool look too good to catch this year) but, with Mata, the Europa League spot looks more within our reach.
Kvist was immense yesterday, Tunnicliffe put in a decent shift and Heitinga is a new man. Holtby could be a key to our season. Mitroglu should be fit for Liverpool so time will tell if this gamble was worth it
Well, Ledley scored out of position, Ince scored and assisted one and Dann organised the defense extremely well.
Also, we have Glenn Murray back now and that's as good as a new signing.
Just keeps getting better for Canadas Soccer Team
(http://www.torontofc.ca/sites/toronto/files/imagecache/620x350/image_nodes/2014/02/JulioCesar.jpg)
Whats the deal now with MLS, salary cap and the designated player rule. Seems Toronto are outside what I thought the norm was.
It's a strange 'un, would've thought with all the recent signings that they'd filled up their designated spots. I believe these can be traded, but surely there are limitations? Ceser should do well, once he has played a few, he's been playing reserves in the UK for the last couple of years.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on February 14, 2014, 06:40:32 PM
Whats the deal now with MLS, salary cap and the designated player rule. Seems Toronto are outside what I thought the norm was.
I believe you can have 3 designated players, which basically wont count against your salary cap, , as TFC current designated players are Gilberto (just bought from Brazil, netted 15 goals last season), Defoe and Michael Bradley.
For Cesar, QPR is going to pay a major fraction of his salary, so TFC wont go over their salary cap.....literally a perfect situation for Toronto FC. TFC now have the most "prime" player in the league in Michael Bradley, a for sure top striker in Defoe, and now the best keeper getting ready to start for Brazil at the world cup.
I'm currently managing Toronto on Football Manager. The rules are hard to get your head around. The real Toronto team has far better players than anything I've managed to put together (although I am somehow top of the league).
Apparently Matias Laba also counts as a designated player
Defoe nets 2 in the 1st half of his debut.
Starting it off early....
Nemanja Vidic from Man U to Inter Milan [FREE]
Marc-Andre ter Stegen from Mönchengladbach to Barcelona [12m]
Ángel Correa from San Lorenzo to Athletico Madrid [7.5m] *This guys AMAZING @ 18yrs old*
Nuri Sahin from Real Madrid to Dortmund [7m]
Craig Gardner from Sunderland to West Brom [FREE]
David Luiz from Chelsea to PSG [40m]
Federico Macheda from Man U to Cardiff [FREE]
MLS continues to grow with expired, but talented players.
Frank Lampard and David Villa look like locks to sign to New York FC
Quote from: Cory on June 01, 2014, 12:46:22 PM
MLS continues to open holiday resort for old people exactly like the North American Soccer League did.
Frank Lampard and David Villa are looking forward to shuffle board and Wednesday night bridge
Palace supposedly bringing Steve Sidwell in.
Been rumoured with Michael Dawson, John Ruddy, Gylfi Sigrudsson and some other players who've been relegated this season.
Quote from: Rob on June 02, 2014, 03:01:36 AM
Palace supposedly bringing Steve Sidwell in.
Been rumoured with Michael Dawson, John Ruddy, Gylfi Sigrudsson and some other players who've been relegated this season.
Leroy Fer on Norwich would be an unreal signing too.
Ciro Immobile from Torino to Dortmund [15.5m] - Serie A leading goal scorer, what a steal at that price.
Diego Costa has passed his medical at Chelsea, another world class striker for the Burnley defense to test themselves against haha
Man Utd are building expectations while dragging their feet and achieving nothing. It seems to be the new transfer policy since Gill left.
Rickie Lambert from Southampton to Liverpool [4m]
Emre Can from Bayern Leverkusen to Liverpool [10m]
Alex from PSG to AC Milan [Free]
Philpe Senderos signs to Aston Villa
£4m... Damn thats cheap
Quote from: Rob on June 05, 2014, 02:57:16 PM
£4m... Damn thats cheap
...sadly he'll rarely play...the victim of big club syndrome. Sturridge/Suarez have all the spots locked up...HATE when players who would start on 90% of the teams in the prem take the money for a depth job.
I think he will play plenty, especially with Liverpool in the champions league this season. The position he played with Southampton had him play up front in an attacking three with Lallana and Jay-Rod, no reason he can't play a similar role at Liverpool.
I think he'll get a lot of game time as well. It's a good move for him and the club. I like the way Liverpool are getting their business done early and without too much fuss. Now I feel dirty.
- Xavi has agreed to go to Al-Arabi when his Barca contract is up
- Kaka has agreed to go to Orlando FC in the MLS when his Milan contract is up
- Ivan Rakitic from Sevilla to Barcelona [15m]
- Joe Cole from West Ham to Villa [Free]
- Lukasz Fabianski from Arsenal to Swansea [Free]
Bloody rumour mill is linking us with returns for Victor Moses or Wilfried Zaha with Zaha being likely only if Man U want to sell and we meet the valuation they have.
As well as a loan for Joel Campbell from Arsenal, Sigurdsson is still doing the rounds, Michu from Swansea is linked, Dawson is apparently going to be the rumour that won't go away this summer.
Ander Herrera to Manchester United
Luke Shaw to Manchester United
Fernando to Manchester City
Bacary Sagna to Manchester City
Robert Snodgrass to Hull City
Jake Livermore to Hull City
Claudio Bravo to Barcelona
Liam Ridgewell to Portland Timbers
Ezequiel Garay from Benfica to Zenit [6m]
The prices Utd are paying are ridiculous. I'm embarrassed.
They overpaid for Fellaini and Mata without a doubt, Herrera and Shaw though, given their age, are worth the investment. They won't be on the ridiculous contracts that Manchester City are throwing out there either.
Bafetimbi Gomis to Swansea. Interesting strikeforce they will have for next season, assuming no one is sold and people stay fit. Bony - Michu - Gomis should equal a lot of goals.
thats a lot of power up front, I believe Mario Zarate and Cheikhou Kouyate has signed for West Ham as well.
I was under the impression that Gomis was brought in to replace Bony who would be going to Arsenal or Spurs. If they can keep all of those players, they will be dangerous again next season.
Michu is on his way out. He's been linked with us, Stoke City or Michael Laudrup's new team.
Both Swansea and Newcastle had been chasing Gomis for over a year, so the signing itself doesn't necessarily indicate one of either Bony or Michu will be gone. I wouldn't be surprised if Bony had a lot of suitors though, given his performances this year.
Looks like Lallana is on the verge of signing for Liverpool, finally.
Fulham have bought in Taggart from Newcastle Jets - aussie striker, Hoogland from schalke and a lad from Scotland.
Sold rielther back to Germany, tankovic to az and released our oldies.
All moves in the right direction.
Why have utd spent over 50 million on 2 unproven players? Over the odds is what they are Having to pay as they don't have the allure of European football next season I guess...
