This is the NBA thread for all NBA talk. Figured we would need one. Ok, since the playoffs are over who do is your team and who do you hope they draft?
First out the gate ... Ray Allen reportedly wants to go to the Heat. Last shot at another championship.
Not surprised. He should replace Miller who likely is to retire.
No surprise there. He knows he has the best chance to win with them and adding him to the roster only makes them more dangerous.
Plus it helps he was all huggy huggy with em when the Heat put them out. Bet Pierce n Garnett are like you traitorous bastard!! Lol
Pierce and Garnett are probably pissed. Want to see where Steve Nash ends up too.
I hope Nash ends up with the Knicks.
He wont. Only wants to play for three teams and Knicks arent on the list.
Can a Carmelo fan dream??
What are his three teams?
I take it back. He now is open to other options. Knicks, Lakers, Nets, Heat, Suns, and Mavericks are all on the table now.
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on June 26, 2012, 12:08:16 PM
I take it back. He now is open to other options. Knicks, Lakers, Nets, Heat, Suns, and Mavericks are all on the table now.
I think you can cancel out the Lakers, Suns, and Heat.
If I was a betting man...well I am...so I would put my money on Dallas.
Going by what I read, I think Knicks or Nets will get him.
I think the Knicks would benefit the most from having him because 1) he's been with Stoudemire before and knows how to work with him and 2) because he will keep the ball moving instead of stalling in Melo or Stoudemire's hands.
Minnesota is sending the 18th pick to the Rockets for Chase Budinger and a foreign prospect that likely won't ever see the league.
Houston is poised to move up and secure two top-ten picks and hope to entice the Magic to send Howard over. Things could get pretty interesting down this week!
Howard already has said he wouldnt stick around if they get him in Houston. However this might change his mind.
I agree. Nash would be perfect on the Knicks. He knows Amare and likes Lin too. Would be a great fit.
PG - Nash
SG - Shumpert/Fields
SF: Carmelo
PF: Stoudemire
C: Chandler
Bench:
Lin, Smith (if he resigns), Shumpert/Fields.
Not a bad 8.
Yeah Knicks will look good this season if they get Nash.
I'm sure I will get flack for this, but am I the only one who thinks Anthony Davis is not going to be as good as people think? The guy is a good rebounder and defender, but his offensive game is very limited. I don't see him being much better than Okafor, who they just traded.
I agree with you. Think he is really overhyped.
I think whoever gets Harrison Barnes is going to pleasantly surprise whoever drafts him. It seems as though the consensus is he will be around 15-17 pts a game, but I honestly think he will be in the 21-24 range. The guy has a sweet jumper and if he works on his ball handling a little more he can get to the basket as well.
Barnes is the guy I think will be good. Him and Kidd-Gilchrist.
There were vague rumours the Bulls would try and lure Nash for a season given whats going on with Rose. I doubt this will happen. To be honest I am just hoping to get through next season as a Bulls fan and look forward to us bringing over Nikola Mirotić at some stage. Looks a very good pick for the Bulls future.
I think the Bulls will be better served trading Deng. When he's not hurt he's hit or miss. One game he will explode for 30 and then the next three he will average 12 a game. I think he's too inconsistent for the long-term, but they could get good value for him.
why would nash want to go back to Dallas ... he started there...They traded him for jason kidd
I would like him to go to the lakers ... will not happen , but it would be nice.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/26/anthony-davis-files-trademarks-for-unibrow-phrases-ahead-of-nba-draft/?hpt=hp_c2 (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/26/anthony-davis-files-trademarks-for-unibrow-phrases-ahead-of-nba-draft/?hpt=hp_c2)
Quote from: JustinP on June 26, 2012, 03:25:30 PM
I think the Bulls will be better served trading Deng. When he's not hurt he's hit or miss. One game he will explode for 30 and then the next three he will average 12 a game. I think he's too inconsistent for the long-term, but they could get good value for him.
As much as it pains me as an Englishman to lose a guy who brings the opportunity of at least exhibition games here to the UK for the Bulls, I agree. I think his allstar selection last season was a bit sort of well unexpected from my point of view. However, I would be very surprised given Rose's problems if they pulled the trigger yet.
Quote from: JustinP on June 26, 2012, 04:46:20 PM
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/26/anthony-davis-files-trademarks-for-unibrow-phrases-ahead-of-nba-draft/?hpt=hp_c2 (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/26/anthony-davis-files-trademarks-for-unibrow-phrases-ahead-of-nba-draft/?hpt=hp_c2)
Pretty sure Austin Powers had that down lol.
Very amusing..
Lol I read that article the other day. Those trademarks are hilarious. Fear the Brow.
Apparently Pistons have sent Ben Gordon and a lottery protected 2013 first rounder to Charlotte for Corey Maggette.
Amare Stoudemire was fined $50,000 for tweeting a gay slur. Wow. Seems like the guy will never learn. First the fire extinguisher incident and now this.
Brandon Roy is going to be making a possible return to the NBA. It'll be interesting to see where he ends up.
Quote from: JustinP on June 26, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
I'm sure I will get flack for this, but am I the only one who thinks Anthony Davis is not going to be as good as people think? The guy is a good rebounder and defender, but his offensive game is very limited. I don't see him being much better than Okafor, who they just traded.
I'm not just saying this because I'm an unapologetic UK homer. But I haven't seen a prospect like Davis in a very long time.
When he first came to UK, I looked at him and thought "Man, this guy's too thin, he's gonna get shoved around all over the place!". A player of similar build and game, Perry Stevenson, had just graduated and was mostly a disappointment over his career (after coming to UK under a bit of hype), and I thought we were in for another season of a super-thin post player getting pushed out from beneath the basket by girl scouts. I couldn't have been more wrong.
Not only does he hold his own down low, he does so without making mistakes. He can pressure and defend without fouling, same with his shot blocking. He can board without shoving a guy out of the way. And his offensive game isn't as limited as it seems. At UK, he didn't have to be the go-to guy, he had guys like Doron Lamb and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Darius Miller who were considered the scorers. But when they DID get it to him, he scored (62% FGs). But despite not taking a lot of the shots (just the fourth most, behind Lamb, Terrence Jones and Marquis Teague), he still led the team in points per game (14.2).
The guy plain doesn't make mistakes, even as a freshman. I can't remember the last time I saw a frosh on ANY team come in and play with a senior's skill and maturity from Day 1. I'm just glad I got to witness it firsthand.
/tangent
Quote from: JackHondo on June 27, 2012, 07:55:32 AM
I'm not just saying this because I'm an unapologetic UK homer. But I haven't seen a prospect like Davis in a very long time.
When he first came to UK, I looked at him and thought "Man, this guy's too thin, he's gonna get shoved around all over the place!". A player of similar build and game, Perry Stevenson, had just graduated and was mostly a disappointment over his career (after coming to UK under a bit of hype), and I thought we were in for another season of a super-thin post player getting pushed out from beneath the basket by girl scouts. I couldn't have been more wrong.
Not only does he hold his own down low, he does so without making mistakes. He can pressure and defend without fouling, same with his shot blocking. He can board without shoving a guy out of the way. And his offensive game isn't as limited as it seems. At UK, he didn't have to be the go-to guy, he had guys like Doron Lamb and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Darius Miller who were considered the scorers. But when they DID get it to him, he scored (62% FGs). But despite not taking a lot of the shots (just the fourth most, behind Lamb, Terrence Jones and Marquis Teague), he still led the team in points per game (14.2).
The guy plain doesn't make mistakes, even as a freshman. I can't remember the last time I saw a frosh on ANY team come in and play with a senior's skill and maturity from Day 1. I'm just glad I got to witness it firsthand.
/tangent
Kevin Durant.
I live in Charlotte and am a Bobcats fan and I can say that I'm glad to see this trade happen. Maggette didn't cut it. I'm a fan of Ben Gordon from his days in Chicago and think he can get us 20 points a game that we so desparately need.
Maggette still serves a purpose in the NBA but he doesn't exactly help the Bobcats at this stage. Ben Gordon is a much better fit for them.
Carmelo Anthony too. I think Pistons got the better part of the deal.
They gave up Gordon and a first round pick. I don't see how Maggette will be able to better help their team.
That is very true.
Melo has dropped 12 pounds so far this offseason. He's got a rigorous workout plan that he is doing out in LA.
Melo is going to be a monster next season.
Deron Williams stay...God just MIGHT answer that prayer.
I hope he stays too. Been tweeting back and forth with the official Nets twitter account the past week. They are doing great with what they are doing PR wise.
Quote from: Arkia Fisk on June 27, 2012, 12:32:29 PM
Deron Williams stay...God just MIGHT answer that prayer.
No chance. He's going to Dallas and isn't going to think twice about it, IMO.
I don't understand the whole Dallas thing. Is that where he's from? I mean you have a great player in Dirk who in the next year or so will be on the decline and you have Jason Terry who is hoping to get a multi-year deal. What else is there to lure him to Dallas?
Yeah he is from Dallas.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/8104029/source-houston-rockets-make-trade-milwaukee-bucks-move-12 (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/8104029/source-houston-rockets-make-trade-milwaukee-bucks-move-12)
Deal officially done. Samuel Dalembert is now on the Milwaukee Bucks.
The TWolves are going to have one hell of an athletic team.
PG - Rubio
SG - Wesley Johnson
SF - Chase Budinger
PF - Derrick Williams
C - Kevin Love
There is a rumor Steve Nash is going to either the Knicks or Heat. Also Deron Williams was partying with Nets coach Avery Johnson last night so it is likely he is staying the Nets.
Nash
Wade
Ray Allen
Lebron
Udonis Haslem
Now that's a way to repeat.
The Heat also are looking at Chris Kaman, Jermaine O'Neal, Andre Miller, and Brandon Roy.
I'm a huge fan of Jermaine O'Neal, especially since he's from my hometown of Columbia, South Carolina, but I think his knees are too far gone for him to make a real impact. I think they would be better served going after Kaman, to give them that true center who want handicap them on offense like Joel Anthony.
Oh, I just noticed that I forgot to mention Bosh in my previous post.
Grant Hill was the other player on their list.
Knicks really pushing for Nash. Rockets making a big play with acquiring draft picks, likely for Dwight Howard.
I just don't understand the Rockets logic. You are making this big push for Howard who is not staying after the year is up. Why give away all that for a player who is going to be there only for a year? You're not going to win a championship with Howard, Scola, and Lowry.
Now they are trying to get the number five overall pick from Sacramento who shot that down once already but they are still negotiating. What are the Rockets thinking?
I wouldn't be surprised if they went after the Bobcats number two pick, which they would undoubtedly would have to give up two of the three first round picks and take Tyrus Thomas.
Only time will tell. They obviously are making a big play.
Bobcats need something...I think Gordon is a good fit, lets be frank he played on a very shit team, he'll be good for Charolette.
He is a solid scorer which is what they need.
I do realise I just controdicted myself since I implied the reason Gordon was shit was he was on a shit team...and then going to the Bobcats would make him not on a shit team.
Screw you brain.
Quote from: Trumpers on June 27, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
I do realise I just controdicted myself since I implied the reason Gordon was shit was he was on a shit team...and then going to the Bobcats would make him not on a shit team.
Screw you brain.
FBL burning the brain boss? ;)
Ben Gordon is a good scoring addition but I'm suprised about the draft pick being offered on top of that. Kind of a lot to me for Maggette.
But LA is obviously smoking some of that California good stuff asking for this....
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8103436 (http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8103436)
a top-10 pick in Thursday's draft. The Lakers also are seeking an established player along with the pick if they're to part with Gasol. And...sources say that the Lakers want teams to assume the final two years and $38 million of Gasol's contract.Smh...cocaine is a helluva drug. Lol. They must be crazy!
Ben Gordon's a good scorer, but he's not the "team leader" type, the go-to guy kind of player. He's not a Jordan. Heck, he's not even a Pippen really. He's more of a BJ Armstrong, if that makes any sense. Can score and make big plays, but Lord help you if he's your primary target.
Quote from: JackHondo on June 28, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
Ben Gordon's a good scorer, but he's not the "team leader" type, the go-to guy kind of player. He's not a Jordan. Heck, he's not even a Pippen really. He's more of a BJ Armstrong, if that makes any sense. Can score and make big plays, but Lord help you if he's your primary target.
Better he be your leading scorer than Gerald Henderson.
Can't dispute that. But at the same time, it's like trading in your Pinto for a Chevette. Gordon's a complimentary player, they need to either pick a star of the future in the draft tonight (Thomas Robinson, MKG or Harrison Barnes) or make sure they get someone really good in a trade.
No doubt about that. I honestly don't think MKG is that star player. The guy has an incredible motor and is great defensively and can slash, but his dribbling and jump shooting is suspect. As much as I would love to see Barnes in Charlotte, I think the team would be better suited taking Thomas Robinson.
Speaking of which, ESPN is reporting that the Bobcats have no less than five offers on the table for the second round pick.
I'd be willing to bet they trade out of #2.
I think it will take a lot to get that second pick. I think they will want a player, first round pick, and for the other team to take Tyrus Thomas. I'm excited to see what they will do. I think we will make a splash this offseason.
Uh oh... Looks like Sullinger isn't the only pick to get his career ruined by NBA docs.
Now they're saying Baylor's Perry Jones III has knee issues.
I heard that a few teams have backed out, saying the Bobcats want too much.
As they should. If I'm the Bobcats, and the Rockets get turned away in a Howard deal, I'm on the phone with Houston immediately. I'd want three of their first round picks and hopefully come away with three rotation players.
That would be ideal for them to do.
I've also read that the Thunder could send Harden to them for the #2 pick. It wouldn't solve all of their problems but would be a great start.
Putting Gordon as the sixth man would be ideal, IMO.
I would GLADLY take James Harden for the number two pick.
That would be an excellent deal both ways.
Three team deal in the works between Clippers, Mavs, and Jazz involving Mo Williams, Lamar Odom, and possibly draft picks.
Just heard that the Suns are pursuing Ray Allen.
Celtics are making a play for Austin Rivers and Bobcats are working on trading the number two pick.
I heard the Bobcats just selected Sam Bowie...
They just announced uni-brow Davis.
Quote from: Trumpers on June 28, 2012, 06:41:35 PM
I heard the Bobcats just selected Sam Bowie...
MKG, bobcats picked him up. Happy for my Jersey boy!!!
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist to bobcats
two Kentucky boys go one -two
Liked Beal going to the Wizards. Great pick by them.
Thomas Robinson is such a great story. Good for him.
So who do you think had the best draft? Hornets did amazing with their picks. Davis AND Rivers? That is a double bonus combo right there. Wizards getting Beal was a great pick up as well.
Clippers get Lamar Odom and the Jazz get Mo Williams in a three team deal. Looks Khloe and Lamar are going back to Los Angeles.
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on June 29, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
So who do you think had the best draft? Hornets did amazing with their picks. Davis AND Rivers? That is a double bonus combo right there. Wizards getting Beal was a great pick up as well.
I'm not a fan of Rivers. He's not a pass-first point guard who thinks he is better than what he really is.
I honestly think the Warriors did great with Barnes and the guy from Vandy.
I agree with justin ... rivers going to need to change his game. He was not a passing guard at duke ...
I watch his games ... he had shoot first .... shot second ...maybe pass on his mind every game
Rivers is the new Westbrook.
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on June 29, 2012, 09:33:03 PM
Rivers is the new Westbrook.
This.
Well, maybe a less talented Westbrook. But still. Agreed.
now with the draft over, who do you think did good in this year draft?
I can tell you who did bad. Cleveland.
Good workout or not, it just seems odd that you'd take the Cuse's sixth man at #4. Didn't Marvin Williams teach us that lesson? And when they mortgaged the rest of their draft for Tyler Zeller, I nearly died laughing. I bet Dallas thought they were being Punk'd when they got that call from the Cavs.
I said it in the shoutbox ... I bet the guy that took the phone called must have been working hard to keep from laughing when he got that call
ring ring ... hello Dallas Mavericks ... Cavs... number 17 pick ... three picks for it ... sure who do you want ... Zeller ... ok ,not a problem ... nice doing business with you... hang up
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
The Sports Guy Bill Simmons had a statement in his Draft Diary on GrantLand that I thought was prefect ... God hate Cleveland
I'm a Dion Waiters fan, the guy can get to the basket at will, but I will agree he was a reach at #4. Especially with Barnes still on the board.
Ward, I already asked that yesterday, lol. Toronto did bad. So did Indiana. Should have gotten Festus Azele.
Looks like Kevin Garnett is not retiring and is coming back to Boston. Brandon Roy is likely going to Minnesota.
we need to mike KG for the first Hornets- Celtics game ... pure fucking gold
Lol that game is going to be great.
NBA free agency starts in a few hours. Should be total chaos.
Let the chaos begin. Get this. Dwight Howard wants to be traded from the Magic to the Nets. That was known. However he said that the Magic blackmailed him and wants the players association to investigate. WOW. This situation is going to get ugly. Nets are also making moves to get Luis Scola, Joe Johnson, Jason Kidd, OJ Mayo, and resign Derron Williams. They are making lots of moves right now.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1242908-nba-trade-rumors-nets-discussing-potential-joe-johnson-trade-with-hawks?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=tsandroid (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1242908-nba-trade-rumors-nets-discussing-potential-joe-johnson-trade-with-hawks?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=tsandroid)
In terms of the NBA, whats the deal on giving extras to players. Ie I know there is a cap in place, but the Nets are big business because of the foreign owner right? Well I am assuming he cannot do much outside what the NBA allows him to do for base salary...so my assumption is he can do whatever he wants in terms of bonuses and extras etc.?
Honestly not sure how that works Ian, but since it is the pros, if he wants to buy a player a car, then I'm sure he can do that without issue.
I was sure he offered James a house somewhere when he was a free agent to come to Brooklyn or there was a rumour of this.
There has to be SOMETHING because I dont see the attraction of playing there otherwise or the relevance of a big spending GM if a cap limits him.
I think its all about money. They put new luxury tax rules in place this season to make things more even to help out the small market teams.
Hawks' Joe Johnson traded to the Nets
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8124182/brooklyn-nets-agree-trade-atlanta-hawks-joe-johnson-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8124182/brooklyn-nets-agree-trade-atlanta-hawks-joe-johnson-sources-say)
Hawks also trade guard Marvin Williams to the Jazz for Devin Harris
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8124428/atlanta-hawks-trade-marvin-williams-utah-jazz-devin-harris-according-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8124428/atlanta-hawks-trade-marvin-williams-utah-jazz-devin-harris-according-sources)
Dwight Howard will only sign with one team
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8121824/orlando-magic-dwight-howard-says-only-wants-traded-one-team (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8121824/orlando-magic-dwight-howard-says-only-wants-traded-one-team)
First pick in the draft Anthony Davis injures ankle in Hornets team workout
http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8122962/olympics-2012-anthony-davis-new-orleans-hornets-injured-miss-olympics (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8122962/olympics-2012-anthony-davis-new-orleans-hornets-injured-miss-olympics)
So my question for the Hawks is, where does that leave your team? You have Josh Smith and Al Horford(who you might trade) and Devin Harris. While that is a solid 3, the other players they've picked up aren't necessarily going to help you win.
Possible Howard deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8125453/orlando-magic-dwight-howard-go-brooklyn-nets-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8125453/orlando-magic-dwight-howard-go-brooklyn-nets-sources-say)
If you ask me, the Nets would be giving up too much. 3 first round picks?!?!
Orlando lost their minds with that. That is overkill. One? Yes. Three? I think not.
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on July 03, 2012, 10:32:29 AM
Orlando lost their minds with that. That is overkill. One? Yes. Three? I think not.
Pfftt they are just trying to Boise/Puerto Rico that whole thing...
Williams, Johnson, Wallace and Howard moves to number two in the East.
I don't think I'm held up by first round picks. The Nets are likely to be picking in the mid-20's if this trade goes through over the next several years. They probably aren't missing a whole lot there...especially with the way they have been drafting lately.
So Toronto signs Landry Fields to a poison pill contract just to screw the Knicks out of the Steve Nash sweepstakes.
Hahahahaaaa!
The NBA is slowly morphing into the E.
I don't think the Knicks will match it if they are serious about pursuing Nash. He's a decent player but is a little too inconsistent.
Thing is Justin, apparently the Knicks can only offer Nash a midlevel exception. Their plan was to do a sign and trade with Phoenix, so they could pay Nash more and to entice him to New York.
Thing is, the centerpiece of that sign and trade was Landry Fields.
Here's the article I was reading that explains it better.
http://deadspin.com/5923249/raptors-sign-landry-fields-solely-to-cockblock-the-knicks-on-steve-nash (http://deadspin.com/5923249/raptors-sign-landry-fields-solely-to-cockblock-the-knicks-on-steve-nash)
I still don't think they keep them and I would be inclined to say that Nash would rather take a mid-level exception instead of going to Toronto for 12 mil per. I think at this stage he wants to win and he has a better chance with the Knicks than the Raptors.
Jason Terry signs with the Celtics.
I have heard reports that the Rockets have offered Omar Asik crazy money...I mean he's alright and all...and I cant remember the exact figure, but it sounded kind of crazy!
Rockets are also making a play for Jeremy Lin as well. Lin is meeting with them tomorrow. Reggie Evans was traded by the Clippers to the Nets as well.
Deron Williams is going to be resigning with the Nets for a 5 year, $100 million deal. Nets are looking very good next season.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/07/03/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets/index.html?eref=twitter_feed (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/07/03/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets/index.html?eref=twitter_feed)
There has to be an incentive in playing there in terms of something their owner can offer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Prokhorov#Sports_and_patronage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Prokhorov#Sports_and_patronage)
The Asik deal is another of those poison pill deals that seem to be all the rage these days. Any team that tries to match will be in salary cap hell at the end of those contracts.
The players definitely won the lockout when they were able to sneak in the revision to the Arenas Rule that's allowing these underhanded deals.
Steve Nash is a Laker.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal)
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on July 04, 2012, 10:58:12 PM
Steve Nash is a Laker.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8130840/sources-steve-nash-headed-los-angeles-lakers-sign-trade-deal)
All the Lakers have to do now is find a way to get Dirk so I can hate them even more.
Im sorry, Im just not sold on a regressing 38 year old point guard. The Lakers are giving up a lot in terms of picks to get him. Could be a mistake.
Hurray another person to pass the ball to Kobe!
think it a great move
Michael Beasley going to the Suns.
Linsanity has now taken over Houston.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133715/source-new-york-knicks-jeremy-lin-agrees-sign-offer-sheet-houston-rockets (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133715/source-new-york-knicks-jeremy-lin-agrees-sign-offer-sheet-houston-rockets)
Jason Kidd to the Knicks.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133070/veteran-point-guard-jason-kidd-agrees-deal-new-york-knicks (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133070/veteran-point-guard-jason-kidd-agrees-deal-new-york-knicks)
Kyle Lowry traded from Rockets to Raptors
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8132460/toronto-raptors-acquire-houston-rockets-kyle-lowry-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8132460/toronto-raptors-acquire-houston-rockets-kyle-lowry-sources-say)
Brandon Roy is back.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8134240/reports-former-portland-trail-blazer-brandon-roy-reaches-verbal-agreement-minnesota-timberwolves (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8134240/reports-former-portland-trail-blazer-brandon-roy-reaches-verbal-agreement-minnesota-timberwolves)
I like Kidd to the Knicks. Should help the flow of the ball.
Yeah that is what the Knicks need big time so it is a good move.
Sources are saying that Ray Allen has decided to play for the Miami Heat.
http://tracking.si.com/2012/07/07/heat-owner-mickey-arison-welcomes-ray-allen/ (http://tracking.si.com/2012/07/07/heat-owner-mickey-arison-welcomes-ray-allen/)
The Heat are going to be absolutely dominant next year. I think they will repeat.
Lou Williams signs with the Hawks
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8154295/source-guard-lou-williams-reaches-agreement-atlanta-hawks (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8154295/source-guard-lou-williams-reaches-agreement-atlanta-hawks)
Timberwolves sign Russian guard Alexey Shved.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8151532/2012-nba-free-agency-minnesota-timerwolves-agree-russian-g-alexey-shved (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8151532/2012-nba-free-agency-minnesota-timerwolves-agree-russian-g-alexey-shved)
Devin Ebanks signed with the Lakers.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8154786/agent-devin-ebanks-los-angeles-lakers-agree-one-year-deal (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8154786/agent-devin-ebanks-los-angeles-lakers-agree-one-year-deal)
Heat sign Rashard Lewis.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8154260/sources-miami-heat-reach-agreement-forward-rashard-lewis (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8154260/sources-miami-heat-reach-agreement-forward-rashard-lewis)
I'm not sure where signing Rashard Lewis fits in with the Heat.
They're getting their solid bench together is the most likely explanation.
Word is now that Magic is working a deal to send Howard to the Lakers ... Byrum heads to the Rockets and Magic get draft picks and things ...
Cavs... pulled out of deal... I think common sense as finally shown up in Cavs land ... that four team deal would have made the nets stronger and weaken the Cavs
Here's the entire Dwight Howard trade deadlock story.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8156575/2012-nba-free-agency-brooklyn-nets-end-pursuit-dwight-howard-sources-says (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8156575/2012-nba-free-agency-brooklyn-nets-end-pursuit-dwight-howard-sources-says)
Brook Lopez resigned to the Nets after Howard deal falls through.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8157946/source-brooklyn-nets-agree-brook-lopez-60-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8157946/source-brooklyn-nets-agree-brook-lopez-60-million-deal)
Jeremy Lin not happy with Knicks.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8155983/jeremy-lin-upset-new-york-knicks (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8155983/jeremy-lin-upset-new-york-knicks)
Charles Barkley says the 1992 Dream Team would beat the 2012 Olympic Team in double digits...yeah, love Sir Charles. :)
http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8158008/charles-barkley-says-1992-dream-team-beat-2012-olympic-team-double-digits (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8158008/charles-barkley-says-1992-dream-team-beat-2012-olympic-team-double-digits)
Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis officially now on the Heat.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8156692/ray-allen-rashard-lewis-sign-miami-heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8156692/ray-allen-rashard-lewis-sign-miami-heat)
I hope Dwight Howard breaks his arm. I'm tired of his cry-baby ways.
The Dream Team would be the 2012 Olympic team by at least 15.
Mavs get Kaman.
Howard is a whiner. I think he will fit right in with the Lakers. :P
Team USA exhibition games to be televised by ESPN. I'm going to see the one tomorrow against the Dominican Republic here in Vegas.
http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_mnt_wnt_espn_exhibition.html (http://www.usabasketball.com/mens/national/12_mnt_wnt_espn_exhibition.html)
James, you live in Vegas?
Yep, born and raised.
Sweet, I love Vegas
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8157984/source-portland-trail-blazers-minnesota-timberwolves-discussing-nicolas-batum-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8157984/source-portland-trail-blazers-minnesota-timberwolves-discussing-nicolas-batum-deal)
Batum is not worth two first round draft picks.
He definitely is not.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8161833/report-charlotte-bobcats-agree-ramon-sessions-2-year-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8161833/report-charlotte-bobcats-agree-ramon-sessions-2-year-deal)
Ramon Sessions to the Bobcats!!! I love this pickup by the Bobcats. We get a consistent performer who can handle the ball and direct a team. I also believe he will be a better fit than DJ Augustine. I've also played against him in high school so it will be cool to go to the games and watch him play.
Dwight Howard still wants out of Orlando
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8159324/dwight-howard-nixes-orlando-magic-gm-rob-hennigan-new-plea-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8159324/dwight-howard-nixes-orlando-magic-gm-rob-hennigan-new-plea-source-says)
Blake Griffin out of the Olympics
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8160453/los-angeles-clippers-blake-griffin-injures-knee-team-usa-camp (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8160453/los-angeles-clippers-blake-griffin-injures-knee-team-usa-camp)
Team USA routs the Dominican Republic
http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8162397/kevin-durant-scores-24-leads-team-usa-dominican-republic (http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/basketball/story/_/id/8162397/kevin-durant-scores-24-leads-team-usa-dominican-republic)
Team USA exhibition game was fun to go to even though I got stuck sitting by a bunch of Lakers fans. At least I was able to find the other ten or so Clippers fans in the audience while walking around, lol. Most fun players to watch were Andre Igoudola, Kevin Love, Kevin Durant, and, despite the limited minutes, Anthony Davis. He is going to be exciting to watch. James Harden was good too. Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, and Russell Westbrook were great on defense. Overall fun despite the lopsided score. Scary moment when one of the Dominican Republic players suffered what appeared to be a severe knee or ankle injury. Hope it wasn't too serious.
I loved the fact that Coach K had them full court pressing and trapping. I wish the NBA would actually play defense like that more often. Though I will admit, I'm not fond of having Anthony Davis on the team.
I think Davis is a nice addition
I like Davis. He was impressive when in the game.
Linsanity heads to Houston
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8164374/source-jeremy-lin-signs-three-year-offer-sheet-houston-rockets (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8164374/source-jeremy-lin-signs-three-year-offer-sheet-houston-rockets)
Elton Brand to the Mavs
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8164479/dallas-mavericks-claim-elton-brand-waivers-wining-waiver-bid (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8164479/dallas-mavericks-claim-elton-brand-waivers-wining-waiver-bid)
Kwame Brown to the 76ers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8163813/philadelaphia-76ers-sign-kwame-brown-2-year-6-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8163813/philadelaphia-76ers-sign-kwame-brown-2-year-6-million-deal)
George Hill and Roy Hibbert stay with the Pacers.
Pacers also sign D.J. Augustin.
[url]http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8163662/indiana-pacers-sign-former-charlotte-bobcats-guard-dj-augustin][http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8164675/indiana-pacers-re-sign-center-roy-hibbert-guard-george-hill/url]
Pacers also sign D.J. Augustin.
[url]http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8163662/indiana-pacers-sign-former-charlotte-bobcats-guard-dj-augustin (http://[http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8164675/indiana-pacers-re-sign-center-roy-hibbert-guard-george-hill/url)
Bulls trade Kyle Korver to the Hawks.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8164492/report-chicago-bulls-trade-shooter-kyle-korver-atlanta-hawks (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8164492/report-chicago-bulls-trade-shooter-kyle-korver-atlanta-hawks)
Dwight Howard getting on Charles Barkley's nerves.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/332512-howard-getting-on-barkleys-nerves?sct=nba_bf1_a4&eref=fromSI&eref=fromSI (http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/332512-howard-getting-on-barkleys-nerves?sct=nba_bf1_a4&eref=fromSI&eref=fromSI)
Ainge says Allen left them.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8166155/danny-ainge-says-boston-celtics-lose-ray-allen-miami-heat-left-us (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8166155/danny-ainge-says-boston-celtics-lose-ray-allen-miami-heat-left-us)
Brendan Haywood joins the Bobcats.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8166665/sources-charlotte-bobcats-get-winning-bid-center-brendan-haywood (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8166665/sources-charlotte-bobcats-get-winning-bid-center-brendan-haywood)
KG, Bass, and Wilcox return to Boston.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/14/celtics-officially-sign-garnett.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a3 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/14/celtics-officially-sign-garnett.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a3)
Pistons sign Kravtsov to contract.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/14/detroit-pistons-vyacheslav-kravtsov.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/14/detroit-pistons-vyacheslav-kravtsov.ap/index.html?sct=nba_t2_a5)
Jason Kidd arrested and charged with DWI.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8168193/jason-kidd-new-york-knicks-arrested-charged-dwi (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8168193/jason-kidd-new-york-knicks-arrested-charged-dwi)
Jeremy Lin leaving the Knicks?
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8168185/2012-nba-free-agency-new-york-knicks-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-sheet-source-says (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8168185/2012-nba-free-agency-new-york-knicks-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-sheet-source-says)
Kyrie Irving breaks hand.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8167467/cleveland-cavaliers-guard-kyrie-irving-breaks-right-hand-las-vegas-practice (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8167467/cleveland-cavaliers-guard-kyrie-irving-breaks-right-hand-las-vegas-practice)
With the Knicks picking up Felton, Lin is ghost.
OJ Mayo signs with the Dallas Mavericks.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks)
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on July 17, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
OJ Mayo signs with the Dallas Mavericks.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks)
Damn good move.
Quote from: James V, The Calvary's Franchise on July 17, 2012, 09:44:23 AM
OJ Mayo signs with the Dallas Mavericks.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8172520/source-oj-mayo-agrees-multiyear-deal-dallas-mavericks)
I'm a big OJ Mayo fan. I think he has the potential to score 25 points a game, but really didn't get that chance in Memphis.
Dallas didn't start off well in the free agent frenzy but this move is really good for them.
Wizards use Amnesty Clause on Andray Blatche.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8174865/washington-wizards-use-amnesty-clause-troubled-forward-andray-blatche (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8174865/washington-wizards-use-amnesty-clause-troubled-forward-andray-blatche)
Grant Hill signs with the Clippers.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8174031/2012-nba-free-agency-los-angeles-clippers-agree-contract-grant-hill-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8174031/2012-nba-free-agency-los-angeles-clippers-agree-contract-grant-hill-sources-say)
Mike Miller returning to the Heat.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8174883/miami-heat-mike-miller-retire-hopes-avoid-back-surgery (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8174883/miami-heat-mike-miller-retire-hopes-avoid-back-surgery)
Lin headed to Houston? High likely.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8174651/new-york-knicks-plan-not-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-report-says (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8174651/new-york-knicks-plan-not-match-jeremy-lin-houston-rockets-offer-report-says)
Jason Kidd declinded alcohol tests after his DWI.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8174747/police-say-new-york-knicks-jason-kidd-declined-alcohol-tests-scene-car-accident (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8174747/police-say-new-york-knicks-jason-kidd-declined-alcohol-tests-scene-car-accident)
How well will Lin fit into the Rockets' offense?
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47881/will-lin-transition-to-rockets-offense (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47881/will-lin-transition-to-rockets-offense)
2012 NBA Draft: The Nintendo Edition
QuoteSB Nation breaks down the team needs for the top 5 picks in this year's NBA Draft, and simulates the draft by choosing the Nintendo character most suited for each team.
2012 NBA Draft: Nintendo Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tr798FivP0#ws)
Official: Knicks not matching Rockets offer for Lin. Linsanity heading to Houston.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8175591/new-york-knicks-confirm-match-houston-rockets-offer-jeremy-lin (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8175591/new-york-knicks-confirm-match-houston-rockets-offer-jeremy-lin)
Jeremy Lin wanted to stay on the Knicks.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8177587/jeremy-lin-says-interview-preferred-stay-new-york-knicks (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8177587/jeremy-lin-says-interview-preferred-stay-new-york-knicks)
Cavaliers in Magic/Lakers talks for Howard.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8176960/sources-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-partner-potential-dwight-howard-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8176960/sources-cleveland-cavaliers-trade-partner-potential-dwight-howard-deal)
Boston Celtics sign Jason Terry.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8176132/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-give-jason-terry-midlevel-exception (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8176132/2012-nba-free-agency-boston-celtics-give-jason-terry-midlevel-exception)
Antawn Jamison signs with the Lakers.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8178315/source-antawn-jamison-join-los-angeles-lakers-one-year-deal (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8178315/source-antawn-jamison-join-los-angeles-lakers-one-year-deal)
Blazers match Wolves offer for Batum.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8178326/portland-trail-blazers-match-minnesota-timberwolves-offer-nicolas-batum (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8178326/portland-trail-blazers-match-minnesota-timberwolves-offer-nicolas-batum)
Antawn Jamison is a good pick up
I agree. If the Lakers get Howard to go along with him and Nash they'll be in really good shape.
Y'all think Kobe will get that 6th ring?
If they get Howard ... There chances get really good
Suns, Timberwolves, and Hornets involved in three team deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8200060/report-robin-lopez-joins-new-orleans-hornets-3-team-trade (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8200060/report-robin-lopez-joins-new-orleans-hornets-3-team-trade)
Jeremy Pargo traded to Cavs for DJ Kennedy.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8200570/memphis-grizzlies-trade-jeremy-pargo-second-round-pick-cash-cleveland-cavaliers-dj-kennedy (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8200570/memphis-grizzlies-trade-jeremy-pargo-second-round-pick-cash-cleveland-cavaliers-dj-kennedy)
Complete NBA 2012-13 season schedule now online.
http://www.nba.com/gameline/20121030/ (http://www.nba.com/gameline/20121030/)
NBA national television schedule for next season.
http://www.nba.com/schedules/national_tv_schedule/index.html (http://www.nba.com/schedules/national_tv_schedule/index.html)
Dissecting the schedule.
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/26/plenty-to-look-forward-to-with-release-of-2012-13-schedule/ (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/26/plenty-to-look-forward-to-with-release-of-2012-13-schedule/)
Dwight Howard is going to the Lakers. Sources are saying the deal is official. This is a MONSTER deal. Igoudala goes to Denver and Bynum goes to Philly along with Jason Richardson. At least eight players being moved amongst four teams. Big deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8252042/sources-dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-four-team-deal-complete (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8252042/sources-dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-four-team-deal-complete)
Well at least a team can shut Lebron and his weiner gang up now. Even if it is the Lakers.
I;d like to see Nash get a ring
happy with the trade ...Lakers going to be a big contender in the West now
don't sell the Bulls short ... When Rose gets back from injury the Bulls are going to give the Heat a run
also you get the idea the Magic panic ... just a little bit
Quote from: Trumpers on August 10, 2012, 09:36:16 AM
Well at least a team can shut Lebron and his weiner gang up now. Even if it is the Lakers.
I;d like to see Nash get a ring
Only reasons I'll cheer for the Lakers this season: 1. When Dallas is eliminated 2. Nash winning a ring 3. If its LA vs Miami in the Finals.
But man Orland came out looking like idiots in this trade, they got shit in return for what they traded.
Nash winning the ring is why I'll root for the Lakers while he is there. I HOPE he gets one at least. That would be great.
Dwight Howard is a bitch.
NBA starts tomorrow! YAY!
Let's get some predictions in:
MVP -
Defensive Player of the Year -
Sixth Man -
Rookie of the Year -
Playoff Teams -
East:
West:
NBA Finals -
NBA Champions -
James Harden is about to be a monster in the NBA.
MVP - LeBron
Defensive Player of the Year - LeBron
Sixth Man - JR Smith
Rookie of the Year - Damien Lillard
Playoff Teams -
East: Heat, Celtics, Knicks, Bulls, Hawks, 76ers, Nets, Magick
West: Spurs, Lakers, Thunder, Blazers, Nuggets, Mavs, Clippers, Rockets
NBA Finals - Heat vs. Spurs
NBA Champions - Heat
Quote from: JustinP on November 01, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
James Harden is about to be a monster in the NBA.
OKC is going to come to regret that trade - big time. That's the perfect system to have two guys like Lin/Harden. If Asik can put up 12-8 for the season and they can get something out of their wings, look out.
Rockets are legit contenders out west now because of that trade. Lakers are going to take time to gel. Thunder are clearly going to need time to adjust to not having Harden.
MVP - James Harden
Defensive Player of the Year - Serge Ibaka
Sixth Man - JR Smith
Rookie of the Year - Damian Lillard
Playoff Teams -
East: Heat, Pacers, Celtics, Knicks, Bulls, Sixers, Nets, Bucks, Hawks
West: Lakers, Clippers, Thunder, Spurs, Rockets, Nuggets, Grizzlies, Mavs
NBA Finals - Heat vs. Clippers
NBA Champions - Clippers (Clip Show upset city playoff run, predicting it now)
Mike Brown has been fired as the Lakers coach. I had always questioned why they hired him in the first place.
He never should've been hired to begin with. He's a horrible coach.
This isn't NBA but Jack Taylor of Grinnell University scored 138 points in a college game. Unreal. Kid can shoot the ball. I do hear some FBL teams are interested in this prospect as well. :)
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8658462/jack-taylor-grinnell-drops-138-points-collegiate-scoring-record (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8658462/jack-taylor-grinnell-drops-138-points-collegiate-scoring-record)
Fight broke out tonight during the Nets/Celtics game tonight.
http://www.nba.com/video/games/celtics/2012/11/28/0021200211-bkn-bos-play4.nba/index.html?ls=iref:nbahppt (http://www.nba.com/video/games/celtics/2012/11/28/0021200211-bkn-bos-play4.nba/index.html?ls=iref:nbahppt)
There are reports that the New Orleans Hornets to become the New Orleans Pelicans in 2013-2014 season.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21264614/report-hornets-to-change-name-to-new-orleans-pelicans-in-2013-2014 (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21264614/report-hornets-to-change-name-to-new-orleans-pelicans-in-2013-2014)
The Pelicans is a horribly embarrassing mascot. Seriously, New Orleans?
Good, that means the Bobcats can go back to the Hornets!
Kobe Bryant becomes youngest player to reach 30,000 points.
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/12/05/lakers-kobe-bryant-30000-points.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2012/news/12/05/lakers-kobe-bryant-30000-points.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
NBA Playoff odds for every team in the league. Interesting read.
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds)
The Lakers are in trouble. Howard isn't playing up to standards, Gasol is wuss, Nash is out, and no matter what he thinks Kobe can't do it by himself.
On the other hand, the Knicks are playing some good basketball and Carmelo is off to a great start this season.
I just don't see where L.A. is going to be able to compete with the top of the West. Nash may actually make them worse on defense - and Gasol can't get out of diapers.
This team has zero depth. You cannot have Chris Duhon starting in the NBA (which coming from a major Duke fan is really hard to say). Antwan Jamison can't be depended on to produce any longer, he's simply a 8th-9th man off the bench at this point in his career. Jodie Meeks is a solid bench player and probably should flourish the more time he spends in D'Antoni's system.
Optimally, they should go out and get J.J. Redick from the Magic, and slot Kobe in to the 3. Nash, Redick, Kobe, Gasol and Howard with Artest, Meeks, Blake and Jamison off the bench. They aren't getting in to the top-4 in the West, but I think that lineup locks them 6-7, which at this point, would be a miracle.
Lakers will not make the playoffs. I'm calling it right now. The Knicks are playing great. There's a lot of decent teams out there that are playing better than the Lakers. Minnesota of all teams can beat them out for the last playoff spot. So can Houston with Fear the Beard and Linsanity. Thunder and Spurs are the top two out west followed closely by the Grizzlies and Clippers. Lakers are 10th best MAYBE.
Amir Johnson suspended for a game for throwing mouthpiece at referee.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8738674/amir-johnson-toronto-raptors-suspended-one-game-throwing-mouthpiece-referee (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8738674/amir-johnson-toronto-raptors-suspended-one-game-throwing-mouthpiece-referee)
DeMarcus Cousins suspended for a game for giving O.J. Mayo a low blow during the Kings/Mavs game.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8741205/demarcus-cousins-sacramento-kings-suspended-one-game-striking-oj-mayo-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8741205/demarcus-cousins-sacramento-kings-suspended-one-game-striking-oj-mayo-dallas-mavericks)
I cannot wait till Dirk returns, him + mayo is gonna be deadly.
Quote from: Gary on December 12, 2012, 08:07:25 PM
I cannot wait till Dirk returns, him + mayo is gonna be deadly.
Agreed. Dallas is going to be a force when he returns.
Yeah, as a die hard Lakers fan. Not looking good.
Saw a stat where the Lakers are better off with Kobe doing less, which is crazy.
This is what I want the Lakers to do... learn to play transition defense. Solving that problem will make a HUGE difference. They need to slow the tempo down a little... until Nash comes back, all the D'Antoni offense does is cause problems going back the other way. Plus Blake is hurt too, so they are working with their 3rd string PG... not good.
Kobe is killing it though, but I feel he's reverted back to his old self in terms of not trusting his teammates to help with the load. Not a good sign. Season is still very young and I would be shell shocked if they did not make the playoffs. If anything Kobe will get them the 8 seed.
I do think things will change for the better when Nash comes back though.
More NBA weirdness: Referee tries to block Kris Humphries free throw attempt.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21381849/video-a-ref-tries-to-block-kris-humphries-free-throw (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21381849/video-a-ref-tries-to-block-kris-humphries-free-throw)
NBA's Top Trade Candidates. Interesting article with some good players mentionned in it.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-s-top-trade-candidates-000418190.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nba-s-top-trade-candidates-000418190.html)
Current NBA Power Rankings on ESPN.com and NBA.com.
Hollinger's rankings -
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein's Rankings -
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
NBA.com Rankings -
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
My favorite basketball team, the Los Angeles Clippers, have won their 12th in a row to break the franchise win streak record.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278108 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278108)
Quote from: GM Franchise on December 22, 2012, 01:08:07 AM
My favorite basketball team, the Los Angeles Clippers, have won their 12th in a row to break the franchise win streak record.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278108 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278108)
You're a Clips fan? I'm sorry. My Uncle is a diehard Clips fan. But hey it's their first year they've been better then the Lakers... I think... ever.
Hopefully my Lakers can right the ship. Unfortunately it all depends on how much different our team does once Nash gets back. It's too bad were doing so bad when Kobe is having career numbers. I have faith we turn this around though.
Nothing to be sorry about. I grew up watching them and the Lakers all the time on Prime Sports and Fox Sports West when I was a kid. However I think that the Clippers pulled me in more because they would lose most of the time when they were on the TV.
The Lakers are falling apart. Nash coming back isn't going to be the answer. There are too many issues for them to deal with. Kobe and Meeks are the only bright spots on the entire roster. Honestly with them not hiring Phil Jackson a turn around is going to be a few seasons away.
Weekly NBA Power Rankings Update.
NBA.com Power Rankings -
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Power Rankings -
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Power Rankings -
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Christmas NBA Top 10 Plays. Some good stuff in here.
Top 10 Plays of the Night: Christmas Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eyi5pRrskM#ws)
I absolutely loved the Knicks Christmas uniform. They would have been perfect with black lettering and numbers.
Knicks had the best Christmas uniforms out of all the teams.
Did you see the Christmas sweaters Griffin and Paul wore after the game?
Yeah I did. That's how my Clippers roll on Christmas day.
JR Smith's AMAZING buzzer beating game winner in Phoenix. One of the best shots I've ever seen in basketball.
J.R. Smith's buzzer-beating game-winner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjuxHYzlenE#ws)
That's his second game winning buzzer beater in like two weeks. Definitely one helluva shot.
Nets fire Coach Avery Johnson after 14-14 start.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8783854/avery-johnson-fired-brooklyn-nets-starting-14-14 (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8783854/avery-johnson-fired-brooklyn-nets-starting-14-14)
I don't agree with this. 1) I think Deron Williams is becoming a problem child. 2) Avery Johnson is not a bad coach. It pisses me off that these coaches get fired at the drop of a dime when at the end of the day its the players on the court that you are overy paying to do a job they aren't doing well enough.
I agree about Williams. The guy is turning into a diva. Avery Johnson is not the problem on that team. The team is overpaid and not living up to expectations. That has to be factored in by team management.
I'm a huge fan of Gerald Wallace and his style of play, but he is vastly overpaid to be at the point he is at in his career. Joe Johnson is a great player, but is being paid entirely too much. Deron Williams is a great point guard, but at times lacks the consistency and when he struggles he blames someone else. Terrible decision by management.
Nets want Phil Jackson as their Coach. Things are getting interesting in Brooklyn.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8785395/brooklyn-nets-establish-phil-jackson-top-coaching-target-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8785395/brooklyn-nets-establish-phil-jackson-top-coaching-target-sources-say)
Los Angeles Clippers win their 15th in a row. So happy. :)
Dwayne Wade suspended one game for kicking Ramon Sessions in the balls.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8785342/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-suspended-one-game-action-ramon-sessions (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8785342/dwyane-wade-miami-heat-suspended-one-game-action-ramon-sessions)
I hate this season.
Why? Are you a Lakers fan?
16 in a row for the Clippers. I love this season. Best Clippers team ever.
Lakers one win in row!
jon ...lakers had a 6 game win streak earlier this week... glad there starting to string wins together
Gary in hell at the moment
Dallas does not look good at all. Lakers are okay but nowhere near the top of the West like they normally are.
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com Power Rankings -
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/powerrankings/12/31/week9/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6c (http://www.nba.com/2012/news/powerrankings/12/31/week9/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6c)
Stein Power Rankings -
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Hollinger Power Rankings-
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Kobe calls the Lakers old.....in other words....they suck and he's pissed about it.
Of course they're old. Kobe is 34 and four of the five starters are over age 30.
And suddenly Dallas is looking like a capable team, sure we lost last night, but we took the defending Champs, to OT, on the road, on the second night of the back to back. Oh yeah and last night Dirk actually returned.
You guys have a bonafide scorer in OJ Mayo (I wish Jordan would have went after him for the Bobcats). With Dirk back it will help with scoring but you will still need that third guy to help out.
Our third guy is Vince Carter, he can be inconsistent but when he's on. He is on. I have no Championship hopes for this team but the last 2 games they have started to gel better.
I would say Vince, but like you pointed out he's inconsistent and at this point in his career he is more inconsistent that he is on. I think with a few more games with Dirk back in the lineup things will begin to turn around and you will see them reel off 8 or 9 wins in a row.
More NBA bizareness: Stephen Jackson hurt after falling into the waitress who was serving New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Not joking.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8811226/stephen-jackson-san-antonio-spurs-falls-waitress-sprains-ankle (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8811226/stephen-jackson-san-antonio-spurs-falls-waitress-sprains-ankle)
Clippers beat the Lakers. YAY! :D
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278208 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278208)
Royce White wasn't the best draft pick for the Rockets...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8818221/houston-rockets-suspend-royce-white-cite-breach-contract (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8818221/houston-rockets-suspend-royce-white-cite-breach-contract)
Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Garnett scuffle after game
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8823531/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-sought-confront-boston-celtics-loss-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8823531/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-sought-confront-boston-celtics-loss-sources-say)
Scott Skiles out as Bucks coach.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8823781/report-scott-skiles-milwaukee-bucks-agreed-part-ways (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8823781/report-scott-skiles-milwaukee-bucks-agreed-part-ways)
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com Rankings
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225502/Kings_Finalizing_Sale_To_Seattle_Group (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225502/Kings_Finalizing_Sale_To_Seattle_Group)
SuperSonics are coming back. Sucks for Kings fans.
Quote from: Gary on January 09, 2013, 02:17:58 PM
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225502/Kings_Finalizing_Sale_To_Seattle_Group (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225502/Kings_Finalizing_Sale_To_Seattle_Group)
SuperSonics are coming back. Sucks for Kings fans.
Love this news. It's been strange seeing Seattle without basketball.
How Sacramento got a team is beyond me. Glad the Sonics are coming back. That used to be one of my favorite teams.
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com Rankings
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/01/14/week11/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6a (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/01/14/week11/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt6a)
Hollinger Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Good news, Mavericks fans. The Bank of Cuban is open.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8845345/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-says-bank-cuban-open (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8845345/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-says-bank-cuban-open)
NBA All Star teams to be announced tomorrow.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1485479-nba-all-star-game-2013-when-and-where-to-catch-starting-lineup-announcement (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1485479-nba-all-star-game-2013-when-and-where-to-catch-starting-lineup-announcement)
The thought Jeremy Lin as an All-Star makes me wanna vomit.
At least Kwame Brown isn't mentionned in it...
Quote from: Gary on January 15, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
The thought Jeremy Lin as an All-Star makes me wanna vomit.
+1
Spurs sued by Lawyer for resting top players.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8847216/san-antonio-spurs-sued-lawyer-resting-top-players (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8847216/san-antonio-spurs-sued-lawyer-resting-top-players)
Sacramento Mayor to present Counteroffer for Kings.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8846577/mayor-kevin-johnson-present-counteroffer-sacramento-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8846577/mayor-kevin-johnson-present-counteroffer-sacramento-kings)
Quote from: GM Franchise on January 16, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
Spurs sued by Lawyer for resting top players.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8847216/san-antonio-spurs-sued-lawyer-resting-top-players (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8847216/san-antonio-spurs-sued-lawyer-resting-top-players)
Sacramento Mayor to present Counteroffer for Kings.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8846577/mayor-kevin-johnson-present-counteroffer-sacramento-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8846577/mayor-kevin-johnson-present-counteroffer-sacramento-kings)
That lawyer should be disbarred for filing such a stupid lawsuit. And I still don't think the Spurs should have been fined for what they did.
I agree. The Spurs were smart for doing what they did. Good team management. However the lawsuit will likely be thrown out since NBA stars have been rested in games before without any lawsuits because of it.
NBA All Star starters announced.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/17/all-star-2013-starters-announced/index.html (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/17/all-star-2013-starters-announced/index.html)
And this is the perfect example of why the fans shouldn't vote for all-star games. Dwight Howard does not belong in the All-Star game. He has performed nowhere near an All-Star level.
Quote from: JustinP on January 17, 2013, 07:55:26 PM
And this is the perfect example of why the fans shouldn't vote for all-star games. Dwight Howard does not belong in the All-Star game. He has performed nowhere near an All-Star level.
It turns out Charles Barkley was right all along...
Chuck making fun of bb fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6_qEnXG5c#ws)
Suns let go of coach Alvin Gentry.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8857447/the-phoenix-suns-parted-ways-coach-alvin-gentry (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8857447/the-phoenix-suns-parted-ways-coach-alvin-gentry)
NBA was great last night. Some amazing shots from last night's games. Great stuff.
Kyle Lowry hits an amazing three pointer.
Lowry's incredible three "from North Philly!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nn8ozlxk2Y#ws)
Bellinelli's amazing game winning shot to put the Bulls over the Celtics.
Belinelli's wild game-winner in Overtime! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPXcq6jQpBo#ws)
O.J. Mayo clutch three pointer ties the game.
Mayo's clutch 3-pointer ties the game! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUkKORQJf9g#ws)
Lindsey Hunter named Phoenix Suns interim coach.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8862243/phoenix-suns-name-lindsey-hunter-interim-coach (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8862243/phoenix-suns-name-lindsey-hunter-interim-coach)
The Sacramento Kings have been sold to a Seattle group. Move to Seattle is likely to follow.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8864092/sacramento-kings-owners-reach-agreement-seattle-group-buy-team (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8864092/sacramento-kings-owners-reach-agreement-seattle-group-buy-team)
Heat sign Chris Anderson to 10 day contract.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8862210/miami-heat-sign-veteran-chris-andersen-10-day-contract (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8862210/miami-heat-sign-veteran-chris-andersen-10-day-contract)
Anderson Varajao out for season after developing blood clot.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8865449/cleveland-cavaliers-anderson-varejao-rest-season-blood-clot (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8865449/cleveland-cavaliers-anderson-varejao-rest-season-blood-clot)
Grizzlies/Cavaliers make multi-player trade.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8868058/memphis-grizzlies-cleveland-cavaliers-agree-multiplayer-trade (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8868058/memphis-grizzlies-cleveland-cavaliers-agree-multiplayer-trade)
Gasol to play from the bench
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8867466/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-come-bench (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8867466/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-come-bench)
Lakers mulling trading away Dwight Howard.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8871264/sources-los-angeles-lakers-consider-trading-dwight-howard (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8871264/sources-los-angeles-lakers-consider-trading-dwight-howard)
Two days late but here's the weekly Franchise NBA Power Rankings Updates.
NBA.com Power Rankings
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Stein Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Hollinger Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Sacramento Mayor and former NBA player Kevin Johnson tells Seattle not to celebrate too early.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8870677/kevin-johnson-mayor-sacramento-tells-seattle-celebrate-too-early (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8870677/kevin-johnson-mayor-sacramento-tells-seattle-celebrate-too-early)
Lakers GM says D'Antoni is not the Lakers problem
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8871522/mitch-kupchak-los-angeles-lakers-says-team-problem-effort-not-mike-dantoni (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8871522/mitch-kupchak-los-angeles-lakers-says-team-problem-effort-not-mike-dantoni)
They are going to have to move Dwight. It's a failed experiment at this point - it's obvious that he can't coexist with Kobe. I'd assume when they ship out Howard, they'll listen to offers for Nash as well.
The Lakers are complete disaster this season. The only bigger disaster out west is Phoenix. Dwight and Kobe do not get along, D'Antoni's system does not work with, Gasol is not fititng into the system, and about the only bright spots other than Kobe are Earl Clark and Metta World Peace.
Howard was the only real viable option in Orlando which allowed him to put up inflated numbers points wise. It's obvious he can't share the paint with another big man and can only be the only big man in order for him to produce. Plus he's a big f'n baby. Nash is good for the team, but can't do much with shitty big man play. The pick and roll isn't there. And even though Mike D'Antoni doesn't believe in defense, these guys are professionals and know how to play defense. You guard your man, help on picks, and help on the weakside down low. Not that hard.
Suns Coach Lindsey Hunter subject of FBI investigation into mortgage fraud, Jermaine O'Neal gets into argument with Suns GM
http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/22/jermaine-oneal-injury-lindsey-hunter-fbi-suns/ (http://tracking.si.com/2013/01/22/jermaine-oneal-injury-lindsey-hunter-fbi-suns/)
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/1/22/3903490/lindsey-hunter-was-targeted-by-fbi-for-mortgage-fraud (http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/1/22/3903490/lindsey-hunter-was-targeted-by-fbi-for-mortgage-fraud)
The New Orleans Hornets to announce change to Pelicans at Thursday press conference.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--new-orleans-hornets-to-announce-change-to-pelicans-at-thursday-news-conference-181328311.html;_ylt=AjR69kGkB63vWBjCZQ2Fe8M5nYcB;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0dTBpaWM5BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBTUE9SVFMgRlAEcGtnAzM1MTcwZDgzLWNlOTYtMzI0Ni04YTllLTdkZWFmNzBlOWQ2YgRwb3MDMgRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzljMmMyYmUzLTY1OTEtMTFlMi05M2VlLTY1Y2IzNDdhZjhjMA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3 (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--new-orleans-hornets-to-announce-change-to-pelicans-at-thursday-news-conference-181328311.html;_ylt=AjR69kGkB63vWBjCZQ2Fe8M5nYcB;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0dTBpaWM5BG1pdANGRUFUVVJFRCBNZWdhdHJvbiBTUE9SVFMgRlAEcGtnAzM1MTcwZDgzLWNlOTYtMzI0Ni04YTllLTdkZWFmNzBlOWQ2YgRwb3MDMgRzZWMDbWVnYXRyb24EdmVyAzljMmMyYmUzLTY1OTEtMTFlMi05M2VlLTY1Y2IzNDdhZjhjMA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3)
More Suns coaching change fallout. The Suns top two assistant coaches, including a personal favorite of mine Dan Majerle, have left the team.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8871707/two-top-assistants-leave-phoenix-suns-coaching-shakeup (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8871707/two-top-assistants-leave-phoenix-suns-coaching-shakeup)
Dan Majerle finally speaks out about what happened with the Suns and the coaching situation.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/20130123dan-majerle-felt-like-he-deserved-shot-at-being-suns-coach.html?sf8886262=1 (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/20130123dan-majerle-felt-like-he-deserved-shot-at-being-suns-coach.html?sf8886262=1)
Lakers hold team meeting to air grievances and Kobe contronts Dwight Howard during the meeting.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8875019/los-angeles-lakers-hold-team-meeting-air-grievances (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8875019/los-angeles-lakers-hold-team-meeting-air-grievances)
Pelicans nickname backstory and history
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/01/23/hornets-or-pelicans-whats-in-a-name/ (http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/01/23/hornets-or-pelicans-whats-in-a-name/)
Dwight Howard aggravates shoulder injury
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8875031/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-aggravates-shoulder-memphis-grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8875031/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-aggravates-shoulder-memphis-grizzlies)
NBA All-Star Reserves announced.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/24/all-star-reserves-2013/index.html (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/24/all-star-reserves-2013/index.html)
Noah and the Danger for the Bulls on the team YES YES YES
Hornets officially becoming the Pelicans, new logo also unveiled.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8878315/new-orleans-hornets-announce-name-change-pelicans (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8878315/new-orleans-hornets-announce-name-change-pelicans)
Boston Celtics were ahead of the Hawks by 27 points...and then lost in overtime by a team record 12 points
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278353 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278353)
Lebron hugs and tackles fan who makes halfcourt shot
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8882923/fan-embraced-lebron-james-sinking-half-court-shot (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8882923/fan-embraced-lebron-james-sinking-half-court-shot)
Middle schooler with Down's Syndrome hits two three pointers in a game.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8875653/owen-groesser-middle-schooler-syndrome-makes-3-point-baskets-junior-high-game (http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/8875653/owen-groesser-middle-schooler-syndrome-makes-3-point-baskets-junior-high-game)
Mark Jackson upset over Stephen Curry All-Star Snub
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8882638/mark-jackson-golden-state-warriors-upset-stephen-curry-snub (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8882638/mark-jackson-golden-state-warriors-upset-stephen-curry-snub)
DeMar DeRozan's amazing game winning shot.
DeMar DeRozan's INCREDIBLE game-winner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLgYmZH14K4#ws)
Breaking NBA News. Rajon Rondo out for the season with a torn ACL. WOW.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21619482/rajon-rondo-suffers-torn-acl (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21619482/rajon-rondo-suffers-torn-acl)
D'Antoni says less scoring from Kobe a good thing.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8884925/los-angeles-lakers-coach-mike-dantoni-says-kobe-bryant-assists-looked-sacrificing (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8884925/los-angeles-lakers-coach-mike-dantoni-says-kobe-bryant-assists-looked-sacrificing)
Kyrie Irving game winner.
Kyrie Irving's Game-Winner from downtown! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XcQmOQO78Q#ws)
Wild play leads to Henderson game winning shot.
Wild play ends with Henderson game-winner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEcRav8NI3I#ws)
DeMar DeRozan's unreal game winning shot.
DeMar DeRozan's INCREDIBLE game-winner! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLgYmZH14K4#ws)
Dallas' D-League affiliate wants to sign Allen Iverson.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8889753/allen-iverson-eyed-dallas-mavericks-d-league-affiliate-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8889753/allen-iverson-eyed-dallas-mavericks-d-league-affiliate-sources-say)
This is why I LOVE Inside the NBA. Funniest sports show on television.
Inside the NBA crew makes fun of Charles for getting his eyebrows done 1-24-13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r1QsZUBYtc#ws)
Inside The Nba - New Orleans Pelicans - (25-1-13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-WnHy4IQNE#ws)
One of Charles Barkley funniest quotes on TNT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACiuN8PPBVQ#)
Charles Barkley Funny Halftime Comment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_O-VGdVISw#)
TNT Inside the NBA: Charles Barkley vs Ron Artest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pypXIRnBr1g#)
Inside the NBA - Kobe Bryant Jumps Over Aston Martin Parody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgGj8cBa2C0#)
Toronto Raptors trying to trade with the Grizzlies for Rudy Gay. Celtics are also in discussions for him. This could get interesting especially if he ends up in Boston.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8891818/rudy-gay-subject-active-trade-discussions-toronto-raptors-memphis-grizzlies-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8891818/rudy-gay-subject-active-trade-discussions-toronto-raptors-memphis-grizzlies-sources)
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com Rankings
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
NBA.com Midseason Report Cards
http://www.nba.com/reportcard/midseason/2013/knicks/?ls=iref:nbahpt3c (http://www.nba.com/reportcard/midseason/2013/knicks/?ls=iref:nbahpt3c)
Pau Gasol upset again over being benched in the fourth quarter during the Lakers/Hornets game.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8896445/pau-gasol-upset-being-benched-again-4th-quarter-lakers-win-hornets (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8896445/pau-gasol-upset-being-benched-again-4th-quarter-lakers-win-hornets)
Quote from: GM Franchise on January 30, 2013, 10:22:04 AM
Pau Gasol upset again over being benched in the fourth quarter during the Lakers/Hornets game.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8896445/pau-gasol-upset-being-benched-again-4th-quarter-lakers-win-hornets (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8896445/pau-gasol-upset-being-benched-again-4th-quarter-lakers-win-hornets)
It's not like Gasol was doing much out there. Honestly, the best lineup for the Lakers is to go small with Artest at the four. Earl Clark is playing excellent basketball and you can't take him out of the starting lineup now.
The Lakers are winning by running the offense through Kobe. It's a big difference from him being the
only offense. Howard is starting to pick it up a little... and with Meeks, Blake and Gasol coming off the bench, they're getting a little support from the bench.
The Lakers are still on life-support but if they can make a push, the 8th seed isn't out of reach.
Lakers are still a mess but they are better when Kobe is passing more than shooting. The past few games have been the best they've played. Earl Clark is the perfect fit for the starting line-up and the switch to put Gasol on the bench is working. Meeks has been hot at times this season as well. Lakers need Blake back because they're weak at the point guard position. The Lakers will be lucky to get the 8th seed. I like Portland and Houston better than them overall. Lakers are 5 games out of the 8th seed but I do think they will pass Utah at some point and maybe either Portland or Houston. Those are the four teams fighting for the last spot. The other teams ahead of them (Clippers, Spurs, Nuggets, Warriors, Thunder, Grizzlies) I think will make the playoffs.
Grizzlies trading Rudy Gay to the Raptors
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8898673/sources-memphis-grizzlies-agree-principle-trade-rudy-gay-toronto-raptors (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8898673/sources-memphis-grizzlies-agree-principle-trade-rudy-gay-toronto-raptors)
More bad news for Laker Nation: Dwight Howard has a shoulder injury again.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8900442/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-shoulder-injury-re-evaluated (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8900442/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-shoulder-injury-re-evaluated)
Russell Westbrook loses cool and storms to the locker room during the Thunder/Grizzlies game.
http://nba.si.com/2013/01/31/russell-westbrook-argument-mo-cheeks-locker-room-thunder-grizzlies/ (http://nba.si.com/2013/01/31/russell-westbrook-argument-mo-cheeks-locker-room-thunder-grizzlies/)
Westbrook is nothing but a big cry baby.
Celtics lose Jared Sullinger for the season due to back surgery.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8906116/jared-sullinger-boston-celtics-done-season-due-back-surgery (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8906116/jared-sullinger-boston-celtics-done-season-due-back-surgery)
NBA Players Association head Billy Hunter placed on indefinite leave.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8904880/billy-hunter-head-nba-players-association-placed-indefinite-leave (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8904880/billy-hunter-head-nba-players-association-placed-indefinite-leave)
And an interesting one from Miami. Dwayne Wade proding Lebron to play in the Three Point Shootout and Slam Dunk Contest.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8905660/dwyane-wade-prods-lebron-james-play-slam-dunk-3-point-contests (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8905660/dwyane-wade-prods-lebron-james-play-slam-dunk-3-point-contests)
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist carted off court after collision with teammate.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8909306/michael-kidd-gilchrist-charlotte-bobcats-carted-collision-teammate-jeff-taylor (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8909306/michael-kidd-gilchrist-charlotte-bobcats-carted-collision-teammate-jeff-taylor)
Tim Duncan injures ankle and knee against Wizards.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8909168/tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-injures-knee-ankle-washington-wizards (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8909168/tim-duncan-san-antonio-spurs-injures-knee-ankle-washington-wizards)
Rick Carlisle fined for criticizing referees.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8908148/nba-fines-rick-carlisle-dallas-mavericks-comments-referees (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8908148/nba-fines-rick-carlisle-dallas-mavericks-comments-referees)
Here's video of the Kidd-Gilchrist injury.
http://www.nba.com/video/games/rockets/2013/02/03/0021200699-cha-hou-play5.nba/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/video/games/rockets/2013/02/03/0021200699-cha-hou-play5.nba/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
Erik Spoelstra will coach Eastern Conference All Star team.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/03/erik-spoelstra-all-star/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/03/erik-spoelstra-all-star/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
Metta World Peace at it again. Brandon Knight says he was punched by him during the game at the Palace today.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8912064/brandon-knight-detroit-pistons-says-metta-world-peace-punched-him (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8912064/brandon-knight-detroit-pistons-says-metta-world-peace-punched-him)
Interesting bit of news. The Clippers are interested in a trade for Kevin Garnett.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8911420/los-angeles-clippers-interested-deal-boston-celtics-kevin-garnett-report-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8911420/los-angeles-clippers-interested-deal-boston-celtics-kevin-garnett-report-says)
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com Power Rankings
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Updated Hollinger Playoff Odds.