Offically confirmed:
Robert Lewandowski from Dortmund to Bayern Munich [Free]
Sidney Sam from Bayern Leverkusen to Schalke [2.2m]
Fabian Johnson from Hoffenheim to M'gladbach [Free]
Yann Sommer from FC Basel to M'gladbach [7m]
Adrian Ramos from Hetha Berlin to Dortmund [8.5m]
Sebastian Rode from Frankfurt to Bayern Munich [Free]
Kalidou Koulibaly from Genk to Napoli [6m]
Diego Costa from Ath. Madrid to Chelsea [33.4m]
Saphir Taider from Bologna to Inter Milan [6.6m]
Arthur Boka from Stuttgart to Malaga [Free]
Josip Drmic from Nurnberg to Bayern Leverkusen [6m]
Sebastian Jung from Frankfurt to Wolfsberg [2.2m]
Ciro Immobile from Torino to Dortmund [17m]
Adam Lallana from Southampton to Liverpool [25m]
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Also saw a comparison, it cost PSG 50m to bring in Thiago Silva and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, and Southampton made 52m on Lallana and Shaw. Well done Southampton.
Emre Can from Bayern Leverkusen to Liverpool
John Heitinga from Fulham to Hertha Berlin
Sascha Reither from Fulham to Freiburg
Marvin Emnes from Middlesbrough to Swansea
Aaron Cresswell from Ipswich to West Ham
Arsenal make 24m bid for Khedira who is my dream signing for the club this year, also Barca set to land Suarez from Liverpool, from anywheres from 60-70m
The world's gone mad.
Emnes to Swansea free's up Michu
Apparently we're looking at a couple of other no-name players. We've had a bid of £8m accepted for Stephen Caulker. I think that's too much personally.
Quote from: Rob on July 05, 2014, 02:49:54 AM
Emnes to Swansea free's up Michu
Apparently we're looking at a couple of other no-name players. We've had a bid of £8m accepted for Stephen Caulker. I think that's too much personally.
Caulker was very good last season, had ability to score on set pieces, takes an England spot on the roster and is just entering his prime. I think 8m is a fair price, he's an upgrade over Mariappa
QuoteBarcelona will accept a bid of 40 million euros from Arsenal for Alexis Sanchez, Goal UK reports.
The Gunners will now try to wrap up the transfer of the in-demand forward with further talks in the next 48 hours aimed at convincing the player to choose a move to Emirates Stadium ahead of his other suitors.
Sources have told Goal that the financial package offered to Sanchez has been agreed in principle by the player and his representatives.
Hope this financial splash doesnt prevent us from getting a holding midfielder like Khedira/Bender
Tom Ince from Palace to Hull
Ashley Cole from Chelsea to Roma
Debuchy had a medical at Arsenal....not sure if I like him over Aurier and hes turning 29 so is a stop-gap, but IS an upgrade over Sagna as shown by his starts during the WC, plus the 8m for a guy who started at the WC and has EPL experience isnt too much to be upset about. Not the flashiest pickup, but if we land Khedira and Sanchez too I`ll be a happy man.
Debuchy is a good player and I'm just surprised it took a top team this long to go after him. He'd be good for Arsenal, Spurs, Pool, Utd.. hell, anyone other than City and Chelsea who are pretty well stocked at fullback.
Tom Ince wasn't actually our player, we just had him on loan.
Aye, he is one of the many players making a mass exodus from Blackpool.
He could've signed for us as his contract expired but I don't think he was happy with where he would feature in the team and that our plans on the wing would not revolve around him starting. I think he sees himself as world-beater quality already
Juan Bernat from Valencia to Bayern [8m]
Ross McCormack from Leeds to Fulham [12m]
Willy Caballero from Malaga to Man City [10m]
Dusan Tadic from FC Twente to Southamption [9m]
Gareth Barry from Man City to Everton [Free]
Astonishing in that list that McCormack went for £12m. He's not worth that much but all the other players are probably worth more. Barry on a free after his ability last season is awesome for Everton.
Quote from: Rob on July 09, 2014, 02:53:14 PM
Astonishing in that list that McCormack went for £12m. He's not worth that much but all the other players are probably worth more. Barry on a free after his ability last season is awesome for Everton.
Yeah, was kinda surprised Fulham is chucking out that much money after relegation....but on paper anyways McCormack/Ruiz/Mitroglu should wreck havoc in the Championship.
McCormack has been the leading goalscorer, or there abouts, in the championship for a good few years now. The fee is large, but if his goals get them back into the Premier League it is justifiable.
Alfred Finnbogason from SC Heerenveen to Real Sociedad [8m]
Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao to Man U [29m]
Pierre-Michel Lasogga from Hertha Berlin to Hamburg [7.5m]
Hakan Çalhanoğlu from Hamburg to Bayern Leverkusen [14m]
Jeremy Menez from PSG to AC Milan [Free]
Alex from PSG to AC Milan [Free]
Juan Iturbe from Porto to Hellas Verona [15m]
Quote from: Flins. on July 09, 2014, 05:01:58 PM
McCormack has been the leading goalscorer, or there abouts, in the championship for a good few years now. The fee is large, but if his goals get them back into the Premier League it is justifiable.
We signed the leading goalscorer in the 12/13 season for nothing.
And? Not sure if you're missing my point or just being pedantic.
Alexis Sanchez to Arsenal for 30m :D
And being the top scorer in the championship does not mean he's worth £12m. Murray didn't score a single goal in the Prem and Zamora, another top Championship scorer was woeful in the Prem. It's a consistent theme with good championship strikers.
He only needs to be a success in the Championship to retain the value for his price tag though. He bags them 20+ goals en route to promotion, jobs a good 'un.
Jordan Rhodes would've been a more consistent striker to throw that kind of cash at, but he seems happy at Blackburn and unlikely to leave unless a Premiership club come looking (and willing to pay).
I don't think one player is worth £12m in the championship.
Apparently Fulham do. This is the way things are going unless the people behind the FFP regulations grow some balls and start banning teams.
Im gonna back Danny Ings to translate well from Championship play to EPL. Has the combo of elite speed, good strength and finishing ability.
Well, we've just signed a Championship player for £8m.
Exclusively confirmed that Caulker has signed for Palace.
EDIT: Better clarify that I am absolutely over the moon with this signing. Big signing for us, shows intent in the market. It's a club record fee and it tells me if we're willing to spend £8m on a very good player like Caulker then the bosses at CPFC are not expecting another dog fight.
Caulker is a great signing, especially if you guys can end up keeping Ward...thats a crazy underrated backline.
Apparently Evra is off to Juve for 1.6mil. A bargain. Utd's policy seem to be to buy for extortionate prices and give away our best players for practically nothing. What could possibly go wrong with a strategy like that? Rooney to Chelsea for a fiver and a bag of Quavers is coming next.
Evra is 33. Selling him at that price is a good deal.
Fergies locker room has finally been dissolved and van gaal can move forward positively
Fergie's last ever signing is asking to return to the club that made him. Zaha is asking to go back to Palace and we've apparently offered £7m. The reported £20m that Utd bought him for is some way off the mark as it was closer to £10m with £10m worth of incentives and add-on clauses.