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds)
Last night Lebron James shot 13/14 from the field, 8 rebounds, and had 8 assists. It was one of the best nights with that many shots in NBA history.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278431 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278431)
Quote from: GM Franchise on February 05, 2013, 10:41:08 AM
Last night Lebron James shot 13/14 from the field, 8 rebounds, and had 8 assists. It was one of the best nights with that many shots in NBA history.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278431 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278431)
If he was smart he'd do that in every game. When he drives to the hoop, he's almost unstoppable. He's an average shooter at best, but has been getting better in that field. Still, he needs to drive, drive, drive.
Quote from: Jon on February 05, 2013, 11:08:10 AM
If he was smart he'd do that in every game. When he drives to the hoop, he's almost unstoppable. He's an average shooter at best, but has been getting better in that field. Still, he needs to drive, drive, drive.
I agree. If he continues this formula then he will repeat as MVP and make his team better as a whole.
Michael Beasley of the Suns cited for suspended license. In other words more bad PR for the Suns in a season full of it.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8915480/michael-beasley-phoenix-suns-cited-suspended-license (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8915480/michael-beasley-phoenix-suns-cited-suspended-license)
Stephen A. Smith's Extended Conversation with Dwight Howard
Dwight Howard: Extended Conversation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OtQev5Y-wY#ws)
Gasol injures foot in Lakers win over Nets.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8919808/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-injures-foot-vs-brooklyn-nets-undergo-mri (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8919808/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-injures-foot-vs-brooklyn-nets-undergo-mri)
Houston Rockets tie NBA record with 23 Three pointers made in a game.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278438 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278438)
Paul Gasol out four to six weeks with foot injury.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8923175/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-tear-plantar-fascia-right-foot (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8923175/pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-tear-plantar-fascia-right-foot)
Seattle group has filed for relocation of Kings.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8923556/david-stern-says-seattle-group-bid-sacramento-kings-filed-relocation (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8923556/david-stern-says-seattle-group-bid-sacramento-kings-filed-relocation)
Dwight Howard fires back at critics and Kobe. More Lakers drama. :D
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8926084/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-tired-people-questioning-shoulder-injury (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8926084/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-tired-people-questioning-shoulder-injury)
The Dwight signing has turned into a nightmare. I want him gone. He might be more soft then Gasoft himself.
But I've been spoiled to with having Kobe, who has played through just about every injury he has ever had.
Howard is pathetic. With all of his whining and griping he did in Orlando and now in LA, he doesn't deserve to be on a team.
Howard is like an FBL character with some of the whining he does, lol.
Sprite Slam Dunk participants revealed.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/as.dunk.contest/02/07/2013-dunk-contest-participants-official-release/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/as.dunk.contest/02/07/2013-dunk-contest-participants-official-release/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
Quote from: GM Franchise on February 07, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
Sprite Slam Dunk participants revealed.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/as.dunk.contest/02/07/2013-dunk-contest-participants-official-release/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/as.dunk.contest/02/07/2013-dunk-contest-participants-official-release/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
Thrilled to see Green and White in there. Those two had a dunk contest in Russia a few years ago and it was insane. Find it on YouTube. White did a windmill from the free throw line. Nuts!
Full list of All Star Saturday Night participants.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21664294/2013-nba-all-star-saturday-night-participants-announced (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21664294/2013-nba-all-star-saturday-night-participants-announced)
And here's the Team Shaq vs. Team Chuck draft for the Rising Stars teams.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21664310/charles-barkley-and-shaquille-oneal-pick-rising-stars-rosters (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21664310/charles-barkley-and-shaquille-oneal-pick-rising-stars-rosters)
Pau Gasol's injury is confirmed. However the timetable has gone from 4-6 weeks as reported yesterday to a minimum of 6-8 weeks.
http://proxy.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8923175/report-pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-partially-torn-plantar-fascia (http://proxy.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8923175/report-pau-gasol-los-angeles-lakers-partially-torn-plantar-fascia)
Nets/Bobcats talking about a possible Kris Humphries for Ben Gordon deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8930504/brooklyn-nets-charlotte-bobcats-talking-ben-gordon-kris-humphries-deal-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8930504/brooklyn-nets-charlotte-bobcats-talking-ben-gordon-kris-humphries-deal-sources-say)
Raptors/Bulls talking about a Carlos Boozer for Andrea Bargnani deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8927362/chicago-bulls-toronto-raptors-talking-carlos-boozer-andrea-bargnani-swap-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8927362/chicago-bulls-toronto-raptors-talking-carlos-boozer-andrea-bargnani-swap-sources-say)
Jason Richardson out for the year because of bad knee.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8930423/jason-richardson-philadelphia-76ers-year-knee-injury (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8930423/jason-richardson-philadelphia-76ers-year-knee-injury)
Shawn Marion won't report to "bad team" if traded.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8930370/shawn-marion-dallas-mavericks-accept-trade-bad-team (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8930370/shawn-marion-dallas-mavericks-accept-trade-bad-team)
Miami Heat dealing with the flu. Dwayne Wade, Ray Allen, and Chris Bosh all have it and likely will not play tonight.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8929571/miami-heat-dwyane-wade-chris-bosh-ray-allen-flu-sit-friday-vs-los-angeles-clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8929571/miami-heat-dwyane-wade-chris-bosh-ray-allen-flu-sit-friday-vs-los-angeles-clippers)
I hope the bulls pull the trigger on the trade so they don't have the void the contract of boozer.
It would be a good trade for both teams.
Lebron James is having a streak to remember. Lebron is amazing. He scored 125 points in his last four games while missing ONLY 16 shots. That is unreal. NEVER seen a stat line like that before from any player. He has averaged 31 pts per game, made 55 out of his 77 shots, and is shooting 71% from the field over the last 5 games.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/09/heat-lebrons-numbers.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/09/heat-lebrons-numbers.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
Nets are trying to work a trade with the Hawks for Josh Smith.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8934969/josh-smith-being-pursued-brooklyn-nets-trade-talks-according-sources (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8934969/josh-smith-being-pursued-brooklyn-nets-trade-talks-according-sources)
Warriors have new short-sleeve uniforms.
Warriors Unveil Short-Sleeve Jerseys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97fCwGufJ1c#ws)
Parker, Duncan, and Ginobili to sit tonight. Wonder if Coach Pop will be fined again?
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8938030/tony-parker-tim-duncan-manu-ginobili-all-vs-chicago-bulls (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8938030/tony-parker-tim-duncan-manu-ginobili-all-vs-chicago-bulls)
Shumpert to Suns trade unlikely.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8932756/iman-shumpert-new-york-knicks-unlikely-traded-phoenix-suns-point-according-source (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8932756/iman-shumpert-new-york-knicks-unlikely-traded-phoenix-suns-point-according-source)
Here's this week's Power Rankings...
NBA.com Power Rankings:
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Power Rankings:
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Power Rankings:
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Things are getting interesting in Lakerland. Kobe is now saying that the conflict between himself and Dwight Howard has been manufactured by the media.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8938397/kobe-bryant-says-conflict-dwight-howard-was-manufactured-media (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8938397/kobe-bryant-says-conflict-dwight-howard-was-manufactured-media)
Leandro Barbosa has a torn ACL
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8941183/leandro-barbosa-boston-celtics-torn-acl (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8941183/leandro-barbosa-boston-celtics-torn-acl)
Derrick Rose says he's far away from return.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8940269/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-said-far-away-returning (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8940269/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-said-far-away-returning)
Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson tells NBA Board to hear them out before moving the team to Seattle.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8940855/sacramento-mayor-kevin-johnson-nba-board-hear-us-out (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8940855/sacramento-mayor-kevin-johnson-nba-board-hear-us-out)
Interesting article comparing Lebron to Jordan.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8939726/coast-coast-comparing-lebron-james-michael-jordan (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8939726/coast-coast-comparing-lebron-james-michael-jordan)
Lebron sets NBA record in win.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278490 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278490)
Nets are interested in Jazz's Millsap.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8942329/report-brooklyn-nets-interest-paul-millsap-utah-jazz (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8942329/report-brooklyn-nets-interest-paul-millsap-utah-jazz)
The Nets are interested in everybody. They know the combination of Reggie Evans and Andrey Blatche aren't the answer to go alongside Lopez.
Hedo Turkoglu suspended 20 games for positive test of banned substance.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8944820/hedo-turkoglu-orlando-magic-suspended-20-games-positive-test (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8944820/hedo-turkoglu-orlando-magic-suspended-20-games-positive-test)
Quote from: JustinP on February 13, 2013, 11:59:11 AM
The Nets are interested in everybody. They know the combination of Reggie Evans and Andrey Blatche aren't the answer to go alongside Lopez.
The Nets are looking to wheel and deal. They are clearly looking to trade big. What they should do is look for a big man who can rebound which is what they need. They need a rebounder to compliment Lopez and that can give them more of a defensive presence on the court.
NBA All Star Weekend is upon so here's some All Star Weekend videos I've found to get pumped up for this weekend.
Michael Jordan vs. Dominique Wilkins, Slam Dunk Finals - 1988
Michael Jordan vs Dominique Wilkins : 1988 Slam Dunk Contest [Classics] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0G71v8K68#ws)
Vince Carter Dunk Contest - 2000
Vince Carter Slam Dunk Contest 2000 (Every Dunk) - GQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImAMVqA6mug#ws)
32 Best Slam Dunks from the Slam Dunk Contest, Parts 1 and 2
32 Best Dunks in All Star Slam Dunk Competition (1/2) [32-15] [2005] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJcSDmUgyBE#)
32 Best Dunks in All Star Slam Dunk Competition (2/2) [Top 14] [2005] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PRksuAaoT4#)
The Lost Dunks
"The Lost Dunks" - TNT Entire 1 Hour Special (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsf_eVD3p9s#ws)
1986 Three Point Shootout Finals (first ever finals), Larry Bird vs. Craig Hodges
Craig Hodges - 1986 3 Point Shootout (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bTc2Urbr7s#)
1988 Three Point Shootout Finals, Dale Ellis vs. Larry Bird
1988 Three - Point Shootout Larry Bird vs Dale Ellis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6OeoT4vkw#)
Derrick Rose may sit out this season.
p://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8946403/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-says-there-chance-return-season (http://p://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8946403/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-says-there-chance-return-season)
Carmelo Anthony hurt arm, may miss All Star Game.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8946447/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-suffers-arm-contusion-miss-2013-nba-all-star-game (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8946447/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-suffers-arm-contusion-miss-2013-nba-all-star-game)
Gary Payton, Mitch Ritchmond, and Tim Hardaway are Hall of Fame Finalists.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8952098/gary-payton-tim-hardaway-hall-fame-finalists (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8952098/gary-payton-tim-hardaway-hall-fame-finalists)
NBA adds all historical statistics to their website.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8951483/nba-adds-all-historical-statistics-website (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8951483/nba-adds-all-historical-statistics-website)
Lakers and Celtics talking possible Dwight Howard for Rajon Rondo deal.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21710534/whats-right-for-dwight-will-lakers-deal-howard (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21710534/whats-right-for-dwight-will-lakers-deal-howard)
Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak shoots down Howard/Rondo trade talk rumors.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8953762/no-talks-dwight-howard-rajon-rondo-trade-says-los-angeles-lakers-gm-mitch-kupchak (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8953762/no-talks-dwight-howard-rajon-rondo-trade-says-los-angeles-lakers-gm-mitch-kupchak)
"The Manimal" Kenneth Faried's 40 points earn MVP in the Rising Stars game.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8953767/kenneth-faried-40-earn-mvp-honors-rising-stars-tilt (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8953767/kenneth-faried-40-earn-mvp-honors-rising-stars-tilt)
NBA All Star Saturday Night is tonight. Here's some more Slam Dunk Contest highlights to get pumped up for tonight.
Blake Griffin 2011 Dunk Contest highlights.
Blake Griffin 2011 Slam Dunk Contest Complete Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URRoTxpq4og#ws)
Isiah Rider 1994 Dunk Contest highlights.
Isaiah Rider 1994 slam dunk contest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOtzd4kz9s#)
1984 Slam Dunk Contest - Full (The first NBA sponsored Dunk Contest)
NBA Slam Dunk Contest 1984 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY5m-y-K4I#ws)
1988 Slam Dunk Contest - Full
NBA Slam Dunk Contest 1988 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dov0D8q6xAc#ws)
There is a rumor floating around that Michael Jordan is going to suit up during the All-Star Game tomorrow evening.
Jazz and Clippers talking Bledsoe for Millsap trade.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8956469/los-angeles-clippers-utah-jazz-talk-eric-bledsoe-paul-millsap-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8956469/los-angeles-clippers-utah-jazz-talk-eric-bledsoe-paul-millsap-sources-say)
Stern says that Kings staying Sacramento is plausible.
http://espn.go.com/nba/allstar2013/story/_/id/8955571/david-stern-says-sacramento-kings-staying-sacramento-plausible (http://espn.go.com/nba/allstar2013/story/_/id/8955571/david-stern-says-sacramento-kings-staying-sacramento-plausible)
I stopped watching the All Star game weekend like 10 years ago. It's almost as bad as the Pro Bowl.
I just watch the Saturday Night stuff since there's always some interesting stuff going on there plus I like the three point shootout and the slam dunk contest.
West beats East to win the NBA All Star Game. Chris Paul becomes the first Clipper ever to win All Star Game MVP. Very happy to be a Clipper fan this season. Been waiting YEARS for this. :)
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400436572 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400436572)
Los Angeles Lakers owner Jerry Buss has died.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8959182/jerry-buss-los-angeles-lakers-owner-dies-80 (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8959182/jerry-buss-los-angeles-lakers-owner-dies-80)
Quote from: GM Franchise on February 18, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
Los Angeles Lakers owner Jerry Buss has died.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8959182/jerry-buss-los-angeles-lakers-owner-dies-80 (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8959182/jerry-buss-los-angeles-lakers-owner-dies-80)
Best owner of all time.
RIP.
Updated NBA Power Rankings through yesterday.
NBA.com Power Rankings
http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/ (http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/)
Hollinger Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein Power Rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
Hollinger Playoff Odds
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds)
Sources in Boston are saying Rondo is available to trade but a trade is unlikely.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8966326/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-available-trade-unlikely-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8966326/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-available-trade-unlikely-sources-say)
Coach Vinny Del Negro says Clippers trading at the trade deadline is highly unlikely. Eric Bledsoe has been the most rumored player to be traded on the team.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8967981/vinny-del-negro-says-los-angeles-clippers-unlikely-make-moves (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8967981/vinny-del-negro-says-los-angeles-clippers-unlikely-make-moves)
Josh Smith of the Hawks tuning out trade talk. Bucks, Celtics, and Nets are all interested in him.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8967066/josh-smith-atlanta-hawks-not-worrying-trade-deadline (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8967066/josh-smith-atlanta-hawks-not-worrying-trade-deadline)
As far as Smith is concerned, the Celtics could use him. He would get in the way with the Nets...and the Bucks...I don't see him and Ellis playing together.
They could trade him to Utah for Millsap but that's probably not even on their radar as a trade possibility.
Thomas Robinson dealt in three team deal. Kings are sending Robinson, Francisco Garcia, and Tyler Honeycutt to the Rockets for Patrick Peterson, Cole Aldrich, and Toney Douglas. Suns are also a part of the deal and they get Marcus Morris. Now the Suns will have both Morris twins.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8968568/reports-thomas-robinson-2012-no-5-overall-pick-dealt-sacramento-kings-houston-rockets (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8968568/reports-thomas-robinson-2012-no-5-overall-pick-dealt-sacramento-kings-houston-rockets)
Lakers moving tribute to Jerry Buss before tonight's game against the Celtics.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8969251/los-angeles-lakers-honor-late-owner-dr-jerry-buss (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8969251/los-angeles-lakers-honor-late-owner-dr-jerry-buss)
Last minute trades galore.
JJ Reddick traded to the Bucks.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8971697/orlando-magic-trade-jj-redick-milwaukee-bucks-according-source (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8971697/orlando-magic-trade-jj-redick-milwaukee-bucks-according-source)
Jordan Crawford traded to Celtics for Leandro Barbosa.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8971369/boston-celtics-acquire-jordan-crawford-washington-wizards-leandro-barbosa (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/8971369/boston-celtics-acquire-jordan-crawford-washington-wizards-leandro-barbosa)
Sebastian Telfair traded to Raptors.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8971428/phoenix-suns-trade-sebastian-telfair-toronto-raptors-hamed-haddadi-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8971428/phoenix-suns-trade-sebastian-telfair-toronto-raptors-hamed-haddadi-sources)
Dexter Pittman traded to Grizzlies.
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8971382/miami-heat-trade-center-dexter-pittman-memphis-grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/8971382/miami-heat-trade-center-dexter-pittman-memphis-grizzlies)
ESPN Trade Tracker
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8963366/nba-trade-tracker-2013 (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8963366/nba-trade-tracker-2013)
Celtics got the best deal out of all those.
I agree. Bucks got the second best deal because of Reddick. He'll likely be used as a compliment to Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings.
Moved to correct thread.
NBA........
Jerry Buss remembered at memorial service today.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/21/jerry-buss-memorial.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/21/jerry-buss-memorial.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
A lot of Lakers news in recent days.
Lakers fuming over Mark Cuban's remarks about giving Kobe "amnesty" this offseason.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8976442/los-angeles-lakers-call-mark-cuban-remarks-kobe-bryant-inappropriate (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8976442/los-angeles-lakers-call-mark-cuban-remarks-kobe-bryant-inappropriate)
Jerry Buss buried in private ceremony.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8975524/lakers-owner-jerry-buss-buried-private-ceremony (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8975524/lakers-owner-jerry-buss-buried-private-ceremony)
Kobe vows that Lakers will make the playoffs.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8972377/kobe-bryant-confident-los-angeles-lakers-make-playoffs-according-report (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8972377/kobe-bryant-confident-los-angeles-lakers-make-playoffs-according-report)
Howard, Nash back Kobe's playoff promise.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8975843/steve-nash-dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-back-kobe-bryant-guarantee (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8975843/steve-nash-dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-back-kobe-bryant-guarantee)
In non-Lakers news, Andrew Bogut is out indefinitely again for the Warriors.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8976694/andrew-bogut-golden-state-warriors-indefinitely-back-spasms (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8976694/andrew-bogut-golden-state-warriors-indefinitely-back-spasms)
Bogut will be like Yao Ming....having to retire before his playing days are truly over.
I agree with that. His injuries will be his undoing.
Thunder had signed Derek Fisher.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8982543/sources-oklahoma-city-thunder-trying-bring-back-derek-fisher (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8982543/sources-oklahoma-city-thunder-trying-bring-back-derek-fisher)
Weekly NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com power rankings
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/02/25/week17/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3a (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/02/25/week17/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3a)
Hollinger power rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein power rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/_/year/2013/week/17 (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings/_/year/2013/week/17)
Taj Gibson of the Chicago Bulls has a sprained left MCL.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8989850/source-taj-gibson-chicago-bulls-sprained-left-mcl (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/8989850/source-taj-gibson-chicago-bulls-sprained-left-mcl)
Dennis Rodman goes to North Korea
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8990116/dennis-rodman-worms-way-north-korea (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8990116/dennis-rodman-worms-way-north-korea)
More on Rodman in North Korea
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/world/asia/north-korea-globetrotters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/world/asia/north-korea-globetrotters/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
Video of Rodman in North Korea
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/26/heres-a-video-of-dennis-rodman-in-north-korea/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/26/heres-a-video-of-dennis-rodman-in-north-korea/)
Lebron James makes fun of Mante Te'o's 40 yard dash time, lol
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1545598-lebron-james-makes-fun-of-manti-teos-40-yard-dash-time?hpt=hp_t3 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1545598-lebron-james-makes-fun-of-manti-teos-40-yard-dash-time?hpt=hp_t3)
There was a fight during the Pacers/Warriors game tonight. All players on the floor became involved. Started with Roy Hibbert and David Lee before escalating into bedlam.
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/26/pacers-warriors-scuffle.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/26/pacers-warriors-scuffle.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-subs-u&v=eiDctmHq5GM (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-subs-u&v=eiDctmHq5GM)
ESPN was talking about the fight again this morning. I think there migth be a suspension or two. Hibbert is most likely to be suspended.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8994420/golden-state-warriors-indiana-pacers-fight-spills-indianapolis-crowd (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8994420/golden-state-warriors-indiana-pacers-fight-spills-indianapolis-crowd)
Roy Hibbert and David Lee both suspended one game for the fight. Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, and Lance Stephenson were each fined $35,000 dollars each for their roles in the fight.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8996307/roy-hibbert-david-lee-receive-1-game-suspensions (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8996307/roy-hibbert-david-lee-receive-1-game-suspensions)
Doug Collins calls out Sixers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8995449/doug-collins-criticizes-philadelphia-76ers-lack-effort (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8995449/doug-collins-criticizes-philadelphia-76ers-lack-effort)
Wizards broadcast team mistakes air ball for game winning shot.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3ePwDPp-Q (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NT3ePwDPp-Q)
Steph Curry drops 54.
He had the game of the year last night.
Quote from: GM Franchise on February 28, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
He had the game of the year last night.
Would have been if they were able to win...
That is a good point. Warriors needed that win.
Sacramento mayor unveils plan to keep Kings in Sacramento.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9001228/mayor-kevin-johnson-reveals-plan-keep-sacramento-kings-moving-seattle (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9001228/mayor-kevin-johnson-reveals-plan-keep-sacramento-kings-moving-seattle)
Here's the ESPN reap of the GMs I went to. I'll post my own recap of what happened later including the arguments and mini-scuffles that happened as well as the injuries that happened.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278594 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278594)
Tony Parker out 4 weeks with ankle injury. BIG blow to the Spurs but I still expect them to keep on winning.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9007618/tony-parker-san-antonio-spurs-likely-miss-4-weeks-due-sprained-ankle (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9007618/tony-parker-san-antonio-spurs-likely-miss-4-weeks-due-sprained-ankle)
Magic offers Lebron $1 mil to do Dunk Contest.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9006651/magic-johnson-offers-lebron-james-1-million-do-dunk-contest (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9006651/magic-johnson-offers-lebron-james-1-million-do-dunk-contest)
Sacramento group officially submitted their bid to keep the Kings in Sacramento.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9003412/nba-receives-bid-kings-sacramento-group (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9003412/nba-receives-bid-kings-sacramento-group)
US distances itself from Dennis Rodman's North Korea visit.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9003374/us-criticizes-north-korea-wining-dining-dennis-rodman (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9003374/us-criticizes-north-korea-wining-dining-dennis-rodman)
Kris Humphries odd man out of Nets rotation.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9023621/source-kris-humphries-taken-brooklyn-nets-rotation (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9023621/source-kris-humphries-taken-brooklyn-nets-rotation)
Serge Ibaka fined, not suspended after low blow on Blake Griffin.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9020248/serge-ibaka-oklahoma-city-thunder-fined-25000-hit-blake-griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9020248/serge-ibaka-oklahoma-city-thunder-fined-25000-hit-blake-griffin)
Blake Griffin's stunned reaction to the Ibaka non-suspension.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9020356/blake-griffin-surprised-nba-suspend-serge-ibaka-punch-groin (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9020356/blake-griffin-surprised-nba-suspend-serge-ibaka-punch-groin)
Jermaine O'Neal sits because of daughter's surgery.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9020099/jermaine-oneal-leave-phoenix-suns-daughter (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9020099/jermaine-oneal-leave-phoenix-suns-daughter)
NBA to play 8 preseason games overseas.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9017895/nba-play-8-preseason-games-overseas-venues (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9017895/nba-play-8-preseason-games-overseas-venues)
Marcin Gortat likely out for he rest of the season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9028940/marcin-gortat-phoenix-suns-likely-miss-rest-season (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9028940/marcin-gortat-phoenix-suns-likely-miss-rest-season)
Derron Williams sets NBA record with 9 three pointers in a half.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9033227/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-sets-nba-record-3-pointers-half-nine (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9033227/deron-williams-brooklyn-nets-sets-nba-record-3-pointers-half-nine)
Derrick Rose cleared to play.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9031045/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-cleared-play-waiting-dunk-confidently-left-foot-source-says (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9031045/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-cleared-play-waiting-dunk-confidently-left-foot-source-says)
Amare Stoudemire out six weeks for left knee procedure.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9035257/amare-stoudemire-six-weeks-left-knee-procedure (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9035257/amare-stoudemire-six-weeks-left-knee-procedure)
Demarcus Cousins ejected for flagrant elbow during the Kings loss to the Bucks last night.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278661 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278661)
Kyrie Irving out 3-4 weeks with shoulder sprain.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9040626/cleveland-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-3-4-weeks-shoulder-sprain (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9040626/cleveland-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-3-4-weeks-shoulder-sprain)
Raptors Andrea Bargnani done for the season with elbow injury.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9047390/andrea-bargnani-toronto-raptors-done-season (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9047390/andrea-bargnani-toronto-raptors-done-season)
Caron Butler out a week with elbow injury. Lots of elbow related injuries this week.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9041568/los-angeles-clippers-caron-butler-miss-one-week-elbow-strain (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9041568/los-angeles-clippers-caron-butler-miss-one-week-elbow-strain)
BREAKING huge basketball news. Kobe Bryant is out indefinitely with a sprained ankle suffered in tonight's loss to the Hawks. Wow.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21868781/video-lakers-kobe-bryant-injures-his-ankle-x-rays-negative (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21868781/video-lakers-kobe-bryant-injures-his-ankle-x-rays-negative)
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 13, 2013, 10:56:49 PM
BREAKING huge basketball news. Kobe Bryant is out indefinitely with a sprained ankle suffered in tonight's loss to the Hawks. Wow.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21868781/video-lakers-kobe-bryant-injures-his-ankle-x-rays-negative (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21868781/video-lakers-kobe-bryant-injures-his-ankle-x-rays-negative)
He'll only be gone for 1 game MAX. Not that big of a deal.
If he misses any significant time the Lakers playoff chances are gone.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 13, 2013, 11:19:58 PM
If he misses any significant time the Lakers playoff chances are gone.
You also thought the Lakers playoffs chances were gone after they started poorly.
They have a good enough team to make the playoffs, even without Kobe... but Kobe won't be missing much, if any time at all.
The x-ray results will reveal a lot. Going to be a story to follow especially considering how late in the season it is as well as having an effect on the Lakers if they make the playoffs.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 13, 2013, 11:31:10 PM
The x-ray results will reveal a lot. Going to be a story to follow especially considering how late in the season it is as well as having an effect on the Lakers if they make the playoffs.
X-Ray was negative.
There's more to this. Kobe called out Dahntay Jones on Twitter.
http://www.sbnation.com/2013/3/13/4102142/kobe-bryant-calls-dahntay-jones-defense-a-dangerous-play (http://www.sbnation.com/2013/3/13/4102142/kobe-bryant-calls-dahntay-jones-defense-a-dangerous-play)
He also had more to say after the game.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/3/13/4102150/kobe-bryant-injury-hawks-lakers-dahntay-jones/in/3866085 (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/3/13/4102150/kobe-bryant-injury-hawks-lakers-dahntay-jones/in/3866085)
Kobe's a machine. He could lose a leg and not skip a beat and that's coming from his #1 Hater
Typical Kobe...blame somebody for getting him hurt.
Been bad about this the past few weeks but here's an NBA Power Rankings update.
NBA.com rankings
http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/03/18/week20/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3b (http://www.nba.com/2013/news/powerrankings/03/18/week20/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt3b)
Hollinger rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings)
Stein rankings
http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings (http://espn.go.com/nba/powerrankings)
I just realized jacque vaughn is the coach of the magic
Quote from: JustinP on March 25, 2013, 07:30:07 PM
I just realized jacque vaughn is the coach of the magic
I actually remember watching him play at Kansas. If it's the same guy.
Marc Gasol out indefinitely with an abdominal tear.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9091505/marc-gasol-memphis-grizzlies-indefinitely-abdominal-tear (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9091505/marc-gasol-memphis-grizzlies-indefinitely-abdominal-tear)
Quote from: Jon on March 25, 2013, 07:34:26 PM
I actually remember watching him play at Kansas. If it's the same guy.
Yep, same guy.
The Heat streak continues.
My Heat continues to win. I remember back when we were just an average playoff team. I remember the Shaq/Haslem frontcourt with Wade being In the league's Top 5 playersm, when we won the finals in 06'. Now Haslem sucks, and Wade's just gotten a bit worse than he was. LeBron James is, by far, the best player in the league, and has been for a while.
Wall scores 47 in Warriors win.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278768 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278768)
Dwight Howard vows payback on David Lee
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9099510/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-vows-payback-play-golden-state-warriors-david-lee (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9099510/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-vows-payback-play-golden-state-warriors-david-lee)
Big rumor going on that Derrick Rose is returning tomorrow night. Not confirmed but there is a lot of chatter about it being a possibility right now.
Metta World Peace has torn meniscus, will need surgery and is out six weeks.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9104960/metta-world-peace-surgery-torn-meniscus (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9104960/metta-world-peace-surgery-torn-meniscus)
Oh Yes Jimmy Buckets Butler posterized Chris Bosh last night in the Chicago bulls ending the streak of Miami Heat.
The Streak is over. Probably the biggest story in the NBA this season.
yeah and there is only three teams in the eastern conference with winning records that have beat the heat this season before the streak and now.
Chicago Bulls
Indiana Pacers
New York Knicks
now for the bulls that says something because they did it with out Derek Rose, this is the second time this season the bulls have beat the heat with out rose.
Interesting. Mark Cuban says he would consider drafting Brittney Griner to the Mavs.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9127664/mark-cuban-give-brittney-griner-opportunity-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9127664/mark-cuban-give-brittney-griner-opportunity-dallas-mavericks)
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 03, 2013, 10:18:22 AM
Interesting. Mark Cuban says he would consider drafting Brittney Griner to the Mavs.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9127664/mark-cuban-give-brittney-griner-opportunity-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9127664/mark-cuban-give-brittney-griner-opportunity-dallas-mavericks)
Just something to fill the news cycle with. Not happening and more importantly she couldn't play. She's a post player who weight 175 lbs ... as much as Steve Nash.
Been waiting since I was a kid to see the Clippers in 50 games in a season. It finally happened tonight.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278841 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278841)
NBA hears pitches for the Kings.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9131247/groups-representing-sacramento-seattle-vie-nba-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9131247/groups-representing-sacramento-seattle-vie-nba-kings)
Danilo Gallinari injures knee.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9136141/danilo-gallinari-denver-nuggets-mri-injuring-knee (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9136141/danilo-gallinari-denver-nuggets-mri-injuring-knee)
Update: Danilo Gallinari out for the rest of the season with torn ACL.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9138831/danilo-gallinari-denver-nuggets-season-torn-acl (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9138831/danilo-gallinari-denver-nuggets-season-torn-acl)
Melo is in beast mode.
Clippers both win their first Pacific Division title and sweep the Lakers for the first time all in one game.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278866 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278866)
And Melo dominates once again. And takes over the scoring lead while doing so.
Knicks win first division title since '94.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278876 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278876)
Kobe injured, likely out for rest of the season with Achilles injury.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9166874/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-probably-tore-achilles-team-says (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9166874/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-probably-tore-achilles-team-says)
Kobe out 6-9 months because of Achilles surgery.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9167718/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-6-9-months-achilles-surgery (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9167718/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-6-9-months-achilles-surgery)
Stephen Curry on the verge of breaking the three point record.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9181374/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-verge-3-point-record (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9181374/stephen-curry-golden-state-warriors-verge-3-point-record)
Lakers get the West's seventh seed.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278948 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400278948)
Melo is the scoring champ!!
JR Smith wins Sixth Man of the Year.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9199154/jr-smith-new-york-knicks-wins-sixth-man-award-source-says (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9199154/jr-smith-new-york-knicks-wins-sixth-man-award-source-says)
Bobcats fire coach Mike Dunlap after one season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9203383/charlotte-bobcats-fire-coach-mike-dunlap-one-season (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9203383/charlotte-bobcats-fire-coach-mike-dunlap-one-season)
Paul George wins Most Improved Player Award.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9202727/paul-george-indiana-pacers-nba-most-improved-player (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9202727/paul-george-indiana-pacers-nba-most-improved-player)
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 23, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
Bobcats fire coach Mike Dunlap after one season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9203383/charlotte-bobcats-fire-coach-mike-dunlap-one-season (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9203383/charlotte-bobcats-fire-coach-mike-dunlap-one-season)
Paul George wins Most Improved Player Award.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9202727/paul-george-indiana-pacers-nba-most-improved-player (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9202727/paul-george-indiana-pacers-nba-most-improved-player)
Living in Charlotte, I try to root for the home team, but MJ and all other sports team get on my nerves. He was the coach for one year. The team is an absolute atrocity. At the end of the day you are paying these people millions to play basketball and they aren't getting the job done.
Marc Gasol wins Defensive Player of the Year Award.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9207559/marc-gasol-memphis-grizzlies-wins-defensive-player-year-honors (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9207559/marc-gasol-memphis-grizzlies-wins-defensive-player-year-honors)
This MAJORLY changes things out West. Russell Westbrook out indefinitely because of knee surgery. HUGE blow to the Thunder's chances in the playoffs.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9214995/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9214995/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery)
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 26, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
This MAJORLY changes things out West. Russell Westbrook out indefinitely because of knee surgery. HUGE blow to the Thunder's chances in the playoffs.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9214995/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9214995/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery)
I'm salivating the Clippers could get out of the west now
Quote from: PapaPancho on April 26, 2013, 03:08:04 PM
I'm salivating the Clippers could get out of the west now
That makes two of us. Been waiting since I was a kid for the Clippers to have a shot at a title.
I know very very little about pro basketball when it doesn't include the prefix 'Fantasy', but I obviously have a very LGBT-attuned outlook, and as such...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/magazine/news/20130429/jason-collins-gay-nba-player/)
This is awesome. :D
Damian Lillard has won the NBA Rookie of the Year award.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/damian-lillard-nba-rookie-235027042.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/damian-lillard-nba-rookie-235027042.html)
Mike Woodson upset about Knicks wearing funeral black before last nights game.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9235666/2013-nba-playoffs-mike-woodson-upset-new-york-knicks-wore-all-black-mimic-funeral-boston-celtics (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9235666/2013-nba-playoffs-mike-woodson-upset-new-york-knicks-wore-all-black-mimic-funeral-boston-celtics)
Nuggets broadcaster calls Mark Jackson "classless."
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9235252/2013-nba-playoffs-denver-nuggets-broadcaster-scott-hastings-calls-mark-jackson-classless (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9235252/2013-nba-playoffs-denver-nuggets-broadcaster-scott-hastings-calls-mark-jackson-classless)
Royce White taunts Durant, Thunder on Twitter.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9235586/2013-nba-playoffs-royce-white-taunts-kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9235586/2013-nba-playoffs-royce-white-taunts-kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder)
Phil Jackson brought in to advise Pistons during coaching search.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9237654/phil-jackson-help-detroit-pistons-find-next-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9237654/phil-jackson-help-detroit-pistons-find-next-head-coach)
Lebron James wins MVP Award almost unanimously.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9244504/lebron-james-miami-heat-1-vote-shy-unanimous-mvp-honor (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9244504/lebron-james-miami-heat-1-vote-shy-unanimous-mvp-honor)
George Karl named NBA Coach of the Year.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9254113/george-karl-denver-nuggets-named-nba-coach-year (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9254113/george-karl-denver-nuggets-named-nba-coach-year)
It's a shame this is only his first one. He's a hell of a coach and should have been given the award on a couple of other occasions.
Memphis Grizzlies make first ever Western Conference Finals.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400464456 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400464456)
Miami Heat eliminate the Bulls.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400464464 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400464464)
NBA Owners keep Kings in Sacramento.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9279593/nba-owners-back-recommendation-keep-kings-sacramento (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9279593/nba-owners-back-recommendation-keep-kings-sacramento)
The Charlotte Bobcats are going to become the Charlotte Hornets again.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9288852/charlotte-bobcats-become-hornets-again (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9288852/charlotte-bobcats-become-hornets-again)
NBA Draft Lottery is tonight.
http://www.nba.com/draft/?ls=iref:nbahpt3a (http://www.nba.com/draft/?ls=iref:nbahpt3a)
I am hearing that the lottery is pretty poor this year. Defaulting to American opinion on this.
Quote from: Trumpers on May 21, 2013, 07:08:21 PM
I am hearing that the lottery is pretty poor this year. Defaulting to American opinion on this.
Considering the likely number one pick may not even play this season...I'd say it's pretty dull.
Nerlens Noel will probably go number one to any team save Charlotte. Michael Jordan will go about screwing-up like he usually does and draft Trey Burke.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on May 21, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
Considering the likely number one pick may not even play this season...I'd say it's pretty dull.
Nerlens Noel will probably go number one to any team save Charlotte. Michael Jordan will go about screwing-up like he usually does and draft Trey Burke.
Michael Jordan is the GM Franchise of the NBA.
Cleveland Cavaliers get the first pick in the draft.
Any surprises in how the lottery went down?
Tony Parker getting MRI on calf.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9301913/tony-parker-san-antonio-spurs-getting-mri-ailing-left-calf (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9301913/tony-parker-san-antonio-spurs-getting-mri-ailing-left-calf)
Cavs get first pick.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2013/story/_/id/9299841/2013-nba-draft-cleveland-cavaliers-win-nba-draft-lottery-orlando-magic-get-2nd-pick (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2013/story/_/id/9299841/2013-nba-draft-cleveland-cavaliers-win-nba-draft-lottery-orlando-magic-get-2nd-pick)
Quote from: Mike Powers on May 21, 2013, 11:16:07 PM
Any surprises in how the lottery went down?
Yep. The Cavs getting number one and the Wizards getting number three were big jumps for them beating the odds. Those were the biggest surprises although Phoenix did jump up a few spots to fifth.
Lebron was scary good tonight
Quote from: Cory on May 23, 2013, 12:14:16 AM
Lebron was scary good tonight
More like Indiana was scary dumb. Why do you take Hibbert out TWICE? Allowing LBJ to easily drive the lane for easy lay ups. Pacers deserved to lose.
Seems a lot of chatter about this clearing the road for Lebron to return to Cleveland. Is it the most ridiculous story ever or not?
Quote from: Trumpers on May 23, 2013, 09:28:22 AM
Seems a lot of chatter about this clearing the road for Lebron to return to Cleveland. Is it the most ridiculous story ever or not?
It does seem like a longshot but the roster has the potential to be very good in 2014-15. Irving, Waters, Thompson and potentially Noel with some good role players is a solid nucleus. Add in LeBron, who will likely have 2-3 more years at his current level and they could be serious contenders.
The biggest road block IMO is going to be Mike Brown, the Cavs head coach.
I dont get why either party would want to entertain his return...
Quote from: Jon on May 23, 2013, 07:51:43 AM
More like Indiana was scary dumb. Why do you take Hibbert out TWICE? Allowing LBJ to easily drive the lane for easy lay ups. Pacers deserved to lose.
Agreed.
Quote from: Jon on May 23, 2013, 07:51:43 AM
More like Indiana was scary dumb. Why do you take Hibbert out TWICE? Allowing LBJ to easily drive the lane for easy lay ups. Pacers deserved to lose.
He assumed a jump shot would be the play .... he chose .... unwisely
Quote from: PapaPancho on May 23, 2013, 02:42:19 PM
He assumed a jump shot would be the play .... he chose .... unwisely
Gotta let the jump shot beat you over the easy lay-in.
Lebron will not go back to Cleveland. He will stay in Miami. The Heat will eventually unload Bosh to give LeBron a max contract. Wade, with his knees, will take less and make room to bring in another big man and keep a solid supporting cast around them for the next 4 years or so.
Jeff Hornacek hired as the new Suns head coach.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9312978/jeff-hornacek-agrees-become-phoenix-suns-head-coach-according-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9312978/jeff-hornacek-agrees-become-phoenix-suns-head-coach-according-sources)
I'd like to see the Spurs win it this season to be quite frank with everyone. Tim Duncan has been a great player for the NBA over his time and lets be honest nobody outside Heat fans want to see the Heat win...
Quote from: Trumpers on May 28, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
I'd like to see the Spurs win it this season to be quite frank with everyone. Tim Duncan has been a great player for the NBA over his time and lets be honest nobody outside Heat fans want to see the Heat win...
Couldn't agree more. I am hoping to get a ticket to one of game in San Antonio... I don't want to miss this opportunity.
Plus I also want the Spurs to win so I can go to the championship parade!
I'd like either the Spurs or Pacers to win since Indiana has never won the championship before.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 28, 2013, 11:53:23 AM
I'd like either the Spurs or Pacers to win since Indiana has never won the championship before.
Fuck the Pacers...they had the Hooisers...make do with that Market Nerd Arena.
Chris Paul upset with Clippers organization.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9327713/chris-paul-upset-los-angeles-clippers-factor-impending-free-agency (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9327713/chris-paul-upset-los-angeles-clippers-factor-impending-free-agency)
Heat are going to win it all. LeBron will finish off the Pacers and Wade will dominate the Spurs. Watch. Heat win the finals in 5. Wade will be the Finals MVP. I put $20 on that.
Quote from: JustinP on May 31, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
Heat are going to win it all. LeBron will finish off the Pacers and Wade will dominate the Spurs. Watch. Heat win the finals in 5. Wade will be the Finals MVP. I put $20 on that.
I'd take that action if I was a betting man. I'm not, but Wade isn't the Wade of old.
How about that Birdman doing his best Cena shoulder block? Should have been a Flagarant 2 and should have been kicked from the game, but NBA just suspended him
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9330445/2013-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-chris-andersen-suspended-game-6 (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9330445/2013-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-chris-andersen-suspended-game-6)
What did you think of that whole thing. A double tech when Psycho T did nothing?
The Birdman, proving he is still a criminal at the worst possible time.
Mookie Blaylock in critical condition after auto accident.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9330727/mookie-blaylock-stable-condition-car-crash (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9330727/mookie-blaylock-stable-condition-car-crash)
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 01, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
Mookie Blaylock in critical condition after auto accident.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9330727/mookie-blaylock-stable-condition-car-crash (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9330727/mookie-blaylock-stable-condition-car-crash)
I hate to hear that. Sounds like he had a seizure and ran his car in oncoming traffic.
Best name in NBA history.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on June 01, 2013, 12:25:48 PM
Best name in NBA history.
Mugsy Bogues would have something to say about that.
Quote from: JustinP on June 01, 2013, 01:07:24 PM
Mugsy Bogues would have something to say about that.
World B. Free
Metta World Peace.
Game 7 coming up, who ya got? Pacers or the NBA?
Jason Collins says he's homosexual. The media adores him and Obama calls him.
Roy Hibbert says he's not homosexual. The media is outraged and Stern fines him.
Quote from: Cory on June 02, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
Jason Collins says he's homosexual. The media adores him and Obama calls him.
Roy Hibbert says he's not homosexual. The media is outraged and Stern fines him.
+1
Jason Kidd retiring after 19 seasons.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9337625/jason-kidd-new-york-knicks-retiring-19-nba-seasons (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9337625/jason-kidd-new-york-knicks-retiring-19-nba-seasons)
Pacers vs. Heat game 7 right now. Who do you think is going to win it?
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 03, 2013, 08:03:58 PM
Pacers vs. Heat game 7 right now. Who do you think is going to win it?
Like I said on the CWC boards yesterday, Heat by at least 20.
http://wearecwc.com/boards/index.php/topic,4309.msg52665/boardseen.html#new (http://wearecwc.com/boards/index.php/topic,4309.msg52665/boardseen.html#new)
lol, Pacers look like shit.
Better question ... Heat Spurs ... WHO YA GOT!
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 03, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Better question ... Heat Spurs ... WHO YA GOT!
I'll be going for the Spurs...
But I think the Heat win in 5.
Cant respect a team that dives worse than the Spanish national soccer team.
Spurs.
I'd rather the Spurs win.
The Pacers are falling apart. This might be the worst game 7 performance ever or close to it.
Quote from: JustinP on May 31, 2013, 02:03:56 PM
Heat are going to win it all. LeBron will finish off the Pacers and Wade will dominate the Spurs. Watch. Heat win the finals in 5. Wade will be the Finals MVP. I put $20 on that.
Still willing to make this bet.
Quote from: JustinP on June 03, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
Like I said on the CWC boards yesterday, Heat by at least 20.
http://wearecwc.com/boards/index.php/topic,4309.msg52665/boardseen.html#new (http://wearecwc.com/boards/index.php/topic,4309.msg52665/boardseen.html#new)
I can indeed confirm Justin hitting the nail on the head yesterday
NBA Finals is going to be interesting, that's for sure.
Quote from: JustinP on June 03, 2013, 11:11:34 PM
Still willing to make this bet.
I will take that bet... No way even if they finish off the Spurs in 5 that Wade is the MVP over James... The NBA will not allow it...
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 03, 2013, 11:38:21 PM
NBA Finals is going to be interesting, that's for sure.
Why is that?
Quote from: Midas on June 03, 2013, 11:42:46 PM
I will take that bet... No way even if they finish off the Spurs in 5 that Wade is the MVP over James... The NBA will not allow it...
**Hand shake**
Quote from: JustinP on June 03, 2013, 11:50:05 PM
**Hand shake**
Am I suppose to say **Handshake** also to confirm the deal?
If so then yes deal confirmed...
I will give you my Paypal info when I win lol
Quote from: Jon on June 03, 2013, 11:48:56 PM
Why is that?
Duncan, Ginobili, and Duncan vs. Lebron, Wade, and Bosh.
Quote from: Midas on June 03, 2013, 11:52:01 PM
I will give you my Paypal info when I win lol
Likewise.
lol, Floyd Mayweather covered the spread and had 6 mill on Heat.
Damn, rich get richer.
Quote from: Cory on June 04, 2013, 12:23:16 AM
lol, Floyd Mayweather covered the spread and had 6 mill on Heat.
Damn, rich get richer.
He's called Money for a reason.
George Karl out as Nuggets coach. Clippers and Memphis interested in him.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9348513/denver-nuggets-part-ways-coach-george-karl (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9348513/denver-nuggets-part-ways-coach-george-karl)
NBA Finals time. I'm picking the Heat in 7.
unreal shot by Parker to win.
This is amusing. Dennis Rodman says Lebron would be average if he played in the '90's.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s)
Quote"It's really not a comparison. If LeBron was playing in the late '80s and early '90s he would be just an average player," Rodman said Friday on "The Dan Patrick Show." "To do what Michael has done ... what he did was more charisma, there was more articulating and stuff like that. LeBron is more like ... there's no flash to his game. He's a great player, don't get me wrong, he's a hell of player, I'll give him that. But to me Scottie (Pippen) and Michael are probably the two best 1-2 punches I've ever seen."
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 07, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
This is amusing. Dennis Rodman says Lebron would be average if he played in the '90's.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s)
Lol, no.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 07, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
This is amusing. Dennis Rodman says Lebron would be average if he played in the '90's.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/9353089/dennis-rodman-says-lebron-james-average-played-90s)
As good as Lebron is, I actually agree with this. NBA during the 90s and the NBA now are two different games entirely. It has been proven that when challenged physically, Lebron is off his game and he has a hard time adapting. The NBA in the 90s was crazy physical and the refs allowed the game to be played physical. I think Lebron would steer away from playing the post and driving to the basket so much because he would get banged around. This would cause him to settle for jumpers, which isn't a strong part of his game. The NBA these days is for wimps and the refs call EVERYTHING a foul.
Quote from: JustinP on June 07, 2013, 10:42:39 PM
As good as Lebron is, I actually agree with this. NBA during the 90s and the NBA now are two different games entirely. It has been proven that when challenged physically, Lebron is off his game and he has a hard time adapting. The NBA in the 90s was crazy physical and the refs allowed the game to be played physical. I think Lebron would steer away from playing the post and driving to the basket so much because he would get banged around. This would cause him to settle for jumpers, which isn't a strong part of his game. The NBA these days is for wimps and the refs call EVERYTHING a foul.
I see where you are coming from... but even on a bad day for LeBron...
He's still averaging 20, 5, and 5. And that is actually really low balling it.
Sorry, but LeBron is not "average" in any era you stick him in.
As much as I hate the guy... he's a phenomenal basketball player.
Quote from: Jon on June 07, 2013, 10:45:53 PM
I see where you are coming from... but even on a bad day for LeBron...
He's still averaging 20, 5, and 5. And that is actually really low balling it.
Sorry, but LeBron is not "average" in any era you stick him in.
As much as I hate the guy... he's a phenomenal basketball player.
Oh and let's be real....defense....real defense...was actually played in the 90s.
Quote from: JustinP on June 07, 2013, 10:50:38 PM
Oh and let's be real....defense....real defense...was actually played in the 90s.
I agree with this.
Sure, defense was focused on a lot more in the 90s. But the rules were not enforced as much as they are now. You touch someone the wrong way and the refs blow the whistle. That is no fault of LeBron James... who plays excellent defense I might add.
Players today are bigger, faster, and stronger then in the 90s.
The game has changed.
But if LeBron entered the NBA in the 90s and played with people like Jordan, Ewing, The Dream, Barkley, Payton, Malone... etc... I still think he'd rise above 'average'. He is way too athletic and talented to be just 'average' in any era.
Bucks look to extend Monta Ellis' contract.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9355094/milwaukee-bucks-make-monta-ellis-3-year-36-million-offer-report-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9355094/milwaukee-bucks-make-monta-ellis-3-year-36-million-offer-report-says)
Kevin Durant to join Jay-Z's sports agency.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9354554/source-kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder-intends-sign-jay-z (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9354554/source-kevin-durant-oklahoma-city-thunder-intends-sign-jay-z)
Mark Cuban funds flopping study.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9352705/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-funds-flopping-study (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/9352705/dallas-mavericks-owner-mark-cuban-funds-flopping-study)
Lebron on cover of 2k14 NBA game.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9350487/2013-nba-finals-lebron-james-cover-nba-2k14-video-game (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9350487/2013-nba-finals-lebron-james-cover-nba-2k14-video-game)
Jason Kidd pursuing Nets coaching job.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9358941/jason-kidd-pursuing-brooklyn-nets-head-coaching-job-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9358941/jason-kidd-pursuing-brooklyn-nets-head-coaching-job-sources-say)
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 09, 2013, 07:48:30 PM
Jason Kidd pursuing Nets coaching job.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9358941/jason-kidd-pursuing-brooklyn-nets-head-coaching-job-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9358941/jason-kidd-pursuing-brooklyn-nets-head-coaching-job-sources-say)
Please hire him. Billy King, for all the mistakes you made as Sixers GM, it's time you make up for it. Hire Kidd and let Shaw come to Philly. I will forgive you for Webber.
That block by Lebron.
...too bad he started to play well when they were up by 20
Quote from: JustinP on June 07, 2013, 10:50:38 PM
Oh and let's be real....defense....real defense...was actually played in the 90s.
You're kidding right? Zone was illegal back then. If you mean defensive players were allowed to foul you more often and get away with it back then then your point is valid. With the athleticism and speed players have now and the way the game has changed defenses are better now.
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 09, 2013, 11:41:34 PM
You're kidding right? Zone was illegal back then. If you mean defensive players were allowed to foul you more often and get away with it back then then your point is valid. With the athleticism and speed players have now and the way the game has changed defenses are better now.
What?!?! There is no defense played in the NBA these days. There are about five guys who ACTUALLY play defense in the NBA. There is no on-ball pressure, there is no denying the passing lanes. Seriously, when it comes to defense in this era compared to the 90s, you might as well be talking about an 5 year old kids league.
THe Lebron Block
LeBron Reverses The Poster On Splitter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VukvmGBeG4c#ws)
The Parker Shot
Tony Parker's AMAZING Game 1 buzzer-beater from all angles! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRFiKbI5CXc#ws)
been a great series so far.
Kenny Smith in talks about Kings GM job.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9360676/kenny-smith-discusses-gm-role-sacramento-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9360676/kenny-smith-discusses-gm-role-sacramento-kings)
Heat another big game. Win by 13.
Quote from: JustinP on June 11, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
Heat another big game. Win by 13.
Dwayne Wade better start playing like a MVP if you wanna win the bet Justin.
Spurs by 6
I'm thinking Spurs by 3. Heat will miss a tying three with under 5 seconds left to seal the deal.
Quote from: Jon on June 11, 2013, 04:31:06 PM
Dwayne Wade better start playing like a MVP if you wanna win the bet Justin.
He will drop 41 points, 8 boards, and 4 assists.....oh, nevermind I think that's called wishful thinking.
Wade will get around 14-16 points maybe.
If you had asked me what was more likely, Wade winning Finals MVP or Danny Green outplaying Wade, I would have gone the former, but wow.
Glad I missed that massacre.
Jason Kidd hired as Nets head coach.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9378352/brooklyn-nets-hire-jason-kidd-sources (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9378352/brooklyn-nets-hire-jason-kidd-sources)
Mike Miller might be starting in Game 4 for Miami.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9380625/2013-nba-finals-miami-heat-consider-moving-mike-miller-starting-lineup-game-4-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9380625/2013-nba-finals-miami-heat-consider-moving-mike-miller-starting-lineup-game-4-sources-say)
QuoteSAN ANTONIO -- Looking to jump-start a sluggish offense, Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra is considering changing his starting lineup for Game 4 of the NBA Finals and inserting the hot-shooting Mike Miller, sources said Thursday.
Miller is 10-of-11 shooting on 3-pointers in the Finals thus far and is shooting 50 percent from behind the arc in the postseason. He started 17 games in the regular season, mostly as a fill-in for Dwyane Wade when he was battling injuries, and the Heat were 13-4 in those games.
Miller started Game 4 of the Heat's series against the Milwaukee Bucks, a game the Heat won by 11 points.
If Spoelstra decides to make the change with Miami trailing the San Antonio Spurs 2-1 in the best-of-seven Finals, Miller likely would replace Udonis Haslem in the starting lineup to give the Heat more shooters in an attempt to spread the floor. The Spurs have been successful in packing the paint over the series' first three games and it has cramped the driving space for LeBron James and Wade.
That lineup started together twice in the regular season and averaged 107 points in wins over the Chicago Bulls and Boston Celtics. It has played 22 minutes together in the playoffs, outscoring the opposition by nine points in that time.
In that configuration, James could end up starting the game as the Heat's defensive center and spend extended time guarding Tim Duncan. Haslem has been good defensively on Duncan in the series but has struggled offensively.
No matter how the Heat start out, one of their priorities going into Game 4 is expected to be deploying more shooting lineups. That could mean reduced playing time for backup point guard Norris Cole and more for Shane Battier, who recently has been out of the rotation.
ESPN.com's Tom Haberstroh contributed to this report.
I'm happy about Kidd to the Nets because it's one less team that could beat out Philly for Shaw (I know long shot, but it's not as long as it was Monday)
I see Karl going to the Clips for sure. I think Grizzlies hire a sabermetric kinda coach with the new front office, but Denver is the wildcard. If Phil Jackson is the GM, it all but assures that Shaw will be the HC, if not, theres a small chance of Shaw. Hollins won't come to Philly with Hinke, a saber guy so it'll be either Shaw or the assistant in Houston. Fingers crossed
Clippers/Celtics trade talks end
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9399106/los-angeles-clippers-walk-away-boston-celtics-deal-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9399106/los-angeles-clippers-walk-away-boston-celtics-deal-sources)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Clippers informed the Boston Celtics on Tuesday morning they are pulling out of talks to acquire Kevin Garnett and Doc Rivers, sources told ESPN.com.
The teams have no plans to speak again, the sources said, and the Clippers are preparing to move on and hire a coach this week.
Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge, meanwhile, confirmed to The Boston Globe that talks between the teams had ended.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 13, 2013, 11:19:04 PM
I'm happy about Kidd to the Nets because it's one less team that could beat out Philly for Shaw (I know long shot, but it's not as long as it was Monday)
I see Karl going to the Clips for sure. I think Grizzlies hire a sabermetric kinda coach with the new front office, but Denver is the wildcard. If Phil Jackson is the GM, it all but assures that Shaw will be the HC, if not, theres a small chance of Shaw. Hollins won't come to Philly with Hinke, a saber guy so it'll be either Shaw or the assistant in Houston. Fingers crossed
Unfortunately the Clips will hire Byron Scott because he will be the cheapest option.
I hope someone hires Jeff Van Gundy
crazy game, ray allen was huge....Lebron not so much in the later parts.
Game 7 Thursday. Should be good.
Heat will win. Don't think it will be very much drama in the win either.
Quote from: Cory on June 19, 2013, 12:23:12 AM
crazy game, ray allen was huge....Lebron not so much in the later parts.
Without Lebron going into god mode they wouldnt have even been there. Two late turnovers dont erase an 18 pt 4th quarter and a triple double. Not to mention his awesome defense on parker and massive block on duncan
Game 7 goes to OT. Spurs win after Lebron trips over his fallen headband and loses the ball out of bounds.
Heat win.
94-89
Going to go with the Spurs 100-98 in OT
Heat win by double digits
I'll say Heat win comfortably... 97-85.
Best game 7 of all time. That was amazing to watch.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 21, 2013, 02:50:41 AM
Best game 7 of all time. That was amazing to watch.
LOL... Ummm... No.
You need to watch the entire '88 Finals series.
Seems like its a top 5 in most peoples list, and im glad my first NBA finals were one of the best of all time.
Quote from: Cory on June 21, 2013, 03:44:26 PM
Seems like its a top 5 in most peoples list, and im glad my first NBA finals were one of the best of all time.
I would agree its in the Top 5 for Game 7's but its not THE best.
what about in terms of a finals series, would it still be one of the greats?
Quote from: Cory on June 21, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
what about in terms of a finals series, would it still be one of the greats?
Yes.
NBA is about as legit as the WWE is.
Quote from: Cory on June 21, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
what about in terms of a finals series, would it still be one of the greats?
There was three good games out of seven. It wouldn't be in my Top 5.
Clippers agree to Doc Rivers deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources)
LeBron James the day after his championship
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=538852682848119 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=538852682848119)
NBA to play games in London and Mexico City.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9420575/nba-play-games-london-mexico-city (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/9420575/nba-play-games-london-mexico-city)
Nuggets hire Brian Shaw as head coach.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9419087/denver-nuggets-agree-hire-brian-shaw-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9419087/denver-nuggets-agree-hire-brian-shaw-head-coach)
I hope the Bobcats get to draft Anthony Bennett.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 23, 2013, 06:54:56 PM
Clippers agree to Doc Rivers deal.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9415256/los-angeles-clippers-agree-principle-doc-rivers-deal-sources)
Awesome, glad I decided to make Clippers my team.
Quote from: JustinP on June 25, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
I hope the Bobcats get to draft Anthony Bennett.
heard hes 15lbs overweight
Quote from: Cory on June 25, 2013, 04:09:34 PM
heard hes 15lbs overweight
I'd take him No. 1 overall instead of Noel.
Quote from: Cory on June 25, 2013, 04:09:22 PM
Awesome, glad I decided to make Clippers my team.
o.0
Go out and do your research young blood! Danny Manning, World B. Free, Eric Paitkowski.
Learn them, love them,
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 25, 2013, 10:39:10 PM
o.0
Go out and do your research young blood! Danny Manning, World B. Free, Eric Paitkowski.
Learn them, love them,
Don't forget about Ron Harper, Mark Jackson, and Pooh Richardson.
Well I only got into basketball when I was away in Cuba and the ONLY thing on TV was March Madness.
Never cared for it outside FBL, but then again never really gave it a shot. I really enjoyed Florida Gulf Coast in this years tournament, and their essentially were the Clippers of March Madness last season so it was an easy choice.....considering the Raptors blow.
Nets/Celtics working on blockbuster trade.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9429958/sources-brooklyn-nets-seek-trade-boston-celtics-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9429958/sources-brooklyn-nets-seek-trade-boston-celtics-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce)
QuoteFast-moving trade talks between the Brooklyn Nets and the Boston Celtics that would land Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett in Brooklyn have reached the point that the teams were trying to reach verbal agreement on the framework of a deal by the end of Thursday night, according to sources familiar with the talks.
The last step to the teams signing off on the trade, sources said, is convincing Garnett to waive his no-trade clause, with talks to that end between Garnett and Celtics officials commencing Thursday night.
"It's in the hands of KG and Boston management now," a source said.
No trade between the teams can officially be consummated until July 10 -- when a leaguewide moratorium on signings and trades is lifted after free agency begins July 1 -- but the teams are making fast progress toward finalizing the trade parameters.
"It's very serious and can happen very soon," one source close to the talks said.
According to a Yahoo! Sports report, Brooklyn has agreed to send three first-round picks (2014, '16 and '18) along with Kris Humphries' expiring contract, Gerald Wallace, Tornike Shengelia, Reggie Evans and a sign-and-traded Keith Bogans to the Celtics for Pierce, Garnett and Jason Terry. By agreeing to add Terry to the trade, sources said, Brooklyn alleviated some of Boston's concerns about absorbing the remaining three years and $30 million on Wallace's contract.
Pierce has a team option for $15.3 million that the Celtics would have to pick up by week's end for such a deal to have any shot in July. Because Pierce is making nearly $17 million this season, Brooklyn needs the deal to wait until after the start of free agency and the lifting of the moratorium on July 10, since the $15.3 million figure is used in the trade.
Yahoo! Sports reported the Nets' pursuit of Garnett and Pierce as a package. The New York Daily News reported earlier this week that the Nets were chasing Garnett. Sources told ESPN.com the Nets hatched the idea of trying to acquire both Boston stalwarts in the same deal because Pierce's inclusion is seen as the surest way to persuade Garnett to waive his no-trade clause.
The addition of Garnett and Pierce to the trio of Deron Williams, Joe Johnson and Brook Lopez would appear to give the Nets one of the most formidable rosters in the NBA under rookie coach Jason Kidd.
Earlier this offseason, Boston denied the Nets permission to contact then-head coach Doc Rivers, who eventually left to coach the Los Angeles Clippers.
But the Celtics, now that Rivers has departed, are a team in transition that is said to be looking to accelerate the rebuilding process by chasing draft picks and creating cap space.
Information from ESPNNewYork.com regular contributor Mike Mazzeo was used in this report.
Quote from: JustinP on June 25, 2013, 06:40:03 PM
I'd take him No. 1 overall instead of Noel.
I called it.
Quote from: JustinP on June 27, 2013, 08:05:48 PM
I called it.
I've seen the guy play multiple times last season since I go to UNLV and he's not a number one caliber guy from what I saw in those games.
anyways he put Canada on the map, huge things for BBall here. especially with Wiggins next year.
Garnett and Pierce to the Nets is a done deal. Blockbuster trade is finalized.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9429958/sources-boston-celtics-brooklyn-nets-agree-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9429958/sources-boston-celtics-brooklyn-nets-agree-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-deal)
Charlotte Bobcats draft party crowd reaction to the pick of Cody Zeller. lol
Bobcats Draft Party Crowd Reaction To Cody Zeller Pick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sqoxXAr7Y#ws)
Good news, Clippers fans. Chris Paul reportedly resigning with the Clippers.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9438022/chris-paul-remain-los-angeles-clippers-representatives-tell-teams-sources (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9438022/chris-paul-remain-los-angeles-clippers-representatives-tell-teams-sources)
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 30, 2013, 01:04:36 PM
Good news, Clippers fans. Chris Paul reportedly resigning with the Clippers.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9438022/chris-paul-remain-los-angeles-clippers-representatives-tell-teams-sources (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9438022/chris-paul-remain-los-angeles-clippers-representatives-tell-teams-sources)
No celebrations until the ink meets paper
Chris Paul agrees to 5 year, 107 million extension to stay with the Clippers.
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QuoteChris Paul has verbally agreed to a five-year, $107 million contract extension to remain with the Los Angeles Clippers, his agent, Leon Rose, confirmed to ESPNLosAngeles.com on Monday morning.
Paul can't sign his new contract until July 10 but could agree to terms as of 12:01 a.m. ET.
"I'm in. ClipperNation," Paul tweeted.
Doc Rivers becoming the Clippers' new head coach and senior vice president of basketball operations earlier this week assured that Paul would remain in Los Angeles, according to sources.
The chances of Paul leaving the Clippers were slim even before Rivers was named coach. But sources have said he had at least entertained the thought of going to the Atlanta Hawks with Dwight Howard, who also will enter free agency.
Paul will become the second high-profile player to sign a long-term extension with the Clippers in the past two seasons. Blake Griffin signed a five-year, $95 million extension last summer.
Tyreke Evans to the Pelicans
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QuoteNew Orleans Pelicans Get
Tyreke Evans, PG
Jeff Withey, C
Sacramento Kings Get
Greivis Vasquez, PG
Two second-round picks
Portland Trail Blazers Get
Robin Lopez, C*
Terrel Harris, SG
*- Blazers will pay $1,568,999 to cover Lopez's trade kicker
The New Orleans Pelicans, Sacramento Kings and Portland Trail Blazers have agreed to terms on a three-team deal that will cement Tyreke Evans' move to the Pelicans, according to sources with knowledge of the talks.
Three-Team Trade Details
The Pelicans, Kings and Blazers have agreed to a trade centered around Tyreke Evans. Here's what each team will receive, sources told ESPN.com:
The trade -- which can't be officially completed until July 10 -- will send Evans to the Pelicans via sign-and-trade, with Sacramento receiving guard Greivis Vasquez from the Pelicans and Portland acquiring New Orleans center Robin Lopez.
Sources say that Portland, to complete the trade, will send 2013 second-round pick Jeff Withey to New Orleans, two future second-round picks to Sacramento and also will acquire guard Terrel Harris from New Orleans along with Lopez. The Blazers also will be required to pay the $1,568,999 trade kicker triggered in Lopez's contract because he's being dealt.
The Pelicans could not acquire Evans or complete their draft-day trade for Philadelphia's Jrue Holiday without shedding salary, so they have been pursuing trades all week while putting the finishing touches on a four-year, $44 million offer sheet to Evans, a restricted free agent.
New Orleans had the option of waiving Lopez by Friday's deadline for a mere $500,000 to buy out the final two years of his Pelicans contract, but Portland has been after the big man for days.
Sacramento jumped into the mix to take Vasquez from the Pelicans after it became apparent the Kings were not going to strike a deal with Detroit Pistons free-agent guard Jose Calderon.
The Pelicans immediately identified Evans as their top priority in free agency and were sold on him even further, sources said, when Evans told team officials he'd be willing to come off the bench if necessary.
That sacrifice enables them to go into the season with a three-man backcourt rotation of Evans, Holiday and Eric Gordon and thus no need to rush into trading Gordon, whose future in New Orleans has been debated ever since last summer. That's when Gordon signed an offer sheet of his own with Phoenix and publicly urged the Pelicans to let him go to join the Suns.
Dwight Howard to the Rockets according to sources.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9453005/dwight-howard-join-houston-rockets-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9453005/dwight-howard-join-houston-rockets-sources-say)
Omer Asik doesn't want Howard, might want out of Houston.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9453164/omer-asik-houston-rockets-want-play-dwight-howard-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9453164/omer-asik-houston-rockets-want-play-dwight-howard-source-says)
Andre Igoudala to the Warriors according to sources.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9452879/golden-state-warriors-get-andre-iguodala-dwight-howard-chase-source-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9452879/golden-state-warriors-get-andre-iguodala-dwight-howard-chase-source-says)
Josh Smith is going to get overpaid in Detroit.
ON ANOTHER NOTE, MICHAEL JORDAN ACTUALLY SPENT SOME MONEY AND GOT A GOOD PLAYER FOR THE BOBCATS/HORNETS!!!!!!!!
The Charlotte Hornets are coming back.
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QuoteThe Charlotte Hornets are back.
The NBA Board of Governors unanimously approved changing the Charlotte Bobcats name back to the Hornets beginning for the 2014-15 season during its summer meeting Thursday in Las Vegas.
The Hornets brand became available when the New Orleans Pelicans officially gave it up earlier this year as part of their own name change. The Charlotte Hornets moved to New Orleans in 2002, and the Bobcats joined the league as an expansion team in '04. Commissioner David Stern said Bobcats owner Michael Jordan has been in discussions to get the Hornets name back since he bought the team in 2010.
"We're thrilled to bring back the Hornets to Charlotte and the Carolinas," Jordan said in a statement. "The passion and enthusiasm around this name change by fans in this market has been unmatched. They overwhelmingly told us what they wanted, we listened and we couldn't be happier with the Board of Governors' approval of the name change. With the young team we are developing on the court, the direction of our business and the return of the Hornets name, we are extremely excited about our future. The buzz is back!"
The Hornets led the NBA in attendance for seven consecutive seasons in Charlotte, but the Bobcats have not been as successful in the market, which spurred the movement to return to the name.
"It is so true that it was a subject of conversation for the last couple of years," Stern said. "Fans of the old Hornets would say, 'Please give us back our Hornet name.' I laughed at it initially. But it stayed there bubbling below the surface, and there's something to it."
The Bobcats' website hailed the return of "Buzz City," and team officials said 2,000 season-ticket holders turned out at a downtown party that turned into a celebration of the name change. Fan favorite Muggsy Bogues and other former Hornets including Rex Chapman, Kelly Tripucka, Dell Curry and Kendall Gill attended as well.
"We want to reach back and grab some of that equity that the Hornets earned in our community," Charlotte COO Fred Whitfield said. "They did a lot of great things off the court. They were involved in the community. They became very accessible to the Charlotte fans and citizens of Charlotte. We want to reach back and grab some heritage and use it as we move forward to build a brand with our young team that continues to improve."
The NBA owners handled several other pieces of business at the meeting, including:
• They voted to expand the use of instant replay to include reviews on block/charge calls in the restricted area, better known as the "no-charge zone." Officials now can stop the game to check whether a defender was in the restricted area on such a call.
"You always try to level the playing field and basically get it right," said Kiki Vandeweghe, the league's new vice president of basketball operations. "That's the main focus is getting calls right."
Stern said the move could add time to games, and the league was continuing to look at creating a centralized replay system in which offsite officials would judge replays to speed up the game. He said the league might add a fourth referee to the playoffs next season to act as replay official on the sideline.
• Officials also will be able to use instant replay to review whether a player had started his shooting motion on shooting fouls and whether a foul was committed before a ball was inbounded.
• Instant replay also can be used during any instant-replay situation to assess penalties for flagrant fouls observed during the review.
• It will no longer be considered a clear-path foul if the defender who commits the foul is ahead of the offensive player in the frontcourt at any point before the foul.
• The controversial flopping policy the league instituted last season will be left alone for the 2013-14 season. Stern hinted during the NBA Finals that flop warnings followed by $5,000 fines for second offenses were not enough of a deterrent. No player was given a fine for a third offense last season. The league's competition committee recommended no changes.
• It will now be a violation and an automatic turnover if an offensive player stands out of bounds and doesn't immediately return to the floor. This addresses a recent trend in the league of players standing out of bounds under the basket in an attempt to pull defenders out of position or hide from the defense. There will be no penalty for extenuating circumstances such as injuries or saving a loose ball.
• The league had hoped to have an agreement on human growth hormone testing before next season. Stern, however, said the process has been delayed because the players' association is without an executive director after Billy Hunter was forced out earlier this year. The owners haven't given up on getting a plan in place, but it seems highly unlikely it could be agreed on before next season.
• The board agreed to reimburse the Oklahoma City Thunder part of Kevin Durant's 2010 contract extension, according to The Oklahoman. Durant received approximately $15 million in additional salary due to a change in the collective bargaining agreement ratified in December 2011, but a league source told the newspaper the reimbursement is not for the full $15 million. The full extension will still count against the Thunder's salary cap and luxury tax, The Oklahoman reported. Durant's salary has helped limit the Thunder's financial flexibility.
The city of Charlotte is ecstatic about bringing back the Hornets name. The team had a party/celebration last night downtown, but unfortunately I was stuck at work.
Bynum signed with the Cavs today.
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on July 19, 2013, 03:26:53 PM
Bynum signed with the Cavs today.
Meh...he hasn't proved anything.
:sparta:
Quote from: JustinP on July 19, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
Meh...he hasn't proved anything.
Did I sound excited? lol
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on July 19, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
:sparta:
Did I sound excited? lol
Not really...but I just wanted to add fuel to the fire, lol.
If only he's half as good as he was for the Sixers....
Quote from: JustinP on July 19, 2013, 03:11:01 PM
The city of Charlotte is ecstatic about bringing back the Hornets name. The team had a party/celebration last night downtown, but unfortunately I was stuck at work.
I don't blame them for celebrating the demise of the Bobcats Era in Charlotte.
John Wall signs 5 year, $80 million extension
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QuoteThe Wizards have signed point guard John Wall to a five-year contract extension worth $80 million, the Washington Post reported.
According to the newspaper, the Wizards will formally announce the signing at a Thursday news conference. Wall's deal will begin at the start of the 2014-15 season, the paper said.
ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported last week that the Wall and the Wizards were close to the $80 million extension and that both sides were on course to have an agreement signed by Aug. 1.
Wall had been eligible to sign an extension until Oct. 31. He would have become a restricted free agent without a deal by that deadline on July 1, 2014.
Although Wall missed nearly half of the 2012-13 season after knee surgery, his strong recovery during Washington's final 49 games and solid connection with fellow young guard Bradley Beal has convinced Wizards management that the former Kentucky star is worthy of a franchise-player contract.
Wall averaged 18.5 points, 7.6 assists and 4.0 rebounds after his January return while shooting a career-best 44.1 percent from the field.
Pelicans unveil new uniforms
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QuoteMETAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Pelicans now have uniforms to go with a new team name, emblems and color scheme the NBA franchise released earlier this year.
Anthony Davis (left) and Jrue Holiday showcase the Pelicans' new uniforms.
The club, which competed as the Hornets last season, unveiled new uniforms Thursday on new practice courts built alongside the headquarters of the NFL's Saints in suburban New Orleans.
The home uniforms are white with gold and red trim, with "New Orleans" written in navy blue across the front, along with blue numbers.
The road uniforms are navy blue with the same trim, but with lettering and numbers in white.
The club's primary logo, with a basketball tucked under a soaring pelican's beak, appears on the sides of the shorts.
Forward Anthony Davis says he's eager to wear the uniform in games.
Greg Oden signs with the Heat.
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QuoteGreg Oden, the former No. 1 overall pick who hasn't played in an NBA game since 2009, will sign a contract to play for the Miami Heat, the center told Grantland.com.
The deal is for a minimum of two years with a player option in the second year, sources told ESPN's Marc Stein and Jeff Goodman.
Miami had been considered the favorite to land Oden. Heat president Pat Riley has been personally recruiting Oden since before the end of the 2012-13 regular season. And, of course, Miami is coming off winning an NBA title with a lineup that includes LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, among others.
Oden said it was a "big deciding factor" that Heat officials made it clear to him that he "wouldn't be needed as much early in the season" as he works his way back from more than three years out of the league.
"When I had a conversation with Coach (Erik) Spoelstra and hearing how much he knew about the training stuff that I was already doing, it kind of made me feel like they know what's best for me," Oden said in a phone interview.
"I'm not going to sit here and say I'm 100 percent," Oden added. "I am moving (well) and I am feeling good, but I have a lot of work to do."
He told ESPN.com that James recruited him via text message, in addition to Spoelstra.
Oden has worked out for several teams over the past few weeks. His final three teams were believed to be Miami, San Antonio and Dallas. Oden worked last week in Indianapolis and five teams watched him. They presented offers earlier this week that detailed not only financial specifics but also each club's medical plans for overseeing the 25-year-old Oden's ongoing recovery from a multitude of knee problems.
New Orleans, Sacramento and Atlanta were the other known suitors for Oden.
Oden hasn't played in an NBA game since Dec. 5, 2009, and underwent his third career microfracture surgery as recently as February 2012. He was selected No. 1 overall by Portland in 2007 but has played in just 82 career NBA games thanks to injury woes. In 21 games in the 2009-10 season, Oden averaged 11.1 points, 8.5 rebounds and 2.3 blocks per game before succumbing to injury again.
As for concerns that he's thrusting himself back into the spotlight instead of launching his comeback with more of an under-the-radar team, Oden said: "They are in the spotlight, what can I say? But for them to come after me with all the stuff I've been going through -- for them to think I can still be an important piece of their team -- I'm really excited about that. The scrutiny ... that's going to be there with any team I signed with. I just want to play."
Asked about his expectations for the coming season, Oden added: "I want to be able to finish the season healthy. (After) everything I've been through, I want to be able to say I played the game and I had no problems."
Information from ESPN.com's Marc Stein and Jeff Goodman was used in this report.
That is the best place for him.
I am really rooting for Oden to turn his career around. I mean...imagine being Sam Bowie when people talk about Jordan going 3. He already has the KD problem, it would be nice at 25 if he can get on the Heat and make a serious comeback to his career.
Quote from: Trumpers on August 03, 2013, 07:27:19 PM
I am really rooting for Oden to turn his career around. I mean...imagine being Sam Bowie when people talk about Jordan going 3. He already has the KD problem, it would be nice at 25 if he can get on the Heat and make a serious comeback to his career.
I wasn't big on him in college and never thought he should have been taken over Durant. However, the man's career has been derailed with injuries and I too hope he can bounce back and at least prove himself to be a worthy big man for the next seven years.
Oden's injuries area big risk. However that said Miami is an excellent place for him considering Mike Miller was in a similar situation when he got there.
Shabazz Muhammed sent home from rookie camp
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QuoteThis really shouldn't be this hard, kids. The NBA rookie transition program lasts a few days. You come in, you have some silly photos taken, you take classes about what you need to know about NBA life as the league tries to prepare you to not embarass it and keep your money. You sleep in a dorm like it's college, then you leave, and resume your summer of fun coming off your first NBA contract until September when training camp starts.
It's not difficult. And yet ...
From USA Today:
Minnesota Timberwolves rookie guard Shabazz Muhammad was sent home from the NBA's Rookie Transition Program for violating of a rule and bringing a female guest into his hotel room, a person familiar with situation told USA Today Sports.
The person requested anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly about the situation.
Muhammad, who also will be fined, was in Florham Park, N.J., for the four-day program which helps rookies transition into the league through a series of seminars, instructions and guest speakers.
via Shabazz Muhammad was sent home from NBA rookie program.
This follows the 2008 incident in which Heat rookie Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur, who both played at Kansas, were expelled for basically having a party in the dorm room. Michael Beasley later admitted to being in the room, too.
Muhammad entered the past college basketball season as the consensus No. 1 pick, but slid to the Timberwolves at No. 14 after a disappointing campaign. This won't help matters.
It's just bringing a guest. He had a friend he wanted to see. It shouldn't be a big deal.
But again, it's only for a few days, where you have to follow the NBA's rules. That's it, and then you can do whatever you want. But no.
Muhammad will make $1.8 million this season from the Timberwolves, before the inevitable fine.
Heat/Bulls, Lakers/Clippers to open NBA Season
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QuoteThe reigning champion Miami Heat will open up the NBA season at home against the Chicago Bulls in what figures to be Derrick Rose's first game since tearing his ACL during the 2012 playoffs, one of three games on Tuesday, Oct. 29 -- the first night of the 2013-14 NBA season.
The Staples Center hallway rivalry will also tip off on opening night as the fortified Los Angeles Clippers with new coach Doc Rivers will take on the Dwight Howard-less Los Angeles Lakers.
The Orlando Magic and Indiana Pacers will kick off the NBA opening night tripleheader.
After spurning the Lakers in the offseason, Howard will make his Houston Rockets debut when they play host to the Charlotte Bobcats on Oct. 30.
That same night, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce are scheduled to make their debuts as members of the Brooklyn Nets under first-year head coach Jason Kidd in a road test against Kyrie Irving, 2013 No. 1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and the rest of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Howard will face the Lakers for the first time on Nov. 7 when the Rockets host the Lakers, while the former Celtics will return to Boston for the first time on Jan. 26.
The NBA Christmas Day schedule again will include five games, starting with Chicago at Brooklyn (noon ET, ESPN). It continues with Oklahoma City at New York (2:30 p.m. ET, ABC), Miami at the Lakers (5 p.m. ET, ABC), Houston at San Antonio (8 p.m. ET, ESPN) and the Clippers at Golden State (10:30 p.m. ET, ESPN).
This will mark the first time since 2008 that the defending NBA champions will be on the road for both Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Heat reserve Shane Battier took to Twitter to voice his concern about leaving Miami for Christmas.
ESPN's regular-season TV schedule opens Nov. 1 with a doubleheader -- Miami at Brooklyn (8 p.m. ET), followed by San Antonio at the Lakers (10:30 p.m. ET).
Brandon Jennings looks to make Motor City 'Lob City'
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QuoteAUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- Brandon Jennings can hardly wait to take the court alongside Detroit's athletic big men.
"I guess you can say we can bring the 'Lob City' to Detroit this year," Jennings said.
That's quite a boast, considering the Pistons have missed the playoffs for four straight seasons, but if there was one thing Jennings tried to make clear Tuesday, it was that he will absolutely look to pass the ball a bit more than he did in Milwaukee. Detroit acquired Jennings from the Bucks last week, hoping the new point guard can be an important part of an extensive offseason overhaul.
The Pistons also signed forward Josh Smith and guard Chauncey Billups. They traded guard Brandon Knight in the deal for Jennings.
It was a flurry of moves that, at the very least, has people around Detroit talking about the Pistons again. How it will look on the court is anyone's guess -- and Jennings' job will be to help this group become a cohesive unit.
"This year I think you're going to see a whole different player, just with all the talent that I have around me, the veterans that are in the locker room," Jennings said. "Now I can just actually be myself and be who I was five years ago, when I was in high school, playing AAU basketball."
The 23-year-old Jennings seems well aware of some of the knocks against him. He shot 40 percent from the field last season, easily the worst mark in the NBA for any player who took over 1,200 shots. Of course, he also averaged a career-high 6.5 assists per game.
"I definitely have to change my game for this team, for my teammates, everybody to be successful," Jennings said. "The things that I was doing in Milwaukee, I won't have to do here -- take all those bad shots."
The Bucks made the playoffs last season with a 38-44 record. Detroit was nine games worse, and the Pistons made a coaching change this offseason, bringing in Maurice Cheeks to replace Lawrence Frank.
Talented big man Greg Monroe is still only 23, and 6-foot-11 Andre Drummond turns 20 on Saturday. That's what Jennings is talking about when he says the Pistons have a bright future and teammates he'll enjoy playing with.
Detroit added Smith, a 6-foot-9 forward who averaged 17.5 points for Atlanta last season. The question now is how well he'll mesh with the other frontcourt players -- and what Jennings and Billups can add to the backcourt. Drummond was at Tuesday's news conference, when Jennings was introduced.
"It's like I got drafted all over again," Drummond said. "I'm walking into a new situation, a new coaching staff, a new bunch of players."
It's certainly an exciting time for a franchise that has not had many of them lately. Detroit's rebuilding process has been slow. First, Tom Gores became the team's new owner in 2011 following a drawn-out sale. Over the next couple years, the Pistons parted ways with Richard Hamilton, Ben Gordon and Tayshaun Prince, giving themselves flexibility.
It felt for a while like this would be the offseason when Detroit's patience might finally turn into action -- when the Pistons would put some of their salary cap space to use and be aggressive in the trade market. That's exactly what's happened, and although it's hard to say where this lineup ranks in the Eastern Conference, nobody can accuse Detroit of standing pat.
Team President Joe Dumars doesn't anticipate any more major changes, so all that's left now is the waiting.
"I do feel like the roster that we have right now is a roster that can compete for the playoffs," Dumars said. "I don't foresee us doing any more big moves."
Thunder guard DeAndre Liggins arrested and jailed on Domestic Abuse Charges
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Quote(CNN) -- Oklahoma City Thunder guard DeAndre Liggins was in jail early Sunday morning on charges of domestic abuse.
Liggins, 25, was booked into the Oklahoma County jail Saturday night where he's being held on an $8,000 bond.
According to jail records, authorities charged Liggins with domestic abuse in the presence of a minor child -- a felony.
No additional details were immediately available. But police told CNN affiliate KOCO, that the victim is believed to be Liggins' girlfriend.
In a statement to NewsOK.com, the team said it was aware of the arrest.
"We are aware of the situation and take this matter seriously," the statement read. "We are in the process of gathering more information and have no further comment at this time."
Liggins was signed by the Thunder last year after playing his rookie season with the Orlando Magic. He has averaged 1.6 points and 7.2 minutes a game for his career, and has been used almost exclusively as a substitute.
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It's that time of year again. NBA is coming back soon and the rivalries are already starting. :D
Kevin Garnett tells Lebron James to concern himself with his own team
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Brooklyn Nets power forward Kevin Garnett thinks Miami Heat star LeBron James should concern himself with his own team.
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"Tell LeBron to worry about Miami. It has nothing to do with Celtic business," Garnett said in response to James, who previously expressed thoughts that KG and Nets small forward Paul Pierce should apologize for criticizing Heat sharpshooter Ray Allen for leaving the Boston Celtics before they departed for Brooklyn.
Garnett and Pierce were traded to the Nets along with reserve Jason Terry during the summer.
"I left Boston?" Pierce said when asked of James' comments, clearly noting he had been dealt by the Celtics and didn't leave as a free agent.
Garnett and Pierce were both critical of Allen after he elected to sign with the Heat last offseason. KG said he lost Allen's phone number, and Pierce said he hadn't forgiven him.!
"I think the first thing I thought was, 'Wow, Ray got killed for leaving Boston, and now these guys are leaving Boston,'" James said. "I think it's OK; I didn't mind it. But there were a couple guys who basically [expletive] on Ray for leaving, and now they're leaving.
"That's the nature of our business, man. I don't know what Boston was going through at the end of the day. I know Ray had to make the best decision for him and his family and his career. Doc [Rivers, former Celtics coach], KG and Paul did that as well. You can't criticize someone who does something that's best for their family."
James, of course, left the Cleveland Cavaliers to sign with the Heat in 2010. His "decision" remains infamous to this day.
"I can relate to that -- you think so? I'm the No. 1 relater," James said. "I've been through it all. I know all about it."
Information from ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst was used in this report.
Doc Rivers has Laker banners covered up during Clippers games.
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QuoteDoc Rivers will talk about how it's just professional pride for his team. He'll talk about it not being meant as a sign of disrespect. But it's hard not to see the decision which was first enacted on Friday night at Staples Center as having dual purposes: furthering a Clippers rivalry now hat he's the head coach, and sticking it to a team he's feuded with over the past six years.
On Friday night before the Clippers' preseason game vs. the Blazers, Rivers had the Lakers' banners covered up with Clippers posters. From SI.com:
"Well, I didn't look at it as the banner thing," Rivers maintained. "I just look at it as putting our guys up."
Rivers had the banners of Jamal Crawford, Blake Griffin, J.J. Redick, DeAndre Jordan, Jared Dudley, Chris Paul and Matt Barnes all put up on the wall.
The Kings' championship banner was still up on the opposite side of the arena.
Rivers was asked why he didn't put up his banners on the same side as the Kings' banner.
"Listen, I think this is our arena when we play," Rivers said. "So I just thought it would be good that we show our guys. No disrespect to them. But when we play, it's the Clippers' arena as far as I know."
Jordan has been with the Clippers for five seasons and he always wondered why the Lakers had their banners at the forefront.
"You've got to give those [Lakers] guys credit. They won championships so they have the right to put them up," Jordan said. "But at the same time, it doesn't say Lakers Arena outside. It says Staples."
Personally, I think this is great. You shouldn't have to play in anyone's shadow, just because you split an arena with them. The Clippers are the hot ticket in town now, they're the team with championship aspirations they're the team with maybe the best player in Los Angeles. This is their house now, until the Lakers reload or the Clips fall apart again, as they have so often in their history.
And I think the jabs are good. The Clippers are treated as second-class basketball citizens in LA, behind the perception that the Lakers have accomplished so much that the Clippers can never catch up. Part of remedying that is standing up for yourselves. It's making it clear that when you're the home team, it's your house.
And if you can do it while downplaying the history of the other organization, why not?
Of course, the next step in this is asking Pau Gasol and Kobe Bryant how they feel about it, and while the two aren't going to care all that much, their reactions will likely still be pretty funny.
Got to change the mindset. I like the move Doc.
Lakers talk Banners being covered up by Clippers
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9855685/los-angeles-lakers-offended-los-angeles-clippers-covering-championship-banners (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9855685/los-angeles-lakers-offended-los-angeles-clippers-covering-championship-banners)
QuoteLOS ANGELES -- The Los Angeles Lakers were mostly diplomatic when asked about the Los Angeles Clippers' new initiative, led by coach Doc Rivers, to cover up the Lakers' championship banners and retired uniforms during Clippers home games, but it didn't sit so well with L.A. native, and former Clipper, Nick Young.
"He can do that?" Young said after Lakers practice Sunday, the team's first since returning from China. "For real? That's disrespectful. We got to talk to Doc. He can't have that. We got to do something about that."
The Clippers revealed their Staples Center redecoration during a preseason game Friday, as they plastered giant posters of players Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, Jared Dudley and J.J. Redick over the Lakers' 16 championship banners and 10 retired uniforms.
"That's a lot of pull y'all are giving Doc," Young said, somewhat facetiously. "I think he shouldn't come in and have so much pull like that. He's got to earn his keep."
When a reporter argued that Rivers' championship resume from his time with the Boston Celtics should give the coach the credence to do so, Young retorted, "But he didn't win no title in L.A. That's where it's at. Look at all these banners in here, you can't shadow those up."
The Lakers and Clippers have shared the Staples Center since it opened for the 1999-2000 season, making them the only teams in the league to have such an arrangement.
"I guess if you were in the Clippers' organization you probably want to do that, too," Lakers point guard Steve Nash said. "It's their arena on their night, so I would try to make it feel like home."
Meanwhile, the Lakers are trying to make L.A. feel like home again after spending nine days in China.
Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni gave the team the day off Saturday to recover from their cross-continental trip home, which left many of the players jet-lagged. Young said he could not fall asleep until 5 a.m. Saturday morning after the team landed back in L.A. around 10:30 p.m. Friday night.
Despite the fatigue, every Laker other than Chris Kaman (stomach virus) and Kobe Bryant (Achilles rehabilitation) practiced Sunday, although D'Antoni cut the session short, so as not push his players too much. Nash was also held out of the end of practice because of stomach discomfort.
"They were tired," D'Antoni said. "During film session I think a couple of them nodded off. ... Of course, that could be normal, too."
Bryant was able to do some on-court sprinting and set shooting prior to the second of the Lakers' two exhibition games in China, but has yet to ramp up that activity with the team's regular-season opener against the Clippers looming less than 10 days away.
"I have no idea," D'Antoni said when asked if he knew when Bryant would be able to return to practice.
Bryant's teammates are starting to settle into the very real possibility of going into the season without him on the court. Young, who has taken 15 more shots than the next closest Laker through the first six preseason games, is prepared to continue his Mamba impression.
"That's something I've been trying to get in my thoughts and just working on my game and talking to coaches," Young said. "I've been talking to Kobe, too, about where to be at and picking my spots out there."
What does Bryant say to him?
"More specific type things, what I should have done right here," Young said. "He's telling me to watch film more and try to study the game of basketball more."
Gasol is also readying himself to pick up the slack without Bryant.
"I think I have to be more of a vocal leader on both sides of the floor," he said. "Make sure we organize offensively and the ball tries to get through my hands quite a bit so I can make plays for others and get open shots for my teammates, attract the defense, make the defense turn and make it easier for the guys."
Like D'Antoni, Gasol simply does not know when he'll have Bryant back by his side.
"I think he has a big desire of coming back, but he understands there's got to be a few steps that he needs to take in order for him to come back, and I don't think he's taken those steps yet," Gasol said. "He's going to come back when he's going to come back, whether that's in two weeks, three weeks, a month, two months. Who knows?"
Good move Doc.
NBA GMs think Miami Heat will repeat as Champions
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9862899/gm-poll-miami-heat-repeat-lebron-james-win-mvp (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9862899/gm-poll-miami-heat-repeat-lebron-james-win-mvp)
QuoteNBA general managers are playing it safe with predictions this season.
In a poll of all 30 GMs conducted by NBA.com, the Miami Heat were chosen to win their third consecutive title, and LeBron James was selected to capture his second straight MVP.
James would join Michael Jordan and Bill Russell with five MVPs. Only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (six) has more.
For the first time in the 12-year history of the survey, Kobe Bryant was not voted the top shooting guard in the league. That honor went to the Houston Rockets' James Harden.
The Orlando Magic's Victor Oladipo was voted most likely to be rookie of the year.
The GMs also selected the Heat to win the title last season. This year, the Indiana Pacers and San Antonio Spurs tied for second place in voting for most likely team to win it all.
KIA NBA Season Preview. Individual team previews, GM survey, player movement info, stats preview, and offseason review all located at this link.
http://www.nba.com/preview/ (http://www.nba.com/preview/)
Doc Rivers says Heat criticism of Pierce and Garnett "off base"
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9871607/doc-rivers-says-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-situation-different-ray-allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9871607/doc-rivers-says-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-situation-different-ray-allen)
QuoteDoc Rivers weighed in on the side of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce in the ex-Celtics vs. Heat feud.
After Ray Allen left in free agency for Miami, Garnett and Pierce were critical. After that duo was traded to the Nets, LeBron James blasted them for being hypocritical.
"Paul and Kevin were traded," Rivers said on "The Dan LeBatard Show" Wednesday. "They were traded. Paul was traded whether he wanted to be or not. Kevin was the only one who had to agree to be traded even though he had already been traded. He had to agree to the trade. That's completely different."
Rivers has also been criticized for orchestrating his departure from Boston. He thinks the Heat have a better argument there.
"You could make more of a case for me leaving than on Paul and Kevin," an animated Rivers said before reiterating that Pierce's and Garnett's situation is "completely different" from Allen's.
Rivers also admitted that he played a role in the decision to cover up the Lakers' championship banners at Staples Center during Clippers games.
"That was everyone's decision, but I definitely had a voice in it, and I was strong that I believed it should have happened years ago," he said."
I like how they want the reaction from the Lakers about the banners being covered, and they get quotes from Nick Young and Mike D'Antoni... what has either one of those guys won?
Wizards get Gortat in five player trade with Suns
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9879312/washington-wizards-reach-deal-marcin-gortat-shannon-brown-kendall-marshall-malcolm-lee-washington-wizards-emeka-okafor-pick (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9879312/washington-wizards-reach-deal-marcin-gortat-shannon-brown-kendall-marshall-malcolm-lee-washington-wizards-emeka-okafor-pick)
QuoteThe Washington Wizards, trying to strengthen their hand for a playoff push in the Eastern Conference, have acquired center Marcin Gortat from the Phoenix Suns, sources close to the talks told ESPN.
Sources said the deal sends Gortat and guards Shannon Brown, Malcolm Lee and Kendall Marshall to the Wizards for the expiring contract of veteran big man Emeka Okafor and a protected 2014 first-round pick (to No. 12).
The 6-foot-11 Gortat, 29, averaged 11.1 points and 8.5 rebounds per game last season for the Suns.
Suns are looking at potentially 4 first round picks in next year's draft.
Quote from: JustinP on October 26, 2013, 12:45:54 PM
Suns are looking at potentially 4 first round picks in next year's draft.
Unfortunately, they'll piss them all away on the flavor of the month like Alex Len. They have been awful in the draft over the past several seasons.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on October 26, 2013, 12:47:38 PM
Unfortunately, they'll piss them all away on the flavor of the month like Alex Len. They have been awful in the draft over the past several seasons.
Agreed. And trading Gortat is not the answer. He was one of their top two or three players last season which is telling but I can see why they would do a trade like this but as you said they have been drafting horribly over the past few seasons.
Wizards wave three players acquired in trade with Suns
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9895456/washington-wizards-waive-3-players-acquired-phoenix-suns-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9895456/washington-wizards-waive-3-players-acquired-phoenix-suns-deal)
QuoteWASHINGTON -- The Washington Wizards have waived the three players acquired with Marcin Gortat in last week's trade with the Phoenix Suns.
The Wizards announced Monday that they have cut ties with guards Shannon Brown, Malcolm Lee and Kendall Marshall.
The moves were expected. Marshall, Brown and Lee were included in the trade so that it would work financially under NBA rules.
The Wizards received center Gortat and the three players in exchange for injured center Emeka Okafor and a protected first-round draft pick.
Though we don't need him, I hope the Bobcats pick up Marshall. Or I wish the Knicks would too.
Quote from: JustinP on October 29, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
Though we don't need him, I hope the Bobcats pick up Marshall. Or I wish the Knicks would too.
Why?
He's too slow to defend anyone at the NBA level and he can't shoot. He's useless in the league, IMO. The book was out on him in Phoenix, which is they went out and got Dragic and Bledsoe to run the team.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on October 29, 2013, 01:03:37 PM
Why?
He's too slow to defend anyone at the NBA level and he can't shoot. He's useless in the league, IMO. The book was out on him in Phoenix, which is they went out and got Dragic and Bledsoe to run the team.
He is still a serviceable backup. The man can see the court and can flat out pass the ball. Though I will note he's not starting worthy.
Quote from: JustinP on October 29, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
He is still a serviceable backup. The man can see the court and can flat out pass the ball. Though I will note he's not starting worthy.
Marshall is just okay. He should be a bench guy for sure. When I saw the Suns play last year he didn't do so hot in that game.
No Kobe Bryant... no problem!
DOWN GOES THE CLIPPERS!
LAKERS DOMINATE THE 4TH QTR!!!
Quote from: Jon on October 30, 2013, 01:18:19 AM
No Kobe Bryant... no problem!
DOWN GOES THE CLIPPERS!
LAKERS DOMINATE THE 4TH QTR!!!
With the Bench ... no starter in the 4th QTR
Go Lakers
Clippers played like crap in the fourth. We'll see how good the Lakers really are when they play San Antonio on Friday. That game will tell a lot.
Quote from: GM Franchise on October 30, 2013, 01:57:12 AM
Clippers played like crap in the fourth. We'll see how good the Lakers really are when they play San Antonio on Friday. That game will tell a lot.
We're not that good... But... Good enough to beat the Clippers.
Quote from: Jon on October 30, 2013, 07:00:23 AM
We're not that good... But... Good enough to beat the Clippers.
Lakers will fall apart at some point this season.
He is mad Jon because Clippers suppose to be the top of the west and the Lakers bench out play them ... that not a good thing.
Quote from: Black Death on October 30, 2013, 12:06:44 PM
He is mad Jon because Clippers suppose to be the top of the west and the Lakers bench out play them ... that not a good thing.
No, I'm pointing out the obvious. Look at what happened last season. Unless they have some miraculous turn around I see more of the same for the Lakers.
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Quote from: Jon on October 30, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
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Eat Me. You know the one person more upset by that Laker win than anyone else ... Kobe Bean Bryant
Quote from: PapaPancho on October 30, 2013, 07:45:39 PM
Eat Me. You know the one person more upset by that Laker win than anyone else ... Kobe Bean Bryant
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Quote from: Jon on October 30, 2013, 07:37:16 PM
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This is what Laker fans did all of last season...
How? I don't even.....
Sixers upset the Heat. Rookie G Michael Carter-Williams a HUGE debut: 22 Pts, 12 Ast, 9 Stl, 7 Reb.
Tough to pick my team, as aside from following the playoffs last year this will be my first season of trying to pay attention to basketball.
Ideally the Raptors would be my choice, but coming late into the NBA game they've kinda sucked and the Clippers are usually the most exciting team to watch, so this year ill try and balance my support between Clippers and Raptors.
Big win for t.dot tonight against Celtics
Quote from: GM Franchise on October 30, 2013, 09:52:11 PM
Sixers upset the Heat. Rookie G Michael Carter-Williams a HUGE debut: 22 Pts, 12 Ast, 9 Stl, 7 Reb.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on October 30, 2013, 09:47:47 PM
How? I don't even.....
The Suns are going to be awful and that just makes me sad. It's going to be a long season.
Quote from: Reya Serra on October 31, 2013, 12:41:14 AM
The Suns are going to be awful and that just makes me sad. It's going to be a long season.
How can you say that when they just beat the Blazers by 13 tonight?
Quote from: GM Franchise on October 31, 2013, 01:16:24 AM
How can you say that when they just beat the Blazers by 13 tonight?
I don't want to say it I just believe it to be the truth. I'd be more than happy if they prove me wrong and manage to at least make the playoffs. I'm just not holding my breath until it happens.
Quote from: Reya Serra on October 31, 2013, 04:39:59 AM
I don't want to say it I just believe it to be the truth. I'd be more than happy if they prove me wrong and manage to at least make the playoffs. I'm just not holding my breath until it happens.
They are 2-0 now and Eric Bledsoe is playing at a high level as well as Miles Plumlee who is averaging a double double the first two games.
Eric Bledsoe's clutch game winner
Eric Bledsoe's CLUTCH Shot Wins It For The Suns (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByB34MbI2s#ws)
Blake Griffin and Chris Paul back to back Alley-Oops
Chris Paul and Blake Griffin With Back-to-Back-to-Back Alley-Oops (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyoL5BwqDOs#ws)
Derrick Rose game winner from all angles
Derrick Rose's Game Winner From All Angles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtKUtopu72o#ws)
Quote from: GM Franchise on November 02, 2013, 01:38:21 AM
They are 2-0 now and Eric Bledsoe is playing at a high level as well as Miles Plumlee who is averaging a double double the first two games.
But can that play be kept up over the course of the next 80? That's the question. Believe me, I'll be jumping for joy if it does but I just don't see it happening.
They look like a playoff dark horse team to me. I think they can sneak into the playoffs in the 5-8 range and give some team a challenge.
Quote from: GM Franchise on November 02, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
They look like a playoff dark horse team to me. I think they can sneak into the playoffs in the 5-8 range and give some team a challenge.
It's possible and I'd be glad to see it happen (though it'd most likely be shortlived if they do) I just don't have high hopes for it actually happening. I wish that was different though...in my perfect world they'd be the ones in the Finals and Lebron would be playing in Shanghai or something lol
But I will say that this year's team looks better than last year's in them getting rid of dead weight druggies and underperformers.
Quote from: Reya Serra on November 02, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
But I will say that this year's team looks better than last year's in them getting rid of dead weight druggies and underperformers.
This is true. They kept the best from last season and added in some good talent. Much improved team. Glad they kept Tucker around. I think he's really underrated especially from a defensive standpoint.
Quote from: Reya Serra on November 02, 2013, 06:03:52 PM
It's possible and I'd be glad to see it happen (though it'd most likely be shortlived if they do) I just don't have high hopes for it actually happening. I wish that was different though...in my perfect world they'd be the ones in the Finals and Lebron would be playing in Shanghai or something lol
Give it a few years, this season will be more about rebuilding and things can only go up next season with all those draft picks they have. Suns, IF they handle this right, will be a contender out West again in 3-4 seasons. The key will be who they bring in. Bledsoe and Plumlee have been great additions thus far.
Victor Oladipo 360 Dunk
Victor Oladipo's 360 Dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL6QEsivlBo#ws)
Anthony Davis One Handed Jam
Anthony Davis' SWEET Alley-Oop Slam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUEsGintEvk#ws)
Cleveland Cavaliers Anthony Bennett off to historically bad start
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1837663-cavs-top-pick-anthony-bennett-off-to-historically-rough-start?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1837663-cavs-top-pick-anthony-bennett-off-to-historically-rough-start?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)
QuoteNo. 1 overall draft picks in the NBA have been known for rough starts on occasion. Maybe none as rough as Anthony Bennett, however.
Through four games, Bennett is 0-of-15 from the field for the Cleveland Cavaliers. We repeat: four games, zero buckets.
Ouch.
The No. 1 pick of the 2013 NBA Draft, Bennett's selection by the Cleveland Cavaliers surprised many. As Benjamin Hoffman wrote in the New York Times at the time:
At No. 1, the Cleveland Cavaliers pulled a surprise by selecting Anthony Bennett, a power forward from Nevada-Las Vegas, rather than Nerlens Noel, a player talked of as a future No. 1 pick since he was in high school. The selection of Bennett, a big-bodied rebounding specialist who is expected to be an excellent pick-and-roll partner with Kyrie Irving, drew huge cheers from the crowd.
"I'm just as surprised as everyone else," Bennett said. "I didn't really have any idea who's going No. 1 or who was going No. 2. I heard everything was up for grabs."
No. 1, No. 2, apples or oranges; Bennett can't seem to toss a biscuit in the ocean at this point. The 6'8" forward has blanked so far during the young 2013-14 season. The Cavs managed a close, 93-92 win against the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night despite Bennett's impotence.
Bennett? Three tries, three misses in just under 10 minutes. As the rookie himself intimated, he's heading undercover.
It isn't that Bennett isn't trying, he's all about rookie hustle—grabbing rebounds, going hard to the hoop and, perhaps too often, chucking them up from outside in a desperate attempt to make something happen. Eight out of 15 tries have been from beyond the arc so far.
At some point, Bennett will look back and laugh. Not quite yet, though. Welcome to the NBA and high expectations, big man.
Sleeper in the East = Toronto Raptors
A team that will be carried by Derozan and Rudy Gay could be fun to watch.
Orlando is another under the radar team out east to watch as well.
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Quote from: James Porter on November 05, 2013, 12:43:15 AM
Sleeper in the East = Toronto Raptors
A team that will be carried by Derozan and Rudy Gay could be fun to watch.
Sadly, DeRozan and Gay can't seem to play well at the same time, it's always one or the other.
And they aren't playing JV all that much, which is odd. I know he gets into foul trouble, but even when he isn't, they sit him to play Hansborough.
Sadly this team needs to finish 8th (or better) or last. A 9th place finish will really boil blood.
Quote from: C.J. Gates on November 07, 2013, 07:34:14 AM
Sadly, DeRozan and Gay can't seem to play well at the same time, it's always one or the other.
And they aren't playing JV all that much, which is odd. I know he gets into foul trouble, but even when he isn't, they sit him to play Hansborough.
Sadly this team needs to finish 8th (or better) or last. A 9th place finish will really boil blood.
DeRozan and Gay are really the same player - they both need to dominate the ball to be successful. They should be running the ball through the post on every play because I'm not sure there is a center in the East that can guard JV one-on-one... the guy is a bull.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on November 07, 2013, 08:02:09 AM
DeRozan and Gay are really the same player - they both need to dominate the ball to be successful. They should be running the ball through the post on every play because I'm not sure there is a center in the East that can guard JV one-on-one... the guy is a bull.
He is. However they don't seem to be playing him as much. I think it was the game against Charlotte, he sat most of if not all of the 4th quarter and in the post game, Casey said he wanted to get JV out there more...but didn't.
As for DeMar and Rudy...you're right. Though I think I heard that it's not like they both play mediocre...its always one has a great game and one has a bad game. That might have been more in relation to last year, but still, if your two best scorers can't co-exist, you've got to move one of them to be able to compete. Right?
Who do you move, though? The book is all-but-written on Rudy Gay. He isn't going to play defense, will dominate the ball, and shoot below 50% from the field. Memphis was able to hide him on defense because their post play was so good for so long but the team actually got better offensively once they moved him.
DeRozen is in the same boat. He has some potential if he could go to a team where he'd be the 3rd or 4th option but until that contract runs out, he's really handcuffed to Toronto.
There really isn't a win-win scenario there.
It isn't. Sadly. And being from the Toronto area, I get to hear about it each time they play lol.
Consider yourself lucky. I live in Bobcats/Hornets land.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on November 08, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
Consider yourself lucky. I live in Bobcats/Hornets land.
Try being a Clippers fan before Blake Griffin was drafted and the Chris Paul trade lol.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on November 08, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
Consider yourself lucky. I live in Bobcats/Hornets land.
Al Jefferson starts tonight....he should help immensely. It means I don't have to watch Biyombo play 40 minutes a game.
Scary hoop collapse during Harlem Globetrotters game.
Scary Hoop Collapse on Globetrotter, Shatters Backboard (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgEW2_lJY6E#)
Tony Allen ejected for kicking Chris Paul in the face.
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Derrick Rose out indefinitely
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/10025640/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-indefinitely-needs-surgery-torn-medial-meniscus-knee (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/10025640/derrick-rose-chicago-bulls-indefinitely-needs-surgery-torn-medial-meniscus-knee)
QuoteChicago Bulls star point guard Derrick Rose needs surgery on his injured right knee and is out indefinitely.
The Bulls updated Rose's status Saturday, one day after the former league MVP suffered the injury against the Portland Trail Blazers.
Derrick Rose left Friday's loss to the Blazers on crutches after injuring his right knee.
Rose underwent an MRI, which revealed a medial meniscus tear in his knee. The three-time All-Star missed all of last season after suffering an injury to his left knee in the 2012 playoffs.
Rose was taken to the locker room at the end of the third quarter Friday, putting barely any weight on his right leg. He left the trainer's room on crutches after the game and appeared to be in considerable pain.
Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau said Friday that Rose "couldn't push off his right knee" and acknowledged that he was concerned about the 25-year-old.
Rose tore his left ACL in April 2012 and did not play at all last season while recovering from reconstructive surgery to the knee.
"I know how much work he's put into his rehab, the type of person he is, the type of player he is," Thibodeau said Friday. "So concern for that -- I feel for him because of all the things he does mean to our team."
Rose led Chicago with 20 points, five rebounds and three assists when he was helped off the court with 3:20 remaining in the third quarter Friday against Portland.
He lost his footing while trying to change direction to get back on defense when Nicolas Batum stole a pass from Joakim Noah and started the other way. It didn't appear there was any contact on the play, but Rose limped across the court and couldn't put any weight on his knee. After the Blazers scored, he came out of the game during a timeout.
Information from ESPNChicago.com's Nick Friedell was used in this report.
There goes the Bulls season again
Yeah it looks like it although they didn't do too bad last season without him. This makes it come down to the Heat and Pacers out East with Rose out.
Jordan's Hornets will bring back old purple and teal color scheme.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10030177/michael-jordan-charlotte-hornets-use-old-color-scheme (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10030177/michael-jordan-charlotte-hornets-use-old-color-scheme)
QuoteCHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Charlotte Bobcats owner Michael Jordan says his team will use purple and teal as its primary colors when it changes its name to the Hornets next season.
Those are the same colors players wore when the Hornets were in Charlotte from 1988-2002, before the franchise moved to New Orleans.
The new color scheme will be accented by secondary colors of black, gray and light blue.
The Hornets name became available when New Orleans became the Pelicans this season.
Jordan said in a release Sunday that "it was important to us to acknowledge the heritage of the Charlotte Hornets when bringing the name back to the market" and "the purple and teal color scheme was instantly recognizable as being associated with the original Hornets."
On Monday, the organization will begin a three-week campaign focused on "painting the city" with the return of the purple and teal colors to Charlotte.
Copyright 2013 by The Associated Press
Derrick Williams traded to Sacramento Kings
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10040488/minnesota-timberwolves-announce-derrick-williams-trade-sacramento-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10040488/minnesota-timberwolves-announce-derrick-williams-trade-sacramento-kings)
QuoteMINNEAPOLIS -- The Minnesota Timberwolves' starters have logged more minutes than any other starting group in the NBA this season, in part because former No. 2 overall draft pick Derrick Williams couldn't gain the trust of coach Rick Adelman.
Now Williams is gone.
New Wolves president Flip Saunders traded Williams to the Sacramento Kings for Luc Mbah a Moute in a deal that was completed Tuesday morning.
"Luc is known as one of the premier defensive players in the league with an ability to guard multiple positions," Saunders said in a statement issued by the team. "He adds a lot of energy, grit and a high basketball IQ to our team. We thank Derrick for his contributions to our organization and wish him well in Sacramento."
Williams became the highest draft pick in franchise history when the Wolves took him second in 2011. But his style of play didn't mesh with Adelman's system, and the impasse reached a breaking point early this season. Williams missed one game because of back spasms and did not play in four others as Adelman elected to go with Robbie Hummel and Dante Cunningham with the second unit instead.
Adelman wanted to see more energy from Williams on both ends of court. But Williams often said that he had difficulty getting into the flow of the game with such sporadic playing time. He bounced between small forward and power forward in two-plus years with the Wolves, averaging 10.1 points and 4.9 rebounds in 155 games.
Sacramento hopes Williams can bring some offensive punch to a team that could use more of it in the frontcourt alongside DeMarcus Cousins. The Kings have been searching for an answer at power forward after Carl Landry went out with a torn hip flexor in the preseason. They've used Jason Thompson and Patrick Patterson to varying degrees of success and see Williams as a player who may just need a change of scenery to realize his potential.
Williams is more comfortable playing power forward, which he showed when filling in for injured Kevin Love last season. But with Love back, and Cunningham earning Adelman's trust as a veteran off the bench, there was little room for the 22-year-old Williams. He played less than 15 minutes per game this season, much of it in garbage time during blowouts.
The move will help the Wolves balance their roster, relieving a glut at power forward while addressing a weakness at small forward. The 6-foot-8 Mbah a Moute played alongside Love at UCLA and brings some toughness and defensive presence that the Wolves are sorely lacking.
With Chase Budinger still not close to playing while he recovers from knee surgery, the Wolves needed another body to help take some pressure off Corey Brewer as the team's primary perimeter defender.
Adelman has told others in the organization that he likes Mbah a Moute's game, an important endorsement if the Wolves were going to cut ties with Williams.
Mbah a Moute's size will help the Wolves to match up better with some of the toughest covers in the West, including Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant, the Clippers' Blake Griffin and Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki.
Copyright 2013 by The Associated Press
D. Rose has to be the softest athlete in sports.
Quote from: Cory on November 26, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
D. Rose has to be the softest athlete in sports.
Cory sorry that a fuck up statement ... He can not control getting injury ...Shit happens.
But it's true BD.
Kid can't stay healthy.
Quote from: Jon on November 26, 2013, 06:20:53 PM
But it's true BD.
Kid can't stay healthy.
That does not make him soft and you guys know that.
The way he plays the games puts a lot of pounding on his knees over the years. injuries happens ... it just mess up that it happen to him. I hope he can recover and come back. But he going to have change his playing style now
I think it's something genetic with the muscles in his legs. His legs are the issue, not so much so with the softness.
Quote from: Black Death on November 26, 2013, 06:28:29 PM
That does not make him soft and you guys know that.
The way he plays the games puts a lot of pounding on his knees over the years. injuries happens ... it just mess up that it happen to him. I hope he can recover and come back. But he going to have change his playing style now
Should have already learned that.
Quote from: Cory on November 26, 2013, 05:10:55 PM
D. Rose has to be the softest athlete in sports.
No, he's not the softest nor most fragile nor the unluckiest. Injuries happen sometimes happens to the same person more than once. I mean, if we're saying being injured alot, Chad Pennington has to be considered soft. Chase Utley is soft by those standards. Why people hate on him so much is beyond me, I'm not a Bulls fan and I'm devastated, I love watching D. Rose play whenever I can.
Quote from: GM Franchise on November 26, 2013, 06:34:14 PM
I think it's something genetic with the muscles in his legs. His legs are the issue, not so much so with the softness.
The way he cuts puts tremendous pressure on his knees. It was only a matter of time.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on November 26, 2013, 10:28:24 PM
The way he cuts puts tremendous pressure on his knees. It was only a matter of time.
yep... what he going to have to do now ... it heal up and change his style of play... he not going to be that same player any more work on the mid-range jumper ... stop and pop ... cut back on the slashing game. He going to have to strength other aspects of his game now. Wish him the best of luck
Jason kid ... you sneaky mofo
Jason Kidd denies Premeditated Spill
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10048774/jason-kidd-brooklyn-nets-denies-intentionally-dropping-cup-sidelines (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10048774/jason-kidd-brooklyn-nets-denies-intentionally-dropping-cup-sidelines)
QuoteNEW YORK -- Jason Kidd intended to make a splash as coach of the Brooklyn Nets, but probably didn't expect anything like what happened Wednesday night.
With 8.3 seconds left in Wednesday's game against the Los Angeles Lakers and his team out of timeouts, Kidd, who was holding a cup of soda, appeared to say "hit me" to point guard Tyshawn Taylor in order to stop the game so the team could draw up a last-second offensive play.
Jason Kidd came up with a creative way to "ice" a free-throw shooter late in the Nets' loss to the Lakers, and social media reacted. The Moment
After Lakers guard Jodie Meeks made the first of a pair of free throws, giving his team a 96-94 lead, Taylor walked toward Kidd near the sideline and collided with his coach, who was holding a cup of soda at the time. The cup of soda spilled on to the court. While it was being cleaned up, the coaching staff drew up a last-second play. Taylor was subbed out of the game for forward Mirza Teletovic.
Adding to the chaos of the moment, while Nets assistant Tim Welch drew up the team's final play, two Lakers appeared to be in the middle of the huddle.
Meeks then made the second free throw, and on the ensuing Brooklyn possession, small forward Paul Pierce missed a 3-pointer that would've tied the game with 2.2 seconds remaining. The Nets ended up losing to the Lakers, 99-94, at Barclays Center.
"Cup slipped out of my hand while I was getting Ty," Kidd said of "Cupgate." "Sweaty palms. I was never good with the ball.
"In the heat of the battle, you're trying to get guys in and out of the game, and the cup feel out of my hand."
Video replays appeared to show Kidd saying "Hit me," something Taylor flatly denied.
Said Taylor: "No [Kidd didn't say that]. I wasn't paying attention. I just kind of bumped him. I didn't even know he was holding [anything]. [But] coach was drinking a soda on the sideline. I was like, 'What's he doing?'
"It could ice a free throw shooter and be a timeout when you don't have one, but that wasn't the thought process. I was just coming out, and he was in my way. 'Coach, get out of my way, bro.' "
The rookie coach's seemingly slick move could end up being investigated by the NBA.
It isn't the first time Kidd has done something odd to create a stoppage in play.
Back when he was playing with the Dallas Mavericks, Kidd made contact with Atlanta Hawks coach Mike Woodson as the point guard dribbled up the sideline. Kidd appeared to initiate the contact with Woodson, though he pointed at Woodson as if to show the coach impeded his progress down court.
Mike Mazzeo is a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com.
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awesome.
Jason Kidd fined 50K for Spillgate Incident
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10050958/jason-kidd-brooklyn-nets-fined-50000-intentionally-dropping-cup-sidelines (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10050958/jason-kidd-brooklyn-nets-fined-50000-intentionally-dropping-cup-sidelines)
QuoteNEW YORK -- Nets coach Jason Kidd has been fined $50,000 for appearing to intentionally drop a cup of soda on the court late in Wednesday night's loss to the Lakers, the league announced Thursday.
With 8.3 seconds left and his team out of timeouts, Kidd, who was holding a cup of soda, appeared to say "hit me" to point guard Tyshawn Taylor in order to stop the game so the team could draw up a last-second offensive play.
Reaction: Kidd Gets Spilly With It
Jason Kidd came up with a creative way to "ice" a free throw shooter late in the Nets' loss to the Lakers Wednesday, and social media reacted. The Moment
After Lakers guard Jodie Meeks made the first of a pair of free throws, giving his team a 96-94 lead, Taylor walked toward Kidd near the sideline and collided with his coach, who was holding a cup of soda at the time. The cup of soda spilled on to the court. While it was being cleaned up, the coaching staff drew up a last-second play. Taylor was subbed out of the game for forward Mirza Teletovic.
Adding to the chaos of the moment, while Nets assistant John Welch drew up the team's final play, two Lakers appeared to be in the middle of the huddle.
Meeks then made the second free throw, and on the ensuing Brooklyn possession, small forward Paul Pierce missed a 3-pointer that would've tied the game with 2.2 seconds remaining. The Nets ended up losing to the Lakers 99-94 at Barclays Center.
"Cup slipped out of my hand while I was getting Ty," Kidd said of "Cupgate." "Sweaty palms. I was never good with the ball.
"In the heat of the battle, you're trying to get guys in and out of the game, and the cup fell out of my hand."
Video replays appeared to show Kidd saying "Hit me," something Taylor flatly denied.
Said Taylor: "No [Kidd didn't say that]. I wasn't paying attention. I just kind of bumped him. I didn't even know he was holding [anything]. [But] coach was drinking a soda on the sideline. I was like, 'What's he doing?'
"It could ice a free throw shooter and be a timeout when you don't have one, but that wasn't the thought process. I was just coming out, and he was in my way. 'Coach, get out of my way, bro.' "
It isn't the first time Kidd has done something odd to create a stoppage in play.
Back when he was playing with the Dallas Mavericks, Kidd made contact with Atlanta Hawks coach Mike Woodson as the point guard dribbled up the sideline. Kidd appeared to initiate the contact with Woodson, though he pointed at Woodson as if to show the coach impeded his progress down court.
Information from Mike Mazzeo, a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com, was used in this report.
Heat seeking Backcourt Trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10088748/miami-heat-talk-trade-dwyane-wade-out (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10088748/miami-heat-talk-trade-dwyane-wade-out)
QuoteWith Dwyane Wade missing numerous games as he manages knee issues, the Miami Heat have recently started trade talks looking for backcourt help, multiple league sources told ESPN.
Dwyane Wade missed his fifth game of the season Thursday night, this one due to illness, as the Heat lost 107-87 to the Bulls in Chicago.
Wade missed his fifth game of the season Thursday night, this one due to illness, as the visiting Heat lost 107-87 to the Chicago Bulls.
Coach Erik Spoelstra started Ray Allen in Wade's spot, the first start of Allen's tenure with Heat. Allen is the third player Spoelstra has tried in place of Wade this season.
The Heat (14-5) have a glut of big men and have been looking into trading one for a guard, or to clear a roster spot so they can sign a player later. Center-forward Joel Anthony, who has played in just five games this season, is one of the players who may be available.
Wade is still recovering from offseason procedures on his knees and is not currently playing in back-to-back games. Last month, after Wade did play in a back-to-back, knee soreness caused him to miss the next two games. Wade also missed Tuesday's game against the Detroit Pistons with knee soreness.
The Heat have six back-to-backs scheduled over the next six weeks.
The Heat, 2-3 without Wade this season, were 11-2 when he didn't play last season and 14-3 in 2011-12. Spoelstra has also tried James Jones and Roger Mason Jr. as starters when Wade has been out.
Last season, the Heat routinely started Mike Miller when Wade needed days off to deal with knee or other issues. Miller was effective, averaging 10 points, five rebounds and three assists while shooting 49 percent in his 17 starts. The Heat released Miller over the summer using the amnesty provision, a move that is projected to save them about $17 million in luxury taxes this season.
Miller is averaging 6.2 points and 3.5 assists as a reserve for the Memphis Grizzlies this season.
Kobe Bryant to return to action Sunday
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10091794/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-make-season-debut-sunday (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10091794/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-make-season-debut-sunday)
QuoteSACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Kobe Bryant will make his season debut for the Los Angeles Lakers on Sunday against the Toronto Raptors at Staples Center.
It will mark his first game since tearing his left Achilles nearly eight months ago.
Bryant announced the news by linking to a two-minute video on his Facebook page Friday afternoon. The video showed his No. 24 Lakers uniform floating in the middle of the screen and being battered by the elements -- wind, rain, snow, etc.
Eventually the jersey is torn down the middle of the chest, presumably representing the Achilles tear that Bryant suffered, before being repaired with a blinding beam of sunlight.
The video begins with the full-screen title "Seasons of Legend" and ends with "The Legend Continues ... December 8."
The 18-year veteran said Thursday he would "probably" have a reduced amount of playing time when he returns. He averaged 38.6 minutes per game last season.
"Getting your sea legs, it takes some time to do that," Bryant said. "That's why we have preseason games and it builds to the regular season. It just takes a while, no matter how much running and conditioning you do, to get out there and play is different. So I'm sure I'll be limited in some capacity."
ESPN announcer had a great line about the video ... Either Kobe coming back as the Dark Knight or the Undertaker ... just busted out laughing with that line. great to see the Black Mamba return
Charles Barkley interview on CNN
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2013/12/13/charles-barkley-unplugged.cnn.html (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/sports/2013/12/13/charles-barkley-unplugged.cnn.html)
LeBron James Gets in Mario Chalmer's Face During Timeout
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1894512-lebron-james-gets-in-mario-chalmers-face-during-timeout?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1894512-lebron-james-gets-in-mario-chalmers-face-during-timeout?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)
QuoteMembers of the Miami Heat lost their cool on Wednesday night in a game against the Indiana Pacers. LeBron James and Mario Chalmers had to be separated during a timeout
This is usually a group that seems to have a lot of fun on and off the court, but James exploded off the bench at Chalmers. It happened during a big game, so emotions were already running high.
Two things:
1) Haslem knew whatever it was that Chalmers said was going to piss off Lebron, an instant after Lebron gets up, Haslem already has him by the arm and is pulling him away.
2) The face on the bald guy behind Lebron.
Lebron would murder Chalmers. Easy.
Chalmers will always be treated like the red-headed step child.
I believe Kobe might just be finished.
Quote from: JustinP on December 19, 2013, 08:48:32 PM
I believe Kobe might just be finished.
I say no ... ain't over till it over
Quote from: Black Death on December 20, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
I say no ... ain't over till it over
I think it's going to be spiraling effect. He is going to try and compensate one body part for another and his knees and ankles will in turn continue to give him problems. I don't see him finishing his two year contract extension.
Quote from: JustinP on December 20, 2013, 03:10:52 PM
I think it's going to be spiraling effect. He is going to try and compensate one body part for another and his knees and ankles will in turn continue to give him problems. I don't see him finishing his two year contract extension.
Remember Fat Charles Barkley? Or Larry Bird with a broken back? When a star goes its ugly.
Quote from: PapaPancho on December 20, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Remember Fat Charles Barkley? Or Larry Bird with a broken back? When a star goes its ugly.
Michael Jordan. Wizards. Enough said.
New Charlotte Hornets logo unveiled.
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This one is better...
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Quote from: GM Franchise on December 21, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
New Charlotte Hornets logo unveiled.
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I am all for the old logo , I see nothing wrong with the new one.
Them changing the logo from the old one was one of the conditions of them changing the team from the Bobcats to the Hornets.
The new logo looks good to me, not as cartoonish as the old one. Now we'll have to see if the new sleeker look will translate to actual wins on the court.
ESPN's Chad Ford: Anthony Bennett 'Looking Like' Worst No. 1 Pick in 20 Years
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899413-espns-chad-ford-anthony-bennett-looking-like-worst-no-1-pick-in-20-years?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t4 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899413-espns-chad-ford-anthony-bennett-looking-like-worst-no-1-pick-in-20-years?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t4)
QuoteAnthony Bennett has been terrible.
How terrible? He's apparently the worst top pick in two decades.
Or so cautions ESPN's Chad Ford.
"It's very early, but right now, he's looking like the worst in the past 20 years," Ford explains, via The Plain Dealer's Jodie Valade. "That includes Greg Oden. Oden was injured all the time, but when he played, he at least looked like a No. 1 pick."
Band-Aids can be found down Aisle 2, Mr. Bennett. You're going to need a dozen industrial-sized boxes to dress the wounds Ford inflicts.
Stock up on some Mad Libs while you're at checkout, too. You'll need a distraction for when you realize Ford is totally serious and completely justified.
Bennett is averaging 2.2 points and two rebounds on 27.7 percent shooting in 20 games this season. He's only logging 10 minutes a night, but that's because he hasn't given the Cleveland Cavaliers any reasons to play him more.
It took Bennett five games to nail his first shot of the year. That's about the level of play Jason Kidd demonstrated near the end of his career.
In those four previous games, Bennett's stat line looked a little something like this:
Those are some pretty depressing numbers.
They also make his continued struggles far from surprising. There was an initial shock, but if he was off to a historically bad start, then it's only fitting that he should find himself the subject of notorious draft busts now.
"Still early" isn't a good enough excuse anymore. "Bust" may be a strong label, but Bennett is well on his way to deserving such a tag.
The last rookie to average under three points and 2.1 rebounds while connecting on fewer than 30 percent of his shots in at least 10 minutes per game for an entire season was Craig Brackins in 2010-11. He's no longer in the NBA.
Before him, there was Will Blalock, drafted 60th overall in 2006. He fizzled out after just one season.
See where I'm going with this?
"Hopeless" isn't an adequate word to describe Bennett. There is still time for him to turn things around. He had shoulder surgery over the offseason, and any lingering effects could be negatively impacting his play. But hope is waning.
"I'm just as surprised as everyone else," Bennett said of being drafted first overall, per the New York Times' Benjamin Hoffman.
Something tells me Bennett's surprise, then, will be surpassed by this one—the realization that he could be the worst No. 1 pick in 20 years.
As I said when he was picked, this was not a good first round pick and as a UNLV watching him play I have no clue what they were thinking drafting him first overall.
Russell Westbrook out until All Star Break after knee surgery
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10201848/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10201848/russell-westbrook-oklahoma-city-thunder-knee-surgery)
QuoteOklahoma City Thunder All-Star point guard Russell Westbrook had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee Friday and will be out through the All-Star break, the team announced.
"Russell has been playing pain free but recently had experienced increased swelling," Thunder general manager Sam Presti said in a statement Friday. "After consultation and consideration by his surgeon in Los Angeles, a plan was established to monitor the swelling that included a series of scheduled MRIs.
"On the most recent MRI, it was determined by the surgeon that there was an area of concern that had not previously existed nor was detectable in the previous procedures, and it was necessary to evaluate Russell further. The consulting physician determined that arthroscopic surgery was necessary to address the swelling that was taking place. We know that Russell's work ethic and commitment will help him return to the level of play that we have all come to appreciate."
Westbrook tore the lateral meniscus in his right knee during the second game of the NBA playoffs in April. He underwent an initial surgery for the injury April 27 and had another surgery Oct. 1 to remove a loose stitch from the first procedure.
At the time, the Thunder said he would miss the first four to six weeks of the regular season, but he ended up returning Nov. 3 against the Phoenix Suns, missing just two games.
Westbrook has helped Oklahoma City to a 23-5 record and second place in the Western Conference entering Friday. He is averaging 21.3 points, 7.0 assists and 6.0 rebounds per game in 32.9 minutes.
In his last game out, the 25-year-old Westbrook had 14 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists in a Christmas Day rout of the New York Knicks.
The Thunder visit the Charlotte Bobcats on Friday night.
I will be at the Bobcats game tonight against the Thunder.
Quote from: JustinP on December 27, 2013, 04:50:50 PM
I will be at the Bobcats game tonight against the Thunder.
That's awesome. Have fun. :)
Cavaliers suspend Andrew Bynum
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10204879/andrew-bynum-cleveland-cavaliers-suspended-trade-block (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10204879/andrew-bynum-cleveland-cavaliers-suspended-trade-block)
QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers suspended center Andrew Bynum indefinitely Saturday for conduct detrimental to the team.
In addition, the Cavs will begin aggressively looking to trade Bynum, sources told ESPN.com.
Andrew Bynum was an All-Star in Los Angeles, where he helped the Lakers win two NBA championships. But the 7-foot center missed all of last season with knee injuries and has struggled this season in Cleveland.
Cleveland has until Jan. 7 to decide if it will guarantee his contract for the rest of the season. Bynum signed a two-year, $24 million deal with the Cavs last summer, but the team-friendly contract included only $6 million in guaranteed money.
The decision to suspend Bynum was made Friday, sources said. Bynum did not travel with the team to Boston for Saturday's game against the Celtics.
"It's a terrible situation internally with our team," All-Star guard Kyrie Irving said before the Cavs faced the Celtics. "It's something we have to get over."
It is unclear what led to Bynum's suspension. Cavs coach Mike Brown did not disclose any details regarding the suspension but expressed concern for his players.
"I'm worried about the guys in the locker room," Brown said prior to Saturday afternoon's game. "It's simple as that. In our business, there are a lot of ups and a lot of downs throughout the season.
"So what you do as a head coach is keep moving forward. Any time you look back on anything or dwell on anything, is wasted energy from the guys in the locker room, which is obviously very important."
After missing all of last season with knee injuries, Bynum has returned to play in 24 games (19 starts) this season, averaging 8.6 points and 5.3 rebounds while shooting just 42 percent from the floor. But Brown believes that the 26-year-old Bynum, a former All-Star, still can be a high-impact player.
"Yeah, he's a good player," Brown said. "I think everybody saw glimpses of it."
Bynum has admitted on several occasions that he's struggled mentally with learning to play with less mobility and in pain with his knees. Brown also refuted the notion that the 7-foot Bynum doesn't like basketball.
"I've never heard that before," Brown said. "That's something that you'd have to catch up with him and ask."
Because of his flexible contract and that he's proven he can play again, Bynum could have some suitors in the trade market. Brown would not respond when asked if Bynum had played his last game with Cleveland.
Cavaliers spokesman Tad Carper told ESPN.com that the team has canceled a promotional giveaway featuring Bynum.
The Cavaliers had intended to give Bynum Fathead wall decorations to all childen 14 and under at Sunday's home game against the Golden State Warriors. Carper told ESPN.com that the team is working on a replacement plan. Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert also owns Fathead.
There were times this season Bynum showed flashes of being a dominant post player again. But recently he has lacked energy or enthusiasm, and on Monday he missed all 11 field-goal attempts and didn't score in 22 minutes against Detroit. On Thursday night, Bynum struggled to guard Atlanta's Al Horford and was taken out in the third quarter. Bynum didn't return despite Horford suffering a torn chest muscle in the Hawks' double-overtime win.
Cavs guard Jarrett Jack said Bynum wasn't disruptive and that his quietness may have been misinterpreted.
"That's just kind of how people are sometimes," Jack said. "People like to march to the beat of their own drum. That's not saying you're a bad guy, that's just how you are. I thought we actually had a good relationship with him. He wasn't somebody that was reluctant to speak to people. I thought we had a decent bit of camaraderie and hopefully this will pass and be over and we'll be back at full strength soon."
ESPN.com's Darren Rovell, ESPNBoston.com's Chris Forsberg and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Probably not going to help Bennett's confidence calling him the worst draft pick in 20 years...lol
Memphis Grizzlies have signed a new player named Charvis Brewer
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http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/features/charvis-brewer-joins-grizzlies-131230 (http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/features/charvis-brewer-joins-grizzlies-131230)
QuoteCharvis Brewer had a wish to be drafted by an NBA team. On December 29, 2013, Charvis his wish came true when he was drafted by the Memphis Grizzlies. Brewer, 8, is the youngest player ever drafted by an NBA team. He will add even more depth to the Grizzlies bench.
Mike Conley and Grizzlies play-by-play announcer, Pete Pranica, surprised Brewer with a lunchtime visit prior to practice. Afterward, Charvis signed contract and attended his first practice with the entire team at FedExForum. In true team spirit, Zach Randolph took young Brewer under his wing to help the Grizzlies young gun get acquainted with his new digs at Grizzlies HQ.
According to Coach Joerger, Charvis will be active in in his first NBA game, Memphis Grizzlies vs. Chicago Bulls on December 30, 2013. His family and friends at the Mid-South Make A Wish Foundation will be in attendance as Grizz Nation will get the chance to welcome our new addition into the Grizzlies family during the game.
Video: Nets leave court early in embarrassing end to blowout loss to Spurs
http://nba.si.com/2014/01/01/brooklyn-nets-leave-court-early-jason-kidd-san-antonio-spurs/ (http://nba.si.com/2014/01/01/brooklyn-nets-leave-court-early-jason-kidd-san-antonio-spurs/)
Brooklyn Nets leave court early during blowout loss to San Antonio Spurs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srcQHFNGEOs#ws)
QuoteIn an embarrassing end to a 113-92 blowout loss to the Spurs on Tuesday, members of the Nets simply walked off the court and headed to the locker room even though there was 0.2 seconds remaining in the game. Their absence delayed the game long enough that coach Jason Kidd was forced to call a timeout so that five Brooklyn players could be rounded up, allowing for a legal inbounding of the basketball to officially end the game.
The bizarre scene unfolded with San Antonio beginning its final possession with 24.2 seconds remaining in the game. Given that the result was well in hand – San Antonio held a 30-point lead entering the fourth quarter — the Spurs did the right thing etiquette-wise by by allowing the 24-second clock to run out and taking a turnover rather than launching an unsportsmanlike final shot. Players from both teams shook hands on the court during the game's closing seconds and the final buzzer sounded, but the referees immediately signaled for Brooklyn to inbound the ball in front of their bench.