The mccormack signing isn't anywhere near the 12 million reported and that's a fact. The fee is actually 6.8 million and will rise to 9.6 on promotion. It's very good business for Fulham especially with mitroglu going on loan to besiktas or trabsonzspor evidently. Mccormack, Rodellega combination should be effective in the championship.
Magath has completely rebuilt the squad. We now have only one starting 11 player over 30. He's made purchases from top European teams to bring in talent. So far in we have Hutchison from motherwell, kay Voser from basel, Taggart from Perth, Hoogland, stafylidis and mccormack. Currently linked with adil chidhi who has been one of the trialist players as well as Harry maguire from Sheffield United.
Sold Richardson to villa and kasami to olympiakos for 8 million shows an intent to go straight back up.
Rumors of today....
Sami Khedira to Arsenal for 23m (Khedira/Ozil/Ramsey would easily be the most complete midfield in the Prem, especially if YaYa leaves which looks likely.)
Arturo Vidal to Man U for 35m (Dont know why he would move to a club out of Europe this season, but would be a phenomenal signing for LVG)
Lazar Markovic to Liverpool for 25m (Well, same price range as the first two mentioned...and quality far inferior. Liverpool trying to pull a Spurs, throw a crazy amount of money around to compensate for losing a top 5 player in the world.)
Eliquim Mangala to Man City for 32m (Well its Man City, but FAR FAR FAR too much money. Mangala is an athletic freak but is far to unproven to warrant that kind of price tag.)
Patrice Evra to Juventus for 2m (for 2m, and excellent move. Evra still has a little left in the tank.)
Gylfi Sigurdsson bid accepted from us. Believed to be £8m-£10m
Stumbling block with Caulker. Bid is accepted and he would like to join us but Cardiff have also accepted a QPR bid. They are offering more money but he would prefer to join us.
Wilfried Zaha has asked Manchester United to be sold back to us and it's believed we've made a bid of £7m but that's complete rumour. From the Daily Mail no less.
Frazier Campbell is another one we've put in a bid for, 600k-800k
This Caulker transfer saga is really starting to annoy me. Some newspapers were reporting the deal as done and they were confirming it. Now it's nowhere near confirmed and still in talks. Well, I think that was a move by his agent to attract more clubs and more money. It's worked cause clubs don't think lowly Crystal Palace will offer much money.
Thing is we managed to re-sign Chamakh whilst other English clubs such as West Brom, Swansea and Aston Villa were trying to sign him and I bet they offered stupid money too.
These comments I keep seeing about people surprised a player like Vidal would go to a team outside of Europe are ridiculous. It's not just any team outside of Europe. It's Manchester Utd.
These players aren't stupid. They know that this is a one year blip and that Utd will be right back where they belong before long. The more players like Vidal they sign, the quicker it will happen. They get a huge pay day and play at one of the biggest sports teams in the world. One season outside of Europe is not going to make that much of a difference to players coming to Utd, particularly as there's another 4 years to go to the next world cup. The players will be more expensive, but they won't say no to LVG and Utd just because thet had a bad season under Moyes.
Quote from: Kirk on July 17, 2014, 03:40:25 AM
These comments I keep seeing about people surprised a player like Vidal would go to a team outside of Europe are ridiculous. It's not just any team outside of Europe. It's Manchester Utd.
These players aren't stupid. They know that this is a one year blip and that Utd will be right back where they belong before long. The more players like Vidal they sign, the quicker it will happen. They get a huge pay day and play at one of the biggest sports teams in the world. One season outside of Europe is not going to make that much of a difference to players coming to Utd, particularly as there's another 4 years to go to the next world cup. The players will be more expensive, but they won't say no to LVG and Utd just because thet had a bad season under Moyes.
Im surprised that (before yesterdays news when I posted) he would leave a powerhouse like Juventus to go to a europe-less, Man U. Its not like Juventus is a push over club, their often times the best team in Italy and have a chance to do something in Champions League. A "huge pay day"?, Juventus has lots of money and wouldn't be surprised if his wages are pretty darn close if he makes a transfer....and WHEN they overpay it shows the difference in quality right now between the two clubs.
However with the appointment of Allegri, sadly a mass exodus of Juventus players should leave....hes easily one of the worst managers in football...horrible player management (as shown with playing an injured Thiago Silva) and he's had issues with Pirlo in the past.
Vidal would be excellent to see in the Prem and a perfect fit for Man U, but I'd fair to bet there isnt too many players this transfer window willing to bend over and grab their ankles to the beck and call of playing for Manchester United....as shown with the pretty much unjustifiable fees for Shaw and Herrera. This transfer window is gonna sting financially, luckily LVG is a tremendous manager and he'll get them in Europe next season.
Remy Cabella from Montpellier to Newcastle [9m]
Mathieu Debuchy from Newcastle to Arsenal
Graziano Pelle from Feyenoord to Southamption [8m]
Daryl Janmaat from Feyenoord to Newcastle [5m]
Filipe Luiz from Athletico Madrid to Chelsea [20m]
Enner Valencia from Pachua to West Ham
Toni Kroos from Bayern Munich to Real Madrid [22m]
Jan Oblak from Benfica to Athletico Madrid [14m]
Urby Emanuelson from Milan to Roma [Free]
Yann M'Vila from Rubin Kazan to Inter [Loan]
Adil Rami from Valencia to Milan [4m]
Juan Iturbe from Hellas Verona to Roma [20m]
Matthais Ginter from Freiberg to Dortmund [10m]
Quote from: Cory on July 17, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
Im surprised that (before yesterdays news when I posted) he would leave a powerhouse like Juventus to go to a europe-less, Man U. Its not like Juventus is a push over club, their often times the best team in Italy and have a chance to do something in Champions League. A "huge pay day"?, Juventus has lots of money and wouldn't be surprised if his wages are pretty darn close if he makes a transfer....and WHEN they overpay it shows the difference in quality right now between the two clubs.
However with the appointment of Allegri, sadly a mass exodus of Juventus players should leave....hes easily one of the worst managers in football...horrible player management (as shown with playing an injured Thiago Silva) and he's had issues with Pirlo in the past.
Vidal would be excellent to see in the Prem and a perfect fit for Man U, but I'd fair to bet there isnt too many players this transfer window willing to bend over and grab their ankles to the beck and call of playing for Manchester United....as shown with the pretty much unjustifiable fees for Shaw and Herrera. This transfer window is gonna sting financially, luckily LVG is a tremendous manager and he'll get them in Europe next season.
Juventus have own series a for the past 3 seasons?
New challenge, and who wouldn't want to be apart of a "new" UTD team as they rebuild? Not like they were relegated and were in the bottom half of the table.
Liverpool took 17 years to rebuild and get hem back into the top 2?
And to be fair, Man United finished 7th and are still one of the biggest teams in the world.
Do you remember Juve got relegated and mixed up in a lot of scandal a few years ago? Honestly, I'd sooner play for United any day.
Quote from: Rob on July 14, 2014, 05:12:16 PM
Gylfi Sigurdsson bid accepted from us. Believed to be £8m-£10m
Stumbling block with Caulker. Bid is accepted and he would like to join us but Cardiff have also accepted a QPR bid. They are offering more money but he would prefer to join us.
Wilfried Zaha has asked Manchester United to be sold back to us and it's believed we've made a bid of £7m but that's complete rumour. From the Daily Mail no less.
Frazier Campbell is another one we've put in a bid for, 600k-800k
Starting to look like Campbell will be the only player to make the move. Caulker is having a medical at QPR, Sigurdsson at Swansea, and it seems most fringe players at United are getting the chance to prove themselves under Van Gaal.
Campbell's turned us down for a bit of extra cash. Not totally fussed by that.
The rumour mill continues. Supposedly Caulker wants to play with Rio Ferdinand and Sigurdsson never spoke to us. Lewis Holtby is now on the radar. Fuck the transfer window. This happened last season with Darren Bent for example, players are close to signing for us and then they change their mind at the last minute.
James Rodríguez from Monaco to Real Madrid
Bojan Krkic from Barcelona to Stoke City
Steven Caulker from Cardiff to QPR -- Sorry Rob
Sime Vrsaljko from Genoa to Sassuolo
Jérémy Mathieu from Valencia to Barcelona
Fabio Quagliarella from Juventus to Torino
Brown Ideye from Dynamo Kiev to West Brom
Filipe Luis from Athletico Madrid to Chelsea
Casemiro from Real Madrid to Porto [Loan]
Morata from Real Madrid to Juventus
Patrice Evra from Man U to Juventus
Barcelona ain't half buying a load of players during their transfer ban. Expect Suarez to start the season at this rate.
Gylfi Sigurdsson from Tottenham to Swansea City
Michael Vorm from Swansea to Tottenham
Ben Davies from Swansea to Tottenham
Serge Aurier from Toulouse to PSG [Loan]
Jefferson Montero from Morelia to Swansea
Fulham have bought in Eisfeld - German attacking midfielder undisclosed and chidhi from cologne on a free.
Brighton want stockdale. Doubt he'd move just as he's earned number 1.
Nice to see Fulham only have 2 players under 30 now. Exactly what we needed.
Elsewhere man City accidentally released a video of signing mangala from Porto for 32mill. Expect it to be official today
Quote from: M.D.K. on July 25, 2014, 02:27:01 AM
Fulham have bought in Eisfeld - German attacking midfielder undisclosed and chidhi from cologne on a free.
Didnt see him play much at Arsenal....but he was a part of the crazy 7-5 game against Reading...was fantastic that game and my personal MOTM.
His under 21 performances have led him to be 'highly rated'
Callum Chambers from Southampton to Arsenal
Muhammed Besic from Ferensomething to Everton
Jo Inge Berget from Cardiff to Celtic
Tony Watt from Celtic to Standard Lierge
Esteban Granero from QPR to Real Sociedad
Dejan Lovren from Southampton to Liverpool
David Ospina from Nice to Arsenal
Stockdale from Fulham to Brighton - Seems an odd one, I'm guessing Stekelenburg(sp?) isn't leaving then?
Looks like Tottenham are going to completely the pillaging of Southampton by signing Schneiderlin & Jay-Rod. Kind of sad to see the club taken apart like it has been.
Saints will have SO much money....its shit that their losing all their guys, but my fuck Koeman is making everyone over-pay (Shaw, Chambers, Lallana) / or get his moneys worth. No excuse for him not to spend and replenish the team with the same quality, chemistry will take some time. But he should be fine...rumors have them linked with Celtic keeper Forster which would be a phenomenal signing, IMO should be England's #1.
Rickie Lambert (5m) --> Graziano Pelle (8m) -- 2yrs younger, a like for like move and one of Koemans guys.
Adam Lallana (31m) --> Dusan Tadic (14m) -- Another like for like, I rate Tadic same quality as Lallana
Callum Chambers (15m) --> already can replace with Nathaniel Clyne
Dejan Lovern (25m) --> Someone like Ron Vlaar maybe is in much better form than Lovern, as well will cost 1/5 of price.
Luke Shaw (34m) --> Just guessing, talented LWB Daley Blind from the Eredivise would cost like 8m from Ajax
Rough calculations that gives Koeman $40m euros (rumors over 100m pounds..stupid currency) to replenish his backline, plus improve the squad. I think he sold guys who were probably never going to be worth more than they currently are, and lets him get guys HE wants at the club.
£100m does not equal 40m Euros lol...
Don't get the stockdale sale. He had just broken into the first team. I don't particularly want stekelenberg to stay as he appears to be made of glass. Our young keeper joronen is decent though
Quote from: Rob on July 29, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
£100m does not equal 40m Euros lol...
I know, but depending on the source they have from 40m euros to 100m pounds at their disposal.
Quote from: Cory on July 29, 2014, 10:48:02 AM
I know, but depending on the source they have from 40m euros to 100m pounds at their disposal.
In other words, nobody has a clue how much they have.
They aren't "sources". It's just people doing a load of guesswork,
Didier Drogba from Galatasary to Chelsea [Free]
Patrick van Aanholt from Chelsea to Sunderland
Antoine Griezmann from Sociedad to Athletico Madrid
Divock Origi from Lille to Liverpool [Return to Lille on Loan]
Romelu Lukaku from Chelsea to Everton [25m]
Eric Dier from Sportling Lisbon to Spurs [4m]
Carl Jenkinson from Arsenal to West Ham [Loan]
Brede Hangeland from Fulham to Crystal Palace
Nikolay Bodurev from litex to Fulham
Manchester United have agreed terms with Crystal Palace, West Ham and QPR for the sale of Wilfried Zaha.
They really don't want him... Absolute waste of time signing him and just typical of big clubs attempt at player monopoly
Good luck with brede btw rob... Don't get where he'll add to your defence to be honest but if you can get something out of him that is remotely how he was 3 years ago you'll be ok.
Keylor Navas from Levante to Real Madrid
Mathieu Valbuena from Marseille to Dynamo Moskow
Yacine Brahimi from Grenado to Porto
Guillermo Ochoa to Malaga
Jack Rodwell from Man City to Sunderland
Christian Gamboa from Rosenborg to West Brom
Jordan Mutch from Cardiff to QPR
Maurico Isla from Juventus to QPR [Loan]
Frank Lampard from New York City to Man City [Loan]
Rafael Marquez from Club Leon to Verona
Pepe Reina from Liverpool to Bayern Munich
Shkodran Mustafi from Sampdoria to Valencia
Thomas Vermaelen from Arsenal to Barcelona
Fraser Forster from Celtic to Southampton
Eliaquim Mangala from Porto to Man City
Gary Medel from Cardiff to Inter Milan
Valon Behrami from Napoli to Hamburg
Walter Samuel from Inter to Basel
Romain Alessandrini from Rennes to Marseille
Di Maria to Man United is getting closer and closer.
Who knows what's happening with Vidal and Reus. I thought they needed defenders personally.