The only problem: virtually the entire Nets roster, including players that were in the game and those that were on the bench during the closing minutes, was already well off the court and not looking back. Without five players, Brooklyn couldn't inbound the ball and the game was stuck. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich could only smirk as the scene unfolded, and Kidd was captured on camera with a confused, glazed look on his face as he chatted with one of the officials.
As the delay continued, both the AT&T Center crowd and the Fox Sports Southwest television broadcasting crew grew restless, and Kidd was eventually forced to take a timeout. Finally, Andrei Kirilenko emerged from the locker room to help end the nightmare, and Mason Plumlee inbounded the ball, signalling the game's official end once it was touched.
The loss dropped Brooklyn to 10-21 on the season and it was Nets' sixth defeat in their last seven games. Writers covering the team saw some symbolism in Brooklyn's early exit, and the post-game quotes that followed were predictably discouraging.
From Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News...
The year ended fittingly for the Nets: They were confused and dysfunctional, symbolically quitting on another blowout defeat. With 0.2 seconds left after a shot-clock violation, most of the Nets left the court for the locker room believing the game was over. Coach Jason Kidd had to use a timeout just to get five players on the court and finish Tuesday night's 113-92 blowout to the Spurs, while the crowd in San Antonio booed Brooklyn's predicament.
Happy New Year!
"It's embarrassing. I don't know if I've ever been part of this many blowouts in one season already," Paul Pierce said.
From Tim Bontemps of the New York Post...
To add insult to injury, the Nets left the court with 0.2 seconds remaining after the clock operator initially thought the game was over and sounded the final horn, forcing Kidd to eventually call a timeout to get enough players out onto the court to throw the ball in and mercifully end the game.
"They thought the game was over," Kidd said. "There was no confusion. They thought the game was over, but unfortunately there was 0.2 seconds left."
From Daniel Savitzy of TheBrooklynGame...
The Nets tonight could not even bother to drag their sorry a—- out of the tunnel to finish the final 0.2 seconds of the game. Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce seem disinterested, Deron Williams doesn't seem to care, and what's left is a smorgasbord of players who'd like to play but just can't carry a team without the primary players. This is a bleak team with a bleak outlook.
San Antonio improved to 25-7 with the win.
According to Doc Rivers, Chris Paul out 3-5 weeks with separated shoulder.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910602-chris-paul-injury-updates-on-clippers-pgs-shoulder-and-return (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910602-chris-paul-injury-updates-on-clippers-pgs-shoulder-and-return)
Yep, not good for the Clippers.
NBA Trade Rumors: Knicks Carmelo Anthony For Clippers Blake Griffin? Lakers, Bulls, Cavs Talking Pau Gasol, Luol Deng, Andrew Bynum Deals?
http://www.ibtimes.com/nba-trade-rumors-knicks-carmelo-anthony-clippers-blake-griffin-lakers-bulls-cavs-talking-pau-gasol (http://www.ibtimes.com/nba-trade-rumors-knicks-carmelo-anthony-clippers-blake-griffin-lakers-bulls-cavs-talking-pau-gasol)
QuoteSet to make his return after sitting out the last three games, New York Knick Carmelo Anthony continues to be at the center of trade rumors and speculation as the new year begins.
The 29-year-old has publicly stated his intentions for the upcoming summer when he can either opt-in or out of his current deal with Knicks, and test free agency. The Knicks have spiraled to the bottom of the Eastern Conference at the worst possible time, and several reports over the course of the season have indicated that Anthony is leaning towards leaving.
However according to a report from the New York Post, Anthony still wants to play in a big market like New York, Los Angeles, or Chicago, and is also afraid of becoming a "scapegoat" like Stephon Marbury in the mid-2000s.
Citing sources, the Post indicated that Anthony would be more open to playing with the Clippers and friend Chris Paul over the Lakers, but that a sign-and-trade deal that includes superstar Blake Griffin would be necessary under current league salary cap rules.
Anthony would also reportedly be open to the Bulls because he respects head coach Tom Thibodeau, which could have attributed to rumors the coach was line to replace Mike Woodson.
A former teammate also told the New York Daily News that he believes Anthony won't be in New York much longer.
"I think he's leaving. I've played with Melo for a long time and he knows he can't win here," the anonymous source said. "At this stage, all he wants to do is win. That's why he'll leave."
The Knicks are obviously in a highly precarious situation, and might be inclined to consider Chicago's biggest trade chip in Luol Deng should they be forced to move Anthony before the Feb. 21 trade deadline.
Though it's been reported Chicago is hoping to re-sign Deng, whose $14 million contract expires at the conclusion of the season, the team has still been linked to several trades including one most recently for Cleveland Cavaliers center Andrew Bynum.
Before the holiday ESPN said the Cavs had approached both the Bulls and Lakers about Bynum. Since helping the Lakers win back-to-back titles, Bynum missed all of the 2012-13 season while with Philadelphia, and signed a two-year, $24.7 million deal with Cleveland this past summer.
Bynum's appeared in 24 games this season, starting 19, but was suspended on Dec. 28 for conduct detrimental to the team. As reported by Yahoo! Sports, Bynum apparently has no desire to play basketball anymore, but there has been no public statement detailing the center's fall out with Cleveland.
Chicago's interest in a Bynum for Deng deal likely begins and ends with salary cap relief. According to the Chicago Tribune, the second half of Bynum's salary, roughly $12 million, can be waived before Jan.7. With both Bynum and Deng off the books, Chicago would free up about $20 million in cap space.
The Lakers could bring back Bynum for the same reasons, if they trade the expiring contract of Pau Gasol. Talks have apparently stalled between the two teams, as L.A. reportedly wants another asset on top of Bynum's contract. According to ESPN the Lakers want a prospect or first-round pick, and waiving Bynum's deal would put them below the luxury-tax threshold for the first time
My new favorite sports fan...Angry Knicks Fan.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910653-angry-knicks-fan-returns-after-jr-smiths-most-recent-blunder?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910653-angry-knicks-fan-returns-after-jr-smiths-most-recent-blunder?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)
QuoteNew York Knicks fans are angry. Actually, they're really angry.
The latest blunder for the Knicks came on January 3, with J.R. Smith putting up a questionable three-point shot against the Houston Rockets instead of running the clock out for the last shot. The Knicks lost the game, and this NSFW video below was released shortly after by a very angry Knicks fan.
This was the same Knicks fan who was made famous a little less than a month earlier for another NSFW rant video. This most recent video was much shorter than the 10-minute rant in the earlier one.
Angry Knicks fan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRmldhGEndI#ws)
Here is the original NSFW rant video featuring Angry Knicks Fan.
Knicks Fan Goin' In! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQu_T6-tBZk#)
EDIT:
Found one more epic Angry Knicks Fan video.
Knicks Fan Still Goin' In! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boz8HRWgoHM#ws)
Eric Bledsoe (knee) out for a week
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10242799/eric-bledsoe-phoenix-suns-week-sprained-knee (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10242799/eric-bledsoe-phoenix-suns-week-sprained-knee)
QuotePHOENIX -- The Phoenix Suns say guard Eric Bledsoe will be out for at least another week with a sprained right knee.
The injury bothered Bledsoe in the Suns' victory over the Clippers on Monday and he sat out the team's home loss to Memphis on Thursday night.
After the morning shootaround on Saturday, the Suns issued a news release saying Bledsoe would miss Saturday night's game against Milwaukee and would be re-evaluated in a week.
Bledsoe and Goran Dragic have formed the double-point guard lineup that has Phoenix off to a surprisingly successful start to the season.
Bledsoe will miss most, if not all of, Phoenix's five-game trip that begins Tuesday night in Chicago.
Copyright 2014 by The Associated Press
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Andrew Bynum traded for Luol Deng
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10255605/cleveland-cavaliers-agree-trade-andrew-bynum-chicago-bulls-luol-deng (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10255605/cleveland-cavaliers-agree-trade-andrew-bynum-chicago-bulls-luol-deng)
QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers have agreed to trade Andrew Bynum and three future draft picks to the Chicago Bulls for All-Star forward Luol Deng.
The deal will save the Bulls more than $15 million in salary and luxury taxes because they are expected to release Bynum by 5 p.m. on Tuesday before the second half of his $12.3 million contract becomes guaranteed. The move will take the Bulls below the luxury tax.
The Cavs will send a first-round pick -- top 10 protected over the next two years -- that the Sacramento Kings owe them to the Bulls, plus two future second-round picks that belong to the Portland Trail Blazers. The Bulls will also have the right to swap 2015 first-round picks with the Cavs as long as the Cavs' pick is outside the lottery.
Deng, who has missed time recently because of a sore Achilles, is averaging 19 points and 6.9 rebounds in 23 games for the Bulls this season. An All-Star for the past two seasons, Deng becomes the first star to play small forward for the Cavs since the departure of LeBron James in free agency in 2010.
The Bulls had resisted trading Deng after they failed to reached a contract extension with him before the season. But with a season-ending injury to Derrick Rose and the offer of savings plus three draft picks, they pulled the trigger.
The Cavs had discussions for more than a week with the Los Angeles Lakers involving in a deal for Pau Gasol but could not come to an agreement. Part of the reason was the Cavs were unwilling to include picks for Gasol as they ultimately were for Deng.
Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert welcomed Deng on Twitter early Tuesday morning.
Long term as a Bulls fan I see this as a good move, but for the moment its a step back or so...I will miss Deng who to be honest got his All-Star apperances similar to why half of China vote for players of the Houston Rockets.
Onwards and upwards...in about 2 seasons.
Eric Bledsoe out indefinitely
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10269880/eric-bledsoe-phoenix-suns-needs-knee-surgery-indefinitely (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10269880/eric-bledsoe-phoenix-suns-needs-knee-surgery-indefinitely)
QuotePhoenix Suns guard Eric Bledsoe, a top contender for the NBA's Most Improved Player award, is out indefinitely after the team determined he needs a surgical procedure to repair cartilage in his right knee, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
Sources told ESPN.com that the scope and severity of the injury will not be known until Bledsoe is in a surgeon's care, but he is suspected to have suffered meniscus damage during his Dec. 30 return to Los Angeles to face the Clippers. Bledsoe was selected No. 18 overall in the 2010 draft by the Oklahoma City Thunder, who immediately traded him to L.A.
Bledsoe has missed the Suns' past four games with what the team said is a sprained knee.
The electric 24-year-old is averaging 18.0 points, 5.8 assists and 4.3 rebounds per game in his first stint as a full-time starter, forming a dangerous backcourt tandem with Goran Dragic that has sparked the Suns to a wholly unexpected 21-13 start.
...damn it.
Celtics part of three-team trade
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10297979/boston-celtics-trade-jordan-crawford-marshon-brooks-golden-state-warriors (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10297979/boston-celtics-trade-jordan-crawford-marshon-brooks-golden-state-warriors)
QuoteThe Celtics have traded guards Jordan Crawford and MarShon Brooks to the Golden State Warriors in a three-team deal that will send Toney Douglas to the Miami Heat and Joel Anthony and two draft picks to Boston.
Crawford became expendable with the expected return of Rajon Rondo, perhaps as early as Friday. Crawford was having a career season, averaging 13.7 points and 5.7 assists in 39 games.
The Celtics on Wednesday assigned Rondo to the Maine Red Claws of the D-League so he can take part in a workout. The 27-year-old All-Star point guard has yet to play this season as he works his way back from a torn ACL.
"Rajon is progressing terrifically in his rehab and this is the next step," Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said in a statement. "This is a brief assignment so that Rajon can participate in a workout this afternoon with the Red Claws and he will be called back up to the Celtics upon the conclusion of the workout."
The Celtics get the seldom-used 6-foot-9 Anthony and the two draft picks: a second-rounder and a protected first-round pick acquired initially from Philadelphia that could become a second-rounder.
"This was very, very, very, very hard," Heat president Pat Riley said of trading Anthony. "He was the last center that I coached, I remember in 2008. He helped us win two championships. He's part of the Heat family. We wish him nothing but the best."
Douglas was averaging 3.7 points in 24 games for Golden State.
"Toney Douglas has always been on our radar ever since the New York Knicks drafted him," Riley said. "He's always been on our mind a little bit. This will be a great opportunity for him. You don't know what's going to happen in the future, but we have six weeks to keep trying to figure that out."
The trade will save the Heat $6.4 million in luxury taxes and remaining salary this season and frees them on the $3.8 million they owed Anthony for next season. Depending on the Heat's salary situation for next season, the deal could end up saving the team more than $15 million in salary and luxury taxes for a player who played just 37 minutes this season.
The Heat are sending the Celtics a 76ers first-round pick that is lottery protected for the next two years, that will turn into two second-round picks if not conveyed. The Heat are also sending their own 2016 second-round pick to Boston.
"This really is about flexibility more than anything else. In today's game, with the punitive nature of a team that's trying to win and trying to sign players to win, it's changed the landscape in how you think," Riley said. "I mean, 10 years ago, if you wanted to waive a player, you'd waive a player. You have to give that some thought now, especially if your team is $20 million over the tax. But this was not a money move.
"This was not a money move. This is a flexibility move. We've been I think a pretty good team over the years trying to find players midseason to try to help you possibly down the stretch. We'll see how this goes."
The Celtics add to their pile of draft picks and give up a couple of guys who were not going to be re-signed after the season. The trickle-down effect means more playing time for newly acquired Jerryd Bayless and backup point guard Phil Pressey.
ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst, ESPNBoston.com's Chris Forsberg and ESPN.com's Tom Haberstroh contributed to this report.
Happy MLK Day! :D
Inside the NBA: MLK or Oliver Miller? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCsuO934-QU#)
Kobe has been selected to the all-star game. This is why I have always been against the fans voting for all star games in all sports.
Quote from: JustinP on January 23, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
Kobe has been selected to the all-star game. This is why I have always been against the fans voting for all star games in all sports.
Like I always say, the fans shouldn't vote. Charles Barkley agrees with us on this.
Chuck making fun of bb fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6_qEnXG5c#ws)
All Stars Voted In
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10341370/kevin-love-stephen-curry-earn-first-all-star-starting-spots (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10341370/kevin-love-stephen-curry-earn-first-all-star-starting-spots)
QuoteNEW YORK -- Stephen Curry, Kevin Love, Paul George and Kyrie Irving were voted NBA All-Stars Thursday, putting four first-time starters in the Feb. 16 game in New Orleans.
Kobe Bryant was elected by fans to his 16th All-Star Game, second-most in NBA history, but this one is shaping up as a kids' game.
Curry, perhaps the biggest snub last season, will join him in the Western Conference backcourt. Love passed Dwight Howard in the final days of voting and will start in the frontcourt along with Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant and the Clippers' Blake Griffin.
LeBron James was the leading vote-getter with 1.4 million and Miami teammate Dwyane Wade also was voted in Thursday. George, who has led Indiana to the league's best record, and New York's Carmelo Anthony are the other East forwards, and Irving will start at guard.
Bryant has been limited to just six games this season because of injuries and will be out until at least early next month, but remains one of the league's most popular players with fans. Only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, with 19, was selected to more All-Star Games.
But even Bryant could finish only second to Curry among West guards, a remarkable turnaround for the Golden State sharpshooter. He was the highest-scoring player not chosen last year, but moved past the Clippers' Chris Paul in the third returns of balloting, then passed Bryant in the final days to finish with more than a million votes and become the Warriors' first All-Star starter since Latrell Sprewell in 1995.
Love also made a late move to surge into the top three, finishing about 8,000 votes ahead of Houston center Howard to become Minnesota's first All-Star starter since Kevin Garnett in 2007.
"I was hoping for the best and preparing for the worst, and knowing the worst was I was going to still probably end up in the All-Star Game (as a coach's pick) and represent the West and the Wolves and the Twin Cities," Love said. "Right now, I'm very happy."
Kevin Love passed Dwight Howard in the final days of voting and will start his first All-Star Game in February.
The Wolves' public relations staff made a massive push to get out the vote, urging fans to use social media to stuff the box. It's a bit of vindication for small-market Minnesota to be successful in pushing its star into the game when he was competing against the likes of Griffin and Howard in much bigger cities with much bigger fan bases. Love received 661,246 votes.
"It means a lot. It doesn't go unnoticed," Love said. "The fans have been so great this year not only to me, but to the rest of the team. Everybody's had my back and had the team's back so much. It really means a lot."
Indiana hadn't had one since Jermaine O'Neal a year earlier, but now George will get to play for Pacers coach Frank Vogel, who has already clinched the East's coaching spot.
"It means a lot because that means the fans are really watching us as a team," George said. "For us to have the No. 1 record in the league, and playing at a high level, I think the fans are starting to follow us as a whole and I think that's the biggest thing with me being a starter."
The four first-time starters are all 25 or younger. Curry went to All-Star weekend as a kid when his father, Dell, competed in the 3-point contest, and now he'll finally get to play in the game.
"It's kind of just a surreal feeling," Curry said. "I saw Kobe come on the screen and you knew that next person on the screen was going to be me or I was going to get left off that list. Just when I saw my name it was a real emotional kind of experience and glad my wife and daughter were here to watch it with me."
The reserves will be announced next Thursday. Head coaches in each conference will vote for two guards, three frontcourt players and two players regardless of position.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
Its an exhibition game ... Still got the all star selection right o er what Cory did in the FBL
Melo is going ape shit
Yeah I think to be honest there needs to be some sort of better structure to this. If Noah misses out I am going to riot.
Quote from: Trumpers on January 25, 2014, 09:25:01 AM
Yeah I think to be honest there needs to be some sort of better structure to this. If Noah misses out I am going to riot.
I'm not a fan of Noah, but he definitely deserves to be in the allstar game this year.
Pelicans will play in the Smoothie King Center
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10410881/new-orleans-pelicans-play-smoothie-king-center (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10410881/new-orleans-pelicans-play-smoothie-king-center)
QuoteThe New Orleans Pelicans will announce on Thursday a 10-year naming rights deal that will result in their home being called the Smoothie King Center.
Financial terms of the deal with franchisor Smoothie King, which has 675 stores in the U.S., South Korea and Singapore, were not being disclosed. The company has about 75 employees working at its New Orleans headquarters.
"Our mission is to invest locally, regionally, nationally and internationally," said Tom O'Keefe, Smoothie King's president and COO. "This deal satisfies all those goals."
Smoothie King will get its logo all over the arena and have two kiosks that will serve smoothies at the venue's events. O'Keefe said the areas will not only serve as a retail experience, but also hope to lure new franchisees.
The entrance will feature two 20-foot high Smoothie King cups that will be in place in time for next weekend's NBA All-Star Game. The company's logo will also be on the roof of the arena.
O'Keefe said the deal took a long time to put together because the company wanted to be seen as athlete friendly. To pass muster, the company tested all of its ingredients to make sure it was compliant with what athletes in all leagues could ingest. O'Keefe said a few ingredients, which made up less than 1 percent of Smoothie King's $160 million in systemwide sales last year, were eliminated from the companies menu.
Although the state of Louisiana owns both this arena and the Superdome, whose naming rights were sold to Mercedes-Benz, the marketing teams of Pelicans and Saints owner Tom Benson consummated both deals.
So did anyone catch the ending of the Lakers/Cavs game last night?
Apparently, when Robert Sacre fouled out with three minutes to go in the fourth quarter, that put the Lakers at only four eligible players, since there were numerous injuries and other issues. Thing is, there's a rule in the NBA that a team must have five players on the floor at all times. So Sacre, despite having fouled out, remained in the game. Los Angeles was assessed a mandatory Technical Foul and was told that any additional fouls by Sacre would result in automatic Technical Fouls.
So in essence, a player who fouled out was able to stay in the game. I had never heard of that rule myself.
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Terrence Ross to defend dunk title
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10413823/paul-george-john-wall-damian-lillard-harrison-barnes-ben-mclemore-terrence-ross-compete-dunk-contest-all-star-weekend (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10413823/paul-george-john-wall-damian-lillard-harrison-barnes-ben-mclemore-terrence-ross-compete-dunk-contest-all-star-weekend)
QuoteThe six-man field for the dunk contest at All-Star Weekend in New Orleans will feature three big names from the actual All-Star Game, according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com that Indiana's Paul George, Washington's John Wall and Portland's Damian Lillard are confirmed entrants in the dunk field that will be officially announced later Thursday on TNT.
ESPN.com reported Wednesday night that George, Wall and Lillard were poised to join defending champion Terrence Ross of the Toronto Raptors in the competition.
Sources confirmed Thursday that Golden State's Harrison Barnes and Sacramento rookie Ben McLemore are the other two participants in the contest, which has met with lukewarm reviews the past several years, partly due to a lack of star power on display.
The All-Star Game is Sunday, Feb. 16, at New Orleans Arena.
The Dunk Contest died the day Vince Carter destroyed the field back in 2000. There hasn't been a contest worth watching since.
Quote from: JackHondo on February 06, 2014, 02:50:21 PM
So did anyone catch the ending of the Lakers/Cavs game last night?
Apparently, when Robert Sacre fouled out with three minutes to go in the fourth quarter, that put the Lakers at only four eligible players, since there were numerous injuries and other issues. Thing is, there's a rule in the NBA that a team must have five players on the floor at all times. So Sacre, despite having fouled out, remained in the game. Los Angeles was assessed a mandatory Technical Foul and was told that any additional fouls by Sacre would result in automatic Technical Fouls.
So in essence, a player who fouled out was able to stay in the game. I had never heard of that rule myself.
I saw it. I believed it happened with either the Mavs or Warriors when Don Nelson was coach if my memory serves me correctly.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on February 06, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
The Dunk Contest died the day Vince Carter destroyed the field back in 2000. There hasn't been a contest worth watching since.
This.
Quote from: JustinP on February 06, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
I saw it. I believed it happened with either the Mavs or Warriors when Don Nelson was coach if my memory serves me correctly.
Found this article about it.
http://nba.si.com/2014/02/05/lakers-technical-foul-rule-cavaliers-injuries-disqualifications/ (http://nba.si.com/2014/02/05/lakers-technical-foul-rule-cavaliers-injuries-disqualifications/)
QuoteThanks to a host of injuries and multiple disqualifications due to fouls, the Lakers triggered a rarely-used NBA rule for failing to have five eligible players during their 119-108 victory over the Cavaliers in Cleveland on Wednesday.
Let's unpack the carnage piece by piece.
Although L.A. has 14 players on its roster, coach Mike D'Antoni had only eight players available on Wednesday because Kobe Bryant (knee), Pau Gasol (groin), Jodie Meeks (ankle), Jordan Hill (neck) and Xavier Henry (knee) were all out injured, and Steve Nash (back/nerves) was being held out for rest because the Lakers were on the second night of a back-to-back. The Lakers did have a 15th man on their roster earlier this week, but the team opted to part ways with Manny Harris after his second 10-day contract expired.
D'Antoni's rotation kept dwindling from there, shrinking from eight men down to seven when Nick Young suffered a knee injury during the second quarter and did not return. The number of available Lakers was then reduced from seven to five when Chris Kaman fouled out early in the fourth quarter and Jordan Farmar suffered a leg cramp later in the period. Then, disaster struck. With no available reserve players, Robert Sacre picked up his sixth foul, which would usually trigger a disqualification, at the 3:31 mark of the fourth quarter.
Time for four-on-five, right? Not quite. NBA teams are not allowed to take the court with less than five players, so a little-known rule came into effect.
Rule No. 3, Section I of the league's rulebook states: "No team may be reduced to less than five players. If a player in the game receives his sixth personal foul and all substitutes have already been disqualified, said player shall remain in the game and shall be charged with a personal and team foul. A technical foul also shall be assessed against his team. All subsequent personal fouls, including offensive fouls, shall be treated similarly. All players who have six or more personal fouls and remain in the game shall be treated similarly."
The referees therefore allowed Sacre to remain in the game and correctly assessed a technical foul to the Lakers and awarded a free throw to the Cavaliers following his sixth foul. The second-year big man managed to play the rest of the game without picking up another foul so no further damage was done by L.A.'s lack of eligible bodies. The Lakers were leading 111-101 at the time of Sacre's final foul and were able to hang on for their first victory since Jan. 19, snapping a seven-game losing streak.
"I've never seen this situation before," Gasol wrote on Twitter. "Did anybody know about this rule!?"
At one point late in the third quarter, Kaman could be seen fully stretched out on the Lakers' otherwise empty bench.
Kamans couch pic.twitter.com/GeZ3GLxdnN
— Artem (@nbarocksstc) February 6, 2014
During the game's closing minutes, Nash briefly looked like he would enter the game, despite the plan to sit him out. Instead, D'Antoni stayed the course by continuing to play Sacre.
"It was interesting to say the least," D'Antoni said of his late-game predicament, according to Lakers.com.
Making the Lakers' victory all the more remarkable? Steve Blake registered a triple-double (11 points on 2-for-7 shooting, 10 rebounds and 15 assists) even though he was suffering from a ruptured ear drum during L.A.'s loss to Minnesota on Tuesday.
Ryan Kelly scored a career-high 26 points (on 8-for-16 shooting) and added six rebounds in 42 minutes for the Lakers, who led by as many as 29 points before their second half war of attrition. Wesley Johnson added 20 points (on 8-for-15 shooting) and nine rebounds.
C.J. Miles led the Cavaliers with a game-high 27 points (on 7-for-15 shooting), three rebounds and three assists. Anderson Varejao chipped in 15 points (on 7-for-16 shooting), 13 rebounds and five assists in a losing effort. Cleveland finished the game with starters Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and Luol Deng on the bench.
L.A. improved to 17-32 with the win and will have one day off before they visit Philadelphia to play the Sixers on Friday. Cleveland dropped to 16-33 with the loss.
Bottom image via @NBArocksstc
It's NBA All Star Weekend and one of my favorite events the NBA Slam Dunk Contest is happening in less than 24 hours so I thought I'd share some videos of my favorite dunk contest moments.
Vince Carter Slam Dunk Contest
Vince Carter Slam Dunk Contest 2000 (Every Dunk) - GQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImAMVqA6mug#ws)
Blake Griffin Slam Dunk Contest
Blake Griffin in the Slam Dunk Contest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5744oZOBDmk#ws)
1988 Slam Dunk Contest - Michael Jordan vs. Dominique Wilkins
NBA Slam Dunk Contest 1988. Michael Jordan vs. Dominique Wilkins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EREr6NEuEII#ws)
Kobe Bryant Slam Dunk Contest
Kobe Bryant - 1997 NBA Slam Dunk Contest (Champion) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVibdD3UqA#)
Spud Webb Slam Dunk Contest
Spud Webb - 1986 NBA Slam Dunk Contest (Champion) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4zWLagc-14#)
Michael Jordan 1987 Slam Dunk Contest
Michael Jordan | All Dunks in ''1987 Dunk Contest'' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moqsf7cLAR0#ws)
2003 Slam Dunk Contest - Richardson vs. Mason
NBA Slam Dunk Contest 2003 Mason Vs Richardson (Every Dunk) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2U8HM9yNY#)
1984 NBA Slam Dunk Contest - first one in the NBA
1984 NBA Slam Dunk Competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6E6gSPbkt8#)
Found this video on Youtube last night. This is one of the wildest NBA brawls I've ever seen. It's from a 1993 game between the Knicks and the Suns in Phoenix.
Knicks v Suns 1993 Doc v KJ Fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTYQSYzf5Mk#)
do you guys think the Chicago Bulls could still make the playoffs out of the east?
They're on pace to make it as of now. But then again so are the Bobcats who are the 8th seed currently out East...
Ranking the 25 Greatest Dunks in Recent NBA Dunk Contest History
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1957002-ranking-the-25-greatest-dunks-in-recent-nba-dunk-contest-history?utm_source=facebookcom&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1957002-ranking-the-25-greatest-dunks-in-recent-nba-dunk-contest-history?utm_source=facebookcom&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national)
QuoteWhen six dunkers take the stage in New Orleans, they'll be competing for more than the team competition and the individual award that will be presented at the end of the contest on Saturday, Feb. 15.
Paul George, John Wall, Damian Lillard, Terrence Ross, Harrison Barnes and Ben McLemore will try to throw down slam dunks that leave a lasting memory. They'll try to complete plays that will be replayed on YouTube for years.
Decades even.
Throughout recent history—which we're defining as 1994 through the present—many memorable dunks have been completed during the Slam Dunk Contest. Vince Carter, Jason Richardson, Dwight Howard and plenty of other players have filled our memories with remarkable feats of athleticism.
Will any of the six competitors move into these rankings—which feature the 25 greatest slams in recent history—after the 2014 festivities?
That remains to be seen, as these are all some pretty epic throwdowns. Here's hoping at least one of the six completes a dunk for the ages.
Shitty dunk contest.
Wall's dunk over the mascot was pretty legit, and George's would have been better if he made it the first time.
This used to be so much cooler back in the day, and I mean the 80s when 'Nique got robbed against Jordan in 88...
Just let them dunk. That's all they had to do and they didn't do that right.
The new format was terrible!
Quote from: JustinP on February 15, 2014, 11:59:02 PM
The new format was terrible!
Agreed. They somehow managed to ruin the dunk contest.
Quote from: Gravedigger on February 15, 2014, 11:54:27 PM
Wall's dunk over the mascot was pretty legit, and George's would have been better if he made it the first time.
This used to be so much cooler back in the day, and I mean the 80s when 'Nique got robbed against Jordan in 88...
2008 - 2013"Who are these no names? We want stars!" Everyone said while the "no names" do some pretty good dunks
2014 "Man these stars are trash! They don't do anything cool"
THEY'RE STARS! They have more to do than practice dunks. You know why this sucked? Because people hyped the shit out of it more than it had to do with the format (which needs some tweaking). Lillard disappointed me, Barnes was awful.
Lebron James need to stop being a pussy ass bitch and do the damn dunk contest, that would bring so much ratings to the dunk contest just to see what he could do
Quote from: MattWard on February 16, 2014, 11:37:27 AM
Lebron James need to stop being a pussy ass bitch and do the damn dunk contest, that would bring so much ratings to the dunk contest just to see what he could do
And when he doesn't do anything outstanding like everyone thinks he would do, they'll say he's a terrible dunker and they wanted all that time to see that and pissed off anyways. If this proved year proved anything names =/= better dunk contest.
A.k.a The Blake Griffin dunk contest ...
It wasnt ACTUALLY over the car ... pffft
Knicks angling to land point guard
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0211/ny_a_shumpert_b2_300x200.jpg)
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10483839/new-york-knicks-trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-denver-nuggets (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10483839/new-york-knicks-trade-talks-los-angeles-clippers-denver-nuggets)
QuoteThe New York Knicks were seriously discussing two trades Wednesday night aimed at shoring up their backcourt and adding some depth in advance of this week's NBA trade deadline.
Sources told ESPN.com that New York's talks with the Los Angeles Clippers reported earlier Wednesday have been tweaked slightly. The Knicks' Iman Shumpert and the Clippers' Darren Collison remain the principals in the proposed trade, but sources said that the latest incarnation of the deal would send Matt Barnes to Madison Square Garden along with Collison in exchange for Shumpert and out-of-favor guard Raymond Felton.
New York's attempts to upgrade at point guard may mean Iman Shumpert's days there are numbered.
Barnes' inclusion in the trade was conceived to replace Clippers rookie Reggie Bullock, with sources saying Los Angeles -- while high on Shumpert's athleticism and defensive potential -- is very reluctant to both absorb Felton's contract while also parting with Bullock.
"There's a lot of stuff that goes on that is a distraction for us but our job is to lock in and play basketball," Barnes said Tuesday on being involved in trade talks. "We can't let anything outside be a distraction."
In a separate deal, sources said, New York is in talks to trade little-used point guard Beno Udrih -- who has been hoping for a change of scenery -- to Denver for swingman Jordan Hamilton. That move would be an offshoot of the Knicks' long-running but ultimately unsuccessful attempt to acquire Kenneth Faried from the Nuggets; New York has been offering the combination of Shumpert and Udrih for Faried and Hamilton for months.
The leaguewide trade deadline is Thursday at 3 p.m. ET. As ESPN.com reported Monday, New York has made it widely known that it badly wants to upgrade its options at point guard before the trade buzzer sounds.
New York's focus shifted to Collison this week, sources said, when the Atlanta Hawks balked at taking back Felton's deal as part of the Knicks' pursuit of Hawks point guard Jeff Teague.
ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported that the Knicks and Clippers have been talking since Friday. Clippers forward Jared Dudley has also been discussed in talks, but his inclusion in a deal is not necessary to make a trade work financially.
Bullock is the Clippers' first-round draft pick from last June and has been asked to play a larger role with starting guard J.J. Redick lost indefinitely to a back injury. Adding Shumpert, though, would help in that department, since Shumpert would step into Redick's starting role and allow Sixth Man of the Year candidate Jamal Crawford to go back to the bench.
The Knicks, meanwhile, are hesitant to bring in a player who is on the books beyond the 2014-15 season, given their hope to have enough cap space available for the 2015 offseason to go after the top players on the market in support of Carmelo Anthony. Rajon Rondo, Kevin Love and LaMarcus Aldridge are expected to headline a group of free agents that summer.
But it appears that the Knicks are coming to terms with the contracts of Felton and Barnes canceling each other out. A swap of Shumpert and Felton for Collison and Bullock, furthermore, does not quite work under NBA salary-cap rules.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963977-toronto-raptors-reportedly-interested-in-dealing-for-rajon-rondo (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963977-toronto-raptors-reportedly-interested-in-dealing-for-rajon-rondo)
Raps trying to grab Rondo
Quote from: Cory on February 19, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963977-toronto-raptors-reportedly-interested-in-dealing-for-rajon-rondo (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1963977-toronto-raptors-reportedly-interested-in-dealing-for-rajon-rondo)
Raps trying to grab Rondo
So are the Rockets...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10484540/houston-rockets-eyes-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10484540/houston-rockets-eyes-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics)
QuoteThe Rockets want to acquire Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo, according to sources familiar with Houston's thinking.
Yet sources told ESPN.com that talks between the teams have not progressed to a serious stage because the sides can't agree on the framework of a trade.
One main stumbling block, sources said, is Boston's desire to acquire blossoming Houston swingman Chandler Parsons in a potential Rondo deal. Sources say the Rockets have informed the Celtics that they are not prepared to surrender Parsons as part of a Rondo package.
The Celtics have consistently denied that Rondo will be dealt before Thursday's 3 p.m. ET deadline. There have been strong indications all season that Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck wants to keep Rondo in Boston to give the former All-Star point guard, who is still in the early stages of his recovery from a torn ACL, ample time to form a partnership with first-year coach Brad Stevens.
Zach Lowe discusses the trade deadline, if the Cavs are interested in moving Luol Deng in light of their five-game win streak, Rajon Rondo's potential destination, if there are any potential buyouts on the horizon and more.
But the Rockets have made a trade at every deadline during general manager Daryl Morey's tenure running their front office and are known to covet Rondo deeply.
Houston also possesses draft picks to deal and a cache of young players beyond Parsons -- such as disgruntled (and very available) big man Omer Asik along with the likes of Patrick Beverley, Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas -- to try to tempt the Celtics.
The close relationship between Morey and Boston counterpart Danny Ainge -- Morey spent time in the Celtics' front office under Ainge -- makes it easy for the teams to engage in trade discussions.
But if the Rockets' position on Parsons is firm, it would be up to Boston to decide to go forward with Rondo (who can become an unrestricted free agent in July 2015), focus on other teams or try to construct an alternative deal with the Rockets.
Rondo's already said he wouldn't resign in Toronto. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with a team like NY in some kind of crazy three-team trade.
I've heard some ridiculous rumors floating around. I saw one that had Jeremy Lin going back to New York, which would essentially be the only trade they could make that might make them worse at PG. I'm all about some Linsanity, I think he's a heckuva guy, but please, let the hysteria die!
I like Pau to Phoenix if they can swing it. The Suns probably aren't going to make a whole lot of noise this season but Gasol gives them some championship experience.
Lakers trade Steve Blake to the Warriors
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10486289/steve-blake-los-angeles-lakers-traded-golden-state-warriors-mixed-emotions (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10486289/steve-blake-los-angeles-lakers-traded-golden-state-warriors-mixed-emotions)
QuoteLakers guard Steve Blake has been traded to the Golden State Warriors, he told reporters as he left the team's Los Angeles facility in street clothes Wednesday night.
The Lakers will get reserve shooting guards Kent Bazemore and MarShon Brooks from the Warriors, sources told ESPN.com.
"Real mixed emotions," Blake said. "The hardest thing really is my family. Now I'm going to have to spend four months probably away from them."
What Every NBA Team Should Do at 2014 Trade Deadline
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1962424-what-every-nba-team-should-do-at-2014-trade-deadline (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1962424-what-every-nba-team-should-do-at-2014-trade-deadline)
QuoteThe 2013-14 NBA season has been filled with trade rumors since before the year began, and with the Feb. 20 deadline on the horizon, it's time for general managers to focus on making the best move for their respective organizations.
For some franchises, the best move might be no move at all. For others, clearing house makes more sense, as both buyers and sellers will be active leading up to the deadline.
Whether a team is looking for cap relief, a quick fix or better positioning for the future, there's something out there for everyone. The trick is finding the right player who matches what teams are looking for—not to mention what they're willing to give up.
I think that's what Toronto will do. There are still some rumous out there about trading Lowry, but I think their best course is to stick. Forget Rondo, because I don't know if Rondo this year would be that much better then Lowry has been. Sure, they'd have him for 2014-2015 (I believe) but then they're back to square one.
Sources: Spencer Hawes to Cavs
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10488407/philadelphia-76ers-trade-spencer-hawes-cleveland-cavaliers (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10488407/philadelphia-76ers-trade-spencer-hawes-cleveland-cavaliers)
QuoteIn an effort to add depth to their front line as they chase a playoff spot, the Cleveland Cavaliers have traded for Philadelphia 76ers center Spencer Hawes, sources told ESPN.com, confirming multiple reports.
The 76ers have been trading for draft picks and prospects since last summer as part of a long-term rebuilding project, and this deal fits that mold. The Cavs sent the 76ers two second-round draft picks and backup forward Earl Clark to execute the deal.
Hawes, who is in the final year of a contract that pays him $6.6 million this season, averaged 13.0 points and 8.5 rebounds in 53 starts for the 76ers this season. The Cavs, who are three games out of the last playoff spot in the Eastern Conference after a six-game win streak, had been in talks to get another center for several days.
Anderson Varejao has been out with a back injury and received a cortisone shot Wednesday to help deal with the issue. Clark, whose $4.25 million contract next season is not guaranteed, averaged 5.2 points and 2.8 rebounds in 45 games and shot 38 percent from the field for the Cavs, who signed him as a free agent in the offseason.
In January, the Cavs dealt a first-round pick and two second-rounders to acquire forward Luol Deng from the Chicago Bulls. The team is spending many of the extra picks it acquired over the past three years to attempt to upgrade and end a three-year playoff drought.
BREAKING NEWS: NBA IS NOT AS FUN TO WATCH AS IT USE TO BE
Watching the entire All-Star weekend in a couple of sittings confirmed this to me. Bring back the 90s when the NBA was cool.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on February 20, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
BREAKING NEWS: NBA IS NOT AS FUN TO WATCH AS IT USE TO BE
Watching the entire All-Star weekend in a couple of sittings confirmed this to me. Bring back the 90s when the NBA was cool.
QFT
I've gradually over the years stopped watching it.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on February 20, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
BREAKING NEWS: NBA IS NOT AS FUN TO WATCH AS IT USE TO BE
Watching the entire All-Star weekend in a couple of sittings confirmed this to me. Bring back the 90s when the NBA was cool.
Agreed. The only thing keeping my interest at this point is the rise of the Clippers since they've rarely been good since I've been a fan, lol.
Sources: Wizards land Andre Miller
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10489628/washington-wizards-acquire-andre-miller-three-team-trade (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10489628/washington-wizards-acquire-andre-miller-three-team-trade)
QuoteThe Washington Wizards, Denver Nuggets and Philadelphia 76ers completed a three-team trade Thursday that will send disgruntled point guard Andre Miller to the Wizards, sources told ESPN.
The Wizards acquired veteran point guard Andre Miller as part of a three-team trade, sources said.
The Wizards, who are looking to solidify their playoff position, will send big man Jan Vesely to the Nuggets and point guard Eric Maynor to the 76ers, who also will acquire two second-round draft picks.
Miller hasn't played since he was suspended by the Nuggets on Jan. 2 after an altercation with coach Brian Shaw. He's been away from the team and on the trade block since.
The Wizards, who have come on strong after a slow start to the season, have been looking for a veteran backup to John Wall. Miller is earning $5 million this season, and his $4.6 million contract for next year is guaranteed for just $2 million. The 16-year veteran averaged 5.9 points and 3.3 assists in 30 games for the Nuggets.
Washington (26-28) is fifth in the Eastern Conference, 2½ games out of the fourth spot.
Vesely, the No. 6 pick in the 2011 draft, has mostly been a disappointment and averaged just three points and three rebounds in 33 games for the Wizards. He will be a free agent at the end of the season.
Maynor, who was signed as a free agent in the offseason by the Wizards, has fallen out of the rotation. He has a player option for $2.1 million next season that the 76ers will assume
Sources: Gary Neal dealt to Bobcats
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10489607/charlotte-bobcats-land-gary-neal-four-player-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10489607/charlotte-bobcats-land-gary-neal-four-player-deal)
QuoteThe Charlotte Bobcats have acquired two guards from the Milwaukee Bucks to fortify their playoff drive.
NBA teams were active before on Thursday's trade deadline. Kevin Pelton examines the deals and offers up his grades. Grades
ESPN has learned that the Bobcats have agreed to take on point guard Luke Ridnour in addition to top trade target Gary Neal. They also persuaded the Bucks to absorb the salary of Ramon Sessions.
The final form of the deal, sources said, will send Neal and Ridnour to Charlotte for Sessions and Jeff Adrien.
The Bobcats (who at 25-30 are in eighth place in the Eastern Conference) have been chasing the disgruntled Neal for some time, but Milwaukee balked at a pure Neal-for-Sessions swap because Sessions is making $5 million this season, compared to Neal's $3.25 million. Adding Ridnour to the trade puts the financial onus back on Charlotte.
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Sources: Nuggets get Aaron Brooks
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10490434/houston-rockets-trade-aaron-brooks-denver-nuggets-jordan-hamilton (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10490434/houston-rockets-trade-aaron-brooks-denver-nuggets-jordan-hamilton)
QuoteThe Houston Rockets traded point guard Aaron Brooks to the Denver Nuggets for forward Jordan Hamilton in a swap of backups, sources told ESPN.com.
NBA teams were active before on Thursday's trade deadline. Kevin Pelton examines the deals and offers up his grades. Grades
Because of his contract status Brooks had to approve the trade but he will get increased playing time with the Nuggets as he heads into free agency. Brooks, who had fallen behind Patrick Beverley and Jeremy Lin in the Rockets' rotation, averaged 7.0 points and 1.9 assists in 43 games for Houston.
Hamilton, a versatile wing scorer, was involved in trade talks with several teams, including the New York Knicks. He averaged 6.8 points and 3.4 rebounds in 38 games for the Nuggets. The 2011 first-round pick will be a free agent at the end of the season.
It was the seventh consecutive year the Rockets and general manager Daryl Morey have made a deal on trade deadline day.
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Heat free up roster spot with trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10488913/miami-heat-trade-roger-mason-jr-cash-sacramento-kings (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10488913/miami-heat-trade-roger-mason-jr-cash-sacramento-kings)
QuoteThe Miami Heat opened a roster spot Thursday by trading backup guard Roger Mason Jr. and cash to the Sacramento Kings for a highly protected second-round draft pick.
NBA teams were active before on Thursday's trade deadline. Kevin Pelton examines the deals and offers up his grades. Grades
The Heat announced the deal about two hours prior to Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trade deadline.
Mason will be waived by the Kings and become a free agent, and the pick the Kings are trading to the Heat likely will never convey.
The Heat were interested in having a roster spot open so they can add a free agent that may become available in the next week. They are looking for a veteran wing player.
Mason averaged 3.0 points in 25 games for the Heat this season.
Sources: Evan Turner dealt to Pacers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10491189/indiana-pacers-trade-danny-granger-philadelphia-76ers-evan-turner-lavoy-allen (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10491189/indiana-pacers-trade-danny-granger-philadelphia-76ers-evan-turner-lavoy-allen)
QuoteThe Indiana Pacers made the biggest move of NBA trade deadline day by shipping their longest-tenured player, forward Danny Granger, in a package to the Philadelphia 76ers that landed them forward Evan Turner, sources told ESPN.com Thursday.
As part of the deal, the Pacers sent a 2015 second-round pick to Philadelphia and also received center Lavoy Allen. It was part of a roster-gutting day for the 76ers, who traded starting center Spencer Hawes in a separate deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Yahoo! Sports earlier reported the Granger-Turner deal.
The Pacers achieved several things with the move, but the biggest is adding the multidimensional Turner, who likely will be an offensive boost off the bench. The trade also lowers the Pacers' payroll by several million dollars.
Turner was averaging a career-high 17.4 points, 6.0 rebounds and 3.7 assists for the struggling 76ers. He has been a bit of a volume scorer, however, shooting just 43 percent overall and 29 percent on 3-pointers. He still should be an upgrade for the Pacers, who currently rank 19th in offensive efficiency.
Turner will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, and the Sixers, who did not plan to re-sign him, were dangling him for weeks and hoping to land a first-round pick. By waiting until the very end of the trade window, the Pacers were able to swoop in and make the deal for Granger's expiring $13 million contract and the lesser draft pick.
Granger has played his entire nine-year career in Indiana and made the All-Star team in 2009. But he's been hampered by knee and leg injuries the past two seasons, causing him to miss more than 100 games. He has struggled after returning from injury this season, averaging just 8.3 points and shooting 36 percent from the field in 29 games.
Granger was a fixture in the locker room and mentored many of the team's young players, especially young star Paul George.
The Pacers, though, have lost three of their past five games and their offense has been inconsistent. Their lead over the Miami Heat for the top spot in the Eastern Conference is down to just one game entering Thursday night.
Allen was mostly a backup center for the 76ers, averaging 5.2 points and 5.4 rebounds in 51 games, two of them starts.
The 76ers made three trades on Thursday, sending out starters Hawes and Turner along with Allen and getting back Earl Clark and Henry Sims from the Cavs, Byron Mullens from the Los Angeles Clippers and Granger, along with a total of five second-round draft picks.
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Sources: Antawn Jamison to Hawks
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10490556/atlanta-hawks-trade-veteran-antawn-jamison (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10490556/atlanta-hawks-trade-veteran-antawn-jamison)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Clippers have traded veteran forward Antawn Jamison to the Atlanta Hawks, sources told ESPN.com.
The Hawks, who are ravaged by injuries and are on a seven-game losing streak, made the deal using a disabled player exception they got when they lost Al Horford for the season because of a shoulder injury.
Jamison is likely to work out a buyout with the Hawks, a source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne. The Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs both expressed interest in the veteran forward over the summer as he looked for a contender to chase a first NBA title with. He's also held in high regard by his former team, the Washington Wizards.
The move will save the Clippers more than $2 million in salary and luxury-tax savings and open a roster spot.
Jamison, a 15-year veteran, averaged 3.8 points and 2.5 rebounds for the Clippers this season.
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Source: Spurs trade for Austin Daye
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10491090/san-antonio-spurs-trade-nando-de-colo-austin-daye-toronto-raptors (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10491090/san-antonio-spurs-trade-nando-de-colo-austin-daye-toronto-raptors)
QuoteThe San Antonio Spurs have traded guard Nando de Colo to the Toronto Raptors for forward Austin Daye, a source confirmed to ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.
De Colo, 26, has played in 26 games this season, averaging 4.3 points and 1.7 rebounds.
The 6-foot-11 Daye, the No. 15 pick in 2009 out of Gonzaga, has only played in eight games for Toronto this season.
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Sources: 76ers land Byron Mullens
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10491040/los-angeles-clippers-trade-byron-mullens-philadelphia-76ers (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10491040/los-angeles-clippers-trade-byron-mullens-philadelphia-76ers)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Clippers traded center Byron Mullens to the Philadelphia 76ers before Thursday's trade deadline, sources told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne.
The Clippers received a conditional future second-round pick in return.
The 7-foot Mullens has averaged just 2.5 points and 1.2 rebounds in 27 games this season with the Clippers.
Mullens, 25, averaged career highs in points (10.6) and rebounds (6.4) last season with the Charlotte Bobcats.
LeBron James leads win over Thunder with 33, leaves bloodied
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400489686 (http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400489686)
QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY -- LeBron James sat silently in front of his locker with a towel draped over his head, not wanting to reveal the effects of a hit to his nose that prematurely ended his night.
His Miami Heat teammates finished off a 103-81 win over the Oklahoma City Thunder without him on Thursday night.
Miami's star forward went down with 5:50 remaining after he was struck by Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka on a drive to the basket. James finished the dunk, but he was bloodied and he left the court with a towel over his face.
"I'm like everybody else, you're used to seeing him like Superman, get up and sprint back even after tough hits and tough falls," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "So we knew something was up."
Miami's star forward had landed the hardest blow long before that. He scored 16 of his 33 points in the first quarter to put the Thunder in a bind, and the Heat rolled to a lopsided win.
James passed a concussion test, but some damage was done.
"He has a swollen nose right now. It's bleeding," Spoelstra said. "We'll evaluate him when we get back to Miami, but it's sore."
The Thunder were the ones shaken up after James made his first five shots and scored 12 points in the first 4:11.
"It was flawless," Wade said. "He was aggressive defensively, he was able to play passing lanes and be who he is. That was a great start on the road by our leader. It was something that we needed."
Wade had 24 points and 10 assists, and Chris Bosh added 24 points for Miami, which won its fourth straight and avenged an earlier loss to Oklahoma City. It was a good step for the Heat, who are trying to catch Indiana for the top record in the Eastern Conference.
"You can see the resolve," Wade said. "You can see the chemistry. You can see a team that's gearing up for the second half of the season."
Kevin Durant scored 28 points for Oklahoma City, which lost at home for the first time since Jan. 5.
Durant has been the popular favorite to win the NBA MVP award, but Wade said James is still in the hunt.
"It's not decided," Wade said. "I don't think that was a message. That was LeBron James being LeBron James. He loves the matchup, just like KD loves the matchup. The MVP is long, long from over."
Russell Westbrook, who had missed the previous 27 games after having surgery on his right knee, started and scored 16 points in 24 minutes. He made 4 of 12 shots.
"I'm just going to keep getting him better, and as the season goes along, as he gets more comfortable in game shape, we're going to see a better Russell every night," Thunder coach Scott Brooks said.
The Thunder overcame an early 18-point deficit on Jan. 29 to roll past the Heat 112-95 in Miami, and the home fans hoped for a regular-season sweep against the team that beat Oklahoma City in the 2012 finals.
Instead, they saw a rare inefficient game from the Thunder.
"When you don't have good rhythm, normally the three-ball can get you back into the game," Brooks said. "We didn't have shot makers tonight. We've had them for a while now. We didn't have them tonight."
The crowd erupted as Westbrook was introduced as a starter. His first minute of action was furious and had the fans on their feet. His first basket was a two-handed, fast-break dunk 37 seconds into the game, and he got a steal 17 seconds later.
The excitement quickly evaporated. James scored 10 points in the first 3:11 and Miami made 13 of its first 14 shots to take a 28-13 lead. The Heat were ahead 34-17 at the end of the first quarter.
They extended their lead to 19 points in the second quarter before the Thunder rallied behind Westbrook. He scored nine points in the final 1:55 of the first half, including a dunk in the closing seconds, to trim Miami's lead to 54-47 at the break.
Miami took control early in the third quarter. James scored six points during a 10-0 run that helped the Heat take a 64-49 lead. The advantage grew to 75-53 on a 3-pointer by James with just over five minutes left in the frame.
Durant scored seven points in the final 2:46 of the quarter to trim Miami's edge to 76-65 heading into the fourth.
Miami reasserted itself in the opening minutes of the final period. Bosh hit a 3-pointer to bump the Heat's lead to 19 with just under 10 minutes to go.
The Heat won for the fifth time during their six-game road trip. Miami beat the Los Angeles Clippers, Phoenix, Golden State and Dallas before closing with a win against the team with the league's best record.
"It's good to finish it this way," Spoelstra said.
Game notes
Thunder G Reggie Jackson, who started while Westbrook was out, entered the game in the first quarter. ... Durant scored just two points on 1-for-5 shooting in the first quarter. ... Miami shot 76 percent in the first quarter but made just 7 of 17 shots in the second and was outscored 30-20. ... Oklahoma State's Kendrick Perkins left the game in the third quarter with a left groin strain and didn't return.
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LeBron James bloodied, leaves win
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QuoteLeBron James left the Miami Heat's 103-81 win Thursday night at Oklahoma City in the fourth quarter after he was struck by Thunder power forward Serge Ibaka on a drive to the basket, leaving him face-down on the court, bleeding from the face.
James, who had 33 points before his exit, drove to the basket with under six minutes to play and, after being caught in the face by Ibaka's wrist as he went up for a dunk -- which he finished -- fell to the floor with a steady stream of blood pouring from his nose.
LeBron James was struck in the face by Serge Ibaka in the fourth quarter as he went up for a dunk -- which he finished -- before falling to the floor with a steady stream of blood pouring from his nose.
James, who the Heat said would not speak to the media after the game, passed a concussion test and was set to have an X-ray on his injured nose, according to the Turner Sports broadcast.
He sat in his locker with a white towel covering his entire head and face until most of the media left the room, when he still appeared to be woozy.
Heat coach Erik Spoelstra, talking to reporters after the game, said James' nose was sore and would be evaluated when the team returns to Miami. There was no indication James has a serious injury, the coach said.
"He got hit pretty good down there," Spoelstra said.
Heat guard Dwyane Wade, in a postgame interview with TNT, said he didn't think James would be out long.
"Biggest thing he said was, 'Is it broke?' " Wade said. "But hopefully it's not and he'll be back."
James, averaging 26.8 points for the second-place Heat, has scored 30 or more points in seven of his past 10 games, including a season-high 42 in Miami's last game Tuesday, a 117-106 win over Dallas.
Brian Shaw torches players after blowout to Bulls
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QuoteThe Nuggets' new front office came in with a handicap. New GM Tim Connelly didn't get settled until really August, his new coach Brian Shaw came in late as well. And the roster was tailor fit to George Karl's run and gun style, which Shaw has repeatedly denigrated in interviews since the season began, calling it "cute" at one point. The short-term additions like Nate Robinson and J.J. Hickson were stop gaps, low-risk investments with the hope of payoff.
Then there are the injuries. Danilo Gallinari, out for the season. JaVale McGee, out for the season. Nate Robinson, out for the season. Ty Lawson, missed significant time.
Then there's the Andre Miller situation, which was the first indication that there was conflict between the roster and Shaw. After Miller's blow up and subsequent suspension (which was immediately lifted), the Nuggets had a three-hour series of individual meetings between the players and Shaw. Things improved, the team went on a run.
Things have fallen apart again.
And in the last week, Shaw's comments have gone from frustrated to full-on blister after the Nuggets' beatdown by the Bulls Friday night. First, here are Shaw's comments from earlier this week:
"There's a part of me that's like 'People out there think that we're incompetent, that we're not teaching them the right things to do.' We are," Shaw said. "Executing them is a whole another thing. That's why you have to have film study and you have to show the guys and make the teaching points and hopefully at some point you stop making the same mistakes over and over again. We show them positive examples of when we do it right it usually ends up in a good result, and when we don't do it right or we go off on our own and they do what they want to do it usually ends up in a poor result."
"That's the difference between the teams who win those types of games. They consistently follow their assignments and their instructions and they execute it. When we're inconsistent in our execution of it, we're going to be inconsistent in terms of winning games."
How does Shaw go about fixing it? By impacting playing time, which he can do to a large extent given the depth on the basketball team.
"When we show them film and we go over and come out on the floor and walk through it, you want that to kind of be the lesson – you go burned the last time you didn't blitz a screen this way or didn't help the helper and it cost us, so let's not do it again," Shaw said. "You just have to keep on reinforcing it, keep on showing it. It's still relatively early in the season; hopefully you get better and better at it as the season goes on. But that's where, as a coach, if it's the same guys making the same mistakes over and over again...when I talk about shuffling some things around and changing things up, that's where you get to that point. When a guy isn't getting it, when he's continuing to make the same mistakes over and over again."
via Nuggets coach Brian Shaw frustrated at some players lack of focus.
So that seems a little tough, but that's not... oh, no. Ohhhhh no. From the Denver Post, which just let Shaw's comments speak for themselves:
"As a coach and coaching staff, it's our job to try to find five players that want to go out and play and want to have some pride and not decide night-to-night that 'I'm going to play this game and I'm not going to play this game.' I felt like tonight we had some guys that just decided they weren't going to play tonight, they weren't going to put forth any effort to try to get the job done. It's unfortunate. It's a nationally televised game that we're professionals and as a staff we have to beg guys to give effort when they play.
"I told our team I wish paychecks were predicated on night-to-night performance. So if you play like a star on a given night then you get paid like a star. If you play like an uninspired player, then either you don't get paid or you get paid like an uninspired player. And you can't just pick and choose when you want. Last night we played Milwaukee, who is obviously down players, they have injuries, they've been struggling all season long and we act like the big bad wolf against Milwaukee. And then we come in tonight...and we tuck our tails and we hide basically. We don't defend at all, from the onset of the game until the end. And thus another 30-point loss for us on the road.
Asked how he can get the message through to his players, Shaw said "I finished most of the fourth quarter with our two new players, Vesely and Aaron Brooks, with our young guys. So they're going to be hungry, they're going to want to play. They're going to go out and make a lot of mistakes. But if they want to play, and the other guys don't want to play, then I'm going to play the guys who want to put forth the effort and want to play like professionals and go out and earn their paychecks."
via Fuming Nuggets coach Brian Shaw takes team to task after loss.
"We come in tonight... and we tuck our tails and we hide basically."
Ouch.
This situation has gotten bad in a hurry. It's difficult to argue that a team losing this consistently by such a margin isn't at some sort of breaking point with its coach. Even teams with injuries can compete night by night with coaching and chemsitry. And blistering the players like this in the media can have one of two reactions. It'll either get the players to respond the way Shaw needs to or further alienate them from him.
Either way, after a 57-win season last year, it's incredible how different the Nuggets look now.
Nets sign Jason Collins
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QuoteJason Collins became the first openly gay athlete in North America's four major professional sports Sunday, signing a 10-day contract with the Brooklyn Nets.
He is expected to play against the Los Angeles Lakers on Sunday evening at Staples Center, sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.
"The decision to sign Jason was a basketball decision," Nets general manager Billy King said in a statement. " We needed to increase our depth inside, and with his experience and size, we felt he was the right choice for a 10-day contract."
The Nets tweeted out a picture of Collins signing his contract.
The Nets moved quickly to make the historic signing of the 35-year-old free agent center to have another big body available against the Lakers. Brooklyn had been contemplating signing Collins for the past week and the need for Collins became greater after the Nets dealt rebounding specialist Reggie Evans to the Sacramento Kings last week.
ESPN.com reported that the Nets quietly auditioned Collins last week in Los Angeles, paving the way from him to rejoin the franchise he spent his first six-plus seasons in the league.
The Nets were in the running to land Glen Davis but Davis opted to sign with the Los Angeles Clippers and informed teams of his decision. Davis is set to officially become an unrestricted free agent Sunday at 5 p.m. ET if, as expected, he is not claimed off waivers by another team.
Collins hasn't played in an NBA game since April 2013 with the Washington Wizards. He's been working out on his own for months in the L.A. area after failing to earn an invite to training camp from any of the league's 30 teams in the wake of revealing his sexual orientation to Sports Illustrated in April of last year.
The Nets are an organization filled with Collins supporters and experienced players less likely to be fazed by the likely media blitz that the signing will inevitably spark. Over the last couple of days, several Nets players have publicly voiced their support for signing Collins.
Collins is reunited with Nets coach Jason Kidd, who played with the defensive-minded big man in New Jersey from 2001-08, making two trips together to the NBA Finals. Collins also played with Nets guard Joe Johnson for three seasons in Atlanta and spent half of the 2012-13 season in Boston alongside Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett before being traded to the Washington Wizards. Collins also is friends with injured Nets center Brook Lopez, who like Collins played alongside his twin brother at Stanford.
"Great competitor, plays team basketball, is for the team, great guy, great character," Garnett told reporters on Saturday morning about Collins.
Garnett also scoffed at the notion that Collins' orientation with the Nets would be any sort of issue with the team.
"I think it's important that anybody who has the capabilities and skill level [gets] a chance to [do] something he's great at," Garnett said. "I think it would be bias, and in a sense, racist, if you [were] to keep that opportunity from a person."
The Nets' signing of Collins comes not long after University of Missouri defensive end Michael Sam announced he is gay earlier this month in an ESPN "Outside The Lines" interview. Sam, though, can't make his official NFL debut until the fall. Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder Robbie Rogers became the first openly gay male athlete to play in a U.S. professional sports league when he made his Major League Soccer debut in May 2013, just three months after coming out. And John Amaechi, who spent five seasons in the NBA with Orlando, Utah and Cleveland, disclosed his sexuality three years after his playing career ended in a 2007 book entitled "Man In The Middle."
Athlete Ally, a non-profit group that works closely with the NBA and other professional sports leagues on LGBT inclusion, applauded the Nets' decision.
"Today, Jason Collins tore open the last remaining closet in America, and became the first openly gay player to be signed by a team in one of the big four sports. We are especially excited that Jason will be playing in Brooklyn, just like Jackie Robinson, and in a marriage equality state. This is a piece of history, an important point on the continuum toward justice and a moment to celebrate," Brian Ellner, a member of the Athlete Ally board of directors said in a statement.
In an interview with ESPN's LZ Granderson in January, Collins said he has been training hard while waiting for an opportunity.
"I try to control what I can control and that's how hard I train right now," Collins said. "I know that I'm in great shape and that if I get an opportunity ... if an owner, coach, GM calls my agent ... I'll be ready to play."
Asked if being gay has harmed his ability to get a call, he said: "I have no idea. For me, again, it goes back to what I can control, and that's my training."
Asked what has changed for him since he came out, Collins said: "I get to be who I am. I don't have to walk around with a censor button. I don't have to walk around with 'don't say this, don't do this.'"
Raymond Felton could be done with the gun charges, poor NY fans, I feel your pain.
Quote from: Purostyle on February 25, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
Raymond Felton could be done with the gun charges, poor NY fans, I feel your pain.
No team wanted to trade for him. Can't imagine why...
http://beta.thescore.com/nba/news/439560 (http://beta.thescore.com/nba/news/439560)
NBA considering adding a 4 point shot
Quote from: Cory on February 25, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
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NBA considering adding a 4 point shot
Also considering a bigger court as well.
NBA discussed new court, 4-pointer
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QuoteNBA president of basketball operations Rod Thorn and vice president Kiki Vandeweghe acknowledged in a recent interview with ESPN.com that the league office, at least in an exploratory fashion, has weighed expanding the dimensions of the court and the introduction of a 4-point shot.
In a sitdown interview with ESPN's TrueHoop TV, conducted during All-Star Weekend in New Orleans earlier this month, Thorn and Vandeweghe spoke of both concepts mostly from a hypothetical standpoint, but did concede that the ideas have been presented for discussion at a league level.
On Tuesday, NBA spokesman Tim Frank downplayed the chances of either idea gaining traction.
"No one at the NBA, nor the competition committee, has had any serious conversations about increasing the size of the floor or adding a 4-point line," Frank said in a statement. "Rod Thorn and Kiki Vandeweghe were entertaining a line of questioning about out-of-the-box ideas and ESPN.com chose to make a story that doesn't exist."
The NBA has employed a 94-foot-by-50-foot court since the 1940s. But Vandeweghe -- who went to two All-Star Games as a player and most recently served as an executive and head coach with the Nets before joining the league office in 2013 -- confirmed that the growing size and ever-increasing athleticism of players today prompted discussion about expanding the playing surface.
"Making the court bigger -- it's an interesting idea and we've actually looked at it," Vandeweghe said. "We keep a list of ideas on what we should do and how we can make the game better, of course. But arenas are obviously built in a certain way and that would take a lot of adjusting to actually make the court bigger. But does it mean we shouldn't look at it? No, of course not. We're looking at all sorts of things."
Added Thorn: "Those seats that are very close to the court are obviously very expensive seats to start out with. And most of them come right up to the floor. So when you start extending the floor, sideways or length -- you could probably extend it lengthwise easier than you can sideways. So there are a lot of things you have to look at there."
The NBA adopted the 3-point shot from the old ABA starting in the 1979-80 season. As for the prospect of a 4-point shot, Thorn said that, too, is "something that's come up" as an informal proposal.
The mere notion of the NBA someday adopting a 4-pointer is believed to be an offshoot of a famed quote from then-Boston Celtics star Antoine Walker, who reportedly answered a question about why he took so many 3-point shots by saying: "Because there are no 4s."
Report: Police investigate TNT's Shaquille O'Neal for alleged 'attack' of co-worker
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QuoteDid the Shaq Fu get a little out of hand?
Atlanta Police are investigating basketball legend Shaquille O'Neal after Robert Williams, a co-worker, alleged that he was "physically attack[ed]" by the TNT commentator, according to a WSB-TV report. Through a lawyer, Williams alleges that he sustained "permanent injuries" as a result of the incident.
WSB-TV reports further details about the alleged incident, which occurred in May 2013.
"(The co-worker) alleged Shaquille O'Neal tackled him to the ground causing injury to his back while they were at work at Turner Studios," said Sgt. Greg Lyon with the Atlanta Police Department.
Robert Williams went to the Atlanta Police Department and said that Shaq tackle-punched him, knocking him down and falling on top of him.
"I don't know the extent of his injury, but I have heard that [they were serious] as well, that his injuries were severe to his back," Lyon said.
The 42-year-old O'Neal, who retired in 2011 after a 19-year NBA career, has not been charged with any crime. His lawyer released a statement referring to the incident as "horseplay."
Listed at 7-foot-1 and 325 pounds during his playing days, O'Neal has long been known for his jovial personality and love for pranks and stunts. Shortly after he announced his retirement, the LSU product signed on with Turner Sports and joined the popular "Inside the NBA" program, alongside host Ernie Johnson and fellow commentators Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith.
O'Neal's stepfather, Phillip Harrison, was an Army sergeant, and O'Neal has long cultivated relationships with law enforcement agencies.
The future first-ballot Hall of Famer won four titles and was selected to 15 All-Star Games during his career.
Coach has Glen Davis sent off bench
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QuoteHOUSTON -- Los Angeles Clippers forward Glen "Big Baby" Davis was sent back to the team's locker room by coach Doc Rivers with 10:21 left in the second quarter and will miss the rest of the game for disciplinary issues.
Davis was visibly upset as he walked toward the team bench after being taken out of the game for Ryan Hollins in Saturday night's showdown against the Houston Rockets.
Davis exchanged words with Rivers and was told to sit down. Clippers assistant coach Alvin Gentry attempted to talk to Davis, but Rivers apparently had seen and heard enough and told team security to escort Davis back to the locker room.
Davis joined Blake Griffin in the locker room after Griffin left the game with 5:49 left in the first quarter with back spasms and did not return.
After Davis was sent to the locker room, the Clippers went on a 34-18 run and took a 61-58 halftime lead after trailing by as many as 15 points in the second quarter.
Davis signed with the Clippers on Feb. 24 after negotiating a buyout with the Orlando Magic. Davis played for Rivers with the Boston Celtics from 2007 to '11, winning a championship in 2008.
Well, he's called Big Baby for a reason...I've never thought it was because of his size.
Quote from: Reya Serra on March 29, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
Well, he's called Big Baby for a reason...I've never thought it was because of his size.
Apparently Big Baby was being a Big Baby tonight...
Big Baby actually came from him being a big baby at birth
but yeah, acting like a child isn't going to bring attention to that at all
Playoff Picture and Magic Numbers: Pacers can't kick Heat
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QuoteMore NBA: Power Rankings | Expert Picks | Latest news, notes
East No. 1 vs. No. 2: Indiana Pacers vs. Miami Heat
And just like that, the Heat are back to being two back. All that progress Indy made with the big win, and they can't capitalize. Not only does Miami clock the Pistons despite missing four key rotation players, but the Pacers get trounced by the Wizards. Miami might even be peeling back on its efforts to secure the 1-seed, choosing to pursue rest, and yet they're not losing ground.
Relevant Games Saturday: Miami faces the might Milwaukee Bucks, and can climb within 1.5 games of the top seed.
East No. 3 vs. No. 4 vs. No. 5 vs. No. 6: Toronto Raptors vs. Chicago Bulls vs. Brooklyn Nets vs. Washington Wizards
Toronto's win clinched a playoff berth for the Raptors, the Knicks' loss clinched a playoff berth for the Bulls. Not bad for two teams expected to tank at different points of the season.
The Raptors pulled up by a full win over Chicago and moved their magic number for the division to nine. If Chicago wants to keep the Pacers in their bracket, staying in the four is preferable. But now the Nets are back to within 1.5 games of Chicago. The Bulls have a lot of work left to do.
I'm bumping Washington back up into this tier. You beat the Pacers to climb within 1.5 of the six, you've earned it.
Brooklyn's magic number for a playoff berth is two; it's two for the Wizards as well thanks to tiebreaker.
Relevant Games Saturday: The Wizards can move within a game of Brooklyn. It's a back to back, and a loss would move them three games in the loss column behind the Nets, five behind the Raptors.
East No. 7 vs. East No. 8 vs. East No. 9: Charlotte Bobcats vs. Atlanta Hawks vs. New York Knicks
The Bobcats' loss to the Magic wasn't a death knell to their hopes at the six, but it's going to take a long, sustained winning streak to overtake Washington.
Atlanta keeps benefiting not from wins but New York's colossal ineptitude. Atlanta's back up by two. Who will lose less next? Find out on the next episode of America's Most Pathetic!
Bobcats' magic number is five, Atlanta's is nine.
Relevant Games Saturday: Atlanta can put 2.5 games between them and the Knicks.
West No. 1 vs. No. 2: San Antonio Spurs vs. Oklahoma City Thunder
Spurs win. That's their thing. Up by three over OKC for the No. 2. The Spurs have clinched homecourt in the first round. Their magic number for the division is five.
Relevant Games: San Antonio gets the Pelicans who may be without Anthony Davis on a back to back. San Antonio and Oklahoma City both gain a game on either the Clippers or Rockets with the two teams playing Saturday night.
West No. 3 vs. No. 4 vs. No. 5 vs. No. 6: Los Angeles Clippers vs. Houston Rockets vs. Portland Trail Blazer vs. Golden State Warriors
Huge wins by the Blazers and Warriors to keep pace Friday night. Portland kept a game ahead of Golden State.
The Clippers' magic number for a playoff berth is one. Houston's is four.
Relevant Games: Well, the Clippers play the Rockets, with a chance for Houston to tie the Clippers (Clippers have tiebreaker regardless).
West No. 7 vs. No. 8 vs. No. 9: Phoenix Suns vs. Memphis Grizzlies vs. Dallas Mavericks
The Mavericks caught a break with Memphis' loss. They're still just a half-game back, now. Phoenix was totally out of it and their chances were fading a week ago. Now they're in seventh. Welcome to the West.
Can I just say once more...Noah is the best big man in the game right now and deserves to be the MVP of this season!
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on March 30, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
Can I just say once more...Noah is the best big man in the game right now and deserves to be the MVP of this season!
Yes to the first part, no to the second, it's KD's to lose he deserves it just as, if not, more than Noah. He played much of the season without the second best guy on his team and has them at the top of the West. Noah and Blake will fight it out for third
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on March 30, 2014, 05:10:21 PM
Yes to the first part, no to the second, it's KD's to lose he deserves it just as, if not, more than Noah. He played much of the season without the second best guy on his team and has them at the top of the West. Noah and Blake will fight it out for third
Aye, but the Bulls should have been completely down and out this year. No Rose and the trading of Ian's semi beloved Luol Deng...add to that Carlos Boozer who is probably one of the most overpaid players ever. I just feel Noah has willed Chicago into the postseason. Given I felt we were due to collapse further once we traded Deng.
Stephen Curry should also get some MVP consideration as well. He's played phenomenally this season.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 30, 2014, 05:19:56 PM
Stephen Curry should also get some MVP consideration as well. He's played phenomenally this season.
Nah, the team has done worse than expectations, that plays into the voting
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on March 30, 2014, 05:16:14 PM
Aye, but the Bulls should have been completely down and out this year. No Rose and the trading of Ian's semi beloved Luol Deng...add to that Carlos Boozer who is probably one of the most overpaid players ever. I just feel Noah has willed Chicago into the postseason. Given I felt we were due to collapse further once we traded Deng.
In the terrible East? Nah. This is the same team that beat a better Nets team last year with Nate Robinson and a hobbled Noah. I love Noah though, hated him at Florida, but the way he plays is awesome
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on March 30, 2014, 05:43:27 PM
Nah, the team has done worse than expectations, that plays into the voting
His last five games...
3/28 Mem 5 8 1 2 33
3/22 SA 6 6 1 0 20
3/20 Mil 3 11 1 0 31
3/18 Orl 3 5 0 0 23
3/16 @Por 4 5 1 0 37
3/14 Cle 4 8 3 0 27
Guy has been on fire. Just saying.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 30, 2014, 05:46:30 PM
His last five games...
3/28 Mem 5 8 1 2 33
3/22 SA 6 6 1 0 20
3/20 Mil 3 11 1 0 31
3/18 Orl 3 5 0 0 23
3/16 @Por 4 5 1 0 37
3/14 Cle 4 8 3 0 27
Guy has been on fire. Just saying.
Too bad the MVP isn't determined by the last five games someone has. He's about the same he was last year. He's great, maybe All-NBA, but not MVP. Blake and Noah have better cases.
:)
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The Suns might actually make the playoffs.
I like how you guys talk about MVP and no one has mentioned a relatively unknown guy who plays forward down in Miami....
The award will go to Durant. Very good team record and his individual performance has been outstanding. Noah and Griffin have good cases, even though I might argue CP3 as the most valuable of the Clippers, but LeBron needs to be in the discussion. Wade has missed significant time this year and they could still get the #1 seed.
You seem to be forgetting that they play out East. The a Phoenix Suns, who are currently seeded ninth out West with 44 wins, would be the third best team in the East if they were in that conference. East is the weaker conference so that's a moot point right there Digger.
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html)
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 03, 2014, 09:21:49 AM
You seem to be forgetting that they play out East. The a Phoenix Suns, who are currently seeded ninth out West with 44 wins, would be the third best team in the East if they were in that conference. East is the weaker conference so that's a moot point right there Digger.
http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html (http://www.nba.com/standings/team_record_comparison/conferenceNew_Std_Cnf.html)
Heat are 20-8 against the Western Conference.
So much for that moot point.
LeBron is and always will be in the MVP talk as long as he continues to post ridiculous video game numbers.
Quote from: Jon on April 03, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
Heat are 20-8 against the Western Conference.
So much for that moot point.
LeBron is and always will be in the MVP talk as long as he continues to post ridiculous video game numbers.
So? He's still going to lose to Kevin Durant in the MVP race this year. Durant's been the best player in the league in my opinion and it's not even close especially considering the Westbrook injury which had more of an impact on the Thunder than Wade's injury had on the Heat since.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 03, 2014, 09:48:59 AM
So? He's still going to lose to Kevin Durant in the MVP race this year. Durant's been the best player in the league in my opinion and it's not even close especially considering the Westbrook injury which had more of an impact on the Thunder than Wade's injury had on the Heat since.
I think the MVP votes will be VERY close. Both players have put together very dominant seasons.
People will vote Durant because theyve gotten bored of Lebron winning. Its how Malone and Barkley got theirs.
Quote from: Jon on April 03, 2014, 09:59:45 AM
I think the MVP votes will be VERY close. Both players have put together very dominant seasons.
I agree but I think overall Durant has had the better year of the two.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 03, 2014, 10:25:04 AM
I agree but I think overall Durant has had the better year of the two.
He had the better scoring year and always will. Lebron rebounds, assists, and defends. He is the best overall player in the game and will be until he gets 35.
Quote from: JustinP on April 03, 2014, 02:45:52 PM
He had the better scoring year and always will. Lebron rebounds, assists, and defends. He is the best overall player in the game and will be until he gets 35.
Until he gets 35? I think that's highly doubtful considering there's a lot of time between now and then.
I'm as big a fan of LeBron's game as anyone, but he won't be the top player in the league until he's 35. Durant is young enough comparably that in 2 or 3 years his overall game will be better than LBJ. That's not to say that LeBron won't go down as the better player when they're both done, but he won't be better in a few years.
Durant will NEVER be the player that Lebron is. Lets be honest here, Lebron could score 35 points a game if he wanted to, but he doesn't have to. Durant will never be able to play defense the way Lebron does because he's not quick enough or strong enough. Durant will never be the passer that Lebron is because few people see the court like Lebron does...Paul, Rondo and Rubio come to mind (though Rubio is careless at times with the ball, but that doesn't affect his vision). And Durant will never be the rebounder that Lebron is. Sure he will get boards because of his height, but he won't be able to bang down low with other bigs on a consistent basis.
Okay since Lebron is on some "otherwordly planet" compared to Durant let's look at their stats...
Lebron James stats:
GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
'13-'14
MIA
71 71 37.5 9.8-17.3 .569 1.5-3.9 .373 5.5-7.3 .747 1.0 5.9 6.9 6.5 0.3 1.6 1.6 3.5 26.6
Kevin Durant stats:
GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
13-'14
OKC
73 73 38.4 10.5-20.6 .510 2.4-5.9 .408 8.7-10.0 .873 0.7 6.8 7.5 5.6 0.8 1.3 2.2 3.5 32.1
Looking at the stats they are VERY similar. So I think saying the comment that Durant will never be the player Lebron is is a bit far fetched considering how close their stat lines are for this season. Also let me point out that Durant plays SF like Lebron, not PF so banging down low with the other bigs is a bit of a stretch considering PF and C are the down low players.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 04, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Okay since Lebron is on some "otherwordly planet" compared to Durant let's look at their stats...
Lebron James stats:
GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
'13-'14
MIA
71 71 37.5 9.8-17.3 .569 1.5-3.9 .373 5.5-7.3 .747 1.0 5.9 6.9 6.5 0.3 1.6 1.6 3.5 26.6
Kevin Durant stats:
GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
13-'14
OKC
73 73 38.4 10.5-20.6 .510 2.4-5.9 .408 8.7-10.0 .873 0.7 6.8 7.5 5.6 0.8 1.3 2.2 3.5 32.1
Looking at the stats they are VERY similar. So I think saying the comment that Durant will never be the player Lebron is is a bit far fetched considering how close their stat lines are for this season. Also let me point out that Durant plays SF like Lebron, not PF so banging down low with the other bigs is a bit of a stretch considering PF and C are the down low players.
You look at the stats like their gospel sometimes. KD will never be the ball-handling, work everyone in, 3/small ball 4 that Lebron is. LeBron has more points generated by assists than KD by almost 200, as a power forward, where he has played 81% of his time on the court this season, on par with last season where he played there for 82% of his time on the court.
He's not the lockdown defender that Lebron is and his frame will never allow him to bulk up like Lebron where he can go in the low post and bang with big guys. KD has added the one leg fade that Dirk has used to kill people in the high post, that's about the extent of his post play.
What Justin meant was if KD wasn't close to 7 foot, his rebound numbers would not be what they are. You know when Lebron is about to take over, when he takes his man in the low post, backs them down and goes to work. Ever since the 2011 playoffs where he finally realized "I am one of the fastest and strongest players in the game, I'm just gonna murder these fools in the low post" which is something everyone ever born said he needed to do because he'd be unstoppable.
It's pretty evident that Durant won't ever be the LeBron defensively but I'm not sure LeBron will ever be Durant offensively. What do you value more? Durant, who gives you volume scoring and plays average defense or LeBron, who gives you a more rounded game.
Either way, it's splitting hairs, IMO.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on April 05, 2014, 09:45:47 AM
It's pretty evident that Durant won't ever be the LeBron defensively but I'm not sure LeBron will ever be Durant offensively. What do you value more? Durant, who gives you volume scoring and plays average defense or LeBron, who gives you a more rounded game.
Either way, it's splitting hairs, IMO.
Lebron is the better offensive player too. Durant is the better shooter by far but Lebrons jumper has improved and nobody can stop him driving to the basket. Like I said he can score 35 if he wanted to but his team doesnt need to. Durant has to shoot in loads cause his team needs him to. Bit nobody can take over a game like Lebron can.
KD tied Jordan's 25 points record last night by scoring that amount in 40 straight games. I just think you guys are overhyping Lebron especially considering how Durant is playing at the moment.
Quote from: JustinP on April 05, 2014, 10:16:19 AM
Lebron is the better offensive player too. Durant is the better shooter by far but Lebrons jumper has improved and nobody can stop him driving to the basket. Like I said he can score 35 if he wanted to but his team doesnt need to. Durant has to shoot in loads cause his team needs him to. Bit nobody can take over a game like Lebron can.
Nobody can take ever a game like Lebron can? Kobe, when healthy, can do just that. Carmelo should be in that conversation too especially considering how shitty the Knicks overall roster is. The fact they might actually make the playoffs says a lot especially after how badly they were playing at times during the season.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 05, 2014, 10:26:40 AM
KD tied Jordan's 25 points record last night by scoring that amount in 40 straight games. I just think you guys are overhyping Lebron especially considering how Durant is playing at the moment.
Nobody can take ever a game like Lebron can? Kobe, when healthy, can do just that. Carmelo should be in that conversation too especially considering how shitty the Knicks overall roster is. The fact they might actually make the playoffs says a lot especially after how badly they were playing at times during the season.
Yes it says a lot about the NBA, not the Knicks or Melo. You know what even says more, the fact that a 50 win team probably won't make the playoffs in the West, but a 35 win team will in the east.''
And no, the closest person who could take over like Lebron s Chris Paul and it's not even close. We're not overhyping Lebron, we just recognize that LeBron is a team that is good enough in a conference that is shitty enough that he doesn't have to play like he use to in the regular season. Like I said, you're looking at stats like they're the gospel and the end-all, be-all of how good Lebron and KD are. His numbers are "down" because he is on a better team. KD's stats are MVP-winning because he HAD to put up those numbers with Russel out. He's the MVP
Lebron is playing in a WEAK NBA era. His numbers are overhyped because the NBA now is nowhere along the lines of where it used to be. He is gifted but if he was playing in the Superstar Era back in the day with Malone, Barkley, etc. and with the style of play from back then I don't think his numbers would be like they are currently.
Lebron is on a better team? LOL look at how shitty his conference is compared to the West where Durant is playing at. In my opinion the Thunder are the better team because they are winning in the harder conference. Add to it the Thunder have a better conference record than the Heat which says a lot in my opinion.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 05, 2014, 11:19:58 AM
Lebron is playing in a WEAK NBA era. His numbers are overhyped because the NBA now is nowhere along the lines of where it used to be. He is gifted but if he was playing in the Superstar Era back in the day with Malone, Barkley, etc. and with the style of play from back then I don't think his numbers would be like they are currently.
Lebron is on a better team? LOL look at how shitty his conference is compared to the West where Durant is playing at. In my opinion the Thunder are the better team because they are winning in the harder conference. Add to it the Thunder have a better conference record than the Heat which says a lot in my opinion.
Better team....who are the two time defending champions?
And I agree with your point about the prior era. However Durant would be mediocre at best. He would be roughed and banged around and would be nowhere near effective.
Quote from: JustinP on April 05, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
Better team....who are the two time defending champions?
And I agree with your point about the prior era. However Durant would be mediocre at best. He would be roughed and banged around and would be nowhere near effective.
Two time defending champs don't mean nothing this season. They were lucky last season to win that title.
I agree about Durant and think Lebron would be nowhere near as effective in that era as well.
Here's the issue when people talk about era's. Not only were the pro game played differently, the college game, the high school game were played differently. LeBron would have came up playing the "harder more defensive game". KD wouldn't be in the NBA. 6' 9'' and 240lb with no post game? Nope, a coach would have stuck him in the post and watch him get beat up. LBJ would stand a better chance.
Until the Heat are knocked off, they're the best team. Regular season is great and all, but it doesn't matter what happens in the regular season if you don't win it all. So while your opinion is that the Thunder are the better team, the fact is the Heat are the better team.
How are the Heat the better team when they're in the weaker conference, have a worse conference record than the Thunder, and have less wins than the Thunder? The title was won LAST SEASON. This season is something else entirely.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 05, 2014, 12:23:57 PM
How are the Heat the better team when they're in the weaker conference, have a worse conference record than the Thunder, and have less wins than the Thunder? The title was won LAST SEASON. This season is something else entirely.
To be the best you have to beat the best. Being the defending champions, let alone two time, makes you the best team until yiu get knocked off.
The Heat will win again this season. The Thunder wont win as long as they have Westbrook and Durant on the same team.
The Heat have to deal with Indiana first. I think the Pacers will give them a run for their money. I've liked what I'm seeing from Brooklyn down the stretch too.
The Pacers are fading. Paul George is proving that he still has a ways to go before he is an elite player. It will be another good series but the Heat will win in 5.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 05, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
The Heat have to deal with Indiana first. I think the Pacers will give them a run for their money. I've liked what I'm seeing from Brooklyn down the stretch too.
Indiana needs to remember how to play basketball before they can take the Heat.
I will disagree that the Thunder can win with both Russell and KD, KD can't do it all, just look at last year against Memphis and Russell has no fear, which you need.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 05, 2014, 02:12:03 PM
Indiana needs to remember how to play basketball before they can take the Heat.
I will disagree that the Thunder can win with both Russell and KD, KD can't do it all, just look at last year against Memphis and Russell has no fear, which you need.
He has no fear but he also doesnt like playing second fiddle. When he gets on he goes completely stupid and tries to take over and ends up costing his team. It has happened every postseason.
Clippers are also looking very good recently.
Bucks sold for $550 Million
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10790404/milwaukee-bucks-announce-sale-team (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10790404/milwaukee-bucks-announce-sale-team)
QuoteThe Milwaukee Bucks will announce later Wednesday that longtime owner Herb Kohl has reached an agreement to sell the team to hedge-fund billionaires Wesley Edens and Marc Lasry in a deal valued at $550 million, according to sources familiar with the transaction.
In January, Forbes valued the Bucks at $405 million, last among the league's 30 franchises.
Sources told ESPN.com that the deal, subject to league approval, will be confirmed in an afternoon news conference.
Kohl, a longtime U.S. senator who bought the team for $18 million in 1985, made keeping the team in Milwaukee a condition of the sale. It's also believed Kohl, while relinquishing majority control, will retain a significant percentage of the team.
The Bucks have fallen way short of expectations. After harboring hopes of making a playoff push, they will finish this season with the worst record in the NBA. Wednesday's announcement will bring an upbeat conclusion to Kohl's search for buyers who wouldn't try to move the team after his nearly 30 years of ownership and deep ties to the state of Wisconsin.
Among the challenges for Edens and Lasry, assuming their purchase is ratified by the league, will be erecting a new building to replace the outdated Bradley Center.
On a visit there in September, months before he succeeded David Stern, new NBA commissioner Adam Silver said "an obvious issue we all have to deal with is we need a new arena in Milwaukee."
Talk about a return on investment.
How bout them Raptors
Quote from: Cory on April 17, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
How bout them Raptors
They've had a great season (by Raptors standards anyways lol) though they might be in for a rough ride in round one...I think the playoff experience is like 500 games for Nets players and 150 for Raptors players, with the most being Hansborough's 30-odd lol
They will lose to the Nets.
Not just the Raptors but the Wizards and Bobcats also were very surprising.
Raptors are goin to beat the nets. Top 10 offense and defense as well as having Brooklyn's number all year. Brooklyn's run hinged on the ankles of Williams and the health of KG. I'll take the odds on the hinge breaking.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 18, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
Raptors are goin to beat the nets. Top 10 offense and defense as well as having Brooklyn's number all year. Brooklyn's run hinged on the ankles of Williams and the health of KG. I'll take the odds on the hinge breaking.
I don't know if I'd say they had their number. 2-2 series split and without the scores of those games in front of me, I can't tell if they were close or one sided. I'm hoping the youth, the underdog status and the fact that they have the country behind them gives them the juice they need to win.
...I can dream, right?
It will go the limit but I think the Nets will edge them out.
I think the Raptors are going to be a tough out. They play tough defense- the question is can they get enough out of big Jonas V to push them over the edge. As big of a Duke fan as I am, and as much as Mason Plumlee has surprised me this season, the Nets don't have an answer for the Raptors size down low.
I'd be thrilled if the Bobcats beat the Heat. I'm going to try and make games 3-4 and I'd love nothing more to watch LeBron go down at the hands of the Bobcats.
Yeah, Jonas will be the X-factor for Toronto. He's been up and down all season, but if recent success shows anything, he's up right now and putting down a double-double a game. Him with a healthy Amir, Hansborough and Patterson makes for some interesting times in the paint, especially with Lopez out.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on April 18, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
I think the Raptors are going to be a tough out. They play tough defense- the question is can they get enough out of big Jonas V to push them over the edge. As big of a Duke fan as I am, and as much as Mason Plumlee has surprised me this season, the Nets don't have an answer for the Raptors size down low.
I'd be thrilled if the Bobcats beat the Heat. I'm going to try and make games 3-4 and I'd love nothing more to watch LeBron go down at the hands of the Bobcats.
I should be at game 3.
Quote from: JustinP on April 18, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
I should be at game 3.
If I'm able to work it out so I can go, I'll hit you up!
If Charlotte wasn't so dang far away, I'd love to go.
As it is... I'm going to def go to some Carolina Hurricane games oin Raleigh next season.
Also going to do my best to get to Charlotte for a Panthers game as well.
I'm going to the Clippers preseason game here in Vegas and probably NBA Summer League too.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on April 18, 2014, 02:13:00 PM
If I'm able to work it out so I can go, I'll hit you up!
Sounds like a plan!
Lost to the 2013 Nets by two (also had Rudy Gay on the team and we know he brought that team down going by how the team played after the trade) Then went 2-1 against the 2014 Nets, who played much better as a team than the 2013 Nets.
Suns didn't make the playoffs :(
They did better than I anticipated though, so that's a plus.
Quote from: Reya Serra on April 18, 2014, 11:06:04 PM
Suns didn't make the playoffs :(
They did better than I anticipated though, so that's a plus.
Especially with having one of the lowest player salary totals in the league. They need to resign Bledsoe though,
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 18, 2014, 11:12:28 PM
Especially with having one of the lowest player salary totals in the league. They need to resign Bledsoe though,
Yes, yes they do. That was a good pickup for them and they need to keep him around.
Quote from: Reya Serra on April 19, 2014, 01:07:20 AM
Yes, yes they do. That was a good pickup for them and they need to keep him around.
I agree. They played their best basketball with him and Dragic as their backcourt combo.
Make your predictions:
East
Pacers vs. Hawks
Raptors vs. Nets
Bulls vs. Wizards
Heat vs. Bobcats
West
Spurs vs. Mavericks
Rockets vs. Blazers
Clippers vs. Warriors
Thunder vs. Grizzlies
I'm going with:
Pacers over Hawks in 5
Raptors over Nets in 7
Bulls over Wizards in 5
Heat over Bobcats in 5
Pacers over Raptors in 6
Bulls over Heat in 7
Bulls over Pacers in 6
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Spurs over Mavericks in 4
Rockets over Blazers in 6
Clippers over Warriors in 7
Thunder over Grizzlies in 5
Rockets over Spurs in 6
Thunder over Clippers in 6
Thunder over Rockets in 6
NBA Championship: Thunder over Bulls in 7
Make your predictions:
Round 1 -
East
Pacers vs. Hawks - Pacers in 4
Raptors vs. Nets - Nets in 7
Bulls vs. Wizards - Bulls in 6
Heat vs. Bobcats - Heat in 7
West
Spurs vs. Mavericks - Spurs in 6
Rockets vs. Blazers - Rockets in 7
Clippers vs. Warriors - Clippers in 7
Thunder vs. Grizzlies - Thunder in 5
Round Two -
East
Pacers vs. Nets - Pacers in 5
Bulls vs. Heat - Heat in 6
West
Spurs vs. Rockets - Spurs in 6
Clippers vs. Thunder - Clippers in 7
Conference Finals -
East
Pacers vs. Heat - Pacers in 7
West
Spurs vs. Clippers - Clippers in 7
NBA Finals -
Pacers vs. Clippers - Clippers in 7
Make your predictions:
East
Pacers vs. Hawks - Pacers in 6
Raptors vs. Nets - Nets in 6
Bulls vs. Wizards - Bulls in 6
Heat vs. Bobcats - Heat in 4
Pacers vs. Nets - Nets in 7
Heat vs. Bulls - Heat in 6
Heat vs. Nets - Heat in 6
West
Spurs vs. Mavericks - Spurs in 5
Rockets vs. Blazers - Blazers in 7
Clippers vs. Warriors - Warriors in 7
Thunder vs. Grizzlies - Thunder in 6
Spurs vs. Blazers - Blazers in 7
Thunder vs. Warriors - Thunder in 6
Thunder vs. Blazers - Thunder in 6
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NBA Finals
Heat vs. Thunder - Thunder in 7
It doesnt matter because the Heat are going to win. I will put money on it. As long as Stephenson and Westbrook are playing for the Pacers and Thunder neither team will win a championship.
Heat beat the Spurs in 5.
If it's Pacers vs Thunder, Justin is going to be 100% wrong, not that he's not that already. Both teams are better with them, especially in the playoffs when defense is actually played.
The Heat's time is over. New champions this year.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 19, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
If it's Pacers vs Thunder, Justin is going to be 100% wrong, not that he's not that already. Both teams are better with them, especially in the playoffs when defense is actually played.
Westbrook and Stephenson are both the same type of player in the favt that when they are hot offensively all they see is the bucket and not their teammates. That selfish play turns into a critical mistake at the most inipportune time and will cost their team a game or two.
Bit if it is the Thunder and Pacers in the finals I will give you a $100 TJ.
Clippers won by forty points last night. Pure domination after their game one loss.
The problem sometimes with the Clippers is that they can score a bunch of points, but they don't always play the best defense (from some of the game highlights I've seen through the season).
They've gotten better about that this season with Doc at the helm.
They get lazy. It's the same problem that holds back the Warriors. There is no reason the Clippers shouldn't be a top flight defensive team, especially with DeAndre Jordon playing like he's played this season protecting the rim. I thought they did a much better job of containing Klay Thompson on the pick-and-roll plays last night.
They are lucky Golden State is a mirror image of them. I don't think Lee has played a lick of defense ever. If he's scoring 20 a game, that's not an issue, but can't go 4-8 from the field and twiddle your thumbs on the other end of the court. They need him to take the pressure off Curry.
It'll be interesting to see what happens as the series heads back to Oakland.
It'll go six or seven games. Lee is horrible at defense. The guy is going to be overmatched in this series by the Clippers big guys for sure.
Blake Griffin doesn't play defense either. It will go 7 and the Warriors will win.
Quote from: JustinP on April 22, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
Blake Griffin doesn't play defense either. It will go 7 and the Warriors will win.
But when he's on fire he's a game changer just like yesterday.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 22, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
But when he's on fire he's a game changer just like yesterday.
I didnt say he wasnt. The conversation was about players not playing defense so I made sure that his name got thrown in the mix.
The Washington Wizards are really impressing me. I think they're the dark horse team in this season's playoffs going by the first two games they've played thus far.
They have the offensive spark when needed and they are quick. The Bulls are a perfect matchup for them.
Am I the only one that hated watching the Raptors play?
I didn't watch them play...what was it that you hated?
That should be hate without the d..just plain hate. I just can't stand watching the team play period.
Hated or hate, I'd still like to know why.
I know I hate watching them struggle, get a lead, turn the ball over far too much, let the other team back in and then dash for the finish. Though, I'm assuming some people might not just like the way the Raptors players conduct themselves on the court.
They are just boring to watch. Like you said they struggle throughout every game as if they are trying to figure out how to play up until the last quarter. They run around all over the court like they have no clue where they are going, Kyle Lowry is a heck of a player but he is big flopper, Terrence Ross needs to sit on the bench, and DeMar Derozan is too inconsistent but at times he thinks he's Jordan, which usually is when he is at his most inconsistent time in the game and starts jacking up shots.
The team as a whole jacks up a lot of threes and long twos that don't fall. Ross is a streaky player at the best of times (see his 50 point game and then his next game he scored 5 or something) but he tends to have a decent ability to play defence which is why he starts (and because they don't want to start Fields/Novak/Salmons who have worked well off the bench).
DeMar thinks he's Jordan because in Toronto, he is. That sounds horrible, but he's basically the new Carter or Bosh up here - the star player who is supposed to lead this team to success. I'd call the team more frustrating then anything, but I can see where you're coming from with boring.
They need a true big man to help even out the floor and help them be able to play inside out at times. It would make a world of a difference.
At this point, they are probably going to have to find that, a nice compliment to DeRozan and someone to provide the consistent production Lowry provided (he's an FA at the end of the season so unless he comes back, it will be the Vasquez show at the point).
They need to resign Lowry and pick a big man via FA or the draft. That much is certain going by how they have been playing.
It's not just the Raptors. The whole Eastern Conference is boring.
Quote from: Jon on April 23, 2014, 05:27:58 PM
It's not just the Raptors. The whole Eastern Conference is boring.
And is clearly weaker than the Western Conference.
LaMarcus Aldridge is playing at an extremely high level right now. He is averaging 44.5 PPG, 13 RPG in 2 road wins in the playoffs according to Sports Center. WOW.
I really wish Toronto would have drafted Aldridge instead of Bargnani. I believe it was down to the two of them and Bosh was lobbying for Aldridge to come to Toronto...might have lost him to Free Agency, but it would have been nice...
Still, he's going beast on the Rockets.
This playoff series is proving that Paul George is not yet the elite player that analysts tabbed him to be early in the season, nor the player his team needs him to be. The series is also revealing the major weakness of the Pacers which is their lack of a true point guard. Without that true floor general they will never make it to the finals.
The Hawks can win this series. The point guard issue is going to hurt them big time and the Hawks are playing really well right now.
It doesn't help that Hibbert is (at least he was down the stretch) a shadow of what he was to start the season. That might have changed in the playoffs, but with no true PG, a center who isn't as dominant as he was and a future elite player in George...its a team making strides, but not fully there.
The Pacers have lost their smile.
Warriors seek name-change input
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10836440/golden-state-warriors-want-input-likely-name-change (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10836440/golden-state-warriors-want-input-likely-name-change)
QuoteOAKLAND, Calif. -- The Golden State Warriors say they will be seeking input from fans on whether they should change their name after announcing earlier this week they'd purchased a 12-acre property in the Mission Bay district of San Francisco that they plan to use for a new arena.
The franchise will keep the Warriors moniker they've used since they were founded in Philadelphia in 1946 but could readopt the name for which they were known when they played in San Francisco from 1962-71 -- the San Francisco Warriors.
"We're very curious what our fans think of that," Warriors president and CEO Rick Welts told ESPN.com. "I couldn't imagine making that decision in the very near future, but we definitely want to see what our fans prefer."
While the name change and move out of Oracle Arena in Oakland to a state-of-the-art venue before the 2018-19 season might seem a bit jarring to the blue-collar identity of the franchise, Welts said that it's important to the franchise to preserve as much about what makes Oracle Arena one of the best home courts in the NBA.
"We're spending a lot of time with the facility itself to do everything possible to replicate what we think is a really special atmosphere for our games at Oracle," Welts said.
"The first assignment we gave the architects was to make sure that every seat in the new building is as close or closer than the comparable seat at Oracle. We're doing that by actually making the building smaller. We're going from 19,000 seats to 18,000 seats."
Welts said that the Warriors have also guaranteed that every employee at Oracle will have a chance to transfer their job to the new building, which is eight miles away, across the San Francisco Bay. They've guaranteed seats to their season-ticket holders in the new arena.
"Oracle Arena is the oldest arena in the NBA, and it's served great for 50 years," Welts said. "But there comes a point in time where if we're going to be the franchise that we aspire to be, we're going to need a new playing facility. And in our view, San Francisco is the right place to be if you have the same aspirations we have, to be truly one of the great franchises in sports."
Welts said he didn't think the franchise's fans in the East Bay would abandon them, since the new site is so close to Oakland, and accessible by the Bay Area's Rapid Transit (BART) system.
Welts added pushing to keep the team in Oakland was further complicated by governmental concerns.
"I think we're very cognizant also that Oakland and Alameda counties have some very serious issues to prioritize," Welts said. "And we're very understanding that the Golden State Warriors, in terms of an investment of public money, isn't one of the places that those in charge of the future of Oakland feel like is the most needy in terms of the issues and problems that the people are trying to address here."
When the Warriors purchased the 12-acre private property from Salesforce.com on Saturday, it essentially confirmed they'd scrapped plans to move to a waterfront site on Piers 30-32 near the San Francisco Giants' ballpark.
Welts said the regulatory hoops they'd have to jump through to get that project approved became too burdensome and "there came a point in time where certainty just became the most important thing."
While the new arena won't sit on the piers with striking views of the Bay Bridge, Welts said the new property will also have unobstructed views of the San Francisco Bay. The only thing standing between the new arena, which will also include a practice facility and team offices, will be a five-acre park.
The project, which is entirely privately financed, is expected to cost upwards of $1 billion, although it's impossible to project a new estimate until new architectural plans are drawn. Welts said the regulatory process at the Mission Bay site is far simpler than what the team experienced at the waterfront site to the north.
"There's a master development Mission Bay plan that was adopted 15 years ago that governs all the development here, so it operates under its own set of rules," Welts said. "And because of that, we don't have the regulatory process that we had at the other site.
"There's no federal jurisdiction, which we had with the Army Corps of Engineers, there's no regional jurisdiction, which we had with the BCDC (Bay Conservation and Development Commission). This is private lands, so we don't have port commission oversight. So it just simplifies the regulatory process, we just have to follow the Mission Bay development plan which has been in place for a long time, and what we're constructing will fit in the constructs of that development plan."
Golden State is a cooler moniker than San Fran.
L.A. Clippers Owner to GF:Don't Bring Black People to My Games ...Including Magic Johnson
4/25/2014 10:00 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
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QuoteL.A. Clippers owner Donald Sterling told his GF he does NOT want her bringing black people to his games ... including Magic Johnson ... and it's ALL on tape.
TMZ Sports has obtained audio of Sterling making the racist declaration during a heated argument on April 9th with V. Stiviano ... after she posted a photo on Instagram posing with Magic.
Sterling rails on Stiviano -- who ironically is black and Mexican -- for putting herself out in public with a black person (she has since taken the pic down). But it doesn't end there. You have to listen to the audio to fully grasp the magnitude of Sterling's racist worldview. Among the comments:
-- "It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" (3:30)
-- "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games." (5:15)
-- "I'm just saying, in your lousy f******* Instagrams, you don't have to have yourself with, walking with black people." (7:45)
-- "...Don't put him [Magic] on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games." (9:13)
Sterling has a documented history of allegedly racist behavior -- he's been sued twice by the federal government for allegedly refusing to rent apartments to Blacks and Latinos.
He was also sued by former Clippers exec Elgin Baylor for racial discrimination -- though a jury was ultimately not convinced and shot down Baylor's case.
Sterling has been separated from his wife Shelly for years. She remains a key player in running the team and sources tell us she's "mortified" by Sterling's comments.
We have made several calls to Sterling and his people ... so far, no word back.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-owner-black-people-racist-audio-magic-johnson/#ixzz2zySUtnnD (http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald-sterling-clippers-owner-black-people-racist-audio-magic-johnson/#ixzz2zySUtnnD)
Sterling just can't get it right. After years of being basketball purgatory, they have finally put together a team capable of winning, and he goes on a racist rant, which was recorded.
Unbelievable.
ADAM SILVER PLEASE FORCE DONALD STERLING TO SELL THE TEAM ... DO IT ... CLIPPERS NATION WILL REJOICE!!
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 26, 2014, 03:17:51 AM
L.A. Clippers Owner to GF:Don't Bring Black People to My Games ...Including Magic Johnson
Not sure if NBA News story or FBL Gen News.
Quote from: PapaPancho on April 26, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
ADAM SILVER PLEASE FORCE DONALD STERLING TO SELL THE TEAM ... DO IT ... CLIPPERS NATION WILL REJOICE!!
Agreed
Keith Olbermann:Clippers Should REFUSE TO PLAY Until NBA Punishes Sterling
4/26/2014 6:15 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
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QuoteThe L.A.. Clippers should BOYCOTT the playoffs ... and refuse to step on the court until the NBA takes action against Donald Sterling ... so says Keith Olbermann.
Olbermann went to Twitter this morning -- after TMZ Sports posted audio of the Clippers owner telling his GF not to bring black people to his games -- and railed against Sterling.
"time for #Clippers players to step up. Refuse to play till NBA moves against this racist jackass #Sterling. NBA can't defend him.'
Olbermann also notes, "I was banned by the #Clippers for criticism of the front office - in 1986. This made me the envy of every other LA sports media person."
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I cant stand ignorance. I hope DeAndre Jordan clotheslines him.
NBA investigating audio recording
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QuoteAn audio recording purportedly of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling making racist remarks to his girlfriend is being investigated by the National Basketball Association.
In the recording, the man believed to be Sterling questions his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, about her association with minorities. TMZ reports that Stiviano, who is black and Mexican, posted a picture of her with Magic Johnson on Instagram, a photo that has since been removed.
"It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" the man believed to be Sterling says. He continues, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games."
NBA spokesman Mike Bass issued the following statement to ESPN: "We are in the process of conducting a full investigation into the audio recording obtained by TMZ. The remarks heard on the recording are disturbing and offensive, but at this time we have no further information."
The Los Angeles Daily News reports that Clipper players held a team meeting regarding the audio, according to a source. The Clippers have not commented yet.
Players around the league began reacting as news of the investigation spread.
One player on a Western Conference playoff team, preferring to remain anonymous until more details about the validity of the recording surface, told ESPN he and his teammates were "pissed" when they first got wind of the story.
"We're waiting to see what is said [by the league] or how it's handled," said the player. "If roles were reversed, you know people wouldn't let it ride."
Former Clipper Baron Davis took to Twitter to express his thoughts about Sterling.
Last month, CBS reported that Rochelle Sterling, Sterling's wife, filed a lawsuit against Stiviano, alleging she had a sexual affair with her husband. The suit, which states Sterling and Stiviano began their relationship after meeting at the Super Bowl in 2010, asks for a return of all cash, land cars and other items that under California law are the community property of the Sterlings.
Information from ESPNLosAngeles.com's Arash Markazi and Dave McMenamin was used in this report.
Clipper Darrell I Still Love the Team... But Hate the Organization
7 minutes ago BY TMZ STAFF
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QuoteClipper Darryl -- the unofficial mascot of the team -- says he's deeply saddened by Donald Sterling's comments ... saying he still loves the team, but hates the organization.
Darryl spoke with TMZ Sports moments ago ... saying, "To know that the man responsible for putting me on the team plane to attend a playoff game in 2006 didn't like Black people at his games is upsetting."
"Furthermore, to disrespect a legend like Magic Johnson who has dedicated his career to unite people, is a travesty."
Darryl also says he believes the audio explains why he received "unjust treatment" from the organization in the past.
"The question I have "what do you do when you love a team but dislike the organization?"
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Fuck Clipper Darrell
Players react to Donald Sterling audio
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10843915/nba-players-twitter-react-donald-sterling-tmz-audio (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10843915/nba-players-twitter-react-donald-sterling-tmz-audio)
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Clippers briefly consider boycott
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QuoteSAN FRANCISCO -- Before the Los Angeles Clippers gathered at the University of San Francisco Saturday afternoon for their final practice before Sunday's playoff game against the Golden State Warriors, they gathered as a team at their downtown hotel for a meeting where they discussed the audio recording purportedly of Clippers owner Donald Sterling making racist remarks to his girlfriend.
Coach Doc Rivers led the 45-minute meeting and several players, including Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, spoke and voiced their anger after hearing the nearly 10-minute audio tape, which was released by TMZ on Friday night. The possibility of boycotting Game 4 of their first-round series against the Warriors was raised but quickly dismissed.
"I thought we needed to talk about it because everyone else is and so we needed to talk about it and all things came up," Rivers said. "We've heard all the stuff, the boycotts and all the stuff and all those things are things you could do but we choose to play and we're going to play tomorrow. ... It was brought up because I'm sure 20,000 people have suggested it but honestly I'm completely against that and they were, too.
"Why should we let someone's comments stop us from what we're trying to do? We're trying to do something here and we don't want that getting in the way of what we're trying to do."
Rivers spoke on the matter on behalf of his players. Paul and Griffin addressed reporters but refused to answer questions about Sterling or the audio tape. Paul did release a statement on the situation through the NBPA.
In the recording, the man believed to be Sterling questions his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, about her association with minorities. TMZ reports that Stiviano, who is black and Mexican, posted a picture of her with Magic Johnson on Instagram, a photo that has since been removed. Throughout the recording, the man believed to be Sterling repeatedly asks Stiviano not to take pictures with minorities on her Instagram or invite them to Clippers games.
"I don't know if I'm surprised or not," Rivers said. "I didn't like the comments, obviously. We had a great team meeting this morning about it. A lot of guys voiced their opinions. None of them were happy about it. This is a situation where we're trying to go after something very important for us. Something that we've all dreamed about all our childhoods. Donald or anyone else had nothing to do with that dream and we're not going to let anything get in the way of those dreams."
Rivers left the Boston Celtics last June after the Clippers agreed to send Boston an unprotected first-round pick in 2015 as compensation for letting Rivers out of the final three years of his contract. Rivers signed a similar three-year, $21 million deal with the Clippers to become the head coach and senior vice president of basketball operations.
When asked how comfortable he was now working for a team owned by Sterling, Rivers said, "I don't know. It doesn't make me comfortable today, for sure. I have a job to do for the players. I have to get them to do their jobs and it's going to be a hard job and I get that. They're going to get hit all night. This is a distraction and my job is to try to lead them the best way that I know how.
"The best way I know is to get them together and unite them together to play well. It is a distraction, there's no question about that."
While the players did not address the matter publicly, Rivers said the team was united in their displeasure and anger about what they heard in the recording.
"They're young men," Rivers said. "It shouldn't be African American men. We have two white guys. It's about being human. We're not going to get into what race we are because we represent each other and this is our team and that's the way we're going to keep it. No one was happy about it. J.J. Redick was just as pissed as Chris Paul and that's the way it should be.
"Having said that, our goal is to win the NBA title and we're not going to let anything stand in the way of that. That's adversity that we didn't want but we have it and we have to deal with it and we'll deal with it internally but we're not going to share it with anybody else."
Rivers said he had not talked to Sterling and didn't plan on talking to him before Sunday's game.
"We have not and we have not tried honestly," Rivers said. "This is something that Donald and his family and everyone else has to figure that part out. We don't need a talk. We don't need that. ... Not right now. I want to deal with my team. This is a distraction and for me, I'm going focus on my guys. I came here for them and they came here because of each other. Our goals have not changed. It's like one of the players said today, 'When I was a little kid and I had a goal to win a world championship, it was to do that. It wasn't to win a world championship for someone.' That's our thoughts."
Rivers, like most of the team, was made aware of the audio tape late Friday night and heard it before Saturday morning's meeting.
"I heard it all," Rivers said. "I wasn't happy. I don't like racism. It's something I don't want to deal with but it is real life stuff that comes into play and this is one of them and we're going to deal with it as a group together and that's all we can do."
Rivers continually stressed the importance of his players focusing on the game at hand and not getting distracted but understood that would be easier said than done before Sunday's game.
"It upsets all of us," Rivers said. "There's not one guy that's happy with this situation. Do you think I want to be talking about this instead of trying to stop Steph Curry? I don't. I don't like all the phone calls I've been getting and all that stuff. We try to keep clutter away from our team and it's been brought to our team and it upsets me and it upsets our team. Having said that, we have something that we're playing for right now and we're going to deal with that and the other stuff, we'll deal with later."
The team discussed various possibilities and options available to them during the meeting but Rivers said their goal of winning a championship as a team was still their top priority and they would deal with off-the-court issues after the season.
"It's disturbing," Rivers said. "It's disturbing if you hear it from anyone. It doesn't matter if he works with us or for us. It's a disturbing comment but we have to be above it right now. There will be a time and a place for us to have a reaction but this is not the time or the place.
"We're trying to win a title and we're not going to allow something to get in the way. The league is going to handle this. The player's association will handle this as well. The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men, but as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group, not splinter, not walk. It's easy to protest. The protest will be in our play."
Alleged Sterling talk being probed
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QuoteAn audio recording purportedly of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling making racist remarks to his girlfriend is being investigated by the NBA.
In the recording, the man believed to be Sterling questions his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, about her association with minorities. TMZ reports that Stiviano, who is black and Mexican, posted a picture of her with Magic Johnson on Instagram, a photo that has since been removed.
"It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" the man believed to be Sterling says. He continues, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in, you can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games."
NBA spokesman Mike Bass issued the following statement: "We are in the process of conducting a full investigation into the audio recording obtained by TMZ. The remarks heard on the recording are disturbing and offensive, but at this time we have no further information."
The Clippers have opened their own investigation, team president Andy Roeser said in a statement.
"We have heard the tape on TMZ. We do not know if it is legitimate or it has been altered," he said. "We do know that the woman on the tape -- who we believe released it to TMZ -- is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would 'get even.'
"Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings. It is the antithesis of who he is, what he believes and how he has lived his life. He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them.
"He is also upset and apologizes for sentiments attributed to him about Earvin Johnson. He has long considered Magic a friend and has only the utmost respect and admiration for him -- both in terms of who he is and what he has achieved. We are investigating this matter."
Johnson wrote in a series of tweets that he would not attend another Clippers game while Sterling owned the team.
In a later tweet he added:
Reverend Jesse Jackson also weighed in on Sterling's alleged comments.
"The first burden is upon the commissioner, Adam Silver, to act decisively because we don't want this to drag on throughout the playoffs," the noted civil rights activist said. "Donald Sterling should be banned immediately. The question is for how long. To do otherwise would subject his players to the indignity of working for a racist.
"And since Donald Sterling doesn't want blacks to go to his games, blacks should not go to his games. And whites who view blacks as equals should not go to his games. Why should the players even play for him when he has stated that their relatives -- their children, their parents, some of their wives -- are not welcome at their games?"
The Clippers held a 45-minute team meeting Saturday morning regarding the audio.
Sterling was set to receive a Lifetime Achievement Award from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in May.
The NAACP issued a statement about the remarks.
"If these allegations are proven true, we are extremely disappointed in Mr. Sterling," Alice Huffman, president of the NAACP California State Conference, said in the release. "Recent remarks like these, and those of Cliven Bundy, remind us that racism is not a footnote of our past, but a reality of our present that we must confront head on.
"... As the investigation is in progress, we urge the LA Branch of the NAACP to withdraw Donald Sterling from the honoree list at its upcoming Gala. We also suggest that African Americans and Latinos should honor his request and not attend the games."
Players around the league began reacting as news of the investigation spread.
"It's a damn shame but a sad reality that we have people in the world who continue to further such ignorance," Lakers star Kobe Bryant told ESPN's Stephen A. Smith. "I would not want to play for him."
Warriors coach Mark Jackson, whose team is playing the Clippers in a first-round playoff series, said he was "disappointed in the comments made."
It's "unfortunate," he continued. "I believe there's no place in society for those feelings, and it's just sad."
When asked if he wished the owners would do something, Jackson said, "This is the real world. And I'll go out on a limb and say that the statements that were made, there's other people in this world that feel that way. So let's not be naive."
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JAMES I've wavered back and forth if I would actually sit out, if our owner came out and said the things that he said. I would really have to sit down with my teammates, talk to my family, because at the end of the day, our family and our teammates are way more important than that. ... But there's no room for Donald Sterling in our league. There's no room for him.
" -- LeBron James on alleged Donald Sterling comments
Heat star LeBron James summed up his thoughts on the situation: "No room for Donald Sterling in our league."
"As commissioner of our league, you have to make a stand and you have to be very aggressive with it," James said. "I don't know what it's going to be, but you just can't have that in our league."
How difficult would it be to play in playoffs with this hanging over your head?
"I don't know. I've wavered back and forth if I would actually sit out, if our owner came out and said the things that he said," James answered. "I would really have to sit down with my teammates, talk to my family, because at the end of the day, our family and our teammates are way more important than that. And basketball is huge, obviously the playoffs have been unbelievable, and I hate the fact that something like this has to come when the playoffs have been unbelievable. And the game of basketball continues to grow.
"But there's no room for Donald Sterling in our league. There's no room for him."
Michael Jordan, the only NBA majority owner who is African American, had no comment at this time, his business manager said.
Former Clipper Baron Davis took to Twitter to express his thoughts about Sterling.
Last month, CBS reported that Rochelle Sterling, Sterling's wife, filed a lawsuit against Stiviano, alleging she had a sexual affair with her husband. The suit, which states Sterling and Stiviano began their relationship after meeting at the Super Bowl in 2010, asks for a return of all cash, land cars and other items that under California law are the community property of the Sterlings.
A spokeswoman for the Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network, Jacky Johnson, said the organization planned to a protest outside Tuesday night's NBA playoff game in Los Angeles.
Sterling, a real estate mogul, bought the Clippers in 1981. He's been the longest-tenured owner in the NBA since Lakers owner Jerry Buss died last year.
He has been frequently criticized for his frugal operation of the Clippers, although in recent years he has spent heavily to add stars such as Chris Paul and Doc Rivers, who led the team back to the playoffs in his first season as coach.
Paul, also the NBPA president, issued a statement.
"On behalf of the National Basketball Players Association, this is a very serious issue which we will address aggressively," it read. "We have asked Mayor Kevin Johnson to expand his responsibilities with the NBPA, to determine our response and our next steps. As players, we owe it to our teams and our fans to keep our focus on our game, the playoffs, and a drive to the Finals."
Johnson, for his part, called the comments "reprehensible and unacceptable."
Sterling has been involved in several lawsuits over the years, including ones with discrimination accusations.
In November 2009, Sterling agreed to pay $2.73 million to settle allegations by the government that he refused to rent apartments to Hispanics and blacks and to families with children. The Justice Department sued Sterling in August 2006 for allegations of housing discrimination in the Koreatown area of Los Angeles.
In March 2011, Sterling won a lawsuit against former Clippers general manager Elgin Baylor when a jury rejected the Hall of Famer's claim of age discrimination and harassment. Baylor, who was 76 at the time, had sought about $2 million after claiming he was forced out of the job he'd held for 22 years. The team said Baylor left on his own and a jury awarded him nothing.
"Myself and other people of color were subjected to this mentality for over 20 years," Baylor told ESPN. "I both witnessed and experienced it. What he said speaks for itself."
Sterling is a courtside fixture at home games. He rarely visits the team's locker room at Staples Center, although he made an appearance in December 2012 after the Clippers had won their 11th straight game, when he led an awkward locker room cheer.
Information from ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard, ESPN.com's Darren Rovell, Michael Wallace and Ethan Sherwood Strauss, ESPNLosAngeles.com's Arash Markazi and The Associated Press was used in this report.
If this guy doesn't want "the Blacks" at his games, why doesn't he buy a Hockey team?
Magic, MJ weigh in on Sterling
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QuoteBasketball legends Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan both voiced harsh criticism in response to racist comments purportedly made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling.
Johnson, speaking Sunday on ABC's playoff pregame show, said he wants NBA commissioner Adam Silver to "come down hard" on Sterling.
The comments that purportedly came from Sterling were made on an audio recording obtained and released by TMZ. In those remarks, the man believed to be Sterling referred to Johnson.
"He shouldn't own a team anymore," said Johnson, who also said Sterling was one of the first people he met after moving to Los Angeles, where he was a Lakers star for many years.
"I had a friendship with him. So for him to then make these comments, or alleged comments, about myself as well as other African-Americans and minorities, there's no place in our society for it. There's no place in our league, because we all get along. We all play with different races of people when you're in sports. That's what makes sports so beautiful."
The man making the comments also urged his girlfriend V. Stiviano not to bring black friends to Clippers games. The NBA and the Clippers are investigating, including whether the male voice on the recording is in fact Sterling's.
The website Deadspin released an extended 15-minute version of the purported conversation Sunday.
In that recording, the woman purported to be Stiviano asks, "Do you know that you have a whole team that's black that plays for you?"
The man, purported to be Sterling, responds: "You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have -- Who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners, that created the league?"
Stiviano's lawyer released a statement Sunday afternoon that stated the tapes carrying the purported voices of Stiviano and Sterling were "legitimate." The quotes came from approximately an hour's worth of recorded conversation, which Stiviano says she did not leak to the media.
Jordan, a five-time NBA MVP as a player and the current owner of the Charlotte Bobcats, released a statement Sunday saying he is outraged and disgusted by the comments.
Jordan said he has two different perspectives on the racist comments -- one as an owner and the other as a former player.
"As an owner, I'm obviously disgusted that a fellow team owner could hold such sickening and offensive views," Jordan said. "I'm confident that Adam Silver will make a full investigation and take appropriate action quickly. As a former player, I'm completely outraged.
"There is no room in the NBA -- or anywhere else -- for the kind of racism and hatred that Mr. Sterling allegedly expressed. I am appalled that this type of ignorance still exists within our country and at the highest levels of our sport. In a league where the majority of players are African-American, we cannot and must not tolerate discrimination at any level."
Anger, frustration and calls for action echoed around the NBA on Saturday after the recording surfaced. Everybody except for Sterling, who has a decades-long history of discrimination and offensive behavior, seemed to have a response.
President Barack Obama, asked to respond at a news conference with Malaysia's prime minister during his visit to the country Sunday, called the reported remarks "incredibly offensive racist statements."
"I don't think I have to interpret those statements for you, they kind of speak for themselves," Obama said. "When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything. You just let them talk. And that's what happened here."
Obama also expressed confidence the NBA would address the situation, and said the United States still wrestles with "the legacy of race and slavery and segregation."
"Obviously, the NBA is a league that is beloved by fans all across the country," Obama said. "It's got an awful lot of African-American players. It's steeped in African-American culture. And, I suspect that the NBA is going to be deeply concerned in resolving this."
Miami Heat star LeBron James asked Silver to take aggressive measures, saying "there is no room for Donald Sterling in our league."
"Obviously, if the reports are true, it's unacceptable in our league," James said. "It doesn't matter, white, black or Hispanic -- all across the races it's unacceptable. As the commissioner of our league, they have to make a stand. They have to be very aggressive with it. I don't know what it will be, but we can't have that in our league."
Silver spoke Saturday night in Memphis, Tenn., before the Grizzlies' game against Oklahoma City, repeating that the league finds the audio tape "disturbing and offensive" and that Sterling agreed to not attend the Clippers' game Sunday at Golden State.
"All members of the NBA family should be afforded due process and a fair opportunity to present their side of any controversy, which is why I'm not yet prepared to discuss any potential sanctions against Donald Sterling," Silver said. "We will, however, move extraordinarily quickly in our investigation."
Silver said the NBA needs to confirm authenticity of the audio tape and interview both Sterling and the woman in the recording. The Clippers will be back in Los Angeles for Game 5 on Tuesday night.
"We do hope to have this wrapped up in the next few days," Silver said.
Clippers coach Doc Rivers said players discussed boycotting Game 4 of their first-round playoff series during a 45-minute team meeting but quickly decided against it.
"I think the biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men, as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group," Rivers said. "Not splinter. Not walk. It's easy to protest. The protest will be in our play."
Clippers president Andy Roeser said in a statement that the team did not know if the tape is legitimate or has been altered. He said the woman on the tape, identified by TMZ as V. Stiviano, "is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would 'get even."
Roeser also said the recording does not reflect Sterling's beliefs. He added that Sterling is "upset and apologizes for sentiments attributed to him" about Johnson, whom he called Sterling's friend.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Clippers stage silent protest
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QuoteOAKLAND, Calif. -- Los Angeles Clippers players staged a silent protest against owner Donald Sterling before Sunday's playoff game, while coach Doc Rivers said he isn't sure what he would have to hear from Sterling to make him want to return next season.
"Don't know yet," Rivers said when asked if there were things he needed to hear from Sterling after an audio tape surfaced of Sterling purportedly making racist remarks to his girlfriend V. Stiviano. "I'm just going to leave it at that."
The Clippers gathered at center court before a 118-97 Game 4 loss in their first-round series against the Golden State Warriors and took off their Clippers' warm-up shirts and left them there. They then warmed up wearing inside-out red shooting shirts that did not display the Clippers name or logo. During the game, players wore black arm or wrist bands and black socks.
During a 45-minute team meeting on Saturday, Clippers player voiced their anger about the tape and discussed various options of protest, including boycotting the game.
"[We] talked as a team about everything," Chris Paul told ESPN. "Tried to keep internal, everything we decided to do has been together as a team."
In the Clippers' locker room before the game, "We are one" was written on the dry-erase board, which was the message players and coaches talked about before taking the court.
"We're going to be one, everything we do, we do it together," Paul said. "Stay together, play ball, we worked hard to be where we are, can't imagine going through this with anyone leading us other than Doc."
Sterling was at Game 3 on Thursday night in Oakland, Calif., and was planning to be at Game 4 on Sunday before speaking with the league and agreeing not to attend as it investigated his comments. Sterling's wife, Rochelle, however, was at Sunday's game and sat courtside across from the Clippers' bench.
"I don't condone those statements and I don't believe in them," Rochelle Sterling told ESPN. "I'm not a racist. Never have been, never will be. The team is the most important thing to my family."
Stiviano's lawyer released a statement Sunday afternoon that stated the tapes carrying the purported voices of Stiviano and Sterling were "legitimate." The quotes came from approximately an hour's worth of recorded conversation that Stiviano says she did not leak to the media.
Rivers said before the game he had not spoken to Sterling and had no current plans to.
"I've not talked to Donald yet," Rivers said. "Really no need right now, at least for me."
Warriors coach Mark Jackson, who, like Rivers, played for the Clippers, said he could not coach or work for the Clippers knowing what he knows now about Sterling.
"I cannot right now," Jackson said. "Knowing the mentality, I cannot. With that being said, let me double back. There are people, successful people, who would answer that question and say no, that's working for folks today."
Rivers said he understood Magic Johnson and many fans saying they would not be attending Clippers' games as long as Sterling is the owner and would understand if the Clippers' 137-game sellout streak was snapped for Tuesday's Game 5 because of the backlash.
"I would understand," Rivers said. "I hope not. We need them. I can tell you that. We need everybody. We play for them. We always have. So we do need them. We're going to need them bad on Tuesday. We're going to need them there. We're going to need them in our corner. But, listen, I get all of it. Like I said to the gentlemen, someone wants to do it another way, I get that, too, and I have no problem with that either."
Quote from: PapaPancho on April 26, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
ADAM SILVER PLEASE FORCE DONALD STERLING TO SELL THE TEAM ... DO IT ... CLIPPERS NATION WILL REJOICE!!
No, you can't force someone to make a business transaction because he's a racist. Having racist world views is not a crime.
Quote from: T-Yes on April 27, 2014, 08:41:22 PM
No, you can't force someone to make a business transaction because he's a racist. Having racist world views is not a crime.
You're right, but he's a detrament to the league's image in which case they have the rest of the owners and such to vote on it and boom, he's gone.
Quote from: T-Yes on April 27, 2014, 08:41:22 PM
No, you can't force someone to make a business transaction because he's a racist. Having racist world views is not a crime.
To make the transaction, no. But the NBA can probably bar him from anything to do with the day to day operations of the Clippers, much like MLB did with Marge Schott and the Reds back in the 90s, until either he sells the team or they lift the ban.
Well yes. The NBA can put sanctions on him to make his involvement with the Clippers minimal, but they can't outright force him to stop owning it.
Magic Johnson is interested in buying the Clippers.
Mark Jackson: Fans should boycott
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10853136/mark-jackson-golden-state-warriors-says-fans-boycott-game-5 (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10853136/mark-jackson-golden-state-warriors-says-fans-boycott-game-5)
QuoteOAKLAND, Calif. -- Golden State Warriors coach Mark Jackson had a clear message as to how fans should react to the racist comments allegedly made by Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling: Boycott Game 5 at the Staples Center.
"If it was me, I wouldn't come to the game," Jackson said Monday. "I believe as fans, the loudest statement they could make as far as fans is to not show up to the game."
Jackson was quick to point out that his advice doesn't apply just to Clippers supporters but to Warriors fans as well.
"As an African-American man that's a fan of the game of basketball and knows its history and knows what's right and what's wrong, I would not come to the game tomorrow, whether I was a Clipper fan or a Warrior fan," he said.
The comments allegedly made by Sterling were to his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, on an audio recording obtained and released by TMZ. The man making the comments urged Stiviano not to bring black friends to Clippers games.
"It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" the man believed to be Sterling says. He continues, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in. You can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games."
"Should the Clippers boycott? They're getting paid to play," Jackson said. "They've got families and bills. This is their job. This is their livelihood. They dreamt their whole life for it. Same thing with us.
"But it's different for me to pay to come see it."
Jackson said his team discussed how it should respond to Sterling's comments and elected to play out the series.
"We talked about it," Jackson said, "and the biggest statement would be playing and pouring our hearts out into something we dreamt about doing and doing it in a way where, no matter what color we are, we do this with class and dignity and integrity, and the evidence would clearly dictate that."
Asked about how the league should address the issue, Jackson deferred to NBA commissioner Adam Silver, who will address the matter during a news conference Tuesday in New York.
"I've got total confidence in the commissioner," Jackson said. "It's an unfortunate position that he's in, but I've got total confidence in how he's going to handle it."
The coach made sure to convey that the issue is broader than just one team or its owner.
"The statements were not made toward, other than maybe a line or two, the Clippers," Jackson said. "The statements made toward all of us -- not just African-Americans -- I mean, all of us should be insulted."
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Rivers: 'I believe he said those things'
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10853370/doc-rivers-los-angeles-clippers-spurns-owner-donald-sterling (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/10853370/doc-rivers-los-angeles-clippers-spurns-owner-donald-sterling)
QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Coach Doc Rivers says he turned down an opportunity to speak to Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling in the wake of the racist remarks allegedly made by Sterling. Rivers also says he believes Sterling made the remarks and that he isn't sure about his future with the team if Sterling remains the owner.
"I was asked, do I need to talk to Donald, and I passed," Rivers said Monday during a nearly 30-minute conference call with reporters. "Quite honestly, I don't think now is the time or the place, for me at least, so I took a pass."
The comments allegedly made by Sterling were to his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, on an audio recording obtained and released by TMZ. The man making the comments urged Stiviano not to bring black friends to "my games."
When Rivers was asked if he thought the voice on the recording was Sterling's, he said, "Yeah, I believe he said those things."
"I still want to make sure it hasn't been doctored, but 'yes' is the answer," he said. "As far as believing those things, I heard what he said. Until someone tells me differently, you usually listen to what people say. I haven't given him his due process. I haven't given him an opportunity to explain himself and quite honestly right now don't want him to, or don't want him to to me. I'll wait for that further judgment."
Rivers said he isn't sure he could continue being the team's coach and executive vice president of player personnel with Sterling as the owner.
"For me, I honestly don't even want to answer that question, because I don't know," Rivers said. "This just happened. ... I don't want to be part of this story. I don't have an answer one way or the other on that. We'll just wait and see."
Rivers canceled practice Monday, the day after the Clippers lost Game 4 of their first-round series against the Golden State Warriors 118-97. He met not only with players but also several other members of the organization at the team's Playa Vista headquarters.
"These last 48 hours or more have been really hard for our players and for everyone," Rivers said. "I would just like to reiterate how disappointed I am in the comments attributed to our owner, and I can't tell you how upset I am and our players are. Today I had a meeting with people in our organization because I just felt they needed to hear a voice as well. When you're around all these people, you realize they are just as upset and embarrassed, and it doesn't reflect who they really are.
"That's the thing I got from all of them. They didn't sign on for this, but they're a part of this. They're upset at this, but they're going to hang in there, and so are we as a group and as a team. I have to do a better job with our guys and get them back. From our fans' standpoint, being here for the past 10 hours since we landed, they've been amazing. We need them. I can tell you that. We need unbelievable support right now from other people, and we're hoping we get that tomorrow."
Rivers said he slept for about 45 minutes before Sunday's Game 4 and canceled Monday's practice because players needed a day off to be with their friends and families, although most of the players came to the facility anyway.
"I felt like they needed to breathe," Rivers said. "They've been inundated with this. They've really had no time with their families. I just think they need time. In most cases we'd be practicing and on the floor today. I'm at the facility, and 95 percent or almost all of the players are here anyway. I'll go down and say hi to them and talk to them and make sure they're in the right place.
"Right now it's more than just basketball. This is a non-basketball decision that I thought I had to make, and I thought it was the right decision. If you get your life better, then you can probably do your work better, and I think they needed to do that."
This isn't the first time Sterling has been involved in racial controversy. In November 2009, he agreed to pay $2.725 million to settle allegations that he discriminated against African-Americans, Hispanics and families with children at several apartment buildings he owns in and around Los Angeles.
Rivers said he wasn't sure why the league didn't punish Sterling then but is confident it will now.
"Clearly there are things that have happened, but I don't know what they could have done in the past, but I know now there seems to be proof that they can do something," Rivers said. "I'm not worried about the past. I'm worried about now and how we can handle this, and I think this is going to be handled the right way.
"I really have a lot of faith in Adam [Silver] and the league, and I think it needs to be handled in the right way. I don't even know what the right way is. I have a hunch, but I don't know."
The league has scheduled a news conference for Tuesday around the same time the Clippers are scheduled to conduct their game-day shootaround.
"This is a very important decision and I hope it's a very strong message, and I believe that it will be," Rivers said. "I'm going to let the league do what it needs to do and then after that the players and myself will have a reaction."
Several players, including Chris Paul, said they weren't sure what fan reaction would be like at Staples Center for Game 5. Rivers was no different, saying he would understand if some did not want to come but that he hoped fans would support the team as they have done all season.
"I wish I could help people more in this in trying to decide what the right thing is, I really do, but I was just sitting here last night thinking, I don't [have] the answer, and I'm just being honest with you," Rivers said. "What I hope is whatever the fans do, it's as one group. Do it. Be one. I don't even know if that's the right thing, but I think it is.
"The fans are in a dilemma as well. We want them to cheer for their players and their team because it's still their team. From what I got from the fans that I talked to, that's how they feel: 'This is my team and these are my players that I'm cheering for, and that's not going to change,' and I hope that continues."
Rivers said the team is considering having one or more players address the crowd before the game.
"I don't know which way we'll go with that," he said. "We don't know the right answer. We want to do right here. We want to make the right decisions here and we're doing our very best to try to do that, and if we feel like that is something that will help our fans, then it will be done. If we feel it's something they don't need, we won't do it."
Rivers was careful not to blame Sunday's loss on the controversy but said "it had an impact, there's no doubt."
"We all have the feeling of, 'What do you do?' and 'What's the right thing to do?'" Rivers said. "Even to the point of should you play or not, all those things have been talked about by all of us, and those thoughts come across. It's tough to compete in a playoff series when you have any of those thoughts.
"I sympathize with my players. They didn't sign up for this yet here they are. They are in the middle of it, and they have to deal with it. What bothers me the most is they're getting attacked in some ways and they didn't do anything wrong."
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Sponsors end Clippers sponsorship
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments)
QuoteThe Chumash Casino, the presenting sponsor of the Los Angeles Clippers, jumped ship Monday along with used car dealership chain CarMax and airline Virgin America as advertisers pondered their partnerships with the team in the wake of racist remarks allegedly made by owner Donald Sterling.
"We've always been proud supporters of the Los Angeles Clippers. However, the recent statements attributed to the Clippers' owner have forced us to reconsider our relationship," Vincent Armenta, tribal chairman of the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians, said in a statement. "We remain supportive of the members of the team and we wish them the very best going forward.