Yeah, I'm not too sure about that either. Vidal would be the perfect signing for them, but it looks like they are more likely to land Song on loan.
Vidal would be perfect, which is exactly why Utd won't get him. When was the last time Utd signed a player who actually solved a problem?
Liverpool officially in talks with AC Milan over Mario Balotelli.
From one loose cannon to another....
Quote from: Kirk on August 21, 2014, 03:22:13 AM
Vidal would be perfect, which is exactly why Utd won't get him. When was the last time Utd signed a player who actually solved a problem?
Van Persie
Quote from: Rob on August 21, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
Van Persie
He wasn't brought in to solve a problem. He was a luxury and a gift for Sir Alex in his last season. Utd were still left with a horrible midfield and worse wingers... who are still stinking out the place now. Yes he was fantastic in his first season and dragged Utd to the title, but he only covered up the problems, not solve them.
But.... you won the league
DeAndre Yedlin from Seattle to Spurs
Shane Long from Hull to Southampton
Florin Gardoş from Steau to Southampton
Javi García from Man City to Zenit
Diafra Sakho from Metz to West Ham
Stephen Ward from Wolves to Burnley
Nicklas Bendtner from Arsenal to Wolfsburg
Carlos Sanchez from Elich to Aston Villa [Love this signing, was such a beast in La Liga]
Victor Moses from Chelsea to Stoke [Loan]
Alberto Moreno from Sevilla to Liverpool
Marko Marin from Chelsea to Fiorentina [Loan]
Julio César from QPR to Benfica
Jonathan De Guzmán from Villareal to Napoli
Leroy Fer from Norwich to QPR
Marcos Rojo from Sporting to Man U
Eduardo Vargas from Napoli to QPR [Loan]
Mario Balotelli from Milan to Liverpool
looks like Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid to Man U too...perhaps the best signing since Rooney
Quote from: Cory on August 25, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
perhaps the best signing since Rooney
Only if he switches the formation.
Wilfried Zaha joins CPFC on a season-long loan.
Ian Wright and Geoff Thomas potentially joining the coaching staff. Just need Jose Fonte, Victor Moses and Nathanial Clyne back now
Big moves for man utd, Hull and palace. Arsenal got welbeck... Thoughts Guys?
It seems Utd have asked a 10 year old to take over transfer policy this season. They've just selected the shiniest objects available and signed them without any though to squad balance or how they will fit in to the team's formation. Am I excited about seeing Falcao and DiMaria strutting their stuff at Old Trafford? Of course I am. Do I think they will get us into the top 4? Not a chance. Selling Kagawa was a mistake as well because he and Mata seemed to get the best out of each other when played together.
Hull have done a good job in the window and will probably find themselves in mid table at the end of the season.
Arsenal have ensured that they don't win anything again this year. Even top 4 is looking dodgy without a proper striker until 2015.
Surely offloading Kagawa, Welbeck and Hernandez was them taking into account squad balance?
Van Gaal has stated multiple times that the system he is playing is due to the options he has currently, with Di Maria, Falcao, Blind, Rojo, Shaw, and Carrick returning from injury he will have players he is comfortable adapting into another style. I'm still unsure why Kagawa was never able to settle into the team, wasn't given the chance with three different managers there has to be a reason behind doors, poor attitude in training perhaps? Who knows.
Can't explain how frustrating it is to see United fans complaining about their club doing exactly what they wanted them to do, which was bring in better players and improve the squad. Then again, I'm a Burnley fan, and we get out-priced of the transfer market when the asking price is over £5mil.
Hull have done some good business throughout the summer, bit top heavy with forwards though; Jelavic, Sagbo, Aluko, Hernandez, Ramirez, Ben Arfa, and Ince.
I'm not so sure about Arsenal, I rate Welbeck but he's not the most natural of finishers in the league. I've seen Vela play in the La Liga quite a few times and I can't understand why they wouldn't take up the option to bring him back. Again though, perhaps he might not fit that out and out striker they're wanting, but I don't think Welbeck does either.
I would've liked a better striker than Doyle and another defender at Palace but all in all good business and happy to see what Warnock can achieve with these.
Not overly impressed with the deadline day business of anybody to be honest. Hull and QPR seemed to go mad at the last minute in trying to buy everybody going.
Do you think you overpaid for McArthur, Rob? I was a little frustrated with our attempts to sign him, with Leicester barging in with an offer far exceeding ours and then backing out of it after signing Cambiasso.
Chairman has assured us it's not a record signing do it's less than 6m which isnt too bad for their best player.
I'm pretty sick of non-United fans telling United fans how we should feel about our club. I had to put up with it last season when I said that Moyes would take us out of Europe. Looks like I was rigrabout that one. The club has not done what the fans wanted and certainly not what I wanted. I wanted the club to finally buy players to fix our glaring problems. Instead, they went out and made statement signings and ignored the problems. Where is the replacement for Vidic and Ferdinand (Rojo and Blind are not specialist CBs)? Where is the replacement for Roy Keane? Why have they bought another starting striker when the manager has already had to change the formation to fit in the two we already have? Why did they let a good squad player go and keep Young, Anderson, Cleverly, Evans etc? Why did they spend 60million on a winger for a formation that doesn't use them? They could have used that money on Vidal or Pogba. They bought two world class players but, even if you could argue that the squad is better, the first team isn't. We've got one of the worst looking defences in the top half and brought in a Dutch John O'Shae to screen them. The transfer policy at Old Trafford was utter madness. I'm hope I'm wrong... just as I hoped I was wrong last year.
Signing Falcao only makes sense if we'd sold Rooney (which we should have).
Replace Roy Keane? You've won five league titles and the champions league since he left. I'm not having a dig or anything, just find it baffling when fans of the big clubs complain about such things. Rojo and Blind were both great during the World Cup, and unless you follow both the Portugese and Dutch leagues I'm not sure where you have formed this opinion of two players you possibly know little about.
Also, if this season has proven anything, it is that the players were the reason for last years failures, not Moyes.
Quote from: Kirk on September 02, 2014, 03:20:47 AM
Arsenal have ensured that they don't win anything again this year. Even top 4 is looking dodgy without a proper striker until 2015.
Win anything again? We won something just a few months ago...
I don't think Man U should sell Rooney either, that's crazy. You're entitled to your opinion but Rooney is the only player that looked anything like a decent one for most of last season at OT. Even Van Persie was back to his usual injured self. Unfortunately, you've had his one good season that we got out of the 7 or so he gave us.
Blind is much better than John O'Shea. Although O'Shea did score that great goal against Arsenal once.
I'm pretty happy with Arsenal's dealings. If we had signed Sanchez on deadline day everyone would be saying we had a great transfer window. Chambers, Debuchy, Sanchez, Ospina and Welbeck are decent buys in my eyes. Add in a returning Theo Walcott and give Campbell a chance and I think we'll be fine.
Sanogo is the one that puzzles me. He seems to know exactly what he needs to do all of the time, great positioning with decent pace and strength - his legs just seem to lose the ability to communicate with his brain at key moments.