"... We cannot ignore any statement that causes harm or hurts any group. As a result, we're withdrawing our sponsorship of the Clippers organization."
The casino, which has been the Clippers' most visible sponsor for the past four seasons, followed the lead of other companies that decided to part ways with the team earlier Monday.
"CarMax finds the statements attributed to the Clippers' owner completely unacceptable," the company said in a statement through public relations manager Catherine Gryp on Monday. "These views directly conflict with CarMax's culture of respect for all individuals. While we have been a proud Clippers sponsor for nine years and support the team, fans and community, these statements necessitate that CarMax end its sponsorship."
Virgin America said in a statement that it was cutting ties with the team "while we continue to support the fans and the players."
State Farm, Kia Motors America, Red Bull, Lumber Liquidators and Sprint have condemned the remarks and said they will suspend their sponsorship and advertising obligations, closely monitor the situation and assess their options.
Staples Center, the building that is home to the Clippers and Los Angeles Lakers, also issued a statement Monday afternoon.
"We are deeply troubled by these disturbing remarks which go against everything we believe in as an organization. We support the players, the coaches, the rest of the team and their fans and we are committed to providing a safe, secure and welcoming environment for everyone at tomorrow night's NBA playoff game."
The comments allegedly made by Sterling were to his girlfriend, V. Stiviano, on an audio recording obtained and released by TMZ. The man making the comments urged Stiviano not to bring black friends to Clippers games.
"It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people. Do you have to?" the man believed to be Sterling says. He continues, "You can sleep with [black people]. You can bring them in. You can do whatever you want. The little I ask you is not to promote it on that ... and not to bring them to my games."
The NBA and the Clippers are investigating whether the male voice on the recording is Sterling's, and the league will hold a news conference Tuesday in New York to announce "additional details" regarding the matter.
Deadspin released an extended 15-minute version of the conversation Sunday.
In that recording, the woman assumed to be Stiviano asks, "Do you know that you have a whole team that's black that plays for you?"
The man responds, "You just, do I know? I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them? Do I know that I have -- who makes the game? Do I make the game, or do they make the game? Is there 30 owners that created the league?"
Stiviano's lawyer released a statement Sunday afternoon that stated the tapes were legitimate. The quotes came from approximately an hour's worth of recorded conversation, which Stiviano says she did not leak to the media.
Sterling was at Game 3 of the Clippers-Warriors series Thursday night in Oakland, Calif., and was planning to be at Game 4 on Sunday before speaking with the league and agreeing not to attend games as it investigates the comments. Sterling's wife, Rochelle, however, was at Sunday's game and sat courtside across from the Clippers' bench.
"I don't condone those statements, and I don't believe in them," Rochelle Sterling told ESPN. "I'm not a racist. Never have been, never will be. The team is the most important thing to my family."
She expounded on those comments Monday morning, releasing a statement that read: "Our family is devastated by the racist comments made by my estranged husband. My children and I do not share these despicable views or prejudices. We will not let one man's small-mindedness poison the spirit of the fans and accomplishments of the team in the city we love. We are doing everything in our power to stand by and support our Clippers team."
Leon Jenkins, president of the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP, confirmed that Sterling would no longer be presented with a second lifetime achievement award and that any donations made to the organization by Sterling would be returned. He did not say how much money was involved.
Game 5 is Tuesday in Los Angeles. R&B singer Tank, who was scheduled to sing the national anthem, will not participate as a form of protest, TMZ reported Monday.
Darren Rovell of ESPN.com and Arash Markazi of ESPNLosAngeles.com contributed to this report.
DONALD STERLING BANNED FOR LIFE.
DONALD STERLING FINED 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS.
ADAM SILVER WILL PUSH TO FORCE DONALD STERLING TO SELL CLIPPERS.
HALLELUJAH; HOLLA BACK
Not sure a lifetime ban was the most appropriate course of action that the league should have taken.
I mean the guy is garbage, no doubt about that... but he was recorded without his knowledge during a personal conversation he was having.
I think he should just sell the team and just move on...
But obviously Silver is trying to go big with this as it being his first major issue to deal with as commisioner.
I just hope he's prepared to go to court for the next x amount of years with Sterling.
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2014, 02:48:07 PM
Not sure a lifetime ban was the most appropriate course of action that the league should have taken.
I mean the guy is garbage, no doubt about that... but he was recorded without his knowledge during a personal conversation he was having.
I think he should just sell the team and just move on...
But obviously Silver is trying to go big with this as it being his first major issue to deal with as commisioner.
I just hope he's prepared to go to court for the next x amount of years with Sterling.
If you acknowledge that he will fight tooth and nail to keep the team then you have to in the same breath prevent him from running the operation while he fights in the court room.
Quote from: PapaPancho on April 29, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
If you acknowledge that he will fight tooth and nail to keep the team then you have to in the same breath prevent him from running the operation while he fights in the court room.
I don't think he should be anywhere near owning a team...
He should have been voted off the island long before this recording surfaced. This isn't a first time offense.
To add:
But just a week or so ago, everyone was more than happy playing for a man like that. The league was alright with him being an owner.
Then when a recording surfaced which told us everything we already knew... NOW it's a big deal.
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
To add:
But just a week or so ago, everyone was more than happy playing for a man like that. The league was alright with him being an owner.
Then when a recording surfaced which told us everything we already knew... NOW it's a big deal.
Arguing with the wrong man on that point. Been on the fire Donald Sterling trail for years and that was just under basketball decisions. It's one thing being sued in court for actions. It's one thing to settle and pay of money. It's another for your own voice to be recorded and played over loudly.
Even if you are right about he should have been gone long before. That doesn't change the fact that we can be happy that he is gone now.
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2014, 03:04:37 PM
To add:
But just a week or so ago, everyone was more than happy playing for a man like that. The league was alright with him being an owner.
Then when a recording surfaced which told us everything we already knew... NOW it's a big deal.
They knew this YEARS ago. There's been multiple incidents with him as team owner.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 29, 2014, 03:23:39 PM
They knew this YEARS ago. There's been multiple incidents with him as team owner.
Yeah... that's what I said...
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2014, 03:26:24 PM
Yeah... that's what I said...
My question is why was nothing done when there's been a pattern of racist and sexist behavior from Sterling? The NBA screwed up with this big time when they could've had it handled years ago.
Oh yeah, 100% agree.
By biggest beef along with the NBA's lack dealing with this much much earlier is the players, coaches, other owners who were fine with it before, never saying anything... but now that something like this has surfaced in the media comes in... all of sudden...
Actually... listening to Stephen A. Smith now...
He is... like he says... is educating me on the whole thing.
Bomani Jones Talking About The REAL Donald Sterling Problem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bLKe9-Mto#ws)
Bo knows Jon ...
But while we all agree that the NBA should have acted earlier that doesn't make them acting now any less of a correct response.
Most of his other issues were outside of basketball. This was directly related
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 29, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
My question is why was nothing done when there's been a pattern of racist and sexist behavior from Sterling? The NBA screwed up with this big time when they could've had it handled years ago.
For several reasons:
1) It was known in the NBA circle, never got past that aka never happened in this social media mess, at least in a NBA relevant sense.
2) Stern was so entrenched as commissioner there was no reason for him to take a stand
3) the most important one, it never affect the NBA's bottom line. As soon as sponsors starting to pull themselves from the Clippers ALL of the NBA started to lose money.
First let me say that I in no way defend Sterling for his beliefs and statements. They're ancient, reprehensible and vile.
That said.....this is America. The country that says having an organization like the KKK is okay, due to freedom of speech/expression/religion. Being racist is disgusting, but not a crime. Recording a private conversation, without a warrant or consent, isn't admissible in court in California (and may be illegal, although I'm not sure; it is illegal in some states).
This ruling, in my opinion, sets a dangerous precedent to private businesses nationwide.
Quote from: Mike Powers on April 29, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
First let me say that I in no way defend Sterling for his beliefs and statements. They're ancient, reprehensible and vile.
That said.....this is America. The country that says having an organization like the KKK is okay, due to freedom of speech/expression/religion. Being racist is disgusting, but not a crime. Recording a private conversation, without a warrant or consent, isn't admissible in court in California (and may be illegal, although I'm not sure; it is illegal in some states).
This ruling, in my opinion, sets a dangerous precedent to private businesses nationwide.
It was recorded by a private citizen and not a government entity. She was recording her own conversations. Now if you want to talk dangerous precedent talk to Linda Tripp and her recordings of Monica Lewinsky and that was way back in 1998.
Let's not get stuck in another issue and forget the issue at hand.
There are 2 issues. First is Sterling being a piece of shit. Second is a question of legalities.
Quote from: Mike Powers on April 29, 2014, 06:04:29 PM
There are 2 issues. First is Sterling being a piece of shit. Second is a question of legalities.
Federal LawQuoteFederal law permits recording telephone calls and in-person conversations with the consent of at least one of the parties. See 18 U.S.C. 2511(2)(d). This is called a "one-party consent" law. Under a one-party consent law, you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. Furthermore, if you are not a party to the conversation, a "one-party consent" law will allow you to record the conversation or phone call so long as your source consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded.
California State LawQuoteEleven states require the consent of every party to a phone call or conversation in order to make the recording lawful. These "two-party consent" laws have been adopted in California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. (Note: (1) Illinois' two-party consent statute was held unconstitutional in 2014; (2) Hawai'i is in general a one-party state, but requires two-party consent if the recording device is installed in a private place). Although they are referred to as "two-party consent" laws, consent must be obtained from every party to a phone call or conversation if it involves more than two people. In some of these states, it might be enough if all parties to the call or conversation know that you are recording and proceed with the communication anyway, even if they do not voice explicit consent. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on specific states' wiretapping laws.
It's an issue for the courts. Let's be happy with what the NBA did today even if it was late. Better late than never.
This is the NBA. He can sue the crap out of her for recording those comments but he doesn't have much of a leg to stand in when violating the NBA's code of conduct. The owners are well within their right to remove him when the time comes according to the CBA both players and owners agreed upon.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on April 29, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
This is the NBA. He can sue the crap out of her for recording those comments but he doesn't have much of a leg to stand in when violating the NBA's code of conduct. The owners are well within their right to remove him when the time comes according to the CBA both players and owners agreed upon.
He'll lose ownership because of this but I also think he'll win a case against her in court of he goes that route because of the recordings being done without his knowledge or consent.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 29, 2014, 06:51:21 PM
He'll lose ownership because of this but I also think he'll win a case against her in court of he goes that route because of the recordings being done without his knowledge or consent.
Further proof you don't read comments prior to starting yours. Pancho already posted not only federal law but California state law how he's knowledge or consent was not needed.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 29, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Further proof you don't read comments prior to starting yours. Pancho already posted not only federal law but California state law how he's knowledge or consent was not needed.
According to what Pancho posted, Federal law makes the recordings legal, but California requires both parties to consent.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 29, 2014, 06:58:09 PM
Further proof you don't read comments prior to starting yours. Pancho already posted not only federal law but California state law how he's knowledge or consent was not needed.
Lol, I didn't read it? Eff off with that noise. This is what it says.
QuoteEleven states require the consent of every party to a phone call or conversation in order to make the recording lawful. These "two-party consent" laws have been adopted in California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington. (Note: (1) Illinois' two-party consent statute was held unconstitutional in 2014; (2) Hawai'i is in general a one-party state, but requires two-party consent if the recording device is installed in a private place). Although they are referred to as "two-party consent" laws, consent must be obtained from every party to a phone call or conversation if it involves more than two people. In some of these states, it might be enough if all parties to the call or conversation know that you are recording and proceed with the communication anyway, even if they do not voice explicit consent. See the State Law: Recording section of this legal guide for information on specific states' wiretapping laws.
That reads to me like it means both parties must consent which in this case clearly didn't happen.
Quote from: Mike Powers on April 29, 2014, 07:03:48 PM
According to what Pancho posted, Federal law makes the recordings legal, but California requires both parties to consent.
Ninja'd
well then I need to find a reason you post the exact same thing people post before you do :P
On topic, The other thing is that if he sues based on poor reasoning for his bannishment and forced sale, it's not a amendment thing, it's antitrust, which if they throw out the conversation, there's more proof of his racism, which is know even more in the know than it was before.
Quote from: Mike Powers on April 29, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
First let me say that I in no way defend Sterling for his beliefs and statements. They're ancient, reprehensible and vile.
That said.....this is America. The country that says having an organization like the KKK is okay, due to freedom of speech/expression/religion. Being racist is disgusting, but not a crime. Recording a private conversation, without a warrant or consent, isn't admissible in court in California (and may be illegal, although I'm not sure; it is illegal in some states).
This ruling, in my opinion, sets a dangerous precedent to private businesses nationwide.
Mikey brings up a few good points.
Yes, it's unacceptable to make broad generalizations on a race of people. You can't just not like black people because they're black (or any race or creed for that matter). We aren't a society of mouth-breathers, we are a semi-sophisticated people, and blind hatred is just wrong. It's reprehensible in every way and warrants no place in normal society, let alone in a professional business setting.
Thing is, there is no law outlawing personal opinion. However effed up that opinion is, it's still his right to have it. Yes, the NBA is a private entity and can do what it sees fit with its ownership, players, etc. But this is kind of a dangerous precedent. Today you ban Sterling, ok. But what happens if other owners or people associated with the league take stands on hot-button issues? What happens when (all just hypotheticals) Mark Cuban takes a stand supporting late-term abortions? Or Kobe Bryant defends terrorism in the Middle East? Or if Larry Bird opposes gay marriage? Do these guys get banned too?
Look, all I'm saying is, we could be opening the door to a very slippery slope here. I don't disagree with Sterling's punishment per se (as noted by others, he was a real POS to begin with), I just worry about what it will lead to in the future.
Quote from: JackHondo on April 29, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
Mikey brings up a few good points.
Yes, it's unacceptable to make broad generalizations on a race of people. You can't just not like black people because they're black (or any race or creed for that matter). We aren't a society of mouth-breathers, we are a semi-sophisticated people, and blind hatred is just wrong. It's reprehensible in every way and warrants no place in normal society, let alone in a professional business setting.
Thing is, there is no law outlawing personal opinion. However effed up that opinion is, it's still his right to have it. Yes, the NBA is a private entity and can do what it sees fit with its ownership, players, etc. But this is kind of a dangerous precedent. Today you ban Sterling, ok. But what happens if other owners or people associated with the league take stands on hot-button issues? What happens when (all just hypotheticals) Mark Cuban takes a stand supporting late-term abortions? Or Kobe Bryant defends terrorism in the Middle East? Or if Larry Bird opposes gay marriage? Do these guys get banned too?
Look, all I'm saying is, we could be opening the door to a very slippery slope here. I don't disagree with Sterling's punishment per se (as noted by others, he was a real POS to begin with), I just worry about what it will lead to in the future.
They will all be tried in the court of public opinion. Welcome to leading a public life.
The abortion debate doesn't compute here. It doesn't effect 75% of the league. In terms of morality, racism was the worst possible thing that could have happened here.
Forget the examples. They were just that: examples.
What I'm saying is, Have they set a precedent now to where if someone has an unpopular opinion, can they just ban them from the game? And I think they may have.
He didn't get fired because he's racist. he didn't get fired because he's a piece of shit.
He got fired because he's a racist that represents the NBA. He got fired because he's a piece of shit that has a ton of say in the matters of the league, which made up mainly by the target of his racism.
When he bought a team he agreed to follow by-laws created by the NBA, by-laws that have evolved as the NBA has, by-laws he's agreed to.
There are things that are expected him as an owner, the same way things are expected as business owners, workers, and the like. The NBA has the right, as long as 3/4th majority of the owners vote in favor, to remove him from their club. Just like they have the right to punish a player for conduct. It's not a slippy slope.
We're also forgetting that there is more than this one time he has been accused of racism, the problem with this one time, it brought light to the others so now it's not a one time thing. If Cuban were to stand against long term abortion or those other examples, would be the first time and no doubt the owner would come out immediately to apologize.
NINJA: Edit, No hondo there's examples that are relevant and there are yours. If Sterling came out against abortion he wouldn't have been fined or banned. You know why, it wouldn't have been a 1024 on the Public Richter scale.
Quote from: JackHondo on April 29, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
Forget the examples. They were just that: examples.
What I'm saying is, Have they set a precedent now to where if someone has an unpopular opinion, can they just ban them from the game? And I think they may have.
It's an example but is a major hole in the argument. You can't stand out as a CEO of a company, publicly or privately, and basically call your employees less human than the others. You wouldn't maintain your position in any circumstance when you degrade the majority of your workforce.
It's completely different than speaking out against a political opinion and such.
Two completely different arguments.
Quote from: JackHondo on April 29, 2014, 08:19:44 PM
Forget the examples. They were just that: examples.
What I'm saying is, Have they set a precedent now to where if someone has an unpopular opinion, can they just ban them from the game? And I think they may have.
Having the freedom to have an opinion or unpopular viewpoint does not equal being free from the consequences of having that opinion. Sponsors were pulling out; the free market had decided that Donald Sterling was not something worth investing in. Public opinion had crucified him. This wasn't the unilateral decision of one man or one organization. Companies and People rose up to speak out against him. This was a very unique situation.
The Thunder just dont get it. Westbrook should not be shooting 31 times in a game.
I caught the Bulls elimination game last night and can I just say Charles Barkley comes across like a fucking idiot when it comes to sensitive topics like this. The problem when you have a race issue like this is that as a white male you are made to feel that you are also part of the problem because someone of the same gender and race is a racist. Its that same thing where if I dont give a fuck about this...which frankly I dont really...I am potentially branded as a racist/bigot or if I do give a fuck about this I am told 'well I couldnt possibly truly understand because I am not a minority'...
Racism can effect people in a variety of ways, you dont have to just be black or a minority to feel the implications of what has happened here, but the way Barkley came across during half time it could only possibly be minorities who feel effected by this. That pisses me off, not that I actually give a shit about Sterling and what he said, but the fact that people like Barkley don't help this cause by making it an 'us and them' thing.
When I was growing up, Isiah Thomas agreed with a statement by Dennis Rodman which implied about Larry Bird would be just another good guy if he was black. Why are we not sitting here questioning whethe Isiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman should be banned from the league? To me thats an offence remark to Larry Bird based on his race.
People have heard the tapes of a rich old white man who is what 80 years old? We have no idea of the context, the legitimacy of the tapes and a whole host of other factors and yet the world has handed out their sentence straight off the bat.
Sorry, I will be in the minority here (pardon the pun) but I think this is a complete load of bollocks.
The man admitted to the commissioner that it was him. That pretty much throws any doubt out the window.
And yes what rodman said about bird is racist but 1) it was said over 20 year ago and 2) there's "no such thing as racism against whites" in the eyes of the media otherwise Larry Johnson would be crucified for his reaction to Sterling. Racism against whites doesn't bring eyes and ears like racism against minorities and it never will because there is no such thing as black or brown guilt to be taken advantage of.
Quote from: JustinP on April 30, 2014, 05:33:03 AM
The Thunder just dont get it. Westbrook should not be shooting 31 times in a game.
That def was not the problem in last nights game.
It will always be their problem. Like Ive always said, the Thunder will never win with both of them on the same team.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on April 30, 2014, 06:01:26 AM
I caught the Bulls elimination game last night and can I just say Charles Barkley comes across like a fucking idiot when it comes to sensitive topics like this. The problem when you have a race issue like this is that as a white male you are made to feel that you are also part of the problem because someone of the same gender and race is a racist. Its that same thing where if I dont give a fuck about this...which frankly I dont really...I am potentially branded as a racist/bigot or if I do give a fuck about this I am told 'well I couldnt possibly truly understand because I am not a minority'...
Racism can effect people in a variety of ways, you dont have to just be black or a minority to feel the implications of what has happened here, but the way Barkley came across during half time it could only possibly be minorities who feel effected by this. That pisses me off, not that I actually give a shit about Sterling and what he said, but the fact that people like Barkley don't help this cause by making it an 'us and them' thing.
When I was growing up, Isiah Thomas agreed with a statement by Dennis Rodman which implied about Larry Bird would be just another good guy if he was black. Why are we not sitting here questioning whethe Isiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman should be banned from the league? To me thats an offence remark to Larry Bird based on his race.
People have heard the tapes of a rich old white man who is what 80 years old? We have no idea of the context, the legitimacy of the tapes and a whole host of other factors and yet the world has handed out their sentence straight off the bat.
Sorry, I will be in the minority here (pardon the pun) but I think this is a complete load of bollocks.
Does it matter what context he said it in? What he said was blatant and without regard.
While I believe use the racist card erroneously at times when things dont go their way this is clearly an "us vs. them" situation. Its ok for minorities to make you money but you dont want them to come to your games? Furthermore, as a white man married to a black woman I witness first-hand things thst create that mentality. White people stare and snarl at us when we are together. We've had a waitress refuse to serve us in a restaurant. When Im with my daughter she is called beautiful but when her mother comes into the picture that beautiful girlgets shunned, snarled at, and is no longer worth talking to as people hurry off. Ive been called a "n***** lover" numerous times. While I understand this does not hold true for most white people it is actions like these that contribute to the "us vs. them" mentality."
In regards to your Larry Bird statement you can thank the absence of 24 hour news and social media for the lack of attention the comment received. Plus if Bird was truly offended he would/should have made a fuss about it .
Social media has a HUGE effect on these sort of topics.
Quote from: JustinP on April 30, 2014, 07:24:04 AM
It will always be their problem. Like Ive always said, the Thunder will never win with both of them on the same team.
Grizzlies have out scored them by 62 points in the paint during the series and have held Durant and Westbrook to 50 out of 153 shooting from the field. Add in winning the turnover battle last night and they've been the better team in this series to this point.
Do people not remember how HUGE it was when Isiah said that? Larry Bird had to hold a press conference WITH Isiah and even that wasnt enough to push back the hate.
Larry Johnson SHOULD be crucified as that idiot wanted to bring back the negro leagues. Even the most staunch defender of seperate but equal was Malcolm X and he changed his tune towards the end of his life.
Whether its coming from black white brown any generalizations about a group of people based on one characteristic is dumb to voice that publicly.
Sources: Mike D'Antoni steps down
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10864513/mike-dantoni-resigns-coach-los-angeles-lakers (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10864513/mike-dantoni-resigns-coach-los-angeles-lakers)
QuoteMike D'Antoni has resigned as coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, according to sources.
Mike D'Antoni coached the Lakers to a 27-55 record this season, the worst 82-game mark in franchise history.
During conversations with the Lakers over the past two weeks, D'Antoni had asked them to pick up the team option on the fourth year of his contract, sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com.
D'Antoni had one year remaining on his deal at $4 million. The Lakers held a $4 million team option on him for 2015-16.
Los Angeles went 27-55 this season, its first full campaign under D'Antoni. The Lakers posted the second-worst winning percentage (.329) in team history, the worst 82-game record in team history and their lowest win total since the franchise relocated from Minnesota.
D'Antoni, 62, has posted a 67-87 record since being hired by the Lakers early in the 2012-13 season to replace Mike Brown.
More than one Los Angeles team is celebrating now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damian Lillard has arrived. Unreal clutch shot to win the series for the Blazers.
Damian Lillard's Amazing 3 Lifts Blazers Over Rockets: Taco Bell Buzzer Beater (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mejFtEY5faU#ws)
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 03, 2014, 01:43:15 AM
Damian Lillard has arrived. Unreal clutch shot to win the series for the Blazers.
He was rookie of the year last season and an all-star this season. He's been hitting clutch shots since he got to the NBA. I'd say he arrived a LONG time ago.
DAT SHOT
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2014, 07:20:46 AM
He was rookie of the year last season and an all-star this season. He's been hitting clutch shots since he got to the NBA. I'd say he arrived a LONG time ago.
This is the playoffs. You need playoff success to be legit and he's got that now. That was the only thing he was missing.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 03, 2014, 10:56:52 AM
This is the playoffs. You need playoff success to be legit and he's got that now. That was the only thing he was missing.
So Dirk wasn't legit until he won the title?
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on May 03, 2014, 11:33:29 AM
So Dirk wasn't legit until he won the title?
Don't even start. Dirk was in the league years before that wheareas Lillard's only been in his second season. There's a difference.
I hardly say hes arrived either. Not saying he cant get there but eight now hes still on Brandon Roys level.
Lillard is better than Brandon Roy. He is a legit all around player and top 5 point guard. He has talent around him that can score so he doesnt have to score a ton of points but he can if needed to.
Quote from: JustinP on May 03, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
Lillard is better than Brandon Roy. He is a legit all around player and top 5 point guard. He has talent around him that can score so he doesnt have to score a ton of points but he can if needed to.
I agree with this. Lillard is way better than Roy and the Blazers have a solid starting five including the underrated Wesley Matthews plus some decent bench players.
Quote from: JustinP on May 03, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
Lillard is better than Brandon Roy. He is a legit all around player and top 5 point guard. He has talent around him that can score so he doesnt have to score a ton of points but he can if needed to.
That is way unfair to say. Roy was on his way to being one of the best in the NBA, if it wasn't for his knee.
Lillard is gonna be a star, no question about it. I see a lot of the same things in him that I saw in Roy, so the Blazers have been damn lucky in that regard.
I think if Roy was still able to play today, there'd be no question who the better player is. And in case you forgot, Roy also hit a buzzer beater on the Rockets, albeit, not in the playoffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkHgi7Pr8M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNkHgi7Pr8M)
So wait...Lillard can't have arrived because he didn't have any playoff success...and that one shot means he's arrived? Even though his team could still get bounced in the next round (meaning no playoff success...)?
Quote from: C.J. Gates on May 03, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
So wait...Lillard can't have arrived because he didn't have any playoff success...and that one shot means he's arrived? Even though his team could still get bounced in the next round (meaning no playoff success...)?
#Franchiselogic
Quote from: C.J. Gates on May 03, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
So wait...Lillard can't have arrived because he didn't have any playoff success...and that one shot means he's arrived? Even though his team could still get bounced in the next round (meaning no playoff success...)?
That's not the only clutch shot he made in that game.
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
#Franchiselogic
Quit trolling.
Glad I found this. Huge NBA fan. Seeing all the Lillard love, which is probably deserved with the big 3 last night. However, I'm curious, has people put him above Aldridge? In my opinion the Blazers are Aldridge's team, and he is proving he is the best 4 the game has to offer right now (not including LeBron who plays a 3/4 depending on match-ups).
Quote from: thecolonel on May 03, 2014, 04:06:11 PM
Glad I found this. Huge NBA fan. Seeing all the Lillard love, which is probably deserved with the big 3 last night. However, I'm curious, has people put him above Aldridge? In my opinion the Blazers are Aldridge's team, and he is proving he is the best 4 the game has to offer right now (not including LeBron who plays a 3/4 depending on match-ups).
No, Portland is very much LA's team.
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
It's not trolling when it's true.
Yeah it is trolling given how you posted it. It was done to get a reaction, plain and simple.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 03, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
Yeah it is trolling given how you posted it. It was done to get a reaction, plain and simple.
Pot... kettle.... black....
Good. Glad to hear it hasn't gotten too overboard with the Lillard love. I think he is awesome, but just not yet above Aldridge. With that said, what do you guys think Houston is missing going forward? What should they try and add to their team?
Quote from: thecolonel on May 03, 2014, 04:19:28 PM
Good. Glad to hear it hasn't gotten too overboard with the Lillard love. I think he is awesome, but just not yet above Aldridge. With that said, what do you guys think Houston is missing going forward? What should they try and add to their team?
I don't think they are missing anything per say.
The West is just a tough conference with a lot of really good teams.
But they could use a veteran on the team. Someone like a Pierce or Garnett would be a nice addition to this team.
Quote from: Jon on May 03, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
I don't think they are missing anything per say.
The West is just a tough conference with a lot of really good teams.
But they could use a veteran on the team. Someone like a Pierce or Garnett would be a nice addition to this team.
Interesting, do you not think Kevin McHale or Hakeem Olajuwon's involvement on the team simulates for them the "NBA veteran" voice?
They're missing perimeter defense and consistent play. People talk about how Westbrook and Stephenson are detriments to their own teams, but Harden is even more because he plays no defense and if he's not scoring, Houston isn't winning.
Houston, great regular season team, poor playoff team the way they are built right now. Teams play defense and the game goes into the half court.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on May 03, 2014, 04:39:23 PM
They're missing perimeter defense and consistent play. People talk about how Westbrook and Stephenson are detriments to their own teams, but Harden is even more because he plays no defense and if he's not scoring, Houston isn't winning.
Houston, great regular season team, poor playoff team the way they are built right now. Teams play defense and the game goes into the half court.
Completely agree with you on the lack of defense by Houston as a whole. Dwight, Asik, and Beverley are all I saw playing any great D the whole series (honor mention to Parsons for at least trying at times). Besides Patrick Beverley, Houston lacks a defensive perimeter player from what I saw. Also agree with you that Portland exposed Harden's lack of defense in games. I don't think I ever noticed it when he played with OKC as much as I did this series with Wesley Matthews posting him up like it is nothing. I find it interesting that you mentioned Stephenson and Westbrook. With the Atlanta series exposing Luis Scola for his lack of defensive capabilities and terrible defensive spacing of the whole team, do you think it also exposed Stephenson's lack of defensive IQ? Atlanta keeping the screen & pops (and off-ball screens) and switching who is coming off of them really seems to confuse Stephenson especially with his man (usually Korver, Teague, or Williams).
Found this. It's the NBA Stats Player Tracker of Defensive Impact for the Playoffs. Can also be filtered to show the Regular Season as well.
http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingDefense.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25 (http://stats.nba.com/playerTrackingDefense.html?pageNo=1&rowsPerPage=25)
Interesting. Stats seemed skewed as Perry Jones, Nando De Colo, and others similar top the FG% at the Rim (0%). Also find the stat interesting to calculate (as they never gave their measure to doing so). Nonetheless, cool find. I find Harden's 21.4% with .5 FGM and 2.3 FGA stat more interesting. Tells me the stats calculate probably only the in the paint defense which skews specifically to smaller (better looking) defensive percentages for guards as most don't follow their man and/or contest in the paint.
Still very cool find Franchise. I didn't know it existed outside of Advanced Stats in Basketball Reference, or the calculated defense that was on Synergy Scouting.
Lillard is not a top 5 PG ... that kool aid be strong.
If he's not he's close. He's definitely in the mix though but he's more of a scoring PG which I think lowers his ranking slightly as it relates to that. Here are the point guard stars from the season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/double-doubles/sort/doubleDouble/seasontype/2/position/point-guards (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/double-doubles/sort/doubleDouble/seasontype/2/position/point-guards)
Quote from: PapaPancho on May 04, 2014, 03:17:00 AM
Lillard is not a top 5 PG ... that kool aid be strong.
Name me 5 that are better.
Quote from: JustinP on May 04, 2014, 08:49:43 AM
Name me 5 that are better.
Chris Paul, Derek Rose, John Wall, Stephen Curry, Kyrie Irving
Rose has talent, however until he can stay healthy, I personally wouldn't list him in my top 5...
Quote from: Jon on May 04, 2014, 09:07:35 AM
Chris Paul, Derek Rose, John Wall, Stephen Curry, Kyrie Irving
Chris Paul - I agree with.
Derek Rose - A healthy Rose is the best point guard in the NBA, so I agree. I just hope he can comeback at his prior level of play.
Stephen Curry - I'm a huge Curry fan, but I don't let that cloud my judgment. Sure, Curry is a premier scorer, but he averages almost 4 turnovers a game and at times turns the ball over at alarming rates.
John Wall - I think Wall is too inconsistent. The thing about Wall is he has the chance to be GREAT. He has all the tools and talent to be a superstar, but he is just too inconsistent. He disappears for games at a time and tends to catch the turnover bug as well.
Kyrie Irving - I believe Irving and Lillard are on the same level.
Not to mention Lillard has proven to be more durable than everyone on the list. Granted he's only been in the league two years, but he's played all games in both seasons.
And someone is poised to ask, so my top 5 PGs (healthy) are:
Derek Rose
Chris Paul
Rajon Rondo
Tony Parker
Damien Lillard
Quote from: C.J. Gates on May 04, 2014, 09:34:14 AM
Rose has talent, however until he can stay healthy, I personally wouldn't list him in my top 5...
He was a former NBA MVP. Hurt or not, still a Top 5 PG. He'll be back next season and I hope he can stay healthy, because he is incredible to watch.
And I would also list Westbrook and Lowry and Rondo (who also needs to stay healthy) in front of Lillard as well.
EDIT: Meh, Parker is a bit older now to be in the Top 5. He does his job well, but is not the player he used to be. Where Lillard lacks is true passing and defense. Curry might turnover the ball 1-2 times more, but he shoots better, passes better, and defends better. John Wall easily better than Lillard... Wall has the best court vision outside of Chris Paul in the NBA. And Kyrie Irving is not on the same as Lillard... once again... I think Kyrie is a better shooter, passer, defender.
I would put Lillard on the same level as Isiah Thomas of Sacramento. Both good scorers, marginal passers, who lack good transition defense.
But I think Lillard has a ton of potential and if he keeps getting better at the things he doesn't do very well, he could turn into a Top 5 PG in a few years time.
Did you really just put Lillard on the same level as Isiah Thomas??
I agree with you on Wall about the court vision, but like I said, he is too inconsistent and aggravates me because Wall could seriously be a top 3 player in the league.
Quote from: JustinP on May 04, 2014, 09:55:00 AM
Did you really just put Lillard on the same level as Isiah Thomas??
I agree with you on Wall about the court vision, but like I said, he is too inconsistent and aggravates me because Wall could seriously be a top 3 player in the league.
Hey, you tried putting him on Kyrie Irving's level. So I had to pick the player he closer resembles. Although I like Lillard far better than Thomas. But their playing styles are pretty comparable.
And how can you justify putting Rondo in your Top 5 with 3.3 turnover/pg but not Curry because he has 3.8 turnover/pg?
It's easily Paul then Curry right now in the NBA with Rose sitting injured.
If you want to use nothing but stats to compare the players then yes, Lillard and Irving are on the same level. They both averaged 20 points and 6 assists.
A healthy Rondo is great. Sure, he can't shoot, but his court vision is is top 3, he is not only the best defensive point guard, but one of the best defenders in the league. He is the best overall passer and can get to the basket at will. Rondo is the ultimate game and team manager, which is what you need and want out of a point guard.
Not to mention, Rondo is a great rebounder as well.
Quote from: JustinP on May 04, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
If you want to use nothing but stats to compare the players then yes, Lillard and Irving are on the same level. They both averaged 20 points and 6 assists.
A healthy Rondo is great. Sure, he can't shoot, but his court vision is is top 3, he is not only the best defensive point guard, but one of the best defenders in the league. He is the best overall passer and can get to the basket at will. Rondo is the ultimate game and team manager, which is what you need and want out of a point guard.
I'm not using stats, I'm using what I see when I watch these players play. The stats speak for themselves.
Rondo is a fine PG, a few years ago he was easily in the Top 5, but he lost his passion for playing and has a shit attitude. When he wants to play, he is really fun to watch. But BTW, I think Paul is a better defender/passer than him, but that's just me.
But he turns the ball over a lot as well. That is what I'm getting at. Your sole reason for leaving Curry, who is IMO, far better than Rondo, off your list is because he turns the ball over. I mean you put LILLARD and PARKER over Curry... thats just crazy talk.
My Top 10 PG's in the NBA
1. Chris Paul
2. Derek Rose
3. Stephen Curry
4. John Wall
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Russell Westbrook
7. Rajon Rondo
8. Kyle Lowry
9. Damian Lillard
10. Tony Parker
Chris Paul a better defender than Rondo? Come on, Jon. Rondo is a top 7 defender in the league before the ACL injury. Once he gets this offseason under him to get back fully healthy he will be back to his normal self.
If I was going off of just scoring, yes Curry would easily be better than Rondo. But Curry isn't as smart with the ball as Rondo is, not even the same league as a defender, passer, or rebounder.
1. Paul (Not a question)
2. Westbrook
3. Parker
4. Curry
5. Rondo
Sorry, not putting a guy who hasn't played in two years in my top five, regardless of how good he could be. Westbrook is just as good as Rondo at rebounding, each get around 10% of the rebounds available to them when they're on the floor, Westbrook is just as good if not better at defense while Rondo has teh edge in passing, but I'll take Wesbrook (and as well as Parker and Curry) before rondo simply because they can pass AND score. Rondo has never averaged more than 14 points per game.
Quote from: JustinP on May 04, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
Chris Paul a better defender than Rondo? Come on, Jon. Rondo is a top 7 defender in the league before the ACL injury. Once he gets this offseason under him to get back fully healthy he will be back to his normal self.
If I was going off of just scoring, yes Curry would easily be better than Rondo. But Curry isn't as smart with the ball as Rondo is, not even the same league as a defender, passer, or rebounder.
But you had Lillard in your top 5. We are not arguing Rondo per say ( because thats an entirely different argument) ... you had Lillard over Curry. I see no justification in that at all.
Lillard is a back end of the top 10 in PG's. You said list 5... I list 8 better than him right now. And you could argue him over 1 or 2 of those guys... but he is def not a Top 5 right now.
1. Paul
2. Curry
3. Westbrook
4. Wall
5. Irving
6. Lowry
7. Lillard
8. Rondo
9. Parker
10. Lawson
Put Lawson on the list since his stats are comparable to Lowry and Lillard. Rondo and Parker I had lower due to injuries. Rest I think is pretty accurate.
Quote from: Jon on May 04, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
But you had Lillard in your top 5. We are not arguing Rondo per say ( because thats an entirely different argument) ... you had Lillard over Curry. I see no justification in that at all.
Lillard is a back end of the top 10 in PG's. You said list 5... I list 8 better than him right now. And you could argue him over 1 or 2 of those guys... but he is def not a Top 5 right now.
Curry is the better scorer, hands down. But Curry still turns the ball over too much and is not as smart with the ball as Lillard. I'd argue that Lillard is the better defender, but honestly they both don't play that great of defense.
Quote from: JustinP on May 04, 2014, 11:37:29 AM
Curry is the better scorer, hands down. But Curry still turns the ball over too much and is not as smart with the ball as Lillard. I'd argue that Lillard is the better defender, but honestly they both don't play that great of defense.
Curry is the better scorer, shooter, passer, rebounder, plays better defense.
The only thing Lillard does better is protect the basketball, but the Blazers don't play the same uptempo game the Warriors do.
To only have Lillard ahead of Curry for that only reason is crazy talk bro.
You wouldn't get ONE NBA expert to agree with you.
Refs have been complete garbage in this Raps/Nets game.
Lillard and Irving are the same exact player. Swap them both for their teams and is their that big of a difference?
Clips, Warriors argue after game
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QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Apparently not even a Game 7 was enough to end the bitter rivalry between the Clippers and Golden State Warriors this season.
Shortly after the Clippers defeated the Warriors, 126-121, to advance to the Western Conference semifinals, the two teams continued their feud in the tunnel connecting both the home and visitor's locker room at Staples Center.
Multiple sources who were present for the altercation indicate the incident began when Warriors players heard someone they believed to be a Clippers assistant coach loudly saying how quiet it was in the Warriors' locker room. When Warriors players came out, there were no coaches present but a shouting match between players from both teams soon ensued in the tunnel. It never got physical but it was heated enough that police and security had to be called to calm the situation, sources told ESPN.
"I was sitting in my office with the family," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said. "I heard about it. From from I've heard it was much to do about nothing. Unfortunately the way the arena is built, from our training room, the door opens and their locker room is through that and I guess they can hear guys being excited so that was about it. From there I guess there were guys chirping in the hallway in between the two locker rooms.
"You can't see that from the hallway [the media] goes through but no one came to [blows]. I found out about it after the fact. Besides people talking loud at each other, nothing happened."
One source described it as a "pretty serious" shouting match. The Clippers had to call in extra security to keep a Warriors' player from entering their locker room, the source told ESPN.
Warriors center Marreese Speights was said to be among main participants in the incident, according to sources, while Stephen Curry, Steve Blake and Clippers forward Glen Davis were also involved.
The rivalry between the Clippers and Warriors heated up this season when the Clippers refused to have chapel service with the Warriors before their home opener this season. The two engaged in a physical game on Christmas Day which included a couple of fights and two ejections. And after their last game of the regular season, Golden State's Jermaine O'Neal confronted Blake Griffin in the hallway.
"Both teams don't care much for each other," Chris Paul said earlier this season. "It is what it is."
ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne contributed to this report.
According to PER ratings, the best PG's this season were:
Paul
Westbrook
Curry
Isaiah Thomas
(Derrick Rose would fit somewhere here, according to his career PER)
Lowry
Irving
Conley
Bledsoe
Wall
Lawson
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Mark Jackson fired by Warriors
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QuoteThe Golden State Warriors have fired coach Mark Jackson, the team announced Tuesday.
The move comes after the Warriors were eliminated in the opening round of the playoffs, falling to the Los Angeles Clippers in Game 7 on Saturday night.
The Warriors were 121-109 during Jackson's three-year tenure.
"It's never easy to make a decision of this nature," general manager Bob Myers said in a statement. "Mark has accomplished many good things during his three years with the organization, including his role in helping elevate this team into a better position than it was when he arrived nearly 36 months ago. We're appreciative of his dedication and commitment since his arrival and are extremely grateful for his contributions. However, as an organization, we simply feel it's best to move in a different direction at this time."
Added CEO Joe Lacob: "Mark Jackson has had a big impact on the improvement of our team and the success that we've had over the last couple of years. Nonetheless, we must make some difficult decisions in our day-to-day operations of the club and this would certainly qualify as one of those examples. We wish Mark the best of luck in his future endeavors and thank him for his contributions over the last three years."
Is Jack Hondo running the Warriors?
Kevin Durant wins first MVP award
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QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY -- Kevin Durant has plenty of scoring titles. Now he has an MVP trophy to go with them.
The Oklahoma City Thunder star won the NBA's top individual honor Tuesday, grabbing 119 first-place votes. Miami's LeBron James, who'd won the last two MVP awards and four of the previous five, finished a distant second with six first-place votes.
2014 NBA MVP Voting
Kevin Durant won his first NBA MVP Award in a landslide Tuesday, garnering 113 more first-place votes than LeBron James, who finished a distant second.
Player 1sts Points
Kevin Durant, OKC 119 1,232
LeBron James, MIA 6 891
Blake Griffin, LAC 0 434
Joakim Noah, CHI 0 322
Others receiving votes: James Harden, HOU, 85; Stephen Curry, GSW, 66; Chris Paul, LAC, 45; Al Jefferson, CHA, 34; Paul George, IND, 33; LaMarcus Aldridge, POR, 26; Kevin Love, MIN, 25; Tim Duncan, SAS, 21; Tony Parker, SAS, 21; Dirk Nowitzki, DAL, 7; Carmelo Anthony, NYK, 4; Goran Dragic, PHO, 3; Mike Conley, MEM, 1
Blake Griffin was third, and Joakim Noah and James Harden rounded out the top five.
Durant, a 6-foot-9 forward, won his fourth scoring crown in five years this season by averaging 32 points per game. He helped the Thunder finish the regular season with a 59-23 record, second best in the league, despite playing much of the season without three-time All-Star Russell Westbrook by his side because of a nagging knee injury.
Durant becomes the first player to win both the scoring title and the MVP award in the same season since Allen Iverson did it in 2000-01.
"He's been the most consistent guy all season long," Westbrook said at the end of the regular season. "He's done a great job of leading us to where we are now. He's basically put himself in front of everybody else in the league and shown that he's the best player in the world."
James agreed, saying Monday: "Much respect to him and he deserves it. He had a big-time MVP season."
With Tuesday's voting results, Durant and James set an NBA mark, finishing in the top two in MVP voting for the fourth time, surpassing Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson, who were in the top two on three occasions.
Durant's run of 41 consecutive games this season with at least 25 points was the third-longest streak in NBA history. In all, he scored at least 40 points 14 times. He also averaged 7.4 rebounds and a career-high 5.5 assists while shooting 50 percent from the field.
"He does everything," New Orleans coach Monty Williams said. "You just can't recall a guy that long who can do what he does every single night. Shooting from 30 feet on the floor with confidence and driving to the basket and dunking on guys, and then go post up, and on top of it, a great teammate and good kid."
Durant moved to the front of the pack while Westbrook was out following his most recent knee surgery. Durant averaged 35 points and 6.3 assists during that stretch as the Thunder went 20-7 and remained among the league's elite.
Westbrook's injury gave Durant an opportunity to use his improving skills as a playmaker.
"I've always been a player that was excited for my teammates' success," Durant said. "Not just mine, but my teammates' as well. Wanting to see them do well translates to my game, which is wanting to pass the ball and seeing my teammates reap the benefits."
Teammates and opponents say Durant became a more complete player this season. They praised him for improving his court vision, consistently making the extra pass and moving more efficiently without the ball.
"What he does is tough to do," teammate Nick Collison said. "I think we take it for granted. To be able to stay on for long periods of time -- have to cut hard, catch the ball in the right spot and defend on the other end -- is tough to do. To be able to show that shows that he has an edge to him. He doesn't take a night off."
Durant's slight build could be considered one of his few weaknesses, but he has especially improved in dealing with opponents who try to push him around.
"People have been trying to do that since he's been in the league, and obviously, he's just gotten better every season, so I don't really think that matters with him," Westbrook said. "He just takes on the challenge. When people try to be physical, he takes on the challenge and becomes more aggressive."
Though Durant's consistency stood out this season, he had several exceptional games. He scored 48 points on Jan. 4 at Minnesota, then scored 48 again two games later at Utah. He scored a career-high 54 points in a home win against Golden State on Jan. 17 and two games later scored 46 at home in a win against Portland. Two games after that, he had a triple-double -- 32 points, 14 rebounds and 10 assists -- in a win at Philadelphia, and he followed that with 41 points in a win over Atlanta. He scored 51 points at Toronto on March 21 in a staggering 53 minutes and hit the game-winning 3-pointer with 1.7 seconds left in double-overtime.
He capped it off in the season finale by scoring 21 of his 42 points in the fourth quarter against Detroit and winning the game with a dunk with 16.5 seconds left. The Thunder overcame a 10-point deficit in the quarter to clinch the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference playoffs.
Information from ESPN.com's Marc Stein, ESPN Stats & Information and The Associated Press was used in this report.
Chris Paul was INSANE last night.
V. StivianoInvestigated for Allegedly Extorting Donald Sterling Over Recordings
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QuoteV. Stiviano is under criminal investigation for allegedly extorting Donald Sterling by demanding money in return for keeping more audio recordings secret ... TMZ Sports has learned.
Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... a senior investigator for the L.A. County D.A.'s Bureau of Investigation contacted Shelly Sterling Tuesday ... asking for an interview in connection with the extortion investigation.
Donald Sterling gave an interview last week ... telling a magazine, "I wish I had just paid her off."
TMZ Sports first reported ... Stiviano claims to have 100 plus hours of recordings of conversations between her and Sterling.
Stiviano's people told us a week ago ... Sterling called her after we posted the audio ... asking her, "How can we make this go away?" We have since learned it was NOT Sterling who initiated the call -- it was Stiviano.
And we've learned the investigation is also focusing on whether Stiviano illegally recorded Sterling ... recording private conversations without the consent of all parties is a crime in California.
We contacted Stiviano's law firm about the extortion investigation, and we're told, "We have no knowledge and therefore no comment."
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Quote from: Jon on May 04, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
I'm not using stats, I'm using what I see when I watch these players play. The stats speak for themselves.
Rondo is a fine PG, a few years ago he was easily in the Top 5, but he lost his passion for playing and has a shit attitude. When he wants to play, he is really fun to watch. But BTW, I think Paul is a better defender/passer than him, but that's just me.
But he turns the ball over a lot as well. That is what I'm getting at. Your sole reason for leaving Curry, who is IMO, far better than Rondo, off your list is because he turns the ball over. I mean you put LILLARD and PARKER over Curry... thats just crazy talk.
My Top 10 PG's in the NBA
1. Chris Paul
2. Derek Rose (do retired players count?) heard Sterling might be back before Rose.
3. Stephen Curry
4. John Wall
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Russell Westbrook
7. Rajon Rondo
8. Kyle Lowry
9. Damian Lillard
10. Tony Parker
Blazers greeted by rattlesnake in locker room before Game 2 in San Antonio
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QuoteVisiting locker rooms in the NBA are the opposite of opulent. They are small and without frills, meant to keep the opposing team uncomfortable during their stay.
In the past, teams have made some additional adjustments to either the climate in the room or the water temperature to further irritate the opponent. But having a live, venomous reptile in place awaiting the visitors seems like a bit much.
From Casey Holdahl of the Blazers' website:
Upon arriving at the AT&T Center for Game 2 versus the Spurs, the Trail Blazers were greeting by an unexpected guest in Thomas Robinson's locker: a rattlesnake.
"Man, me and Thomas at our lockers as usual," explained Trail Blazers guard Will Barton. "We're changing and he goes to put his shoes down and he's like 'What the ...?' You know what he said. He's like 'There's a snake under my locker dog!' And I'm like 'Stop playing.' He's like 'No for real! A real snake!' And we just looked under there and there was a snake. I was scared!"
"I just put my shoes down and once I put my shoes down I double looked and I seen a snake sitting there," said Robinson. "After that, I got away from it. I just seen something curled up and I looked again and it was a snake. No one believed me until they looked in there. It hissed, I backed up."
Arena security moved in and removed the snake, but not before Mo Williams snapped some photos.
"We get in the lockerroom n its a damn snake, yea a snake in the lockerroom. Man we was scared as hell," the caption read.
No one was hurt, but there's no question that the Blazers were a little freaked out by the experience.
San Antonio clearly doesn't mess around in their pre-game rituals against opposition. Jake "the Snake" would be proud.
Report: Steve Kerr accepts Warriors coaching job
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QuoteNBA.com reports that Steve Kerr has turned down the Knicks' offer to join Phil Jackson in New York and will instead accept the Warriors' job.
The ove is in feact a stunner, as Kerr was thought to be too far in discussions with New York to pull out, especially given his relationship with Jackson. It leaves the Knicks without their pirimary option who Jackson had spoken with several times over the past few months, dating back to before Jackson joined the Knicks officially.
Meanwhile, the Warriors land a huge get. A former player who can connect with Steph Curry as a shooter, has a strong relationship with the front office, and the most sought-after candidate in coaching circles. It's a massive recoup by the Warriors who were thought to be scrambling after Stan Van Gundy signed with Detroit.
After seeing game 5, NBA is rigged....they want the Clippers to either lose, or they want that primetime game 7 game sunday.
Quote from: Cory on May 14, 2014, 10:03:06 PM
After seeing game 5, NBA is rigged....they want the Clippers to either lose, or they want that primetime game 7 game sunday.
Dont get me started
Was Joey Crawford officiating?
Interestingly, I have subscribed to the idea laid out by Bill Simmons regarding the NBA's sometimes suspicious ref calls. He has previously claimed he thinks officials edge games to the longest capable series possible rather than favoring certain teams. Obviously Superstar treatment occurs to better the talent and upgrade ticket sales for them- however they seem more to hate shutouts and as long as it goes beyond 5 games, everyone is happy. I believe it was Doug Collins or Van Gundy who said the NBA only has to pay for 5 games at the full price for television broadcast. After that the NBA makes more profit as the viewers tend to increase the more dramatic and drawn out the series is (so everyone is making more money regardless). While it's just a theory, I like it.
NBA has almost as much drama as the FBL.
Quote from: Domingo on May 16, 2014, 01:04:16 AM
NBA has almost as much drama as the FBL.
It was starting to get dull until the Donald Sterling scandal happened. Ever since then there's been nothing but coaching drama, ref drama, player drama, playoff drama, etc.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 16, 2014, 01:13:53 AM
It was starting to get dull until the Donald Sterling scandal happened. Ever since then there's been nothing but coaching drama, ref drama, player drama, playoff drama, etc.
Nah, the NBA is still dull.
Quote from: Jon on May 16, 2014, 07:01:34 AM
Nah, the NBA is still dull.
Well it's still the same final four as last season after all...
Nah, the "Final Four" last season was San Antonio, Memphis, Miami, and Indiana. Close though. This year is exciting to see if San Antonio can beat OKC, and if Indiana is now good enough to dethrone Miami. In my opinion: the answer is no to both due to their match ups (San Antonio) / lack of team chemistry (Indiana) and we will see the repeat 2012 playoffs. Which would mean, Miami will again beat OKC due to the unfavorable match ups. OKC's weakness is still inside, and Miami is still more athletic than OKC.
The NBA is rigged.
The Heat will beat the Spurs again.
LOL to everyone who thinks the NBA is rigged.
Quote from: JustinP on May 16, 2014, 12:36:50 PM
The NBA is rigged.
The Heat will beat the Spurs again.
Yup, needed an exciting team like the Clippers to make things fresh, but the NBA didn't want that to happen. HORRIBLE officiating. Not saying its rigged, but how many end of game, bullshit game changing calls can the Clippers get against them? Are they the bad boy Pistons or something?
Thunder lose Serge Ibaka to injury
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QuoteThe Oklahoma City Thunder will not begin their Western Conference finals showdown with the San Antonio Spurs at anywhere close to full strength.
Thunder power forward Serge Ibaka is expected to miss the rest of the postseason after suffering a left calf injury in Oklahoma City's series-clinching win Thursday night against the Los Angeles Clippers, the team announced Friday.
Thunder general manager Sam Presti called it a Grade 2 strain of the plantaris, which takes time to heal and strengthen because of a high reinjury rate.
"I just want to express our disappointment for Serge, who, as we all know, is an elite competitor and someone that has proven to be a tremendous teammate," Presti said. "He was playing great basketball throughout the season. He's had a huge impact on our season to date."
Presti said in a conference call with reporters that Ibaka is unlikely to return even if the Thunder make it past the Spurs.
The 6-foot-10 power forward underwent an MRI on Friday after suffering the injury in the third quarter of Thursday night's win.
Last year, Thunder All-Star point guard Russell Westbrook was knocked out of the playoffs with a torn ACL in the first round against Houston. The Thunder rallied to win that series before losing to Memphis in the next round.
Presti believes the Thunder can rally and be ready for the Spurs.
"We have had this group together for a while, and they've been through some ups and downs, and this is just another one that hopefully is only going to make us better," Presti said.
Ibaka averaged 12.2 points, 7.3 rebounds and 2.2 blocks in 13 playoff games. During the regular season, he notched career highs with 15.1 points and 8.8 rebounds per game while leading the league in total blocks for the fourth consecutive season with 219.
During his emotional MVP acceptance speech, Kevin Durant singled out Ibaka for stepping up and erasing many of the team's mistakes while Westbrook recovered from his most recent knee surgery. While Westbrook was out, the Thunder went 20-7, and Ibaka's numbers jumped to 15.7 points, 8.5 rebounds and 2.8 blocks per game with 57 percent shooting from the field.
"For us, we as an organization have been in some situations in the past, and how we respond to those has always been the measure of the teams that we've had in Oklahoma City," Presti said. "Our expectation going forward is that we'll respond admirably."
The Spurs will open the series at home Monday in Game 1 with health concerns of their own, as star guard Tony Parker continues to recover from a hamstring strain. But coach Gregg Popovich said Friday that Parker is hopeful of being ready for the opener, whereas Oklahoma City will greatly miss Ibaka, its interior defensive anchor.
Oklahoma City swept its four regular-season meetings with the Spurs, who went 62-16 against the rest of the league for the NBA's best record this season.
Kevin Love likes Warriors, Bulls
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QuoteKevin Love has made it clear to the Timberwolves that he intends to become an unrestricted free agent after next season and has no interest in a contract extension this summer to stay in Minnesota, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
Although sources say Love has stopped short of demanding a trade, his position could effectively force the Timberwolves to deal the All-Star forward before next season -- or before the trade deadline in February 2015 at the latest -- if they hope to dodge the risk of losing him without compensation.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Golden State Warriors and Chicago Bulls are among the potential trade destinations that intrigue Love.
The Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks have likewise been mentioned all season as big-market landing spots that would tempt Love, but going to the best situation for immediate contention is said to be the power forward's priority.
Sources say that the Phoenix Suns, armed with several draft assets to offer Minnesota, also have strong interest in trading for Love, but the 25-year-old's interest in joining the Suns is unclear.
Any team that trades for Love before he hits the open market in 2015 would naturally need assurances that they can keep him before surrendering quality assets.
The Timberwolves, at the behest of owner Glen Taylor, have rebuffed all trade interest in Love for months, clinging to hope that they can still sell him on committing for the long term and relying at least partly on the belief that he would be unwilling to walk away from the extra year -- worth roughly $30 million -- in his next deal that he can only get from Minnesota if he becomes an unrestricted free agent.
But sources say Love has stressed to the Timberwolves that he's desperate to get to a winning situation and that the constant losing has worn on him. Minnesota has yet to reach the playoffs in Love's six pro seasons and endured a particularly disappointing 2013-14 season, missing out on a top-eight spot in the West thanks in part to a number of close-game defeats.
The uncertainty surrounding Love's future, sources say, has complicated Minnesota's search for a new coach.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Wolves would pursue three of the most high-profile names in the college game to replace the retiring Rick Adelman -- Michigan State's Tom Izzo, Florida's Billy Donovan and Iowa State's Fred Hoiberg -- but quickly discovered they have little chance to lure any coach already under contract in a good situation without clarity regarding Love.
Sources told ESPN.com this week that veteran coach Scott Skiles is among the candidates Wolves president Flip Saunders has interviewed in his search for Adelman's successor.
Yahoo! Sports reported Sunday that Saunders has also interviewed former Wolves forward Sam Mitchell, while the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported in Sunday's editions that he has likewise interviewed former Memphis Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins.
Sources say the possibility remains that Saunders will move downstairs to coach the Wolves himself for a second time, but his focus to date has been trying to find a coach and plot roster moves that would entice Love to stay in the Twin Cities.
Sources say that the Warriors, in particular, have emerged as a top contender for Love should Minnesota relent and decide to trade him. The Warriors don't have a stash of draft picks to offer the Wolves like Phoenix or the Boston Celtics could offer, but Golden State could assemble a trade package featuring the likes of forwards Harrison Barnes and David Lee.
ESPN.com reported in March that rumblings about the Lakers using their forthcoming high lottery pick to try to tempt the Wolves into trading Love were already in circulation.
The lottery to determine the order for the June 26 draft is Tuesday.
ESPN.com also reported in March that Taylor has remained determined to keep resisting all trade offers for his franchise player until, as one source put it, he "has no choice."
Teams around the league are increasingly expected to test that resolve once the lottery order is established.
Not sure I like the Warriors trading their 6th man and 2nd best offensive player for Kevin Love. I like the guy a lot, but it would kill a lot of depth for that Warriors team. It would be interesting to see a team loaded with 3 point shooters, but all so weak defensively would make Steve Kerr's job extremely difficult to move them to that next level.
Quote from: JustinP on May 16, 2014, 12:36:50 PM
The NBA is rigged.
The Heat will beat the Spurs again.
Interesting news story that relates to this...
Report: Mark Cuban Hired Former FBI Agent to Investigate NBA After 2006 Finals
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QuoteMark Cuban has never been shy about criticizing NBA officials, but it seems he took things a step further after the 2006 NBA Finals in which his Dallas Mavericks fell to the Miami Heat in six controversial games.
Per John Canzano of The Oregonian:
Retired FBI agent Warren Flagg, a 20-year veteran of the bureau, said he consulted with Cuban after that playoff debacle. Flagg now runs his own New York-based investigation and security firm. He looked deep into officiating, as Flagg said, Cuban was considering a lawsuit.
"Cuban asked me what he should do," Flagg said of the 2006 Finals. "I told him, 'Sue and you'll win your case,' but he knew he'd be killing the Golden Goose."
This is the stuff of NBA conspiracy theorists' dreams, even if it probably still gives Cuban nightmares.
You'll recall Dwyane Wade took 97 trips to the foul line in six games, including an average of 18.3 attempts over the final four games of the series, per Basketball-Reference.com.
Dallas had taken a 2-0 lead with a pair of convincing wins in Games 1 and 2. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that the Mavs would cruise home.
But Wade's parade to the free-throw line changed all that.
Joey Crawford was part of the officiating crew for Game 5 of that series, when Wade attempted 25 foul shots in a 101-100 win. As a team, the Mavericks shot precisely 25 free throws in the contest.
As Flagg indicated in his comments to Canzano, perhaps Cuban never followed through with a lawsuit because he was afraid of the potential consequences. Unfortunately, it sounds like we'll never know what Flagg uncovered or why Cuban chose not to take things further.
Expect anyone with a conspiratorial bent to take this report as proof positive something fishy was going on with the NBA and its officials. But for the rest of us, the comments from Flagg aren't enough from which to draw reasonable conclusions.
As Kurt Helin of NBC Sports wisely explained:
But just as is the main flaw with almost any conspiracy—the illuminati, the CIA killed Kennedy, Area 51, etc—it counts on large groups with sometimes competing interests plus often inefficient organizations to maintain perfect secrecy and focus on the end game. The league with its owners and all those referees couldn't do that if they wanted do.
Though the incidents are unrelated, Canzano also relayed a fascinating (and perhaps highly satisfying—if you're Mark Cuban) anecdote from a 2001 meeting involving Crawford, Tim Donaghy and the rest of the NBA's officials.
Apparently Donaghy was ignoring Crawford's calls to start the meeting. Then things got interesting:
"Crawford apparently had enough of the disrespect. He walked up to Donaghy and slapped him across the face. The left-handed Donaghy took one step back, wound up, and dropped Joe Crawford with a left hook."
"He went down like a ton of bricks," Donaghy told Tom Ley of Deadspin.com. "I will say that he has a rock-hard head, though. It felt like he had steel plates in there or something. And I give him credit, because he popped back up and was ready to go."
Cuban never followed through on his plans to do something about the perceived injustices his team suffered in 2006, but I suspect he'll feel just a bit better about the whole thing when he reads about Crawford getting knocked on his back—even if the guy delivering the blow, Donaghy, has been persona non grata in NBA circles since his 2007 betting scandal rocked the league.
For what it's worth, the NBA is making a concerted effort to promote transparency in its officiating. There'll continue to be the inevitable missed calls and replay controversies, but we should also expect to see more honesty about mistakes, more accountability and, eventually, more integrity.
During this postseason alone, we've already seen admissions from the league office about missed calls and press releases explaining officials' rationale on controversial decisions.
It won't help Cuban get that 2006 ring back, but at least we can rest assured the NBA is moving in the right direction with its officiating issues.
I just want them to call traveling. The amount of sliding and gliding around the court is out of control.
Quote from: JustinP on May 19, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
I just want them to call traveling. The amount of sliding and gliding around the court is out of control.
Hornets all the buzz in Charlotte
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10958580/charlotte-bobcats-officially-change-nickname-hornets (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10958580/charlotte-bobcats-officially-change-nickname-hornets)
QuoteCHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Charlotte Hornets are back.
The NBA franchise announced Tuesday at a news conference it has officially changed its name back to the Hornets after 10 years of being known as the Bobcats.
Bringing the Hornets back is a nice nod to the past, but without wins, it will just be another buzz kill. Story
The change comes nearly one year after owner Michael Jordan indicated he wanted to change the name back to the Hornets.
The league approved the change last July.
Jordan didn't attend the news conference, but issued a statement saying it's a "historic day for our franchise, our city and our fans."
The Hornets resided in Charlotte from 1988-2002 before George Shinn moved the team -- and name -- to New Orleans after a messy divorce from the city. The name became available again when New Orleans owner Tom Benson changed his team's name from the Hornets to the Pelicans.
Several hundred fans showed up at the downtown arena for the formal announcement.
Hornets president and CEO Fred Whitfield said the goal is restore the energy the Hornets brought to the city when they were in Charlotte 12 years ago playing at the Charlotte Coliseum, which was known by fans simply as "The Hive."
It was there that the Hornets were consistently among the league leaders in attendance.
"For me this day is almost surreal because I was a Hornets season ticket holder," Whitfield said. "I know what it felt like in the old Hive and the energy and excitement that happened to be there. Michael talks fondly about the days he came in and played against the Hornets and what a challenge it was not only to battle a good team, but also the fans."
Whitfield also announced that in collaboration with the NBA and the Pelicans, all of the statistical information, records and history of the Charlotte NBA basketball will be restored to the franchise.
That means the Hornets will now own and have access to all of the historical elements from the recent Bobcats' era (2004-14) as well as the original Hornets teams that played in Charlotte -- including stats from stars such as Larry Johnson, Alonzo Mourning and Muggsy Bogues.
All of the Hornets records from their years in New Orleans will revert to the Pelicans' history, Whitfield said.
"That was a piece that was really important to us because we knew how important that was to our fans," Whitfield said. "Being able to have the old Hornets alumni back and be a part of family was important. We can say to them, `Hey, you are welcome back and you are a part of the family."
Whitfield estimates the name change will cost Jordan more than $4 million before all is said and done. The team is still working through the tedious process of rebranding the arena.
But Hornets logos have begun to spring up inside and outside of the arena.
"It's been well worth it," Whitfield said. "And it couldn't have happened without the financial commitment of our owner."
The Hornets unveiled their new logos in December.
They'll unveil their new uniforms on June 19 and the playing floor design on June 26. The Hornets' name will return to NBA action at the 2014 Summer League in Las Vegas.
The popular Hugo the Hornet mascot will make his official return on June 5.
Pete Guelli, the team's executive vice president and chief sales and marketing officer, said fans have embraced the name change.
He said 90 percent of last year's season ticket holders have renewed for the 2014-15 season. He also said the Hornets are currently No. 1 in the league for new season tickets sales.
Ugh, that makes me feel old.
Cleveland Cavaliers get the number one overall pick in the draft again.
They don't deserve it.
Quote from: JustinP on May 20, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
They don't deserve it.
Better then the Bucks who will trade it away for horrible players in three years. I agree with Mr. Cuban that the NBA is rigged. This is why I stopped watching. Its to the point where its the same teams in the finals every year and very questionable calls on teams who have a chance but lose to the "power houses".
Donald Sterling surrenders control if the Clippers to Shelly Sterling
http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/23/donald-sterling-shelly-sterling-clippers-sale-adam-silver-nba/ (http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/23/donald-sterling-shelly-sterling-clippers-sale-adam-silver-nba/)
Quote from: JustinP on May 20, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
They don't deserve it.
Deserve got nothing to do with it
The lotto is rigged. Many sports writers have a feeling it is.
Quote from: Thatpromoter on May 23, 2014, 09:02:13 PM
The lotto is rigged. Many sports writers have a feeling it is.
Many political writers have a feeling that the president is the reason the country is where it is (Hint it's congress)
Many tabloid writers have a feeling that Kim Kardashian is the most famous celeb ever.
Plus, in a lotto where the Lakers and the Celtics the two most profitable franchises in the league had better chances to win the thing, you say it's rigged because the Cavs won it? with 1.9% to win? Everyone who has called it rigged are asses, plain and simple. Anyone saying it needs fixing, is wasting their breath, it's works. The lotto was created to curb tanking for the #1 pick and as a Sixers fan I was hoping this was the year that tanking worked, and it didn't, as the lottory was created for.
The draft lotto is rigged. Also the earth is flat, 9/11 was an inside job, and LBJ put a hit out on JFK.
Don't be daft. DiMaggio had both JFK and RFK killed, because they tag teamed Marilyn.
1) Lance shut up and take last night as a lesson.
2) I have a real issue with Paul George blaming the refs for the reason they lost and for saying they played the better game. Lance wqs nomexistent, Hibbert was nonexistent, and the team got out muscled. The Heat xontrolled the game from the tip.
I know its false...but still funny and SEEMS true.
http://truschoolsports.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/lebron-james-actual-playoff-record-with-and-without-joey-crawford/ (http://truschoolsports.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/lebron-james-actual-playoff-record-with-and-without-joey-crawford/)
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on April 19, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
If it's Pacers vs Thunder, Justin is going to be 100% wrong, not that he's not that already. Both teams are better with them, especially in the playoffs when defense is actually played.
Miami Heat are back in the Finals. But then again that isn't surprising considering how the Pacers have been playing.
Clips sale pending board approval
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11008952/nba-approves-steve-ballmer-bid-buy-los-angeles-clippers (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11008952/nba-approves-steve-ballmer-bid-buy-los-angeles-clippers)
QuoteThe NBA has approved former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer's $2 billion bid to buy the Los Angeles Clippers, the league said in a statement Friday night.
The sale is subject to approval from the league's owners before it can be finalized.
Tuesday's scheduled NBA Board of Governors meeting has been canceled. Shelly Sterling had pushed to negotiate a sale before the meeting, at which both of the Sterlings' ownership interests could have been terminated.
As part of the sale agreement, Shelly Sterling and the Sterling family trust have agreed not to sue the NBA and to absolve the league of litigation by others, including Donald Sterling. There also is language in the agreement that states Ballmer will not move the team from Los Angeles, according to a source with knowledge of the deal.
Shelly's husband, Donald, filed a $1 billion lawsuit against the league earlier Friday.
Donald Sterling's attorney, Max Blecher, said he needed to review all the new information before proceeding.
"We gotta sit down and see how all of this affects us," Blecher told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne. "We have to think through the whole situation.
"[Shelly's] saying, 'If you sue us, we'll have to pay out of our own money.' It's like suing themselves. We have to see whether the law allows that to happen."
The $2 billion price tag is the most by far for an NBA team, topping the $550 million paid for the Milwaukee Bucks earlier this year, and ranks among the highest ever for a North American professional sports franchise. Ballmer defended the amount of his bid in an interview with the Los Angeles Times on Friday, saying he would be paying, in part, for the Clippers' potential value.
"I've got big dreams for the team," he told the Times. "I'd love to win a championship. I'd love the Clippers to be the most dynamic, vibrant team and name in professional sports."
Ballmer added: "The only way any of this makes sense -- my desire to spend time in Los Angeles, this team, its aspirations, this community, this purchase price, any of that -- is to really live out the dream and make this kind of America's team."
Ballmer also confirmed to the Times that another part of the sale agreement was to recognize Shelly Sterling with a sort of "owner-emeritus" status, which would make her welcome at Clippers games. Her husband, on the other hand, was given a lifetime ban from the NBA, in addition to a $2.5 million fine, and is not permitted to attend games.
Rom Klempner, the acting director of the National Basketball Players Association, lauded Ballmer in a 467-word letter to players about the sale, which was obtained by ESPN.com's Marc Stein, and said, "If the transaction is consummated, it will represent a very positive step toward ending a very unfortunate time for our league."
"As opposed to an owner who notoriously invested little in his team over the years, the proposed new owner is one who, based on his pedigree, history and the investment he already has pledged to make in the franchise, should be an innovator and a contributor," Klempner wrote. "Not just in terms of his approach to players, but generally in the manner in which he is expected to market the team and the product."
Klempner said the sale illustrated the "superb" economic condition of the league and how the union was "proud to have stood together as players against the divisive language and actions that led to this situation."
It is amazing how Derek Fisher actslike he never fouls anybody.
Quote from: JustinP on May 31, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
It is amazing how Derek Fisher actslike he never fouls anybody.
It is amazing how Derek Fisher is
still in the NBA.
Quote from: JustinP on May 31, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
It is amazing how Derek Fisher actslike he never fouls anybody.
It's called working the refs, if you act like you commited a foul, they'll say you did, that why you'll see a big man who is a bench guy say he fouled the guy on the drive instead of teh starter that was defending him because it may convince the ref it was you.
And on the note about Lance and Westbrook, neither of those two are the reason their teams did not reach teh finals. Lance was the only player I could look at in the series and say he tried every game. George played too passive except for game 5 where he played out of his mind. Hibbert was out of it all playoffs for some reason.
Westbrook as Simmons said is the perfect 90/10 guy. 90% of the time, he is one of the best at his position and a horrible match up for many PGs but 10 percent of the team he is so infruiating. But when KD came out during this MVP speech in defense of Westbrook, they'll never trade him.
San Antonio Spurs are back in the NBA Finals.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on May 31, 2014, 11:35:16 PM
It's called working the refs, if you act like you commited a foul, they'll say you did, that why you'll see a big man who is a bench guy say he fouled the guy on the drive instead of teh starter that was defending him because it may convince the ref it was you.
And on the note about Lance and Westbrook, neither of those two are the reason their teams did not reach teh finals. Lance was the only player I could look at in the series and say he tried every game. George played too passive except for game 5 where he played out of his mind. Hibbert was out of it all playoffs for some reason.
Westbrook as Simmons said is the perfect 90/10 guy. 90% of the time, he is one of the best at his position and a horrible match up for many PGs but 10 percent of the team he is so infruiating. But when KD came out during this MVP speech in defense of Westbrook, they'll never trade him.
I know what hes doing I just find it funny that he does it every time.
I agree that both players had a great series amd were the best players on their teams in the series. However, neither will win a championship with them on their team.
What a wild game one. Air conditioning went out, Lebron cramped up and had to leave the game to the point where he was carried to the bench, and the Spurs outscored the Heat 31-9 to end the game.
Derek Fisher has accepted the Knicks offer to become head coach.
Derek Fisher, Knicks agree to deal
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http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11057518/derek-fisher-reaches-agreement-become-coach-new-york-knicks (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11057518/derek-fisher-reaches-agreement-become-coach-new-york-knicks)
QuoteThe New York Knicks have an agreement in place with Derek Fisher to become the team's next coach, according to reports.
Derek Fisher has agreed to join Phil Jackson and the Knicks as the team's next coach, according to reports.
The two sides are in the process of finalizing a five-year, $25 million deal, according to Yahoo! Sports.
Sources told ESPN.com that new Knicks president Phil Jackson has been fully focused on Fisher since Steve Kerr unexpectedly decided to take the Golden State Warriors' job, when Jackson and essentially the whole league believed Kerr was bound for New York.
Fisher, like Kerr, is a trusted former player under Jackson whose longtime close relationship with the 11-time champion coach would suggest that he'll welcome Jackson's presence on the court in training camp and at occasional practices.
Sources maintain that freedom is important to Jackson, who wants to establish and maintain an on-the-floor role in his first stint as the lead decision-maker in the front office for a franchise.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FISHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NBA is following the FBL route of coach hiring.
Remember we did it here first folks!
Basically they are taking the TNA approach to WWE with the FBL as it relates to this.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Quote from: Domingo on June 10, 2014, 01:49:13 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens.
No it don't. It's the NBA. It's the TNA of major sports.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 10, 2014, 01:52:12 AM
No it don't. It's the NBA. It's the TNA of major sports.
That would be the NHL ...
Lebron is the only one doing anything for the Heat right now. The Spurs are dominating on both sides of the ball. Total team effort by the Spurs. Unselfish, team first play by them and it's really incredible to watch especially considering it's happening two games in a row on the road.
Heat will win in 7.
If the Heat win this series, you might as well fold the NBA. With the way the Spurs have completely and utterly embarrassed the Heat the last two games, it would take an act of God, aka the referees dawning Miami jerseys for any chance of them coming back.
Quote from: JustinP on June 13, 2014, 12:29:03 PM
Heat will win in 7.
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Donald Sterling aims to 'dig up' dirt
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11075968/donald-sterling-hires-4-private-investigation-firms-dig-nba (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11075968/donald-sterling-hires-4-private-investigation-firms-dig-nba)
QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling's team of lawyers has hired four private investigation firms to dig up "dirt" on the NBA's former and current commissioners and its 29 other owners, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.
The move was earlier reported by The Associated Press, citing a person familiar with Sterling's legal strategy.
Investigators were given a six-figure budget over the next 30 days to examine the league's finances, allegations of previous discriminatory conduct and compensation to past commissioner David Stern and current commissioner Adam Silver, said the AP source, who spoke Thursday night on condition of anonymity. The person wasn't authorized to talk publicly.
The person said the investigators also are looking into whether other owners made any off-color jokes, or racist or sexist remarks.
"The gloves are off, as they say," the person said. "Have them dig up all the dirt they can find."
Sterling, 80, is suing the NBA for $1 billion in federal court after the league tried to oust him as Clippers owner for making racist remarks to a girlfriend that were recorded and publicized. Silver fined him $2.5 million and banned him for life.
The suit alleges the league violated Sterling's constitutional rights by relying on information from an "illegal" recording. It also says the league committed a breach of contract by fining Sterling and that it violated antitrust laws by trying to force a sale.
"Now his objective is to demonstrate for everybody that the NBA is a damned hypocrite," Sterling attorney Bobby Samini told ESPN.com on Wednesday. "We're going to pull every case against the NBA. Then we'll demonstrate that the culture of racism and gender discrimination is born at the NBA, where Adam Silver has worked in a high-level position for a long time."
In addition, Sterling's attorneys will face off with his estranged wife's attorneys in probate court during a four-day hearing scheduled for July.
The probate court hearing centers on whether Shelly Sterling had the right to unilaterally negotiate a $2 billion deal to sell the Clippers to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. Shelly Sterling's attorney, Pierce O'Donnell, said she made the deal as the sole administrator of the Sterling Family Trust, which owns the team, after two doctors determined her husband was mentally "incapacitated." Donald Sterling is fighting that conclusion and her authority to sell.
The person who spoke to the AP said Donald Sterling reluctantly agreed to hire private investigators after this week's legal proceedings in probate court. The NBA submitted a legal filing Wednesday urging a judge to confirm Shelly Sterling's authority to sell the team.
"He realized these guys will literally go to any low to get this sold," the person said. "Even if it gets [him] nothing other than exposing all these guys and shaking up the league and seeing a change in the leadership of the league, it'll be worth it to him."
The firms will be engaged in an "audition" of sorts, the individual said: "Whoever delivers the best [material] is going to stay on for the next round, and it might be all four of them ... 29 owners is not a small undertaking."
ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Report: Carmelo Anthony already leaning toward Bulls and Rockets
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24588025/report-carmelo-anthony-already-leaning-toward-bulls-and-rockets (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24588025/report-carmelo-anthony-already-leaning-toward-bulls-and-rockets)
QuoteRemember the Melo Drama of a couple years ago? It looks like it's back and better than ever. With Carmelo Anthony becoming a free agent at the end of the month and things in New York looking a little bleak with the Knicks, Anthony could be looking for new suitors and championship-ready teams to hopefully join this summer for the next stage of his career. It looks like he's already leaning toward a couple of teams.
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports is reporting that Anthony was relatively unfazed by a recent meeting with the Knicks' brass and is leaning toward leaving the Knicks for a much better team. The top two teams from the article are the Chicago Bulls and the Houston Rockets, who both need to clear the necessary cap space first.
New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony is leaning toward leaving in pursuit of immediate championship contention, and awaits the Chicago Bulls and Houston Rockets to clear the necessary salary-cap space to sign him in free agency, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
As re-signing with the Knicks continues to fade as his priority, Chicago and Houston have emerged as the clear frontrunners to acquire Anthony, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Anthony's meeting with Knicks officials on Friday night had little impact on his state of mind, league sources said, because there remain too many uncertainties about how quickly president Phil Jackson can reshape the team into a championship contender.
The Knicks' horrendous season in 2013-14 -- in which they not only failed to build on the successful 54-win season the year before but managed to miss the playoffs in a weak Eastern Conference completely -- was probably eye-opening to Anthony. Even after hiring Phil Jackson to shape the roster and Derek Fisher to coach the team, the roster needs a lot of work and reworking in order to start approaching a championship contention. Anthony turned 30 a couple weeks ago and this will be his last contract in which he's capable of being a major player.
If the salary cap is going to be around $62 million like has been projected over the last couple months, that leaves the Bulls needing to clear roughly $20 million in room in order to sign him. They can take care of a big chunk of that money by using the amnesty clause on Carlos Boozer, who is slated to make $16 million next season, according to ShamSports.com. They'd also have to renounce the rights to their current free agents (Kirk Hinrich, D.J. Augustin, Jimmer Fredette, among others) and probably find a home for Mike Dunleavy's $3.3 million contract for next season without taking anything back.
It's quite doable without even turning it into a sign-and-trade, although that would make it easier to work something out.
The Rockets' situation is much more complicated. They have a little over $62 million committed to the salary cap next season, putting them right up against the projected number. They have Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik on expiring deals but would probably have to package a draft pick or two with each player to move them for next to nothing in return. The Rockets would also have to figure out just how necessary it is to keep Chandler Parsons, Terrence Jones, and Patrick Beverley in some combination unless Anthony is willing to take less money to keep some depth to the roster.
Quote from: JustinP on June 13, 2014, 01:39:28 PM
*Shakes Jon's hand*
Do you want my paypal account now or later?
Pay Pal Account E-mail is hallquist.jon@gmail.com
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Number 5!!!
Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant
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I am happy its not LaBrain again however its same teams over and over winning titles.
Quote from: Jon on June 15, 2014, 10:52:14 PM
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Clippers restructure front office, promote Doc Rivers to president
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24590304/clippers-restructure-front-office-promote-doc-rivers-to-president (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24590304/clippers-restructure-front-office-promote-doc-rivers-to-president)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Clippers have restructured their front office, with Doc Rivers' title changing from senior vice president of basketball operations to president, the team announced on Monday.
Kevin Eastman, Rivers' longtime assistant coach, has been promoted to vice president. He has never been in a front-office role before. With assistants Alvin Gentry and Tyronn Lue both talking to other teams, the coaching staff could look quite different next season.
In addition, Dave Wohl, formerly the Clippers' director of scouting, is now the general manager. Gary Sacks, who was the executive vice president of player personnel, has been named assistant general manager.
Hornets unveil 3 new uniforms
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11107325/charlotte-hornets-unveil-three-primary-new-uniforms (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11107325/charlotte-hornets-unveil-three-primary-new-uniforms)
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QuoteThe Charlotte Hornets unveiled their new uniforms on Thursday.
The uniforms were designed in collaboration with Nike's Jordan brand, as Michael Jordan is the team's owner, even though the league's official apparel provider is adidas, which is still charged with producing the jerseys.
The home uniform is white with purple numbers and teal letters, while the away jersey is predominately purple with teal numbers and white lettering. Both jerseys have "Hornets" across the chest, feature a hornet silhouette on the waistband and a Hornet cell design on the side of the shorts.
The alternate jersey, which is to be worn 16 to 20 times, is teal with white lettering and purple numbers. It features "Charlotte" across the chest and the diving hornet logo on the shorts. All the jerseys feature a color accented V-neck, a tribute to the Hornets jerseys of old.
Before arriving at the designs, the team went through an exhaustive process, which included making sure the exact colors can be sourced and testing how the uniforms read on camera.
Per league rules, the Hornets had to change up designs and logos from their history, as those designs now fall under the league's retro Hardwood Classics program.
The design doesn't completely ditch the famous pinstriping that appeared on the team's original uniforms. It runs down the side of the uniform as compared to the old uniform, which featured symmetrical spacing of vertical lines throughout.
Fans can preorder the authentic jersey beginning in August, while the two other styles of replicas will be available in team shop and online in September.
The Hornets left Charlotte after the 2001-02 season to flee to New Orleans. Charlotte got an expansion franchise two seasons later. When the New Orleans franchise changed its name to Pelicans in May 2013, that opened up Hornets again for Charlotte. The team announced a return to the Hornets name two months later.
Since putting new Charlotte Hornets gear on sale in January, the team has set multiple franchise sales records. The team's original jerseys were designed by North Carolina native Alexander Julian, who said he received monthly shipments of barbecue in exchange for his work.
David Blatt accepts Cavs job
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11112991/david-blatt-new-coach-cleveland-cavaliers (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11112991/david-blatt-new-coach-cleveland-cavaliers)
QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers have reached a verbal agreement with David Blatt to become their coach, and a deal could be signed by Friday, sources told ESPN.com.
Blatt, the first Euroleague coach to come to the NBA as a head coach, has been in Cleveland this week meeting with Cavs officials and was offered the job on Thursday night. Also on Friday, the Cavs hosted potential No. 1 overall draft pick Jabari Parker for a visit and a workout.
It is a three-year deal worth about $10 million with a fourth-year team option that includes incentives, the sources said.
Los Angeles Clippers assistant coach Tyronn Lue was the other finalist for the job, sources said, after a protracted search to replace Mike Brown that lasted six weeks and included numerous candidates.
Blatt, 55, will be coming to the NBA after a successful 20-year coaching career in Europe that included stops in Israel, Greece, Russia and Turkey. He led Maccabi Tel Aviv to the Euroleague championship this past season. In 2012, he coached the Russian national team to the bronze medal at the Summer Olympics in London.
A former player under legendary coach Pete Carril at Princeton, Blatt typically runs the Princeton-style offense with his teams.
He has a long relationship with many NBA executives, including Cavaliers general manager David Griffin. Had the Cavs not offered Blatt their job, Steve Kerr was ready to hire him to be his lead assistant at Golden State.
The Cavs have missed the playoffs in each of the past four seasons. Blatt will be their third head coach in the past three years.
Information from ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst and Jeff Goodman was used in this report.
Carmelo Anthony to opt out of deal
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11119636/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-opt-contract (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11119636/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-opt-contract)
QuoteCarmelo Anthony has decided to opt out of the final year of his contract with the New York Knicks and become an unrestricted free agent, according to multiple sources.
Anthony has until Monday to officially inform the team of his plans.
Knicks president Phil Jackson said recently that he hoped Anthony would consider opting into the final year of his contract and testing free agency in the summer of 2015. Jackson has privately expressed that hope to Anthony several times since the end of the regular season.
The Chicago Bulls are one of several teams with whom Anthony would consider signing, according to sources.
According to league sources, Anthony has talked to at least one high-profile person who lives in Chicago about what it's like to be famous in the Windy City.
The Bulls also have reportedly done their due diligence on Anthony in recent days. According to a report in the Chicago Sun-Times, Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau has reached out to some of Anthony's former coaches to inquire about the seven-time All-Star.
I am not sure Anthony is the guy we want, depends what we have to give up for him. I cant see that he has made any team better since he has been there.
We got two 1st round picks this year and I wouldnt want to lose too many of the roster that was Rose-less and still got to the playoffs.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on June 23, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
I am not sure Anthony is the guy we want, depends what we have to give up for him. I cant see that he has made any team better since he has been there.
We got two 1st round picks this year and I wouldnt want to lose too many of the roster that was Rose-less and still got to the playoffs.
The same problem he had a New York, he'd have in Chicago. He couldn't share the ball while he was on the Knicks, and the Bulls are going to run their offense to Derrick Rose no matter what. It would be better off putting together a package for Kevin Love.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on June 23, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
I am not sure Anthony is the guy we want, depends what we have to give up for him. I cant see that he has made any team better since he has been there.
We got two 1st round picks this year and I wouldnt want to lose too many of the roster that was Rose-less and still got to the playoffs.
He has lead his team to the playoffs every season except this past one. Sure, he is all about me on the offensive end, but he has been able to put his team on his back and carry them to the playoffs despite inferior talent. I don't think he has a problem sharing with Rose.
Quote from: JustinP on June 23, 2014, 11:52:29 AM
He has lead his team to the playoffs every season except this past one. Sure, he is all about me on the offensive end, but he has been able to put his team on his back and carry them to the playoffs despite inferior talent. I don't think he has a problem sharing with Rose.
Those first round picks are going to be critical. They should have a chance to draft Rodney Hood and Adrian Payne, which would improve that their shooting tremendously. Gibson should be a upgrade over Boozer, but as always Rose will Be the x-factor.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on June 23, 2014, 11:57:38 AM
Those first round picks are going to be critical. They should have a chance to draft Rodney Hood and Adrian Payne, which would improve that their shooting tremendously. Gibson should be a upgrade over Boozer, but as always Rose will Be the x-factor.
I agree with this. They should be able to get one or both of those players and have a cloud overall team even if Rose is still out.
On paper though I am pretty happy with our team. As suggested elsewhere, I'd be more interested in us getting Kevin Love than Anthony.
I can see the argument for Gibson to come into the starting lineup, but I'd rather leave him as the 6th man at the moment, go for Love and begin the devlopment of Snell/Butler. Add to that these lovely first round picks and the Bulls have to be a serious contender again...provided Rose remains healthy.
Tim Duncan exercises $10.3M option
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11124946/tim-duncan-exercises-103-million-contract-option-san-antonio-spurs-2014-15-season (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11124946/tim-duncan-exercises-103-million-contract-option-san-antonio-spurs-2014-15-season)
QuoteTim Duncan has decided to continue his career for an 18th season with the San Antonio Spurs and has exercised his $10.3 million player option for next season, the team announced Monday.
Duncan, 38, had a strong season, averaging 15.1 points and 9.7 rebounds in 74 regular-season games and then putting up 16.3 points and 9.2 rebounds over 23 playoff games.
The Spurs are now assured to have their three-player core of Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker back for their title defense. All three are entering the final season of their contracts.
Sources: Byron Scott tops Lakers' list
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11127014/byron-scott-favorite-los-angeles-lakers-coach-search (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11127014/byron-scott-favorite-los-angeles-lakers-coach-search)
QuoteLOS ANGELES -- While the Lakers remain focused on Thursday's draft and the start of free agency July 1, sources tell ESPN.com that former star Byron Scott has emerged as the leading candidate for the head-coaching job after impressing in three interviews with the team.
Talks with the former Nets and Cavaliers coach have not progressed to the contract stage, as the Lakers continue to weigh whether to hold off on hiring a coach before they make their pitches to free agents.
The possibility of soliciting opinions of free agents before making a hire is a large part of the reason the Lakers have taken such a deliberate approach to their coaching search since Mike D'Antoni resigned after the season.
Scott, former Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins, former Suns coach Alvin Gentry and former Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy have had formal interviews with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and vice president of player personnel Jim Buss.
Gentry signed on to become the associate head coach for Steve Kerr in Golden State.
Hollins remains in contention for the job after a strong interview, sources said. Hollins also has had conversations with the Houston Rockets about an associate head-coaching role under Kevin McHale.
Bye, bye Lebron...
Agent to Heat: LeBron opting out
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11127329/lebron-james-opt-contract-miami-heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11127329/lebron-james-opt-contract-miami-heat)
QuoteLeBron James' agent, Rich Paul, has informed the Miami Heat that James will exercise his early termination option and become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.
Opting out does not mean that James has decided to leave the Heat, sources said.
James, a four-time NBA MVP, had until June 30 to decide whether to opt out of the final two years of his contract with Miami. He was scheduled to make $20 million next season and had two years and about $42.7 million remaining on his deal.
After Miami's season-ending loss to the San Antonio Spurs in Game 5 of the NBA Finals, James told reporters he would take a vacation with his family before considering his contract options.
James did indicate that he welcomed the opportunity to become a free agent and have the same level of flexibility he was afforded in 2010, when he signed with Miami after spending his first seven years in Cleveland.
"Being able to have flexibility as a professional, anyone, that's what we all would like," James said last week. "That's in any sport, for a football player, a baseball player, a basketball player, to have flexibility and be able to control your future or your present. I have a position to be able to do that. ... There's a lot of times that you're not in control of your future as a professional."
In his four seasons in Miami, the Heat have gone to the NBA Finals four times, winning two championships. James could join Shaquille O'Neal as the only players in league history to lead the NBA Finals in total points scored and then play for a different team to start the following season, according to Elias Sports Bureau. O'Neal played for the 2003-04 Los Angeles Lakers, who lost to the Detroit Pistons in the NBA Finals, and then was traded to the Heat in the offseason.
If James departs, he would also be leaving a historic opportunity on the table. Only one team in NBA history has appeared in at least five consecutive NBA Finals, the Boston Celtics, who reached 10 straight from 1957 to '66.
With James and Carmelo Anthony officially opting out of their contracts, multiple teams -- including the Cleveland Cavaliers, Atlanta Hawks and Lakers -- have begun the process of exploring roster moves that would create sufficient salary-cap space to try to sign 2014's marquee free agents in tandem, sources close to the situation told ESPN.com
Meanwhile, the other two Miami stars with early termination options -- Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh -- have not yet told the Heat or publicly revealed whether they will join James as free agents this summer. Bosh and James both said last week that the three would meet before deciding anything about their respective futures, and it's been widely speculated that they might have to rework their deals to keep the "Big 3" together in Miami.
Each signed six-year deals when they famously teamed up in Miami in 2010, and all of those deals came with options to become free agents either this summer or in the summer of 2015. Together, they've won four Eastern Conference titles and two NBA championships, winning more games than any other team in the league over that span.
"There's a conversation that will be had between the three of us," James said last week. "I think it's only right. I think we've earned that for each other, to have a conversation and see what could possibly happen."
News of James opting out Tuesday also impacted Las Vegas, where several sports books there, including the Wynn, took the drastic measure of pulling all future odds on all NBA teams to win next year's title.
Teams eye LeBron, Melo pairing
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11128345/nba-teams-gear-runs-lebron-james-carmelo-anthony (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11128345/nba-teams-gear-runs-lebron-james-carmelo-anthony)
QuoteWith LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony officially opting out of their contracts, multiple teams have begun the process of exploring roster moves that would create sufficient salary-cap space to sign 2014's marquee free agents in tandem this summer, according to sources close to the situation.
In addition to the Miami Heat's obvious desire to retain James by any means necessary and pursue Anthony if he urges them to do so, sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that the Cleveland Cavaliers and Atlanta Hawks are among the teams mulling potential trades designed to clear enough cap space to be able to recruit the two stars and close friends.
The Los Angeles Lakers, meanwhile, had begun exploring such machinations even before the opt outs of James and Anthony had become known, according to ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne.
The Lakers have been trying in recent days to package the No. 7 overall pick in Thursday's draft with the expiring contract of Steve Nash (who's owed $9.7 million next season) to free up enough room to offer James and Anthony at least $16 million each next season to join forces with Kobe Bryant, Shelburne reported.
As of now, no team that is believed to have any sort of shot at luring James away from the Heat has enough cap space to add both him and Anthony at representative salaries. But more than 15 teams are projected to have significant salary-cap space this summer, raising the possibility that several will try to offload multiple players in conjunction with the draft to create flexibility in the same manner the Heat did in 2010 to make room for their historic free-agent haul.
James' Heat teammates from that haul, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, have until Monday to notify Miami whether they will follow suit and opt for free agency on July 1 or opt in for next season's salaries.
Sources say the timing of James making his opt out known six days before his deadline of Monday was done in part to give teams that may want to recruit him enough notice to pursue the needed roster alterations. This includes a Heat team less than two weeks removed from a lopsided NBA Finals loss to the San Antonio Spurs that had James calling for upgrades to the roster "at every position."
Last week, Heat president Pat Riley acknowledged that team officials had begun discussing the idea of trying to recruit Anthony to join James, Wade and Bosh on South Beach and turn Miami's Big Three into a Big Four, but Riley conceded that the ambitious concept was a "pipe dream" given the pay cuts it would require to make it happen.
Other teams, however, have been anticipating this contingency for months, which could lead to a flurry of activity around the league in conjunction with the draft and during the first few days of free agency in July, when teams can begin to formally pitch themselves to James and Anthony.
If the Lakers were to successfully shed the No. 7 pick and Nash's contract without taking any salary back, such moves would potentially open more than $33 million in cap space for the Lakers to chase James and Anthony.
The Cavs, meanwhile, have numerous nonguaranteed contracts on their books and extra draft picks they could attach to players in trades to free up money. There are scenarios where the team believes it could clear in excess of $30 million in cap space without having to trade young star Kyrie Irving or the No. 1 overall pick in Thursday's draft, sources said this week.
But if Wade, Bosh and teammate Udonis Haslem follow James' lead and opt out of their contracts, Miami could create an NBA-record $50-plus million in cap space, which the Heat could use to remake their roster and include James and Anthony.
Atlanta has one of the most flexible rosters in the league, with multiple options to move attractive players to other teams to create space. The Hawks, however, have been somewhat reluctant to completely gut their roster as they hope to build off some success from last season.
James and Anthony have been friends since they met at a USA Basketball event in 2001 and, according to a recent report from ESPN's Stephen A. Smith, have expressed a mutual desire to play together on the same team full-time before their careers are over. James and Anthony are expected to be in contact during their free-agent process, since this is the first time they will have been unrestricted free agents at the same time.
In an interview with Vice Sports this week, Anthony said family considerations and the size of the market will be factors in where he chooses to sign this summer, which could affect the feasibility of certain teams being able to land both players.
Id like to see him go back to Cleveland, if they would welcome him, to kinda stick to his word to leave, get 'ships then come back...would make him VERY less loathable in my books.
Plus, if they can keep Irving, develop Bennett draft Wiggins and get James....that'd be sick as a Canadian fan.
As a Celtics fan I'd kill some fools to get LeBron in green, but it's not happening.
If the C's don't get Love, and it's a long shot at this point, then it's going to be ugly for a while....
I heard he was "intrigued" by going to the Clippers so he could play with Chris Paul.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 24, 2014, 05:28:58 PM
I heard he was "intrigued" by going to the Clippers so he could play with Chris Paul.
That would be fucking epic, if they could somehow have Paul/Riddick/Griffin/Lebron/Jordan if they could finanacially swing that.
Or maybe,
#Lebronto
Found the article about it.
Sources: LeBron James expected to meet with Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh to discuss future
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--lebron-james-expected-to-meet-with-dwyane-wade--chris-bosh-to-discuss-future-161349489.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--lebron-james-expected-to-meet-with-dwyane-wade--chris-bosh-to-discuss-future-161349489.html)
QuoteIn the wake of LeBron James' decision to opt out of his contract, the NBA's best player is still expected to sit down with Miami Heat teammates Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to discuss a future together with the team, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The meeting is expected to take place days before the official beginning of free agency, and there's an expectation that the Heat's "Big 3" will have a strong idea about whether they'll continue together in Miami before James, 29, can hit the market on July 1.
The Heat's core players have until June 30 to inform the team of their plans, and now the pressure goes to Bosh and Wade to opt out of their deals to presumably re-sign new contracts at lesser values to help James and the Heat create the salary cap space to upgrade the roster.
James, a four-time NBA MVP, is opting out of the final two years and $42.7 million on his contract. He is eligible to sign a new five-year, $114 million maximum extension with the Heat, or for four years with another team.
Discussions between James and Heat owner Micky Arison and president Pat Riley will take place soon too, sources said.
James' agent, Rich Paul, informed the Heat on Tuesday morning that his client would exercise the early termination option on his contract and become an unrestricted free agent, sources said.
The most intriguing move on the mind of James and his camp, sources told Yahoo Sports, would be a sign-and-trade scenario with the Los Angeles Clippers in which James could play with close friend Chris Paul and under president-coach Doc Rivers. Nevertheless, Miami has remained the primary consideration for James, sources said. He wants to see Riley's plans for improving the roster.
As for sign-and-trade scenarios, in which Riley would have to assist James in getting his maximum financial payout with a new team, the organization has been privately adamant that they'd never do it, league sources said. If James wanted to force his way to the Clippers, he'd have to create the fear within Miami that it could lose him for nothing to a team with the salary cap space to sign him.
Beyond the Clippers, the Houston Rockets are working to free the salary cap space to pursue James to partner him with All-Stars Dwight Howard and James Harden. The Cleveland Cavaliers have held on to hopes that a reunion could be possible, should James decide that he wants to return to his Ohio home.
The opt-out had been anticipated for James, who can work with the Heat on a new deal. For Paul, this is a chance to earn a commission on his first contract with James. Creative Arts Agency negotiated deals for James, Wade and Bosh in the summer of 2010, but will no longer receive commission on James' renegotiated deal with Miami, or a new deal elsewhere.
If Wade won't take a paycut I'd be out of there...
And for LBJ to go to the Clips I think they have to trade some guys to make room, probably Jordan plus role players.
Wade needs to take a paycut AND a Manu type role. This would allow him to be effective when he plays and allow for a Trevor Ariza like FA to come in and start next to LBJ and take the load of both of them.
Wade for sure needs to take a pay cut. Miami needs to overhaul their bench big time and get a better PG.
The opt out for me is to restructure a pay deal with the Heat. I personally think all three will opt out allowing the Heat to renegoiate with them. Can't see any of them going anywhere. Melo (the 4th wheel here) will entertain someone like the Bulls I would say or the Clippers.
Agreed. The opt-out was a long reported strategy to get the Heat more pieces around them. LeBron was frustrated at the lack of depth around him.
Quote from: T-Flower on June 24, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
Agreed. The opt-out was a long reported strategy to get the Heat more pieces around them. LeBron was frustrated at the lack of depth around him.
Then why did he go down to south beach? He had a GM in Cleveland that wanted to build a team around him. This is LaBron being a greedy bastard.
It was the easiest choice of the off-season. Wade is toast- he doesn't have much left in those knees. Bosh isn't interested in doing anything but jacking up 3's. Chalmers, Cole, Haslem, and company isn't going to get it done moving forward.
He could go back to Cleveland and play with a potential superstar in Irving and the number one overall pick.
He could to the Clippers and play with Paul, Redick, and Griffin.
Why would he stay with the Heat?
Quote from: Krazy on June 24, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
Then why did he go down to south beach? He had a GM in Cleveland that wanted to build a team around him. This is LaBron being a greedy bastard.
When he (likely) re-signs with the Heat, it will be for
less money, so that they can afford to put talent around him. What is greedy about that? Unless you mean greedy for more Championships....
Quote from: Mike Powers on June 24, 2014, 07:53:23 PM
When he (likely) re-signs with the Heat, it will be for less money, so that they can afford to put talent around him. What is greedy about that? Unless you mean greedy for more Championships....
Honestly all Lebron cares about is championships. Duncan took the right approach and I respect him a lot for having a team first style.
Any pro athlete should just care about Championships.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 24, 2014, 08:01:08 PM
Honestly all Lebron cares about is championships. Duncan took the right approach and I respect him a lot for having a team first style.
Actually that's not all he cares about. He cares about his brand. He wants to become the first billion dollar athlete and he's not going to take less money, Wade and Bosh are. Lebron is the best player in the game, and he's going to get paid like it. Wade is old and there is no way in hell anyone OTHER than Miami pays him close to 15 the next two years. And Bosh is a top player, but to be in a place he loves and play for championships, he'll take less money.
Also, I respect Tim for being the greatest player of his generation and one of the best bigs in the game, but that comments implies that Lebron isn't about the team, which is false. Yes, off the court, he does what's best for LeBron, hence the move to MIA, but everywhere else, he's a team guy.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 24, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Actually that's not all he cares about. He cares about his brand. He wants to become the first billion dollar athlete and he's not going to take less money, Wade and Bosh are. Lebron is the best player in the game, and he's going to get paid like it. Wade is old and there is no way in hell anyone OTHER than Miami pays him close to 15 the next two years. And Bosh is a top player, but to be in a place he loves and play for championships, he'll take less money.
Also, I respect Tim for being the greatest player of his generation and one of the best bigs in the game, but that comments implies that Lebron isn't about the team, which is false. Yes, off the court, he does what's best for LeBron, hence the move to MIA, but everywhere else, he's a team guy.
That's my point. It's HIS brand, not the team. Lebron may be the best player but he sure didn't act like it when he was crying on the bench game five. Sure, he played great but you don't start crying like that on the biggest stage of them all no matter what the situation. You have to show poise. That showed me a lot about Lebron. How is Lebron about the team? I don't see it. I saw more team play from the Spurs bench guys than I did the Heat starters in that series and that includes Lebron. I disagree about him being a team player. To me he comes across like a primadonna.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 24, 2014, 08:22:20 PM
That's my point. It's HIS brand, not the team. Lebron may be the best player but he sure didn't act like it when he was crying on the bench game five. Sure, he played great but you don't start crying like that on the biggest stage of them all no matter what the situation. You have to show poise. That showed me a lot about Lebron. How is Lebron about the team? I don't see it. I saw more team play from the Spurs bench guys than I did the Heat starters in that series and that includes Lebron. I disagree about him being a team player. To me he comes across like a primadonna.
1) You'd bitch and moan too if you were the only player playing your heart out in a win or go home game. The dude put up 18 in the first quarter of that game, the rest of the team struggled to put together another 10 points. It was Cleveland all over again in that series, and he left Cleveland so that'd never happen to him again
2) You don't have to show poise in that situation, like I said, he left Cleveland on the promise that he'd never have to carry a team like he did, ever again and lo and behold, four years later and he has to. I said this elsewhere but Lebron has it harder than any other player who ever played that was considered great because of the internet and people like us who criticize every moment of his career. He laughs during a loss, and he gets branded as not caring enough. He involves his teammates in a loss and people say "if he just controlled the ball the whole game, they'd have won. Lebron doesn't have the killer instinct". He set the tone for his team and they do little to support him and he gets called out for not being a team player. He doesn't get in his teammates face and his not a leader, he gets in them and he's being a whiner.
3) Adding to the poise conversation, do you not remember 2011 when they got humbled against the Mavs? He sat on the bench, poised as all hell as he watched the Mavs dismantle his team in five games you know what he did after that? Won two straight MVPs, won a gold medal, and won two straight NBA championships, THAT shows me what Lebron is about.
4) Name me two players that are stars the quality of Lebron that aren't primmadonnas.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 24, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
1) You'd bitch and moan too if you were the only player playing your heart out in a win or go home game. The dude put up 18 in the first quarter of that game, the rest of the team struggled to put together another 10 points. It was Cleveland all over again in that series, and he left Cleveland so that'd never happen to him again
2) You don't have to show poise in that situation, like I said, he left Cleveland on the promise that he'd never have to carry a team like he did, ever again and lo and behold, four years later and he has to. I said this elsewhere but Lebron has it harder than any other player who ever played that was considered great because of the internet and people like us who criticize every moment of his career. He laughs during a loss, and he gets branded as not caring enough. He involves his teammates in a loss and people say "if he just controlled the ball the whole game, they'd have won. Lebron doesn't have the killer instinct". He set the tone for his team and they do little to support him and he gets called out for not being a team player. He doesn't get in his teammates face and his not a leader, he gets in them and he's being a whiner.
3) Adding to the poise conversation, do you not remember 2011 when they got humbled against the Mavs? He sat on the bench, poised as all hell as he watched the Mavs dismantle his team in five games you know what he did after that? Won two straight MVPs, won a gold medal, and won two straight NBA championships, THAT shows me what Lebron is about.
4) Name me two players that are stars the quality of Lebron that aren't primmadonnas.
1. Well it happened to him again and he'll probably leave again. The Decision was the biggest ego trip I've ever seen. Hopefully it's not another ESPN special if he leaves this time.
2. Lebron has it hard? You forget about Kobe who's been around longer than Lebron and dealing with it longer than Lebron. Don't give me that Lebron has it harder than anybody else nonsense because I think Kobe has had it harder. Lebron only has taken over the top spot here recently because of Kobe's Lakers' lack of success. Lebron brought that criticism on himself in my opinion with The Decision. That's when the majority of the criticism started.
3. I disagree about him having poise. Talent, yes, but poise definitely not. Tim Duncan, who is 38 mind you, came back from last season's Finals heartache and helped lead his team to a 5th championship. NONE of this titles have been back to back. He's done this in the past multiple times in his career and I consider that more impressive than what Lebron has done as it relates to this considering he stayed on the same team. The same can be said for Kobe Bryant who's seen his share of drama and Finals heartbreak. To me both of them have more poise than Lebron. And I don't think Lebron has poise, he has talent. LOTS of talent but I don't think he has the mental toughness of Kobe and Duncan. They're old school mentality. Lebron's in the hot potato era where "superstars" change teams like it's musical chairs.
4. Tim Duncan and Chris Paul are two that come to mind off the top of my head. I'll even throw Durant in there as a third option in this.
You realize the social media has only been like this for like, two, maybe three years. Kobe had it easy, during his prime, when he was at his ultimate anti-teammate peak, he would have been torn a part.
I can't defend the Decision, even Lebron can't, he admits it was a mistake.
I don't think you truly understand the meaning of Poise if you said Kobe is poise
And CP is a primadonna.
EDIT: Dunno where the rest of that went, but Duncan and KD aren't, so I'll give you that.
Lebron James wears Kobe Bryant pajamas to bed.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 24, 2014, 09:26:12 PM
You realize the social media has only been like this for like, two, maybe three years. Kobe had it easy, during his prime, when he was at his ultimate anti-teammate peak, he would have been torn a part.
I can't defend the Decision, even Lebron can't, he admits it was a mistake.
I don't think you truly understand the meaning of Poise if you said Kobe is poise
And CP is a primadonna.
EDIT: Dunno where the rest of that went, but Duncan and KD aren't, so I'll give you that.
Two or three years? Going to have to disagree. Myspace has been around since 2003 and the year after that podcasting began. Twitter and Youtube began all around that same time as well.
Kobe IS poise. The guy isn't called the Black Mamba for nothing.
Quote from: Jon on June 24, 2014, 09:45:30 PM
Lebron James wears Kobe Bryant pajamas to bed.
LOL +1
He's gonna restructure his deal to clear more cap space for the Heat. Maybe he'll also get more money overall? Sure, he's a superstar. He still wants to win Championships, and he'll do what he thinks he needs to do to make that happen.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 24, 2014, 09:57:25 PM
Two or three years? Going to have to disagree. Myspace has been around since 2003 and the year after that podcasting began. Twitter and Youtube began all around that same time as well.
Kobe IS poise. The guy isn't called the Black Mamba for nothing.
LOL +1
Created =/= being big. Facebook was created in 2004, yet, wasn't the thing it was for about 3 or 4 years, the reason why I know this was because I was in high school, beginning of sophomore year when I got one. Twitter didn't become what it is now until 2010 at the earliest. I mean by the time Facebook got popular, is the same time MySpace started to die out. Just because you were on it at the time because you were on the internet at the time doesn't mean it hit the mainstream public like it has now.
And Poise means
poise1 [poiz] Show IPA
noun
1.
a state of balance or equilibrium, as from equality or equal distribution of weight; equipoise.
2.
a dignified, self-confident manner or bearing; composure; self-possession: to show poise in company.
3.
steadiness; stability: intellectual poise.
4.
suspense or wavering, as between rest and motion or two phases of motion: the poise of the tides.
5.
the way of being poised, held, or carried.
He's not stable, he's not in a state of balance or equilbrium. He's called the black mamba because he's a lethal basketball player, he's a killer sort of like the snake he's named after.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 24, 2014, 11:39:45 PM
Created =/= being big. Facebook was created in 2004, yet, wasn't the thing it was for about 3 or 4 years, the reason why I know this was because I was in high school, beginning of sophomore year when I got one. Twitter didn't become what it is now until 2010 at the earliest. I mean by the time Facebook got popular, is the same time MySpace started to die out. Just because you were on it at the time because you were on the internet at the time doesn't mean it hit the mainstream public like it has now.
And Poise means
poise1 [poiz] Show IPA
noun
1.
a state of balance or equilibrium, as from equality or equal distribution of weight; equipoise.
2.
a dignified, self-confident manner or bearing; composure; self-possession: to show poise in company.
3.
steadiness; stability: intellectual poise.
4.
suspense or wavering, as between rest and motion or two phases of motion: the poise of the tides.
5.
the way of being poised, held, or carried.
He's not stable, he's not in a state of balance or equilbrium. He's called the black mamba because he's a lethal basketball player, he's a killer sort of like the snake he's named after.
What does me being on any of those sites have to do with this? That has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. There was social media back then and it was becoming increasingly popular. Also let me point out that the Lakers won the 2009 and 2010 championships so by your definition of the timeline Kobe would be under the media microscope as much as Lebron is since he was the biggest player at the time it became really big.
I know what it means, TJ. Posting the definition doesn't mean you're right. How do you think he became the Black Mamba? Because he's poised when the game is on the line. That's the DEFINITION of poise. I don't know where you're getting this "he's not stable" stuff from as it relates to Kobe. If he wasn't poised then he wouldn't be able to go for the kill like he does during games.
You brought up Myspace first and youtube and twitter, which was made 3 years after Myspace. I'm saying that Kobe, at his worst when social media would rip him apart, was not what it is today, society was not was it was, I'm talking society, not the sports world. Yes the sports world ripped him a part when he was cursing out a young Bynum and demanding trades, but the social landscape has changed far more than what you seem to believe in the last 3 or 4 years.
Increasingly popular from nothing is not being used in all forms of media, news papers, sportscenter, blogs, websites. Lebron can not take a shit in peace without his twitter blowing up saying he's not efforting enough, how MJ's shit would have been nice and even and how Kobe's would have came out brown instead of black that day.
The argument I made at the beginning is that if Kobe's prime aka post Shaq/Jackson and about 2009 were in the middle of the now, with social media what it is now, Kobe would be considered far worse than a ball hog who has a joke controller where the only button is the shoot button. I mean, look at what happens any time Lebron yells at Mario Chalmers, and imagine what would happen when Kobe would yell at Smush or Kwame.
I'm saying perception of Lebron, and a lot of people now a days, is so misconstrued because of social media and how every idiot (myself included) has a voice and people who agree with them, simply press a button and boom 5 minutes later, the idiot who said that Lebron is teh softest player in the league has 4K retweets. I'm not saying Kobe, MJ, Pippin, Thomas, Bird, Magic would have caved under that sort of shit day in and day out, but they wouldn't have been the same perceived players. Hell when Magic came out with AIDS, you realize the homophobic shit storm that would have happened on Twitter that day? When MJ retired the first time, amid the gambling rumors that lead to his father's death, you imagine the amount of MJ gambling shit that would have happened on Facebook? Lebron says I'm taking my talents to south beach, the organization holds a party to welcome where he says something stupid and he never lives it down. That's the worst Lebron has done. Compare that to Magic's massive affairs that lead to his AIDS and MJ's rumored gambling debts that lead to his father being murdered and the 24/7 media and social media would have ran those guys down so much that the NBA have had to take action to simply save face on a business side of things.
TL;DR The media today, both social and otherwise, would affected the way we look at guys like Magic and Jordan
Ladies, ladies, you BOTH look pretty.
Kobes rape trial would have been much more mainstream. That we can agree on.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 25, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
You brought up Myspace first and youtube and twitter, which was made 3 years after Myspace. I'm saying that Kobe, at his worst when social media would rip him apart, was not what it is today, society was not was it was, I'm talking society, not the sports world. Yes the sports world ripped him a part when he was cursing out a young Bynum and demanding trades, but the social landscape has changed far more than what you seem to believe in the last 3 or 4 years.
You must be completely forgetting the 2004 NBA Finals when the Pistons beat the Lakers and there was a huge rift between Kobe and Shaq that was all over the media at the time. He got ripped apart and blamed for most of that debacle. Why are you acting like I'm out of touch with reality as it relates to social media when I'm clearly not? I brought up Myspace, Youtube, and Twitter because you, not me, brought up social media initially.
In fact here's a complete history of social media complete with dates and all in chronological order too.
http://www2.uncp.edu/home/acurtis/NewMedia/SocialMedia/SocialMediaHistory.html (http://www2.uncp.edu/home/acurtis/NewMedia/SocialMedia/SocialMediaHistory.html)
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 25, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
Increasingly popular from nothing is not being used in all forms of media, news papers, sportscenter, blogs, websites. Lebron can not take a shit in peace without his twitter blowing up saying he's not efforting enough, how MJ's shit would have been nice and even and how Kobe's would have came out brown instead of black that day.
Does Tim Duncan, who's won FIVE titles, have this problem? No. Does Durant? No. Why? Because they learned to keep their shit in order in the public spectrum. Lebron's wife is posting Akron shirts thus creating a Lebron to the Cavs rumor and The Decision on ESPN are two examples as to why this is going on. That creates this kind of attention on a player. Like I said he brought it on himself from the start the moment the Decision took place.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 25, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
The argument I made at the beginning is that if Kobe's prime aka post Shaq/Jackson and about 2009 were in the middle of the now, with social media what it is now, Kobe would be considered far worse than a ball hog who has a joke controller where the only button is the shoot button. I mean, look at what happens any time Lebron yells at Mario Chalmers, and imagine what would happen when Kobe would yell at Smush or Kwame.
LOL there's a difference. NOBODY cares about Smush and Kwame. Kwame is one of the worst players that I've ever seen and Smush was decent at best. Chalmers at least has some big game performances to his credit but he's way better than those two you mentionned and that's saying a lot considering that he's decent at best during the regular season. Kobe also had his sex scandal and that was all over the place so it's not like he hasn't been destroyed in social media because back then they ripped him apart for that.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 25, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
I'm saying perception of Lebron, and a lot of people now a days, is so misconstrued because of social media and how every idiot (myself included) has a voice and people who agree with them, simply press a button and boom 5 minutes later, the idiot who said that Lebron is teh softest player in the league has 4K retweets. I'm not saying Kobe, MJ, Pippin, Thomas, Bird, Magic would have caved under that sort of shit day in and day out, but they wouldn't have been the same perceived players. Hell when Magic came out with AIDS, you realize the homophobic shit storm that would have happened on Twitter that day? When MJ retired the first time, amid the gambling rumors that lead to his father's death, you imagine the amount of MJ gambling shit that would have happened on Facebook? Lebron says I'm taking my talents to south beach, the organization holds a party to welcome where he says something stupid and he never lives it down. That's the worst Lebron has done. Compare that to Magic's massive affairs that lead to his AIDS and MJ's rumored gambling debts that lead to his father being murdered and the 24/7 media and social media would have ran those guys down so much that the NBA have had to take action to simply save face on a business side of things.
Lebron said they would win six championships in Miami or something along those lines. Lebron isn't innocent in all of this which is my point. His ego got out of control and he's been scrutinized heavily ever since. So you're acting like there wasn't a shit storm when Magic said he had AIDS? Other players didn't want to play with him back then. It was a huge scandal. Everybody was talking about it and it was a media firestorm over the AIDS issue. No, you're wrong. Lebron's ego has kept it going. The Decision and the boasting of all the championships they would win in Miami had a lot to do with what's going on now. Don't forget about the other scandals of the NBA back in the day such as Charles Barkley spitting at a child, Patrick Ewing and others getting free blowjobs in strip clubs, Dennis Rodman's off court antics, etc. It's not like it wasn't going on and wasn't as big as it is now. It's the same as back in the day as it is now other than more places to talk about things on.
But let me set one thing straight. Jordan's father killed because of his gambling? I think not. I don't know what you think happened but it was a robbery gone wrong as he was parked on the side of the highway after driving home from a funeral.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-01-04/news/9601040169_1_daniel-andre-green-larry-martin-demery-defense-attorney-angus-thompson (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-01-04/news/9601040169_1_daniel-andre-green-larry-martin-demery-defense-attorney-angus-thompson)
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on June 25, 2014, 12:34:57 AM
TL;DR The media today, both social and otherwise, would affected the way we look at guys like Magic and Jordan
I disagree. Both of their faults were widely known because of various events (Magic saying he had AIDS, Jordan's father's death and the media saying it was mobsters when it wasn't, etc.).
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 25, 2014, 01:52:40 AM
Kobes rape trial would have been much more mainstream. That we can agree on.
I think it would be somewhat on par with the Tiger Woods scandal.
You got the inside dish on MJ's gambling and his father's murder? Dude, do JFK next. I've always wondered about that one....
Quote from: Mike Powers on June 25, 2014, 02:12:37 AM
You got the inside dish on MJ's gambling and his father's murder? Dude, do JFK next. I've always wondered about that one....
I guess you didn't read the link...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-01-04/news/9601040169_1_daniel-andre-green-larry-martin-demery-defense-attorney-angus-thompson (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-01-04/news/9601040169_1_daniel-andre-green-larry-martin-demery-defense-attorney-angus-thompson)
However as it relates to gambling I think that was a major issue that was swept under the rug. This is a real interesting read I'd recommend taking a look at as it relates to MJ and his gambling.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension)
Well geez LeBron is a saint compared to MJ and Kobe. Case closed, he's the best ever.
Every star player has to face tribulations. That comes with being an NBA star. Arguing over which tribulations are harder then the other is pretty pointless to me.
If just because you cry on the bench, because you know you fell short of your own personal expectations, that doesn't mean you don't have poise. To me that shows passion for the game they love.
I mean, hell I cry sometimes when I play my heart out in a losing effort. In High School when we were ranked #1 in state and we lost to Beaverton in the flipping second round... you bet your ass I was tearing up. You put so much effort into being the best and for it all to be gone, it sucks. Doesn't mean our team didn't have poise. We just didn't want the season to be over and for some of the guys, it was the last time they played competitive baseball.
When you want something so bad... like in this case, the NBA Championship. Sometimes emotions get the better of you and I think that's what makes sports beautiful. It's the passion of the game.
Now I don't like Lebron as much as the next guy, for reasons I don't really know. Probably just because I'm a Laker fan and he stole the limelight and a few MVPs from Kobe. But I can't argue his talent, I can't argue his heart, and I can't argue his passion. Has he made silly deicisons, sure. I can't imagine what it feels like to have everything you do looked at under a microscope, but I imagine it sucks, always trying to do the right thing or say the right words because if you don't, you get lashed out against. Part of being human is making mistakes and learning from them. And I think Lebron has come a long way from the kid that joined the NBA out of high school.
Heat seek Shabazz Napier in draft
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QuoteThe Miami Heat have started the process of courting LeBron James with an aggressive attempt to move up in Thursday's NBA draft, with their target being former UConn point guard Shabazz Napier, league sources said.
James' agent told the Heat on Tuesday that the four-time NBA MVP will opt out of his contract and become a free agent July 1. The move, however, does not mean James has decided to leave Miami, sources said.
Both James and the Heat are fans of Napier.
James tweeted during the NCAA title game in April: "No way u take a PG in the lottery before Napier."
Heat president Pat Riley, meanwhile, also is fond of Napier. Riley likes four-year players who can come in and contribute right away.
Right after the NBA Finals, Riley flew out to work out Napier, a Heat source told ESPN.com. After the workout, the Heat tried to convince the former Huskies star to stop his workouts so that he'd fall to the Heat with pick No. 26.
The Heat, though, are probably too late.
Napier has been one of the hottest names in the NBA draft the past few weeks, and there's almost no chance he falls to the 26th pick.
Teams as high as the Orlando Magic at No. 12, the Atlanta Hawks at No. 15, the Chicago Bulls at No. 16 and the Boston Celtics at No. 17 are all seriously considering drafting Napier, according to various team sources. And it's unlikely he slides past the Toronto Raptors at No. 21.
Moving up in the draft, however, will be difficult for the Heat.
They have the 26th pick and point guard Norris Cole to offer a team -- but that's about it. If Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh opt out, Justin Hamilton will be the only player the Heat have under contract for next season. And the team can't offer Wade or Bosh in a trade until the players officially decide whether or not to opt out by Monday. The team can't even offer a first-rounder next season because the Cleveland Cavaliers have the Heat's pick in 2015 if it falls between Nos. 11-30.
Will a package of Cole, No. 26 and a first-round pick in 2017 be enough to lure a team into a deal? The Bulls and Celtics have been exploring trade options and could be enticed. Chicago is looking for a backup point guard to Derrick Rose, but it may get stronger offers from elsewhere.
Clippers looking to make a move
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QuoteThe Los Angeles Clippers have strong interest in pursuing LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony if they can clear the requisite salary cap space to make a maximum-level offer to the superstars, who have both elected to become free agents starting July 1.
One player they have no interest in moving, however, is forward Blake Griffin. While the Clippers would need to move significant players and money to make a run at either James or Anthony, sources told ESPN that Clippers president and coach Doc Rivers has told Griffin on numerous occasions that he considers him "untouchable" in any trade.
The Clippers have $76 million committed in salaries for next season. That figure will decrease to $71.7 million after Darren Collison, Glen Davis and Danny Granger opt out of their contracts for next season, meaning the Clippers likely would have to trade some combination of prized young center DeAndre Jordan (one year, $11.4 million), Jared Dudley (three years, $12.1 million), Matt Barnes (three years, $10.1 million), Jamal Crawford (three years, $16.3 million) or J.J. Redick (four years, $27.7 million) to facilitate a deal.
The Clippers' discussions about making a run at James or Anthony have been internal thus far; however, sources said the team has engaged in trade discussions this spring with the Orlando Magic regarding shooting guard Arron Afflalo. Those conversations were initially rebuffed by the Magic, who didn't like the package of assets the Clippers could offer, sources said. However, there was some sense the clubs could revisit those talks later if they morphed into a three-team discussion.
The Clippers have coveted former UCLA star Afflalo for several years, coming close to trading for him last summer before the deal -- which included Eric Bledsoe and Caron Butler -- was shut down by owner Donald Sterling, sources said. Sterling has since been banned for life from the NBA for racist comments.
ESPN reported in February that if James were to leave Miami, the Clippers would be among his preferred destinations because of the strength of their roster and his close relationships with Chris Paul and coach Doc Rivers. Paul is one of James' best friends and the two have talked about playing with each other since they were in high school, when they met on the AAU and prep all-star circuits. Paul is godfather to James' son Bryce and they were in each other's weddings.
The Clippers have a similar interest in Anthony, who is close with both Paul and Griffin, but it would be too difficult to clear enough salary cap space to pursue both James and Anthony in tandem.
Cavs torn on No. 1 heading into draft
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http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11127401/cleveland-cavaliers-torn-draft-first (http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11127401/cleveland-cavaliers-torn-draft-first)
QuoteWith only one day remaining until the NBA draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers' ownership and front office remain torn on whether to select Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker with the top overall pick, multiple sources told ESPN.com.
Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert favors drafting Wiggins with the No. 1 pick after the former Kansas star's terrific workout last Wednesday, according to multiple sources.
In advance of Thursday's NBA draft, Chad Ford ranks draft prospects by predicted NBA performance. Story
Kevin Pelton uses his SCHOENE projection system to compare the top draft prospects to NBA players. Story Insider
However, the majority of the Cavs' front office -- including new general manager David Griffin -- is leaning toward selecting Parker, sources said.
Parker came in for a workout and was less than stellar, appearing out of shape and even disinterested. Sources told ESPN.com that the former Duke forward prefers to play in Milwaukee Bucks, which is closer to his Chicago home and also a spot in which he can be featured as a go-to player. In an interview with ESPN's Andy Katz, Parker also predicted he would land in Milwaukee.
Sources said that it's still unclear whether Gilbert will overrule Griffin and the Cavs' front office -- as was the case when he offered Kentucky coach John Calipari the coaching job prior to hiring David Blatt.
A year ago, Gilbert allowed his front office and new head coach Mike Brown to make the call, and they chose Anthony Bennett with the top pick. Bennett struggled as a rookie, averaging just 4.2 points and 3.0 rebounds per game last season.
"After what happened last year, he may choose to make the call himself," one source close to the situation told ESPN.com.
There is also the option of trading the No. 1 pick. With multiple trade offers coming in and LeBron James deciding to opt out of his contract with the Miami Heat on Tuesday, the Cavs' decision is complicated.
The Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz have all offered their high lottery picks plus a veteran to move up to No. 1.
Of the offers they've received, a source says the Cavs aren't enamored by either the Sixers' offer (Thaddeus Young and the No. 3 pick) nor the Jazz's offer (Derrick Favors and the No. 5 pick). However, the Cavs do have some interest in the Magic's offer of Arron Afflalo, the No. 4 pick and the No. 12 pick.
The Cavs have strong interest in trying to lure James back to Cleveland this summer and know they need to add more pieces to make the team more attractive. Afflalo is a veteran guard who both defends and shoots the three and would be a nice addition to the Cavs' backcourt.
If the Cavs keep the pick, they also may have to factor in who could help in the process to lure James.
Griffin had decided to choose 7-footer Joel Embiid with the No. 1 pick, sources told ESPN.com. However, that changed when it was discovered that Embiid needed surgery on his foot that could sideline him for much of -- if not his entire -- rookie season.
The combination of Embiid's injury concerns -- a stress fracture in his lower back that sidelined him for the Big 12 and NCAA tournaments as well as the stress fracture in his right foot -- have him out of the equation for the top pick in Thursday's draft.
Since Embiid's foot injury, the Cavaliers front office, according to sources, was leaning toward selecting Parker. The 6-8 forward averaged 19.1 points and 8.7 rebounds as a freshman at Duke last season. He would address some of Cleveland's most pressing needs: shooting, basketball smarts and toughness. If the Cavs lose Luol Deng to free agency as widely expected, they will need help at small forward.
Furthermore, Gilbert has given a mandate to ownership to turn this roster into a playoff squad this season. Parker is, by virtually all accounts, the most NBA-ready prospect in the draft.
However, Parker's workout Friday in Cleveland was a disappointment, according to multiple sources. Parker weighed in at 254 pounds with 11 percent body fat, more than 10 pounds above his playing weight at Duke. One source even went as far as to say that Parker appeared to be "tanking" the workout.
"He was bad," one source told ESPN.com. "He was huffing and puffing early in the workout."
The Cavs also have concerns about which position Parker ultimately will play in the NBA. They, along with other teams, think he'll struggle to guard NBA 3s and ultimately end up playing like a stretch power forward. With Tristan Thompson and Bennett already on the roster, Parker may not be as good of a fit as it first appeared.
Meanwhile, the athletic 6-8 Wiggins went to Cleveland on Wednesday and shot the ball extremely well -- which is considered one of his primary weaknesses. Wiggins also showed off his elite athletic abilities and generally wowed ownership during the workout.
Although Wiggins doesn't yet have the offensive game that Parker does, he is much more athletic and is already an elite defender. The Cavs struggled nightly to guard anyone on the perimeter last season, and Wiggins could change that.
The Cavs also believe that although Wiggins is more of a risk and not as ready as Parker to contribute right away, he has the higher upside.
"You can't base everything on one one-on-none workout," a source said. "But Wiggins was great and Jabari wasn't. It makes an impact. It makes you go back and reassess everything you saw during the year."
Report: Warriors could try to acquire both Kevin Love and LeBron James
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QuoteThe Golden State Warriors could be trying to assemble a super-team, according to ESPN's Chad Ford, who said in a radio interview that they would be in a good position to pursue LeBron James if they were able to acquire Kevin Love, via Diamong Leung of the Bay Area News Group:
The Warriors are still looking to trade for Kevin Love in order to set themselves up to make a run for free agent-to-be LeBron James, ESPN's Chad Ford told ESPN LA 710 AM on Wednesday.
"At the end of the day, I don't think there's a better Kevin Love deal for the Wolves than what the Warriors can offer, and I think the Warriors are very motivated to get Kevin Love in part I think not just because he's an upgrade over David Lee, but in part because I think that now that you can have a Steph Curry and you have a Kevin Love, I think they feel at that point that they could be credible suitors for LeBron James," Ford said.
"There are many suitors that are hoping to be credible suitors for LeBron James, but I think the Warriors can make a compelling case for him if they had Curry and Love. They're perfect complements to LeBron James."
As the Bay Area News Group's Marcus Thompson wrote in a column, a hypothetical lineup with Love, Stephen Curry and Andrew Bogut is more dangerous than what the Miami Heat can offer James, and Golden State wouldn't have a problem adding role players.
If the Warriors get word from LeBron that he's interested, they can quickly pull the trigger on David Lee and Klay Thompson for Kevin Love (and the 2015 first rounder, if required). That would make the Warriors an even more attractive option. They could probably pull the trigger anyway — as a way of making LeBron interested.
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James averaging $24M, plus Love averaging $18M, and Curry averaging $11 million — that's only $53 million of the cap. By comparison, James/Wade/Bosh trio made $57 combined last year.
Throw in Andrew Bogut's average of $12M, and the Warriors' four-man core (James/Curry/Love/Bogut) would cost $65 million over the next three years. (And that's a high estimate because Love would actually make two million less than $18 in his first year with Warriors).
With the increased salary cap, that leaves the Warriors with $12 million before the luxury tax to fill out the roster. So there'd be plenty room to lock up Draymond Green, get a back-up point guard, keep Festus Ezeli, etc.
Before Warriors fans get carried away, it should be noted that this is a longshot and there have been no definitive reports of Golden State discussing this plan or James being interested in it. He reportedly opted out in order to put pressure on Miami, not because he wanted to leave. Still, the thought of it is intriguing. Who wouldn't want to watch that team play? Who could stop them from scoring? This is the sort of thing we get to ponder because of James' free agency.
Draft is getting intriguing...
Report: Cavs trying to arrange last-minute Dante Exum workout
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597462/report-cavs-trying-to-arrange-last-minute-dante-exum-workout (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597462/report-cavs-trying-to-arrange-last-minute-dante-exum-workout)
QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers are trying to arrange a last-minute workout and interview with prospect Dante Exum, according to ESPN's Andy Katz:
The Cavaliers, who already have All-Star point guard Kyrie Irving, are unlikely to take Exum with the No. 1 pick, but he could be an option for the team if it trades down in the draft.
Multiple sources have told ESPN that Cleveland has a few offers for the No. 1 pick, including potential trades with the Magic and the Utah Jazz, who pick at No. 5. If Cleveland holds on to the selection, it is deciding between former Kansas star Andrew Wiggins and Duke's Jabari Parker at No. 1, sources have said.
It is unlikely that Exum will make the trip to Cleveland without assurance that the team has a deal in place to trade down and pick him, according to ESPN.
Most likely, Exum will be selected No. 3 by the Philadelphia 76ers or No. 4 by the Orlando Magic. Crazier things have happened, though. If the Cavaliers like him, why not trade down and acquire another asset? That's preferable to taking him at No. 1, especially for a franchise that has reached so often in recent years.
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Mavs on verge of deal with Knicks
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QuoteThe Dallas Mavericks are on the verge of reacquiring center Tyson Chandler from the New York Knicks, according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Mavericks, who immediately made reacquiring Chandler one of their priorities after their first-round playoffs exit to San Antonio, soon will complete a trade with the Knicks that they will clinch by agreeing to take back the contract of New York's out-of-favor guard Raymond Felton, as well.
The trade is expected to cost Dallas two starters -- point guard Jose Calderon and center Samuel Dalembert -- along with prized young point guard Shane Larkin, reserve guard Wayne Ellington and future second-round draft compensation.
Chandler is the player Dallas has missed most since it decided to let go several key contributors in free agency after the team's championship run in 2011.
Chandler, 31, wound up landing a four-year, $60 million deal in free agency with the Knicks that year that has one season remaining.
The departures of Chandler and Felton are believed to be just the start of a roster overhaul by new Knicks president Phil Jackson, with Jackson pursing as much salary-cap flexibility as he can in hopes of convincing star free agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony to stay.
What are the Mavs thinking on that one? They aren't in position to win a title, so why would they want Chandler?
As for the Clippers article... how is anyone untouchable when you might have a chance to get LeBron? Last time I checked he's a better player than Griffin.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 25, 2014, 04:53:59 PM
What are the Mavs thinking on that one? They aren't in position to win a title, so why would they want Chandler?
As for the Clippers article... how is anyone untouchable when you might have a chance to get LeBron? Last time I checked he's a better player than Griffin.
Because they want to give Dirk one last legit run at a title, which last time i check, they have one of the best coaches in the league who figured out Monta Ellis and one of the better offenses in the league last year, one so much so, they pushed San Antonio to seven games and really should have won looking back at a missed "too many on the floor" call by the refs against the Spurs. You add CHandler who still is a rim protector and defensive anchor, and you add a guy like Deng or even Ariza to help out and you're looking at a contending team.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 25, 2014, 04:53:59 PM
What are the Mavs thinking on that one? They aren't in position to win a title, so why would they want Chandler?
As for the Clippers article... how is anyone untouchable when you might have a chance to get LeBron? Last time I checked he's a better player than Griffin.
Yes he is but Blake is the reason Lebron would come to LA.
Out of all the scenarios I like the Warriors one the best. They are sitting in a great position to make some moves and have the cap space to make it work.
The Warriors would be tough in that scenario. Having Curry on the outside would give LeBron more room to work his way to the rim and finish inside, and Love is there not only as an offensive force but as a hell of a rebounder. The only concern I would have on that trio is that Curry and Love aren't known for being good defenders, but a team defensive scheme can be implemented to help them overcome their shortcomings by allowing LeBron to roam and help them out.
Also as it relates to the Knicks I think they're trying to shore some stuff up, get some picks, and get something going with Carmelo leaving. It's a smart move considering they need to rebuild and do it quickly.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 25, 2014, 04:53:59 PM
As for the Clippers article... how is anyone untouchable when you might have a chance to get LeBron? Last time I checked he's a better player than Griffin.