Arsenal will only get better... You're going to struggle with Giroud though. Probably not nearly as much as people suggest because the team will grow and I do think Welbeck will play well in that set-up. Any half decent striker will get the job done with supply from Sanchez, Ramsey, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Cazorla.
At the same time I do think United will struggle defensively. I think they're weak down the wings and is Shaw really going to be a big difference?
Speaking as a fan of a club outside the top half of the table, Arsenal will be top 4 and Man U will compete with the likes of Swansea and Southampton again. Top 2 are Chelsea and Man City. Turns out money can buy you everything if you don't have SAF.
We've just signed Andy Johnson on a free. So that's Zaha, Warnock and Andy Johnson in about 2 weeks.
I'd sooner have Victor Moses, Ben Watson and Clyne back to be honest but it's okay.
Quote from: Kirk on September 02, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
I'm pretty sick of non-United fans telling United fans how we should feel about our club. I had to put up with it last season when I said that Moyes would take us out of Europe. Looks like I was rigrabout that one. The club has not done what the fans wanted and certainly not what I wanted. I wanted the club to finally buy players to fix our glaring problems. Instead, they went out and made statement signings and ignored the problems. Where is the replacement for Vidic and Ferdinand (Rojo and Blind are not specialist CBs)? Where is the replacement for Roy Keane? Why have they bought another starting striker when the manager has already had to change the formation to fit in the two we already have? Why did they let a good squad player go and keep Young, Anderson, Cleverly, Evans etc? Why did they spend 60million on a winger for a formation that doesn't use them? They could have used that money on Vidal or Pogba. They bought two world class players but, even if you could argue that the squad is better, the first team isn't. We've got one of the worst looking defences in the top half and brought in a Dutch John O'Shae to screen them. The transfer policy at Old Trafford was utter madness. I'm hope I'm wrong... just as I hoped I was wrong last year.
Signing Falcao only makes sense if we'd sold Rooney (which we should have).
Should have paid 50m for Vardy I suppose.
The appalling decision for the first penalty didn't help, but the defense was shocking for the rest of the game after that. Watching Roony scream at the players after the way he'd been performing sickened me as well. He's should be nowhere near the captain's armband for Utd or England.
Quote from: Kirk on September 22, 2014, 12:17:15 AM
The appalling decision for the first penalty didn't help, but the defense was shocking for the rest of the game after that. Watching Roony scream at the players after the way he'd been performing sickened me as well. He's should be nowhere near the captain's armband for Utd or England.
At least he was trying. He was the one chasing Vardy more than once - where was the rest of the midfield and, more importantly, the defence?
A lot of Man U fans seem determined to hate Rooney no matter what he does. He may not have been at his best but on the day, aside from a bit of flair from Di Maria, he was one of the better players. Having Falcao, Di Maria, Herrera, Van Persie, Mata, Januzaj etc is all well and good but they offer nothing at all defensively. Rooney at least knows how to put a foot in - but he shouldn't be trying to pick up the slack for all of them.
That's not Rooney's job and running around a bit does not make one of the best players. He's supposed to be the link between the midfield and attack and he's supposed to provide creativity in the center of the pitch, when he's playing at that no.10 position. He isn't supposed to go charging back into the defense and give the ball away just outside his own penalty area... and then scream at the other players because they conceded a goal from his mistake. His touch is poor, he doesn't think quick enough, his passing is careless and he doesn't have the pace to beat anyone anymore. Mata is a better no.10 and Rooney's only the 3rd best no.9 in the squad now that we have Falcao. He's told Van Gaal that he's best at no.10 because he knows he can't compete with the other two strikers. He should be dropped, but the captaincy seems to guarantee him a place in the team every week.
As for your question about the midfield and defence, I think I've already made my thoughts on that pretty clear: Woodward bought the shiniest objects in the transfer window instead of the players we really need.
Yeah it's not his job, but he's the only one that seems to be busting a gut to get a foot in between the ball and your goal. If he didn't run back then it would be one less person for an average Leicester team to utterly embarrass back there.
Vardy's 4th goal was a clear indication. Mata gave the ball away, Rojo was miles out of position and Rooney ended up closest to Vardy when he scored. There are 8 other players that could feasibly be dropped before Rooney in my opinion. Di Maria is the only one that offered anything particularly special.
Beckham was the same when we needed to beat Greece all those years ago - everyone else was terrible but he covered every inch of the pitch and was the only one that showed any real desire whatsoever to win the game. He got massive praise because he was part of a winning effort in the end.
I'm not going to say Rooney is playing like a worldbeater, but there is nobody else in that squad that is capable of wearing or deserves to wear the armband more than him.
At least someone is screaming at his team for being shite, at least someone shows they care.
I'd be pointing fingers at Rojo for extreme positional naivety from a WC finalist, Rafael for being weak and rash, Van Persie for offering nothing in the build up play and Herrera for not getting a foot in.
So yeah, running around a lot does not make the best players - if so Vardy would be in the England squad - but it shows a lot more character and determination to try to fix things than staying on the periphery and dangling weak, spineless tackles in when you're horribly out of position and then not chasing back every time you give it away or get skinned, which is what the rest of the Man U team seemed to do against Leicester.
Ronaldo.... Worth the price for Man U?
Quote from: Gravedigger on September 27, 2014, 01:38:28 PM
Ronaldo.... Worth the price for Man U?
When is the punchline coming?
...Oh, you were being serious. Ronaldo is worth any price quoted. Period.
There's no doubt he's amazing, but are they better served buying one guy who could cost nearly 150 million euros or multiple players that could make a better overall team?
You could buy a good Championship team for that kind of money. No player is worth that much.
January is quickly upon us...lets get hype about deals that probably wont end up going through.
Sadly for TFC here in Canada, Jermain Defoe looks to be going to QPR....good for Canada is our only promising defender 21yr old Doneil Henry looks to be signed to West Ham.
As for Arsenal, Morgan Schneiderlin, Winston Reid/Fabian Schar and a prospect like Dele Alli would suffice LOL
For Utd: a CB and RB who can stay fit.
We need a quality left back, a striker that can actually play up front by himself, a winger to replace Bolasie once he goes off for AFCON and a new manager...
Fulham need a decent centre back, left back.
Thankfully we are selling ruiz so someone decent on the right for Roberts to be an understudy to.
Nélson Oliveira from Benfica to Swansea [Loan]
Eljero Elia from Bremen to Southamption [Loan]
Enzo Perez from Benfica to Valencia [22m]
Fernando Torres from Chelsea to Milan [3m]
Lukas Podolski from Arsenal to Inter [Loan]
Alessio Cerci from Ath. Madrid to Milan [Loan]
Mauro Zárate from West Ham to QPR [Loan]
Victor Valdes to Man U [Free]
Xherdan Shaqiri from Bayern to Inter [Loan]
Oussama Assaidi from Liverpool to Al Ahli
Yaya Sanogo from Arsenal to Crystal Palace [Loan]
Wilfred Bony from Swansea to Man City
Jermaine Defoe from Toronto to Sunderland
Jozy Altidore from Sunderland to Toronto
Sebastian Giovinco from Juventus to Toronto
Andrej Kramaric from HNK to Leicester
Krystian Bielik from Warsaw to Arsenal
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Honestly glad Defoe is gone...didnt want to be in the MLS anymore and TFC swapped a 32 year old for allocation money (salary cap in MLS) and a 24yr old striker PROVEN in the MLS and having great chemistry with our best player Michael Bradley in Jozy Altidore (both US internationals, Altidore has 12 goals in last 24 USA games)
Add in we landed Giovinco from Juventus who is a world class player and will arguably be the best playmaker in the MLS, and also close to signing Polish international CB Damien Perquis this offseason on free and not taking up a designated player spot is 100x better than the last off-season.
Bit let down by Sanogo but we're apparently very close to completing moves for Lee Chung-Yong from Bolton, Rudy Gestede from Blackburn and Matt Taylor from Swansea. All good players though we need to sell some as our squad is rather on the large side!
Final moves for us,
Jordan Mutch £4m
Wilfried Zaha £3.25m which considering we sold him for £10m to United... pretty good return
Lee Chung-Yong 725k
Pape Souare £2.5m
Shola Ameobi on a free. Only big WTF of the window but as I understand it's whilst he gets coaching stuff in order so he can join full time as a coach at the end of the season.
Good window from us, Mutch was probably one of Cardiff's star players last season and Chung-Yong despite joining with a slight hairline fracture has been a wonderful player for Bolton. The big one is obviously Zaha though, great to have him back at the team permanently!
Shame we missed out on loans for Lambert and Lennon but we've got enough strikers and wingers now.
The most boring transfer window since they were introduced. Only one big name signing and I don't really understand why Chelsea even did it: it's not like they're short of attacking options. I also don't understand why other teams did so little (or nothing at all). Spurs still need a striker, Arsenal still need a DM, and Utd still need a defence. The biggest surprise was QPR doing almost nothing, though.
Chelsea basically swapped Schrulle for Cuadrado.....IMO both fantastic players but Cuadrado has very underrated defending where as Schrule was more of a striker than winger....nice to see Schrulle tho go to the only team in Germany that has any chance of upsetting Bayern for the title.
Palace singing Mutch was really good business....2 years ago Mutch was as hot a prospect as any for England.
Arsenal signing Gabriel was nice, lots of potential and much needed depth to CB, now they dont have to rush Chambers development, and Gabriel is very aggressive so should fit well is Koscienly gets hurt again.
But hey, nice that Toronto FC may have won the window regardless of league. Signed Giovinco in his prime, brought back Jozy Altidore who is a proven monster in the MLS, signed CB Perquis who is 1 year out from being a starting back in Polands national team and signing token old man Benoit Cheyrou from French League, who is a 4x Ligue 1 XI of the year player, and a year ago would have been one of the top signings in the MLS....is just a depth guy for our squad now.
Disappointing window for Burnley. We made the loan of Michael Keane permanent, which is great. But we chose not to renew the loan of Chalobah, and didn't strengthen our midfield which is really lacking. We were in for Armstrong and Dorrans, but were outbid on both, Armstrong joined Celtic for £1.5mil and Dorrans was on the way to Norwich, the figure around the £3mil mark (or possibly included in an Olsson trade).
It's tough, do you credit the club for staying true to its structure? We don't have the financial structure to take risks and get relegated. At the same time though, I want us in the PL.
At least we didn't sell Ings.
Apparently Harry was as surprised as I was that QPR did nothing...
Some moves have already happened:
Sami Khedira from Real Madrid to Juventus
Danny Ings from Burnley to Liverpool
James Milner from City to Liverpool
Xavi from Barcelona to Iraq or someething
André Ayew from Marseille to Swansea
Pedro Obiang from Sampdoria to West Ham
Aleix from Sevilla to Barcelona
Paulo Dybala from Palermo to Juventus
Kevin Wimmer from Koln to Spurs
Silly season has started officially...
Palace rumous - Iker Casillas, Yohan Cabaye, Loic Remy...
Im here hoping Vidals DUI increases our chances of getting him
Petr Cech from Chelsea to Arsenal
Nathaniel Clyne from Southampton to Liverpool
Kieran Trippier from Burnley to Spurs
Dimitri Payet from Marseille to West Ham
Shinji Okazaki from Mainz to Leciester
Tyrone Mings from Ipswich to Bournemouth
Sylvain Distin from Everton to Bournemouth
Éder from Braga to Swansea City
Radamel Falcao from Monaco to Chelsea [Loan]
Paulinho from Spurs to Guangzhou
Mario Mandzukic from Ath. Madrid to Juventus
Geoffrey Kondogbia from Monaco to Inter
Roberto Pereyra from Udinese to Juventus
Radja Nainggolan from Cagliari to Roma
Douglas Costa from Shaktar to Bayern Munich
Luiz Adriano from Sharktar to Milan
Carlos Bacca from Sevilla to Milan
Miranda from Ath. Madrid to Inter
Memphis Depay from PSV to Man Utd
Lukas Podolski from Arsenal to Galatasaray
Nani from Man Utd to Fenerbahçe
Toby Alderweireld from Ath. Madrid to Spurs
Etienne Capoue from Spurs to Watford
Zakaria Bakkali from PSV to Valencia
Fernando from Shaktar to Sampdoria
Arda Turan from Ath. Madrid to Barcelona
Simone Zaza from Sassulo to Juventus
Montoya from Barcelona to Inter
Yohan Cabaye from PSG to Crystal Palace.
Matt Lowton from Villa to Burnley - £1mil ish.
Jelle Vossen from Genk to Burnley - £2.5mil ish.
Danny Ings from Burnley to Liverpool - (waiting on tribunal)
Kieren Trippier from Burnley to Tottenham - £3.5mil
Quite a lot of movement across Europe. I normally remember transfer windows as promising lots but just actually getting a few big deals done towards the end.
Bastian!!!!!!
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 12, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
Bastian!!!!!!
Thats a crazy signing tbh, he'd be more suited for a MLS run but for the price they paid cant go wrong....Schniederlin or whatever was an unreal signing though, really though Wenger would bring him to us.
Cabaye is better than both
Steven N'Zonzi from Stoke to Sevilla
Yevhen Konoplyanka from Dnipro to Sevilla
Danilo from Porto to Real Madrid
Iker Casillas from Real Madrid to Porto
Yohan Cabaye from PSG to Crystal Palace
Yannick Carrasco from Monaco to Ath. Madrid
Georginio Wijnaldum from PSV to Newcastle
John Guidetti from Man City to Celta Vigo
Matteo Darmian from Torino to Man. Utd
Ciro Immobile from Dortmund to Sevilla [Loan]
Robin van Persie from Man Utd. to Fenerbahçe
Bastian Schweinsteiger from Bayern to Man Utd.
Morgan Schneiderlin from Southampton to Man Utd.
Man city sign patrick Roberts from fulham for 5mill rising to 11 mill. .. utterly hilarious. Great business by fulham. Silly boy Roberts
Is it true he never played a full 90 minutes for you? Or is that some internet tripe that got spread around.
Yeah. He's never had a full 90 minutes. 2 starts both subbed off. The rest he came on as a sub probably totalling 3 whole games worth. He has a great highlight reel. Has bursts of real talent but I feel he's far too lightweight for the English game. Think SWP
Jackson Martinez from Porto to Ath. Madrid
Jermain Lens from Kiev to Sunderland
Jordy Clasie from Feyenord to Southampton
Younes Kaboul from Spurs to Sunderland
Fabian Delph from Villa to Man City
Giovanni Dos Santos from Villareal to LA Galaxy
Quote from: Adam Wrong on July 19, 2015, 05:41:15 AM
Yeah. He's never had a full 90 minutes. 2 starts both subbed off. The rest he came on as a sub probably totalling 3 whole games worth. He has a great highlight reel. Has bursts of real talent but I feel he's far too lightweight for the English game. Think SWP
How much do you think they are splurging on english dudes for the homegrown rule? Paying at any costs to do so.
400 minutes of football. .. says it all how desperate they are.
Middlesbrough making huge strides at securing promotion this season. Downing bought in and possibly lambert as well.
They are also bringing in the cast of Love Island in Boro to fill the quota of hasbeens who couldnt cut it elsewhere!
Christian Benteke from Villa to Liverpool
Benjamin Stambouli from Spurs to PSG
Aleksandar Mitrovic from Anderlect to Newcastle
Patrick Bamford from Chelsea to Crystal Palace [Loan]
Jordan Ayew from Lorient to Villa
Abou Diaby from Arsenal to Marseille
Wojciech Szczesny from Arsenal to Roma [Loan]
Chancel Mbemba from Anderlecht to Newcastle
Vlad Chiriches from Spurs to Napoli
Jordan Veretout from Nantes to Villa
Rudy Gestede from Blackburn to Villa
Stevan Jovetic from Man City to Inter
Rickie Lambert from Liverpool to West Brom
Connor Wickham from Sunderland to Crystal Palace
Yann M'Vila from Ruban Kazan to Sunderland [Loan]
Mohammad Salah from Chelsea to Roma [Loan]
Didier Drogba from Chelsea to Montreal FC !!!!
Quaresma from Porto to Besiktas
We've also signed Sako on a free transfer
Look like Arsenal are kicking things off bringing in Granit Xhaka in from the Bundesliga, great signing and will be a fantastic holding midfielder.
Hopefully Walcott is sold soon.
Wenger has already said that Walcott will stay. I fear that Oxlade-Chamberlain may leave instead. As long as none of the big names leave and we improve the squad I'll be happy.
So far we've been linked with every Newcastle player past and present still playing...
And supposedly Berrahino for £7m but I can't see that happening
Wijnaldum and Sissoko will be a pretty piece EPL clubs will try and bag, and if you need a ticking time bomb Mitrovic is there too.
Arsenal triggered Jamie Vardy's release clause, he said he'd make his decision before he leaves for the Euros. Not sure how I feel about that move if it happens.
He'll be as effective for you as Francis jeffers
He'll be injured after two weeks and you'll see him play 7 games and score 1 penalty.
Quote from: Adam Wrong on June 06, 2016, 03:27:13 AM
He'll be as effective for you as Francis jeffers
Why did you have to go there?!
Zlatan Ibrahimovic from PSG to Man U for Free
Eric Bailly from Villareal to Man U for 38m Euros
Joel Matip from Schalke to Liverpool for Free
Loris Karius from Mainz to Liverpool for 6m Euros
Sofinae Faghouli from Valencia to West Ham for Free
Granit Xhaka from Mochengladbach to Arsenal for 45m Euros
Renato Sanchez from Benfica to Bayern for 35m Euros
Raphael Guerreiro from Lorient to Dortmund for 12m Euros
Ousmane Dembele from Rennes to Dortmund for 15m Euros
Mats Hummels from Dortmund to Bayerns for 38m Euros
Nicolas Gaitan from Benfica to Atletico Madrid for 25m Euros
Miralem Pjanic from Roma to Juventus for 32m Euros
Palace have signed Andros Townsend and Steve Mandanda
Celtic have signed Mousa Dembele from fulham. The one that Arsenal, Spurs, PSG and Galatasaray all bid for has gone to celtic to play champs league football and win trophies...
Newcastle have signed Dwight Gayle off us for £10m
Wow... lol
Quote from: Rob on July 01, 2016, 04:38:20 AM
Newcastle have signed Dwight Gayle off us for £10m
Wow... lol
Kinda surprised he never started more at Palace, seemed to be their most clinical in front of goal.
4 different managers decided he wasn't good enough.
I had heard he liked to party a little more than he liked to train or play and wasn't too bothered about having a weight issue.
On the brightside, it looks like we're about to sign Christian Benteke from Liverpool
Mandanda for 2m I heard is a steal, he was a top 3 keeper in France.
Kante wants to move to Chelsea which would be very head scratching move. Chelsea may be 2 seasons away from playing Champions League while Leicester are there next season and will surly match his wage demands. I didn't know London was that desirable that moving to a team with no champions league and no guarantee to start every game.
Quote from: Cory on July 01, 2016, 12:28:52 PM
Mandanda for 2m I heard is a steal, he was a top 3 keeper in France.
Kante wants to move to Chelsea which would be very head scratching move. Chelsea may be 2 seasons away from playing Champions League while Leicester are there next season and will surly match his wage demands. I didn't know London was that desirable that moving to a team with no champions league and no guarantee to start every game.
He's been Ligue 1 Goalkeeper of the Year 4 times including the last 2 years, at the moment he is the best keeper in France not just a top 3. I've watched some clips of him... he certainly likes to parry the ball, easy saves he decides not to hold onto
Viktor Fischer from Ajax to Middlesbrough
Ron-Robert Zieler from Hannover to Leicester
Nampalys Mendy from Nice to Leicester
Ilkay Gundogan from Dortmund to Man City
Nolito from Celta Vigo to Man City
Victory Wanyama from Southampton to Tottenham
Nathan Redmond from Norwich to Southampton
Sadio Mane from Southampton to Liverpool
Christian Kabasele from Genk to Watford
Henrikh Mkhitaryan from Dortmund to Man U
Michy Batshuayi from Marseille to Chelsea
Alvaro Morata from Juventus to Real Madrid
Samuel Umtiti from Lyon to Barcelona
Kevin Volland from Hoffenheim to Bayer Leverkusen
Marc Bartra from Barcelona to Dortmund
Sebastian Rode from Bayern to Dortmund
Breel Embolo from Basel to Schalke
Jeffrey Bruma from PSV to Wolfsburg
Stephan El Shaarawy from AC Milan to Roma
Antonio Rudiger from Stuttgart to Roma
Dani Alves from Barcelona to Juventus
Christian Benteke is in London ahead of a move to CPFC