I heard they're looking to move Jordan if that were to happen.
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 25, 2014, 05:00:13 PM
Yes he is but Blake is the reason Lebron would come to LA.
Actually I think Lebron is wanting to play with Chris Paul, not Griffin.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 25, 2014, 05:08:34 PM
The Warriors would be tough in that scenario. Having Curry on the outside would give LeBron more room to work his way to the rim and finish inside, and Love is there not only as an offensive force but as a hell of a rebounder. The only concern I would have on that trio is that Curry and Love aren't known for being good defenders, but a team defensive scheme can be implemented to help them overcome their shortcomings by allowing LeBron to roam and help them out.
Man, a great defensive coach would have done wonders for that team....you know, like the one they fired after two straight 50 win seasons.
NBA becoming more like the FBL which each passing day...just needs Chris Mullin to invent a board game and have sex with Reggie Miller's sister...
I think LeBron would want CP3 and Griffin there if he were to go to LA. If they could deal Jordan plus some role players (I'd keep Reddick for the shooting ability) then that would be an attractive option.
As for the Lakers rumors, not happening. Why would he want to team with a 35 year old Kobe who's got bad knees and is going to make 24 million? If he's not happy with Wade's limited availability he'll go nuts with Kobe.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 25, 2014, 05:14:32 PM
I heard they're looking to move Jordan if that were to happen.
Actually I think Lebron is wanting to play with Chris Paul, not Griffin.
Hed want to play with both.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on June 25, 2014, 05:16:30 PM
NBA becoming more like the FBL which each passing day...just needs Chris Mullin to invent a board game and have sex with Reggie Miller's sister...
Cheryl Miller is too strong for Chris Mullin. I always imagined Mike Flips as Steve Kerr. He is a failed GM after all
I agree. Lebron ain't playing for the Lakers.
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on June 25, 2014, 05:16:30 PM
NBA becoming more like the FBL which each passing day...just needs Chris Mullin to invent a board game and have sex with Reggie Miller's sister...
LOL I agree with this too.
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 25, 2014, 05:20:05 PM
Hed want to play with both.
True but he's a long time friend of Chris Paul so that's why I mentionned it. It was in an article I read about the possibility of him going to the Clippers.
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Report: LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh meet in Miami
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597560/report-lebron-james-dwyane-wade-chris-bosh-meet-in-miami (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597560/report-lebron-james-dwyane-wade-chris-bosh-meet-in-miami)
QuoteLeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh gathered in Miami on Wednesday, as reported by the Miami Herald's Lesley Abravanel and confirmed by Bleacher Report's Ethan Skolnick.
The Miami Heat trio can all opt out of their current contracts and become free agents on July 1. James, as you're no doubt aware, has already done so. The meeting was expected at some point before free agency begins.
Bosh has been vocal about wanting to come back to Miami, and there's no real downside to him opting out, as there will be plenty of suitors willing to offer him a maximum contract. Wade, who at 32 years old is owed almost $42 million over the next two seasons, has some incentive to opt in. All three of them opting out would give the Heat the most flexibility to upgrade their roster.
The plot thickens...
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Report: Heat, Cavs, Rockets, Knicks, Nets top LeBron's list, not Clippers
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597623/report-heat-cavs-rockets-knicks-nets-top-lebrons-list-not-clippers (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24597623/report-heat-cavs-rockets-knicks-nets-top-lebrons-list-not-clippers)
QuoteESPN reports that the Miami Heat, Cleveland Cavaliers, New York Knicks, and Brooklyn Nets top LeBron James' list of potential free agent destinations, in that order, and that the Clippers, surprisingly, are not at the top of that list.
As mentioned above, I'm told the Clippers are not among James' most preferred destinations. While James and Clippers point guard Chris Paul are great friends, there are concerns about the compatibility of their games. Paul is not as capable of excelling off the ball as Wade was when he adjusted to playing with James.
Beyond that, there is still the very real problem of Donald Sterling's shadow hovering over the Clippers. I was not told that this would be an issue, but as outspoken as James was about wanting Sterling out of the league, it seems implausible that he would willingly go play for the Clippers until Sterling's ouster is complete. That is not likely to happen before July 8.
via NBA - Possible landing spots for LeBron James - ESPN.
That contradicts an earlier report that James did in fact find the Clippers intriguing. The Clippers reportedly have interest too, but aren't willing to give up Blake Griffin for the best player in the world.
It's also surprising since LA is the perfect market for him. He has big entertainment plans, and has long been interested in the industry. He even had his own cartoon show. The Clippers would give him his best friend in Chris Paul, a coach he adores in Doc Rivers, and the lifestyle he wants. So them being off the list, despite multiple indications over the past few months that they are under consideration, is weird.
Meanwhile, the Knicks and Nets, even after the Knicks' trade of Tyson Chandler and Jose Calderon, would have to come pretty close to melting the constraints of mathematics to get room for Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James, and that's the only way James goes for that. The Nets would have to surrender all of their talent to make room for James, and have very little in the way of assets to rebuild in the future.
The Cavs and Heat may be what it comes down to, but the Rockets possibility hangs, specifically with this idea from the report. The Rockets trade Asik and Lin to create room to sign one of Anthony and James, then do a sign-and-trade of James Harden for the other one. It's a fascinating possibility that could see Harden moved to New York or Miami. Houston is reportedly on the list of teams Carmelo Anthony intends to meet with.
The plot thickens, as The Decision 2.0 rolls on, with Miami still the heavy favorite to retain LeBron James.
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Source: No favorite for Carmelo
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11135474/carmelo-anthony-plans-visit-houston-rockets-dallas-mavericks-chicago-bulls (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11135474/carmelo-anthony-plans-visit-houston-rockets-dallas-mavericks-chicago-bulls)
QuoteCarmelo Anthony has decided to visit the Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks and Chicago Bulls once teams are allowed to meet with free agents on July 1, according to league sources.
The meetings have not been set up because the teams are not yet allowed to contact free agents. But Anthony has decided he will give those three teams a chance to recruit him when they are able to. Anthony's camp informed the Knicks of his decision to visit the three teams.
While there has been speculation that Chicago is at the top of Anthony's list of potential destinations, one source said there is no true favorite in his mind.
The New York Knicks, who can offer Anthony $33 million more than any other team, are also still very much alive in bringing back the All-Star forward.
Though the Los Angeles Lakers are not on Anthony's current list, Kobe Bryant plans to recruit him to the team. Bryant, who is close with Anthony, spoke to him by telephone when they were in separate parts of Europe earlier this week.
Bryant told ESPN.com in a text message that he plans to meet with Anthony, as well.
For all the talk about Anthony joining LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami next season, sources said there has been no talk about going to the Heat from Anthony.
While there are still chances for other opportunities to develop, the Rockets, Mavericks and Bulls appear to be the Knicks' biggest challengers thus far.
"Those three teams plus the Knicks seem to be the ones he's going to consider," one source said.
I have Lebron fatigue already.
Dont be surprissd if the Clips make a move to dump Dudley or Riddick for Afflalo ... love me some Aaron Afflalo
That would be a good move for them. Affalo was really good last year.
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Mavericks, Knicks pull off big trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11135060/dallas-mavericks-talks-acquire-tyson-chandler-raymond-felton-new-york-knicks (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11135060/dallas-mavericks-talks-acquire-tyson-chandler-raymond-felton-new-york-knicks)
QuoteThe Mavericks and the New York Knicks have consummated a six-player trade that sends center Tyson Chandler back to Dallas.
The Mavericks, who immediately made reacquiring Chandler one of their priorities after their first-round playoff exit against San Antonio, completed a trade with the Knicks that was clinched by agreeing to take back the contract of New York's out-of-favor guard Raymond Felton as well.
The trade cost Dallas two starters -- point guard Jose Calderon and center Samuel Dalembert -- along with prized young point guard Shane Larkin, reserve guard Wayne Ellington and the 34th and 51st picks in Thursday's draft.
Chandler is the player Dallas has missed most since it decided to let go several key contributors in free agency after the team's championship run in 2011.
Chandler, 31, wound up landing a four-year, $60 million deal in free agency with the Knicks that year, a deal that has one season remaining.
The departures of Chandler and Felton are believed to be just the start of a roster overhaul by new Knicks president Phil Jackson, with Jackson pursing as much salary-cap flexibility as he can in the hopes of convincing star free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony to stay.
"The journey to build this team for the upcoming season and beyond continues," Jackson said in the announcement. "We have added players with this move that will fit right in to our system while maintaining future flexibility.
"We would like to thank Raymond and Tyson for their time and hard work with the organization over the past few years."
If the Knicks keep all players acquired in the deal they will have saved $3 million in cap space for this summer but forfeited $5.2 million in cap space in the summer of 2015, when they are expected to chase big-name free agents. The Knicks are currently over the salary cap and will only be able to use trade exceptions to lure free agents this summer.
The Mavericks will have approximately $26.5 million in salary cap space before re-signing Dirk Nowitzki to a hometown discount deal. A source told ESPNDallas.com that the Mavs' front office is optimistic that the addition of Chandler significantly increases the team's odds of successfully recruiting LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony, two superstars available in free agency.
"It makes us real players for LeBron and Carmelo," the source said, adding that pairing one of the perennial All-Star small forwards with Nowitzki and Chandler could give Dallas the NBA's premier frontcourt.
With Chandler entering the final season of his contract, the Mavs then also would be positioned to make a run next summer at another premier free agent, such as Kevin Love, Marc Gasol or Dallas native LaMarcus Aldridge.
Chandler was the emotional catalyst for the Nowitzki-led Mavericks when they beat the Miami Heat in six games to win the franchise's first title in 2011.
Mavericks owner Mark Cuban made the much-debated decision not to offer him a long-term contract because of concerns over how the new labor deal would keep Dallas from making other moves. Chandler, who had a history of injuries, turned down a one-year deal worth about $20 million for the security of the four-year contract with the Knicks.
The 31-year-old Chandler is going into the final season of that deal at $14.5 million, and Felton has one year at $3.8 million with a player option for another season in the same range.
Calderon just finished the first season of a four-year, $28 million contract with the Mavericks, who also signed Monta Ellis to a multiyear deal last summer. It was the first time Dallas had committed to any player beyond one year since Nowitzki signed his most recent extension in 2010.
Nowitzki will join Anthony in free agency, but he is expected to re-sign with the Mavericks.
The Knicks are getting one of the best 3-pointer shooters and a steady hand at the point in Calderon, but he sometimes sat late in close games because he was a defensive liability. He averaged 11.4 points and shot 45 percent from 3-point range last season.
Felton is coming off a trouble-plagued season that included his arrest in February in a felony gun possession case. He was expected to plead guilty in exchange for community service and a $5,000 fine.
Felton, who turns 30 on Thursday, averaged a career-low 9.7 points and saw a significant drop in his shooting percentage last season.
Dalembert had an up-and-down season in the first year of a two-year deal with Dallas, while Larkin and Ellington were used sparingly.
Larkin, the son of Hall of Fame shortstop Barry Larkin and a first-round pick a year ago, saw his playing time drop dramatically when Devin Harris returned from toe surgery at midseason.
Harris is a free agent and wants to return to Dallas, but he would like the three-year contract he and the Mavericks agreed to last year before the toe injury scuttled the deal. He settled for a one-year contract.
The Houston Rockets have traded Omer Asik to the New Orleans Pelicans for a future first round pick.
Edit: Here's the update on this...
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Report: Rockets finalizing deal to send Omer Asik to New Orleans for future pick
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/25/report-rockets-finalizing-deal-to-send-omer-asik-to-new-orleans-for-future-pick/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/25/report-rockets-finalizing-deal-to-send-omer-asik-to-new-orleans-for-future-pick/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteLast season I thought New Orleans was going to impress but injuries stalled out everything but Anthony Davis' development. Now, watch New Orleans to make a playoff push next year.
The Pelicans just got a roster upgrade and the Rockets are clearing cap space to go big game hunting as the result of a deal being finalized that sends center Omer Asik to New Orleans, something first reported by Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
The Pelicans are sending back a future first round pick to Houston.
I like this deal for the Rockets in the sense this is what they have to do to chase Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James as free agents this summer, to form their own "big three" with James Harden and Dwight Howard. That requiresa lot of cap space — Asik is scheduled to make $8.4 million on the cap next season (his actual payout is closer to $15 million due to a poison pill in his offer sheet). The Rockets wipe that off the books, now also must find a taker for Jeremy Lin where they also take no money back.
I really like this for New Orleans.
The Pelicans want to play Anthony Davis at the four, he has the midrange game on offense and can be more of a come from the weak side shot blocker on defense (think Serge Ibaka when Kendrick Perkins plays). This pairing gives the Pelicans a potentially impressive defensive front line to pair with the backcourt rotation of Jrue Holiday, Eric Gordon and Tyreke Evans.
Quote from: Mike Powers on June 25, 2014, 07:40:17 PM
I have Lebron fatigue already.
Prepare to be pretty tired...
The Charlotte Hornets unveiled their new court design today.
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Hornets unveil new court design
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11139217/charlotte-hornets-unveil-new-basketball-court-design (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11139217/charlotte-hornets-unveil-new-basketball-court-design)
QuoteCHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Charlotte Hornets unveiled a new basketball court design Thursday that features a fierce-looking hornet logo at center court.
It's the final step in the team's brand identity transformation from the Bobcats to the Hornets.
The hard maple court also includes a beehive cell pattern stained into the wood, a teal border and purple free throw lanes. The baselines have "Charlotte" and "Hornets" written in the team's font. There's a pair of Buzz City logos inside the 3-point line on both ends of the court.
"When we look at our primary logo in the center, it depicts how we want to play as a team with the fierceness, the tenacity and a sense of protect this place," Hornets president and CEO Fred Whitfield said.
Hornets chief marketing officer Pete Guelli said the team wanted to keep the floor simple and classy, while emphasizing the brand identity of the team. He believes the cell pattern on the floor along with the team's logo -- one that was released earlier this year -- emphasized that focus.
"The floor is normally the first thing fans will see when they enter the arena," Guelli said.
The new wood playing surface is constructed from northern hard maple and is made up of more than 200 4-foot by 8-foot sectional panels, each of which weigh approximately 175 pounds, according to the team's press release.
It features a new interlocking system designed to speed up arena changeovers.
The floor also is designed with the health of players in mind, absorbing about 60 percent of a player's impact. That is designed to help alleviate wear and tear on the body during an 82-game season.
The court was designed with the input of the Hornets senior executives, the Jordan Brand division of Nike and the NBA's global marketing group.
Arron Afflalo returning to Nuggets
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11139109/denver-nuggets-acquire-arron-afflalo-orlando-magic-according-sources (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11139109/denver-nuggets-acquire-arron-afflalo-orlando-magic-according-sources)
QuoteThe Denver Nuggets have acquired guard Arron Afflalo from the Orlando Magic for guard Evan Fournier and the 56th pick in Thursday night's NBA draft, sources told ESPN.com.
It is a return to Denver for Afflalo, who played with the Nuggets from 2009 to 2012 before being traded to the Magic as part of the Dwight Howard trade. He is coming off a career season in which he averaged 18.2 points.
The Magic seemed eager to move their top returning scorer because he has the option to become a free agent after next season, in which he will earn $7.5 million. He was mentioned often in numerous trade talks in recent days.
The Nuggets acquired Afflalo using a trade exception.
In return, the Magic get the developing Fournier, a native of France who is just 21 years old heading into his third season. The former first-round pick averaged 8.3 points and 2.7 rebounds last season for the Nuggets.
The Magic own the No. 4 and No. 12 picks in the first round of Thursday night's draft. The Nuggets have the No. 11 pick.
Where is the picture?
Can't wait for the season. Justin, we're going to have to hit up some Hornets games!
Quote from: Jon on June 26, 2014, 12:59:26 PM
Yeah.
It's on there...
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 26, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
The Charlotte Hornets unveiled their new court design today.
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NBA Draft in 15 minutes. :D
I'll take a stab at a few picks:
1. Cavs - Wiggins. Highly athletic, gives them a nice wing option to possibly lure LeBron back.
2. Bucks - Parker. More NBA ready than Wiggins, skilled wing player. Not as much upside, but floor is higher.
3. 76ers - Exum. Mystery man from Australia could be a monster guard... or could flame out. Too much potential.
4. Magic - Vonleh. Big man with shooting skill. Could be a nice scorer in the NBA
5. Jazz - Smart. Utah needs better guard play and they go with a skilled combo guard.
6. Celtics - Embiid. A dream as a Celtics fan. I think he might fall here. Could be a monster Center for years.
7. Lakers - Randle. Talented big man who could be a double double machine for years.
Embiid is the big wildcard. Could go anywhere from 1-6. After 7 I have no idea what might happen. Looking for the Celtics to go with TJ Warren at 17. Kid can score.
This is how I have it:
1. Wiggins
2. Parker
3. Exum
4. Smart
5. Randle
6. Embiid
7. Vonleh
8. Gordon
9. McDermott
10. Young
Andrew Wiggins is the first pick in the NBA Draft.
Embiid didn't look happy about being drafted by Philly....
They got a happier look out of him...
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 26, 2014, 07:55:28 PM
Embiid didn't look happy about being drafted by Philly....
Delay.
Sixers may have got a massive steal at #3.
That Embiid pick shot was EPIC.
This was GREAT.
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Celtics got a STEAL in Marcus Smart. The Lakers getting Julius Randle was an excellent pick as well.
Wonder what Smith pick means for Rondo
and Canada Cavaliers
Dario Saric is going to be a great pick. He's the guy I really liked out of the top 10 in this draft. Watch for him in the future.
I LOVE the T.J. Warren pick by the Suns. They're going to be fun to watch especially with adding another scorer.
Jusuf Nurkic is another pick I like. Tough, physical, no nonsense big man. Really a great pick.
Bruno Caboclo...the Brazilian Kevin Durant...who's "two years away from being two years away"...EASILY the ballsiest pick thus far.
A disaster for Toronto. They could have used a guy that could help them next year and instead took someone who will probably never see the NBA.
The Hornets draft Shabazz Napier and the Heat are trading for him? Boo.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on June 26, 2014, 10:06:17 PM
A disaster for Toronto. They could have used a guy that could help them next year and instead took someone who will probably never see the NBA.
LOL exactly. This is a bad pick.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on June 26, 2014, 10:06:17 PM
A disaster for Toronto. They could have used a guy that could help them next year and instead took someone who will probably never see the NBA.
Just another day in Canadian professional sports, Napier was on the board too.
Is Napier the PG LJ likes?
Serbian guard Bogdan Bogdanovic is the steal of the draft. I think this guy's really, really good. The guy is dominant over there and he's young. HUGE pick up for Phoenix. Him and Saric are the two overseas guys I really liked in this draft.
Basically Prancy loves everybody
Quote from: T-Flower on June 26, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Basically Prancy loves everybody
Not really. That Toronto pick was horrendous. I didn't like the PG the Suns got. I think Roberts was taken WAY too high with the four pick. Didn't like the Elfrid Payton pick either. Think he went too high, same with Roberts.
Quote from: Cory on June 26, 2014, 08:38:00 PM
Wonder what Smith pick means for Rondo
and Canada Cavaliers
This means Rondo is gone. They couldn't get the Love deal done, so it's a total rebuild, like the mid-2000s. As a fan it's tough to watch, but if we can get another team like 2008-12 (Title in 08, lost finals in 7 in 10, another conf final) then I'm for blowing it up all the way. Rondo has basically no value to a team with rookies and second year players.
I agree. Now the big question is where does Rondo go?
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 26, 2014, 11:12:24 PM
I agree. Now the big question is where does Rondo go?
TDot if they lose Lowrey
You think he'd be a good fit?
Quote from: Flins. on June 27, 2014, 10:08:08 AM
You think he'd be a good fit?
They need a PG, he'd be the best available IMO...but then again he didnt want to come here last time, saying he wouldnt resign if they picked him up. Raps MUST have wanted Ennis last night.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on June 26, 2014, 10:06:17 PM
A disaster for Toronto. They could have used a guy that could help them next year and instead took someone who will probably never see the NBA.
I thought this international player stuff was over with after the failures Toronto has had in trying to do so. Apparently, different regime, same story..
Even though I wouldnt consider the Raptors my team per se, still want them to do well. STILL cant believe we passed on Napier.
It does seem to be a bit of a cock up this draft. Not sure Rondo is someone who'd work for us (I'm a closet Raptors fan). My NBA knowledge is pretty limited though, so I am most likely wrong haha
Rondo won't want to go to Toronto. He has an inflated opinion of his true worth (saying that as a Celtics fan.)
I could see him ending up with the Lakers. They have roster needs, and I doubt Melo and LeBron are going there. I just don't see it. Celtics could take Nash's contract back in return, with a future 1st rounder or two.
Dallas could have the cap space, and Felton isn't a long term option. Sacramento wants him, but I'm not sure Boston wants what they will offer. If Melo/LeBron falls through for Houston, they'd be an option as well.
He really needs to go to a team where he's the #2 option at best, but he'd be better as the #3 guy. He can distribute the ball excellently, plays good defense, but his scoring is too erratic and his jumper is garbage.
Does he have a no trade? I mean, he could come to Toronto (even if he doesn't want to) if not, though he wouldn't stay beyond his contract. Wouldn't be worth it for Toronto to do.
Hopefully they have some inside track into re-signing Lowry, because they could have grabbed a PG in the draft (Napier is a PG, right?) instead of who they did.
Nope, Rondo does not have a no trade. He only is under contract for one year, which is what will complicate trading him.
I'm really hoping the Lakers make a play on Lowry. Pancho reminded me (grrr) that the Lakers haven't really had a scoring quality PG since Nick Van Exel and it's true. Now Derek Fisher will always have a special place in my Laker portion of my heart, but he had average skill at best.
And then if we could potentially had Melo or LBJ... my God. The Lakers will be back.
But here I am, daydreaming.
Quote from: Jon on June 27, 2014, 01:10:20 PM
I'm really hoping the Lakers make a play on Lowry. Pancho reminded me (grrr) that the Lakers haven't really had a scoring quality PG since Nick Van Exel and it's true. Now Derek Fisher will always have a special place in my Laker portion of my heart, but he had average skill at best.
And then if we could potentially had Melo or LBJ... my God. The Lakers will be back.
But here I am, daydreaming.
Randle was a sexy pickup though.
Randle is a good get.
Melo is a possibility, but LeBron isn't going there.
Oh, I loved the Randle pick.
I really liked Vonleh too and REALLY liked Elfrid Payton. Payton is going to be the steal of this draft class, IMO.
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Zach Randolph to stay with Griz
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11144529/zach-randolph-agrees-two-year-20-million-extension-memphis-grizzlies (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11144529/zach-randolph-agrees-two-year-20-million-extension-memphis-grizzlies)
QuoteZach Randolph has agreed to a two-year, $20 million extension with the Memphis Grizzlies, the former All-Star forward confirmed Friday.
"It's cool, man," Randolph told the Memphis Commercial Appeal. "This is where I want to be."
ESPN.com reported last weekend that the Grizzlies were working to complete a deal by July 1 to keep Randolph from reaching the open market. Sources close to the process said Friday that Randolph agreed to two-year, $20 million extension -- which starts in 2015-16 -- after invoking his $16.5 million player option for next season.
The 32-year-old Randolph averaged 17.4 points and 10.1 rebounds last season, helping Memphis win 50 games, despite Marc Gasol's early-season knee injury, in coach Dave Joerger's first season.
Randolph told ESPN.com as far back as November that he wants to play out the rest of his career in Memphis and hopes to establish a long-term relationship with the franchise similar to what divisional rivals Tim Duncan and Dirk Nowitzki have in San Antonio and Dallas, respectively.
He owns career averages of 17.2 points, 9.4 rebounds and 1.8 assists in 13 NBA seasons with the Portland Trail Blazers, New York Knicks, Los Angeles Clippers and Grizzlies.
I agree about Randle. I think he'll be a great fit for the Lakers. I also really liked what the Celtics did in the draft as well.
In your defense Jon I was wrong though ... the 12 hours you had Chris Paul was the last time you had a decent scoring PG ...
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Quote from: PapaPancho on June 27, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
In your defense Jon I was wrong though ... the 12 hours you had Chris Paul was the last time you had a decent scoring PG ...
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Sim Bhullar Signed by Kings: Latest News, Reaction and Analysis
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QuoteThe biggest man of the 2014 NBA draft is soon to be the biggest man in Sacramento.
Sim Bhullar, a 7'5" New Mexico State center who burst onto the scene at this year's NCAA tournament, wasn't selected in the draft itself, but the Kings will reportedly sign the big man on Friday.
He was not listed among the top 100 players ranked by ESPN's Chad Ford (subscription required), while DraftExpress had him 73rd—well out of the 60-player range selected at Brooklyn's Barclays Center.
Lightly regarded coming out of high school, Bhullar initially committed to Xavier before heading to New Mexico State. Playing near-identical roles in each of his two seasons, he led the Aggies to consecutive NCAA tournament berths and became infamous in college basketball circles for his size.
He's listed at 7'5" and 360 pounds, which would make him instantly the league's biggest player and one of the largest in history.
Eric Bledsoe gets qualifying offer
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QuotePHOENIX -- The Phoenix Suns have extended qualifying offers to point guard Eric Bledsoe and forward P.J. Tucker.
The move was necessary by Monday for the team to retain the rights to the players, who both are restricted free agents.
Both players can sign a contract with another team but the Suns have the right to match it and keep the player.
The free agent period begins Tuesday.
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Source: Heat-Raptors Deal for Kyle Lowry 'Imminent'
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QuoteAn agreement in principle on a deal that would send point guard Kyle Lowry from the Toronto Raptors to the Miami Heat is "imminent," a league source with direct knowledge of the negotiations said Friday.
The deal, which will consist of the Raptors signing and trading Lowry in exchange for Heat point guard Norris Cole, cash and a combination of future draft picks, can't be officially consummated until sometime after July 1 because Miami is currently over the salary cap and must sort out its position with its existing core of superstars—LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
But James already has opted out of the remaining two years of his Heat contract and the team is aggressively looking to upgrade its point-guard position to persuade James to return. Miami traded up to acquire University of Connecticut point guard Shabazz Napier in Thursday night's NBA draft, but apparently aren't stopping there to show James he will not have to carry the same ball-handling and playmaking duties as he did during the team's failed attempt to snare a third consecutive championship this past season.
Regardless of how the discussions go with James, Wade and Bosh, however, "Lowry will be a member of the Heat" next season, the source said. The Heat's grand plan is to transform its Big Three into a Big Four that would include Knicks free agent Carmelo Anthony, multiple league sources have said. The addition of Lowry, though, could mean only part of the current Big Three comprises the new quartet.
Lowry, a nine-year veteran, put up career highs in points (17.9 per game), assists (7.4), rebounds (4.7) and starts (79) to help Toronto make the playoffs for the first time since 2008 with a franchise-record 48 wins. The exact terms of his deal are being worked out, but its value will be $9-$10 million a year for at least three years. He made roughly $6.2 million this past season.
Ongoing concerns within the Raptors organization that Lowry's notable improvement was inspired by his pending free agency and mutual interest between Lowry and the Heat prompted the three parties—Toronto, Miami and Lowry—to work toward a mutually beneficial agreement.
"I'm happy with making the playoffs and doing that, but the end game for all players should be a championship and that's what I want to play for," Lowry told Basketball Insiders this week. "I want to play for a championship."
Coming to terms on a deal as early as possible allows both teams to know exactly where they stand and act quickly when free agency begins.
Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri knows all too well the perils of going into the summer uncertain about a superstar with an expiring contract. He served as an assistant GM when Chris Bosh bolted Toronto to join James and Wade in Miami in 2010. Shortly thereafter he was hired away by the Denver Nuggets as their VP of basketball operations and presided over dealing presumptive free agent Carmelo Anthony to the New York Knicks less than a year later.
Bosh now is expected to follow James into free agency by opting out of the remaining two years of his Heat contract, the source said, and the Raptors intend to meet with him to gauge his interest in returning to Toronto.
The attraction for Bosh to Toronto would be a more significant role and a longer-term deal with the Raptors. Were he to stay in Miami and the pursuit of Anthony prove successful, Bosh would be looking at a significant pay cut and remaining the third option, if not possibly sliding to the fourth, offensively. Bosh has repeatedly stated that he'd like to stay in Miami, but rival GMs and executives have indicated that if the Heat's current Big Three were broken up, they have believed that Bosh would be the one to leave.
Here's an update for my Canadian peeps about Bruno Caboclo.
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MEET BRUNO CABOCLO, TORONTO'S BAFFLING FIRST-ROUND PICK
http://dimemag.com/2014/06/meet-bruno-caboclo-surprise-pick-first-round/ (http://dimemag.com/2014/06/meet-bruno-caboclo-surprise-pick-first-round/)
QuoteThe Toronto Raptors targeted Syracuse guard Tyler Ennis in the first round last night. When he went to the Phoenix Suns at No. 18, general manager Masai Ujiri went with the second prospect on his draft board, a player no one had heard of coming into the draft.
When the Raptors selected Bruno Caboclo from Brazil, there was an audible silence in the draft room, on the ESPN panel, and from basketball fans everywhere. Somehow, in an age where mock drafts are churned out on an hourly basis, none of us had Caboclo on the board or had much information about him at all.
Here's the skinny on the Raptors pick: he's 6-foot-9, and at 18 years old, is the youngest player taken in this year's draft. Among prospects born in 1995, he was ranked 18th by Draft Express. Actual basketball footage of Caboclo is scarce, here's one that we found which doesn't tell us very much except he has a lot of athletic potential:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVk4t-H0XaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVk4t-H0XaA)
Ujiri and head coach Dwane Casey did talk to the media afterwards. Casey tells Eric Koreen of The National Post, he was impressed by what he saw from Caboclo during a pre-draft workout:
The Raptors first noticed him at Basketball Without Borders in 2013, and two Raptors scouts watched Caboclo play at a tournament in Brazil in December. They told Ujiri to check him out, and he flew to Brazil three times to watch him play.
Raptors coach Dwane Casey said he recently saw Caboclo working out in Houston. Casey conceded that only "three or four" teams knew of Caboclo, but they were worried that he would not make it to the 37th pick, which the Raptors eventually used on Connecticut forward DeAndre Daniels.
"Bruno is an athletic phenomenon," Casey said. "At 20, you're not going to get a perfect player, but this young man has a chance to hit it big. He's raw. But he's going to be a guy that's going to develop in our program, grow and do a lot of things for us. Defensively, he's long. He covers a lot of ground down in a stance. He blocks shot with his length."
And then there's this:
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Some info from a North American source: Utah and Phoenix were hot after Caboclo, would have taken him if on the board with next picks
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Same North American source: Raptors promised Caboclo many months ago. That's why he didn't do workouts.
The Raptors weren't the only team who had an eye on Caboclo. It should be noted Ujiri was enamored with Giannis Antetokounmpo's raw athleticism in last year's draft and tried to trade up to select him. Caboclo's appeal is similar.
According to the Raptors, Caboclo will play in the summer league and join the team for training camp. We'll get a first-hand look at the most surprising first round pick from last night very soon.
Oh, and there's this front page of a Toronto newspaper today:
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NBA Cap Space Meter
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11145515/teams-most-salary-cap-space (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11145515/teams-most-salary-cap-space)
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I'd take wins over cap space.
Also I'm not sure why but none of the Suns draft picks really overly impressed me. I felt the same way last year though so take from that what you will.
TJ Warren is a good pick in my opinion. Great scorer.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 28, 2014, 12:32:22 AM
TJ Warren is a good pick in my opinion. Great scorer.
I like him and I think Bogdanovic is going to become a big time player in the league.
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Knicks targeting Melo-Gasol combo
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11148045/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-chances-eye-pau-gasol (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11148045/new-york-knicks-carmelo-anthony-chances-eye-pau-gasol)
QuoteThe New York Knicks are increasingly optimistic about their chances of re-signing star Carmelo Anthony even as he readies himself to talk to other teams next week, according to sources close to the situation.
Sources told ESPN.com that Knicks officials, while not willing to trumpet it publicly with free agency fast approaching, are quietly confident about their odds of retaining Anthony thanks in part to the idea that new team president Phil Jackson and the high-scoring forward have "connected" to some degree.
Furthermore, one source close to the process told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne that Jackson is planning to make a determined attempt to try to recruit his former Los Angeles Lakers center Pau Gasol to replace the freshly traded Tyson Chandler alongside Anthony on the Knicks' front line, despite the fact New York is limited to offering Gasol less than $4 million for next season.
Time will tell if the Knicks' internal confidence in retaining Anthony proves justified, given that he opted out of the final year of his contract at $23.3 million -- with Jackson urging him to opt in -- and will soon be courted face-to-face by a handful of top teams in big cities.
The 30-year-old officially becomes an unrestricted free agent on Tuesday at 12:01 a.m. and, as ESPN.com reported earlier this week, is planning to go on visits or hold meetings with the Chicago Bulls, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks and Lakers all before the Fourth of July. It also must be noted as July 1 draws near that the Bulls and Rockets have likewise been radiating no shortage of positivity about their chances of stealing Anthony away from the Knicks.
The Miami Heat are likewise expected to have Anthony's ear if they choose to formally jump into the race, thanks to the close relationship between LeBron James and the Knicks' star, sources say. But Heat president Pat Riley -- after confirming a recent ESPN.com report that Miami has Anthony on its radar despite the challenges it faces just to get James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh all re-signed -- has acknowledged that growing the Heat's Big Three into a Big Four is a "pipe dream."
Sources told ESPN.com this week that the Knicks swung their trade with the Mavericks to send out Chandler and the out-of-favor Raymond Felton to bring back a clutch of veterans in return -- headlined by point guard Jose Calderón -- in their belief that Anthony would relish the prospect of playing with the Spaniard. Calderon has been a perimeter threat and a beloved teammate everywhere he's played.
Jackson, though, was guarded Thursday in his public comments about the Knicks' chances of retaining Anthony, with New York hamstrung in what it can to do to upgrade the roster around him until it has significant salary-cap space in the summer of 2015.
"It's a big question because there are so many things that can happen out there," Jackson said. "We really don't know. With LeBron getting in this free agency ... we don't know what all that means. But we have every confidence that Carmelo is good for what his word is, that he wants to be in New York, he likes playing in New York, he wants to compete, he wants to be part of a playoff team that is competitive toward a championship."
Sources nonetheless insist that the Knicks feel far better about their chances than Jackson is letting on. No team can match the five years and $129 million that New York can provide if it wishes to offer a maximum contract to Anthony, and while Anthony is undoubtedly intrigued by the chance to team with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah and coach Tom Thibodeau in Chicago, he also still loves the Madison Square Garden stage dearly.
Anthony also said in an interview in early June that he would be hesitant to uproot his family -- 7-year-old son Kiyan in particular -- from New York to another city.
"The average person sees the opportunity to say, 'Melo should go here; Melo should go there; he should do this; I think he should do that,'" Anthony said in an interview with Vice Sports. "They don't take in consideration the family aspect of it. Where are you going to be living at? Do you want your kids to grow up in that place or that city? Do I want to stay the rest of my career in that situation and city? All that stuff comes into play."
A source told ESPN New York that Anthony has expressed similar concerns to close friends in recent days.
Amid speculation that the Knicks are reluctant to offer a max deal to Anthony, Jackson said: "We haven't come to that. But the perception is we want Carmelo to be as interested in winning. When saying he's competitive and wants to be on a competitive team to also being able to demonstrate that if push comes to shove in a situation where he may have to take a little bit less and we're more competitive to bring in another player to help us bring this concept along."
A source told ESPN New York recently that Anthony viewed Jackson's message as "piggybacking" off what the All Star forward himself suggested in February about taking a pay cut and doesn't necessarily see it as Jackson placing a demand on him.
Anthony can receive a maximum of $95.9 million over four seasons if he decides to leave. Jackson has refused to address whether he will consider doing a sign-and-trade if Anthony opts to leave, but he did insist that the Knicks improved their chemistry Wednesday by shedding Chandler and Felton in the Dallas deal and contends that the trade sends "a message to all of our players that we are on the move and we are making changes."
As ESPN.com reported earlier this week, sources say Chicago has been plotting its free-agent pursuit of Anthony all the way back to the January trade of Luol Deng, while Houston on Wednesday night struck a deal to trade center Omer Asik to New Orleans in the first major step toward clearing enough salary-cap space to pursue Anthony or James. The Rockets have been telling teams for weeks that they have a subsequent trade lined up to move out guard Jeremy Lin if a marquee free agent verbally commits to Houston.
Chandler, for his part, thinks his return to the Mavericks will enhance Dallas' pitch to Anthony greatly.
"[Anthony] wants to win and he wants to be in a system and he wants to be in a culture," Chandler said this week. "I think that's going to go into a big part of his decision-making.
"I'm going to do whatever I can to help the team and the organization. At the end of the day, free agency is kind of an individual thing ... But I'll tell you one thing: Dallas isn't a bad place to be; it's a great opportunity and clearly we've done it in the past. It's not a hard place to sell. I'm going to do whatever it takes."
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Report: Udonis Haslem opts out
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QuoteVeteran power forward Udonis Haslem has opted out of his deal with the Miami Heat and will become an unrestricted free agent, according to a report.
Bleacher Report reported Saturday that Haslem did not exercise his $4.62 million player option and now is free to sign with any team -- including re-signing a team-friendly deal with the Heat to create extra space under the salary cap -- starting Tuesday.
LeBron James has already opted out of his deal with the Heat, and teammates Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade -- who have the same representation as Haslem -- have until midnight on Monday to make the same decision.
James, Bosh and Wade met Wednesday over a meal to discuss their futures, sources told ESPN.com.
If all re-sign with the Heat, team president Pat Riley would have more financial flexibility with which to work to lure other free agents. The Heat have been to the Finals the past four seasons, winning two titles.
Haslem has spent 11 NBA seasons with the Heat, but averaged 3.8 points and 3.8 rebounds over 14.2 minutes per game this season -- all career lows.
Dwayne Wade opts out of contract, becomes free agent
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QuoteIn a mild surprise, the Heat's star wing will leave two years and $41 million on the table to become a free agent.
Dwyane Wade has exercised the early termination clause in his contract, becoming a free agent with the likes of LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony, according to Tim Reynolds of the Associated Press.
Wade was slated to make $41 million over the next two years, but elected to become a free agent anyway even though his game is in clear decline. The hope is that he can sign a long-term contract, presumably at a lower annual figure.
Wade only played in 54 regular-season games last season, battling through various injuries and getting rest throughout the campaign. The former Marquette star averaged 19 points per game, the lowest number since Wade's rookie season in 2003-04 when he scored 16.2 points per night. Wade's rebounding was also down to to 4.5, the lowest since 2007-08.
In the NBA Finals, Wade suffered through a nightmare of a series. Wade only averaged 15 points per game and shot just 7 of 25 over the last two games, both which the Heat were blown out of.
By opting to leave, Wade opens up a huge chunk of Miami's salary cap. By leaving a salary of $20.1 million on the table for 2014-15 and an option of $21.6 million for 2015-16, the Heat have ample room to bring back James and Wade, perhaps at a much lower cap figure.
By opening up money, general manager Pat Riley can add better depth and role players after being demolished by the San Antonio Spurs. Should Chris Bosh also opt out and forfeit his $20.6 million number, Miami suddenly has the most cap space in the NBA.
Wade will turn 33 years old in January and is likely looking for his last substantial contract.
Bosh has joined in on the fun.
Wade, Bosh choose free agency
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11149842/dwyane-wade-tells-miami-heat-test-free-agency (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11149842/dwyane-wade-tells-miami-heat-test-free-agency)
QuoteDwyane Wade and Chris Bosh are opting out of their contracts to join LeBron James in free agency, their agent Henry Thomas tells ESPN.
The Big 3 also will be joined as free agents by forward Udonis Haslem, who is represented by Thomas as well.
The moves will provide the Heat with a record $55 million in cap space.
Wade, Bosh, James and Haslem are free to negotiate with any teams starting at 12:01 a.m. ET on Tuesday.
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Report: LeBron James Seeks Max Contract, Wants Roster Improvements
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QuoteUpdates from Saturday, June 28
ESPN's Brian Windhorst and Associated Press reporter Tim Reynolds have the latest on Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade's situation:
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Break out your "take my talents" jokes from 2010. LeBron James has exercised his early termination option for the 2014-15 NBA season and will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.
ESPN's Chris Broussard reports Rich Paul, LeBron James' agent, has informed the Heat of his client's decision:
Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski provides details on the decision:
While Bosh, Wade and Haslem could ultimately take less money with the early termination outs in their deals, James, the NBA's four-time MVP, is seeking a full maximum contract extension – or something close to it – to stay with Miami, sources told Yahoo Sports.
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James' priority remains to find a way to make a future work with Miami, but a failure by the organization toward improving the Heat's roster to his satisfaction could send him aggressively into free agency, sources said.
Following the news, Pat Riley issued a statement on James via the Heat website:
"I was informed this morning of his intentions. We fully expected LeBron to opt-out and exercise his free agent rights, so this does not come as a surprise. As I said at the press conference last week, players have a right to free agency and when they have these opportunities, the right to explore their options. The last four seasons have been historic and LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Erik Spoelstra have led the Miami HEAT to one of the most unprecedented runs in the history of the NBA. We look forward to sitting down with LeBron and his representatives and talking about our future together. At the moment, we are preparing for the opportunities in the Draft and Free Agency as we continue with our goal of winning NBA Championships."
Brian Windhorst of ESPN provides details on teams looking to schedule meetings with James:
Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated notes that the decision to opt out was a tactical one:
The Miami Heat forward was due $20.59 million for next season, which could have been his fifth with the club. James' six-year, $109.83 million contract carried early termination options for both the 2014-15 and 2015-16 seasons.
Speculation about James' potential departure has run rampant for much of the season. Almost half the league will have significant cap space this summer, most notably the Los Angeles Lakers. James will lead a free-agent class that also includes friend Carmelo Anthony, though it's far more surprising to see the four-time NBA MVP's name on the open market.
"At this point, I can't," James told NBATV in February, when asked if he could see himself leaving the Heat. "At this point, I can't. We don't know what can happen from now to July, so what I've been able to do this whole season to this point is just worry about what's at hand, and that's winning another championship."
While understandably worrisome, James opting out far from ends his Heat career. Under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, Miami can offer him a five-year maximum deal worth roughly $127.7 million. Other teams are limited to a four-year pact maxing out at $94.8 million. That $33 million can make all the difference, even for someone of James' financial means.
As Bleacher Report's Ethan Skolnick points out, opting out merely allows James to assess his options.
Dwyane Wade's prime has either already been passed, or close to it. Chris Bosh has disappeared in three consecutive postseasons against the Indiana Pacers, and he turned 30 in March. Both have the same ETO as James.
Ray Allen turns 39 in July and is hitting free agency, Shane Battier is retiring, and Mario Chalmers can walk this summer. Udonis Haslem and Chris Andersen each have player options, though it'd be a surprise to see either opt out.
There are a ton of moving components here, each of which will have to be solved by Pat Riley.
The Heat, despite their aging roster and noticeable foibles, have won two NBA championships and gone to four straight Finals over the past four seasons. It would have been an historical anomaly to see James walk away at the pinnacle of an ongoing dynasty. But Riley needs to provide James with a cogent plan on how to rebuild the talent surrounding the Big Three. Miami is well over the projected salary cap if you include cap holds, and it's nearing the dreaded repeater tax bracket.
Given the Heat amnestied Finals hero Mike Miller to reduce their tax last summer, this is no longer the no-brainer situation James walked into.
There is also an underlying financial component.
James is risking his long-term earning power and maximizing it. His five-year max, had he opted into the 2014-15 season, would have allowed his next contract to begin at 107.5 percent of that year's salary. He'd be 35 by the end of his next five-year contract, an age at which not many players (Kobe Bryant exceptions aside) are handed massive paydays. Analytically speaking (per wagesofwins.com), ages 34 and 35 feature among the biggest drops in expected performance.
Should James leave now, his four-year deal would end at age 33. He might even be able to force a third-year player option, which maximizes his potential of procuring max-level money into his late 30s. Doing so also means leaving $30 million guaranteed on the table.
There is a loyalty factor to consider as well. The biggest draw to Miami beyond winning has been the familial atmosphere Riley has cultivated. As Dan Le Batard of the Miami Herald wrote in April, James may have played close to home when in Cleveland, but he never felt at "home" until he signed with the Heat. Beginning with the Big Three and on down the line through Riley and owner Micky Arison, these guys like each other.
But, as we saw in "The Decision" era, he is also a pragmatist. James spurned his hometown and engulfed his public reputation in flames to win in Miami. He's older and more comfortable with his all-time standing now, yet James is understandingly unwilling to play out the remainder of his prime in mediocrity. A source told Tim Reynolds of The Associated Press that the James situation remains fluid:
There were already ever-so-slight signs of slippage. Though he averaged his customary 27.1 points, 6.9 rebounds and 6.4 assists, James was downright bad defensively at times last season. His effort waxed and waned, his rotations were sloppy, and there were countless moments when he'd eschew transition defense entirely to complain about a missed call.
Those are signs of the incredible wear James has put on his body these last few seasons. No player on the planet has played more minutes since the 2010-11 season, and only Kevin Durant is remotely close. With Wade breaking down, James might be reading the tea leaves and looking to repeat history—a situation where he can be The Man without having to carry the entire load.
Or he could just be looking for a fat new contract. Either way, Riley and Co. officially have their work cut out for them.
All that was for the Heat's big three to make more money available for the Heat to bring in good players around them.
And let's not forget Lebron's max contract.
Lebron will make less money short term but more money overall long term.
Exactly. However they'll have to adjusts all of the relevant contracts including the ones coming in to accommodate that as well.
The Heat have cleared so much cap space they can probably do some contract magic to sign whoever they want. Suddenly the Heat becomes the most attractive free agent destination.
Got some very surprising breaking coaching news. May or may not be accurate but I thought I'd share it anyway.
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Denied promotion, Jason Kidd gets OK to talk with Bucks
http://nypost.com/2014/06/28/denied-promotion-jason-kidd-gets-ok-to-talk-with-bucks/ (http://nypost.com/2014/06/28/denied-promotion-jason-kidd-gets-ok-to-talk-with-bucks/)
QuoteApparently Jason Kidd isn't satisfied with just coaching, but he'll have to be if he stays with the Nets.
According to a league source, Kidd recently approached ownership with a series of demands, including the role of overseeing the Nets' basketball operations department in addition to his head coaching responsibilities. The source said Kidd didn't want general manager Billy King to be dismissed, but wanted to be given a title and placed above him in the organizational hierarchy.
Ownership declined to grant Kidd that kind of power, which is rare for any coach in the league to have. The source said ownership felt Kidd wasn't ready for that kind of responsibility after having only one year of coaching experience — the team finished his first season on the bench with a 44-38 record, good for sixth in the Eastern Conference — and allowed Kidd to seek other opportunities.
The franchise then was approached by the Bucks for permission to speak with Kidd about the prospect of hiring him, and the Nets granted permission.
Bucks coach Larry Drew just completed his first season in Milwaukee after the team hired him last summer following his contract expiring with Atlanta.
Kidd did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The Bucks, long one of the league's moribund franchises, has been injected with new life after the sale of the team from its longtime owner, Sen. Herb Kohl, for $550 million to New York investment firm executives Wes Edens and Marc Lasry, who is a good friend of Kidd, in mid-May.
Milwaukee selected Duke star Jabari Parker with the second overall pick in Thursday's draft at, ironically, Barclays Center in Brooklyn, pairing him with rookie Giannis Antetokounmpo to give them two exciting young forwards to build around.
Holding the dual roles of both coaching a team and overseeing basketball operations is rare in the NBA, with only San Antonio's Gregg Popovich, Detroit's Stan Van Gundy, Minnesota's Flip Saunders and the Clippers' Doc Rivers currently holding both roles. Van Gundy and Saunders assumed their roles this offseason.
The Nets hired Kidd last June less than a month after he retired from a stellar 19-year Hall of Fame career in which he spent six-plus seasons with the franchise, leading them to a pair of Finals appearances and establishing himself as the best player in the franchise's NBA history.
Kidd endured a rocky start, including a 10-21 record through the opening two months of the season and the "re-assignment" to filing daily reports of assistant coach Lawrence Frank — who had signed a six-year contract worth roughly $1 million on average last summer after being pursued by his former point guard with the Nets. Kidd turned things around after the start of 2014, leading Brooklyn to a 34-17 record from Jan. 1 through the end of the regular season.
The decision to swap out Shaun Livingston for Alan Anderson in Games 6 and 7 was a deciding factor in the Nets' comeback from a 3-2 deficit to advance to the Eastern Conference semifinals, where they eventually lost to the Heat in five games.
Report: Suns looking to emerge as destination for LeBron, Carmelo
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601093/report-suns-looking-to-emerge-as-destination-for-lebron-carmelo (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601093/report-suns-looking-to-emerge-as-destination-for-lebron-carmelo)
QuoteLeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are the two big prizes of the 2014 summer of free agency. There are some teams looking to pry James away from the Miami Heat, promising a better future and the ability to separate himself from such a convincing NBA Finals loss from this past postseason. There are some teams looking to convince Anthony he can leave the ruins of a Knicks franchise for a real chance to win a championship during the rest of his prime. And there are a couple teams bold enough to try to sign both players this summer.
Add the Phoenix Suns to that list of bold teams. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, the Suns are looking to add themselves to the short list of destinations capable and willing to go get both All-Star forwards to team up the long-time friends. The Suns have plenty of assets and flexibility to get the job done if Anthony and James are interest in playing for Phoenix.
Armed with an offer that no else in the NBA can make – a chance to partner with Carmelo Anthony on an instant championship contender – the Phoenix Suns are planning an aggressive pursuit of LeBron James on Tuesday, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Suns officials understand the bid will be something of a long shot, but are determined to get a meeting with James to convince him how the possibilities of two full max contracts, a roster stocked with talented, young players and the chance to pick the superstar free-agent partner of his choice ought to make Phoenix one of his most appealing suitors.
Phoenix is determined to emerge as a legitimate destination for James and Anthony, who have privately shared an affinity for playing with each other in the NBA. Salary-cap structures make it prohibitive for teams elsewhere to fit these two stars together without completely gutting a roster, but Phoenix's general manager Ryan McDonough has constructed a far different reality to sell them in potential meetings next week, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
If the salary cap truly ends up around $62.3 million as has been projected by experts, the Suns would have roughly $19.5 million in cap space to play assuming they re-sign Eric Bledsoe to a max deal, renounce the rights to their remaining free agents, and sign T.J. Warren and Tyler Ennis to their rookie deals while Bogdan Bogdanovic stays in Europe to develop. That's clearly not enough to grab James and Anthony with max deals of their own. That number jumps to around $34 million in cap space if they don't bring back Bledsoe, whom LeBron James is a fan.
Gerald Green, Alex Len, the Morris twins, and Archie Goodwin could all be moved in trades that don't bring back contracts in an effort to move that salary cap room to $33.7 million while re-signing Bledsoe to a max contract this summer. The Suns have the flexibility to make it all work if James and Anthony are willing to take a little less to play alongside each other, but convincing James is the hardest part of this entire ordeal.
Cuban: Mavs will 'swing for fences'
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/11150393/dallas-mavericks-plan-aggressive-free-agency (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/11150393/dallas-mavericks-plan-aggressive-free-agency)
QuoteDALLAS -- The Mavericks plan on aggressively pursuing superstars in free agency but will not make maximum-contract offers, owner Mark Cuban said.
The Mavs have approximately $26 million in salary-cap space after acquiring center Tyson Chandler and point guard Raymond Felton in Wednesday's six-player trade with the New York Knicks. Dirk Nowitzki, the longtime face of the franchise, has repeatedly declared his intention to re-sign with Dallas on a hometown-discount deal that would still pay him well enough to feel "respected."
That is not expected to leave the Mavs enough cap space to make a max offer to LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony, the two premier players available in free agency. Anthony is eligible for a contract with a starting salary of $22.46 million. James can be paid up to $20.02 million in the first season of his new deal.
"We're going to swing for the fences," Cuban said Saturday on 103.3 FM's "ESPN Dallas GameDay," his first interview since the Chandler trade. "I think some of these guys are opting out just to create leverage, and they'll go back. Then there's some that really want to go to different teams. We'll try to put ourselves in position to get them."
It isn't known yet whether the Mavs will get the opportunity of a face-to-face meeting with James. Anthony, meanwhile, intends to visit the Mavs, Houston Rockets, Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers once free agency begins July 1, sources have told ESPN.
The Rockets have agreed to trade backup center Omer Asik to the New Orleans Pelicans for a 2015 first-round pick to create cap space. Houston is expected to attempt to make a similar salary-dump deal to part ways with reserve point guard Jeremy Lin. Even after those moves, the Rockets wouldn't have enough room to make Anthony a full-max offer.
The Bulls would be in a similar situation even after using the amnesty clause to remove power forward Carlos Boozer's $16.8 million salary from their cap ledger.
The size of the Mavs' offer to Anthony or James could depend on the salary negotiated with Nowitzki, but Dallas doesn't plan on being in position to agree to a max deal for either superstar.
"You can come up with a different range in what Dirk is going to take and realize that for a player who has been in the league 10-plus years, he's not going to get a max contract here," said Cuban, who did not mention specific players due to NBA rules preventing teams from discussing free agents before July 1. "So coming in, he recognizes he's playing for less than max. That means there's some reason that he wants to talk to us. And if you look at the other teams, they're in similar situations as well.
"We've got to understand that most likely he's interested in winning championships and most likely he's seen over the course of time that coaching is a huge part of winning a championship."
The Mavs, who believe the trade for Chandler makes them significantly more attractive to free agents after they couldn't close deals with Deron Williams or Dwight Howard the past two summers, intend to make the franchise's championship culture and commitment to winning major parts of their recruiting pitches.
Cuban considers coach Rick Carlisle to be one of the Mavs' most important assets in their attempt to sign a star in free agency. The eighth-seeded Mavs pushing the eventual champion San Antonio Spurs to seven games in the first round of this season's playoffs provides a fresh example of the impact Carlisle can make, something Cuban said several agents have mentioned to him.
"Everybody thought we were going to get crushed," Cuban said. "That allows us not to say, 'Hey, we played them the best,' but allows us to say, 'Look, when it comes to the playoffs in particular, Rick has got the skill set and we've got veteran guys who know how to implement offensive and defensive strategies that really give us a unique opportunity.' That's something that very few teams can say.
"If you look at other teams with cap room and then you just look at their coach and if they've made the playoffs, you look at how their playoff runs went, you're not looking at them and saying, 'Wow, that team really ... .' I don't want to throw anybody under the bus, but their coaches are not as good as Rick Carlisle."
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Bucks offer 2nd rounder for Kidd
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11153896/jason-kidd-join-milwaykee-bucks-brooklyn-nets-take-second-round-pick-compensation (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11153896/jason-kidd-join-milwaykee-bucks-brooklyn-nets-take-second-round-pick-compensation)
QuoteJason Kidd will be the next head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks if the Brooklyn Nets agree to the Bucks' terms of a 2015 second-round draft pick in exchange for Kidd, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN Sunday.
The source said the Bucks offered a second-round pick, but the Nets wanted a 2015 first-round pick in exchange, a negotiating chip the Bucks originally dismissed.
"If the Nets agree then there will be a deal, if they don't then (the Bucks) are comfortable moving on and there will be nothing further to talk about," said the source. "The only thing (the Bucks) would give them is a second-round pick. They want a first. In the next 24 hours, there will either be a deal or there won't be a deal."
The source said the Bucks only talked to Kidd about being the coach, not any kind of administrative position running basketball operations. The source said the negotiation was supposed to be between the owners, not involving any basketball personnel, before the story leaked out by the New York Post. But the source said the negotiations are now being handled by Bucks general manager John Hammond and the Nets' Billy King.
The source said Hammond and high-ranking Bucks officials David Moray and Dave Babcock are all safe and that there jobs are not in jeopardy if Kidd is hired as coach. The source said current Bucks coach Larry Drew has not talked to ownership during this process.
"If Jason accepts then they will work it out (with Drew)," said the source. 'If the deal doesn't happen, then there will be an issue with Larry."
The source said Bucks co-owners Marc Lasry and Wes Edens met with Kidd Friday in New York City after asking for and receiving permission to talk to Kidd a few days before last Thursday's NBA draft.
Lasry was familiar with Kidd and had a previous relationship but Edens did not. The source said Kidd told the owners that he would like to have the job. The source said Kidd was intrigued by coaching a young, rebuilding team that just added the No. 2 pick in the draft in Duke's Jabari Parker and was looking for the challenge.
The source said the ownership wanted Kidd because he was able to handle a number of egos on the Nets in his first head coaching stint and guide them into the playoffs.
The ownership view of Kidd is that he was a great player, a good young coach and somebody who could be a good disciplinarian. The ownership saw someone who handled a lot of pressure in Brooklyn, held the team together and was one of the best teams in the East.
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Chris Bosh makes opt-out official, Pat Riley issues statement
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/29/chris-bosh-makes-opt-out-official-pat-riley-issues-statement/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/29/chris-bosh-makes-opt-out-official-pat-riley-issues-statement/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteLeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh have now all officially opted out of the final two years of their respective deals, and are unrestricted free agents who can sign wherever they choose for next season.
They'll all be signing in Miami, of course, and the only question is, at what price.
The trio staggered their opt-outs for reasons known only to the individuals, but the reasoning was the same — to sign long-term deals for more guaranteed dollars in total, while taking less in the short-term to provide the team with immediate financial flexibility to upgrade the roster.
Bosh was the final piece of this puzzle, and once he notified the Heat of his intentions on Sunday, Pat Riley issued the following statement:
"Today we were notified of Chris' intentions to opt-out of his contract. Chris is one of the most versatile and dynamic big men in this league, and he has been an instrumental key to our championship success over the last four seasons. We look forward to meeting with Chris and his agent in the coming days to discuss keeping him in Miami for many years to come."
That's been the plan all along, and it's one that can formally be set in motion now that all three stars have opted out of their contracts.
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Hawks trade Lou Williams, Lucas Nogueira for John Salmons in a move to free up cap space
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/29/hawks-trade-lou-williams-lucas-nogueira-for-john-salmons-in-a-move-to-free-up-cap-space/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/29/hawks-trade-lou-williams-lucas-nogueira-for-john-salmons-in-a-move-to-free-up-cap-space/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteThe Hawks and Raptors have reportedly agreed to the rare type of trade that appears to be fairly equal on both sides.
Atlanta gets John Salmons, who has a contract for $7 million next season that is only $1 million guaranteed if he is waived by Monday, which was obviously the plan all along.
Toronto gets Lou Williams and the rights to Lucas Nogueira, an intriguing seven-footer who was selected with the 16th overall pick in the 2013 NBA Draft.
It's win-win because the Hawks will increase their cap space to around $15.5 million after waiving Salmons, which would allow them to add top talent through free agency, provided the team can convince anyone to sign there.
On the Raptors side, they get a nice young prospect in Nogueira, although one who hasn't yet seemed all that interested in pursuing an NBA career, preferring to stay overseas instead
Williams has been a backup guard whose production has declined in each of the last three seasons, though he's proven serviceable at the position, and Toronto may have a need there depending on what happens with Kyle Lowry and Greivis Vasquez in free agency this summer.
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Report: Suns to make big offer to Gordon Hayward, Jazz likely to match
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601221/report-suns-to-make-big-offer-to-gordon-hayward-jazz-likely-to-match (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601221/report-suns-to-make-big-offer-to-gordon-hayward-jazz-likely-to-match)
QuoteIf Utah Jazz forward Gordon Hayward was going to become an unrestricted free agent this summer, there would no doubt be a bidding war for his services. He's a fantastic playmaker at 6'8", he's a very good outside shooter, and at just 24 years old, he's already one of the better all around forwards in this league. However, he's a restricted free agent coming off of his rookie contract and that makes it almost impossible to pry him away from the Jazz this summer.
That won't stop the Phoenix Suns from trying though. The Suns are reportedly expected to make a big offer to Hayward, and it may even be a max contract offer to make the Jazz question whether or not they should match it. However, the Jazz are expected to match any offer sheet Hayward might sign with another team, including a potential offer from the Suns.
The Suns aren't shy about trying to pry young players away in free agency with a max offer sheet. They signed Eric Gordon to a max offer sheet back in 2012 after he spent an injury-riddled season with the New Orleans Pelicans following being traded for Chris Paul. Gordon asked New Orleans not to match the offer sheet, but they decided to keep him on their roster anyway by matching the deal and retaining Gordon.
Hayward set career highs in scoring average (16.2), rebounds per game (5.1), assists per game (5.2), and steals per game (1.4) in 2013-14. He struggled with his outside shot (30.4 percent from 3-point range lowering his career accuracy to 36.5 percent) but he was easily the best player on a Jazz team that went 25-57. On draft night, the Jazz selected Dante Exum with the fifth pick and Rodney Hood with the 23rd pick, adding to the young core Hayward will likely be asked to lead for the next few seasons.
Updated NBA free agent cap space chart.
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Bucks get Jason Kidd, fire Larry Drew
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11155852/milwaukee-bucks-brooklyn-nets-agree-deal-jason-kidd (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11155852/milwaukee-bucks-brooklyn-nets-agree-deal-jason-kidd)
QuoteThe Milwaukee Bucks have fired coach Larry Drew after agreeing to send two second-round draft picks to the Brooklyn Nets to secure the coaching rights to Jason Kidd, sources told ESPN.com on Monday.
Brooklyn will receive draft picks in 2015 and 2019 from Milwaukee. The Bucks had been offering one second-round pick, but the Nets wanted a 2015 first-round pick in exchange, a negotiating chip the Bucks dismissed.
A source told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that the Bucks have talked to Kidd only about being the coach, not any kind of administrative position running basketball operations. The source said the negotiation was supposed to be between the owners, not involving any basketball personnel, before the New York Post leaked the story. But the source said the negotiations are now being handled by Bucks general manager John Hammond and Nets GM Billy King.
The source told ESPN.com that the jobs of Hammond and high-ranking Bucks officials David Morway and Dave Babcock are not in jeopardy.
A league source told ESPNNewYork.com that Lionel Hollins has already emerged as "a very serious candidate" to become head coach of the Nets if Kidd goes to Milwaukee.
"In a lot of ways, he makes the most sense," a league source said of Hollins. "He represents stability, and stability is very important right now. He rules with an iron fist and gets a lot out of his players, so he'd be very high on the list right now, and likely the leader."
Ettore Messina, former coach of CSKA Moscow, also is a leading contender for the Nets' opening, a source told ESPN.com.
Sources said Bucks co-owners Wes Edens and Marc Lasry met with Kidd on Friday in New York City after asking for and receiving permission to talk to Kidd a few days before Thursday's NBA draft.
Lasry had a previous relationship with Kidd, but Edens did not. The source said Kidd told the owners that he would like to have the job. He was intrigued by the challenge of coaching a young, rebuilding team that just added the No. 2 pick in the draft in Duke's Jabari Parker, the source said.
The source said the Bucks' ownership wanted Kidd because he handled pressure and a number of egos on the Nets in his first head-coaching stint and guided them into the playoffs.
The ownership's view of Kidd is that he was a great player, a good young coach and somebody who could be a good disciplinarian, the source said.
LeBron James wants max salary
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11156634/lebron-james-miami-heat-wants-maximum-salary (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11156634/lebron-james-miami-heat-wants-maximum-salary)
QuoteLeBron James will have a completely different process and a different priority when he opens his free agency at 12:01 a.m. ET Tuesday than he did in 2010, sources told ESPN.com.
Teams that contact James will be informed that he wants no less than the maximum salary number for next season, sources said. The max number is projected to be $22.2 million. In 2010, James accepted a pay cut when he signed with the Miami Heat, taking less than the maximum salary to help make space for other free agents.
As of now, James is not scheduling any pitch meetings with teams; he will let agent Rich Paul handle the opening stages of talks. In 2010, James scheduled six meetings with teams at his offices in Cleveland over the first three days of July.
James' demand for the length of his next deal is in flux. After the Finals, James said flexibility was important to him, hinting that he may not be looking for a full four- or five-year contract.
This information could shake up the contenders and sends the message that James, who has never been the single highest-paid player on his team in his 11-year career, is not as willing to sacrifice money to improve the roster as he was in the past. That burden may now fall to teammates such as Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
Currently, seven teams have the cap space to offer James a deal starting at $22.2 million next season: the Heat, Dallas Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix Suns, Utah Jazz, Philadelphia 76ers and Orlando Magic.
The Lakers and Suns, known to be serious bidders, have the space to add James and other high-level free agents. The Heat have the most cap space at $55 million but have Wade and Bosh to attend to as well. Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said over the weekend that his team did not plan to make any max contract offers to free agents.
Without cap space, the only other way to get to James' requisite number is to execute a sign-and-trade, which would require the Heat's cooperation, or make additional moves to clear up cap space.
At least three teams currently without the needed cap space that are known to want to chase James are the Cleveland Cavaliers, Houston Rockets and Chicago Bulls. All three would need to execute significant shuffling and perhaps even offload star players to clear $22.2 million.
These details have led to a growing pessimism among teams that James is seriously considering leaving the Heat. ESPN reported Sunday that the Bulls and Rockets have scheduled in-person free-agent meetings this week with Carmelo Anthony as a top offseason target.
Over the weekend, ESPN reported that James, Bosh and Wade discussed financial terms on potential new deals with the Heat at a meeting last week in Miami. It is against NBA rules for teams to negotiate with pending free agents before July 1, but players are free to discuss contract terms among themselves.
If James follows through with his demands for a deal starting at the full max number and the Heat also re-sign Bosh and Wade, then Miami will likely not be left with appreciable salary-cap space even if Wade and Bosh accept pay cuts.
However, there are scenarios where the Heat could re-sign all three players plus veterans Udonis Haslem and Ray Allen and still be able to use the $5.3 million midlevel exception, the $2 million biannual exception and a $2.2 million trade exception to bring in some new role players.
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Report: Cavs flying to New Jersey to offer Kyrie Irving the max
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601777/report-cavs-flying-to-new-jersey-to-offer-kyrie-irving-the-max (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24601777/report-cavs-flying-to-new-jersey-to-offer-kyrie-irving-the-max)
QuoteMembers of the Cleveland Cavaliers front office are flying to New Jersey on Monday in order to meet star point guard Kyrie Irving and offer him a maximum contract extension as soon as the team is allowed to, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard.
It was reported weeks ago that the Cavs would try to get this done as soon as possible in July. Despite the fact a late-May report indicated Cleveland might not be willing to invest heavily in Irving, the only sound decision here was always to lock him up for as long as possible. The Cavs could have legitimate doubts about his defense and his leadership, but he has franchise-player talent and the team needs stability in the worst way. Even if it costs $90 million over five years.
It has been a rocky few seasons for Cleveland, but with Andrew Wiggins and David Blatt on board things are starting to look up. Extending Irving's contract would be another step in the right direction.
He's not worth a max contract.
It's not the coaches or the players why the Bucks sucks its the front office. It starts with the Owners, GM, President, and so on. I am just saying and I have seen this from a personal view.
On a locals note: Jason Kidd is hell of a coach and he can handle some of the problems that the Sucks have.
Quote from: JustinP on June 30, 2014, 05:06:22 PM
He's not worth a max contract.
He's worth it to somebody. NBA GM's always overpay to keep their talent.
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 30, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
He's worth it to somebody. NBA GM's always overpay to keep their talent.
It's NBA and MLB who has grossly overpaid players. Have you ever seen an AFL contract or MSL contract its 1/3 of the NBA and MLB combined.
Quote from: Krazy on June 30, 2014, 05:24:55 PM
It's NBA and MLB who has grossly overpaid players. Have you ever seen an AFL contract or MSL contract its 1/3 of the NBA and MLB combined.
They also don't gross as much revenue ... the Lakers paid out 44 million dollars in revenue sharing ... they STILL made 104 million on the year.
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 30, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
He's worth it to somebody. NBA GM's always overpay to keep their talent.
That's the whole problem with the NBA. Too many overpaid players.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 30, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
That's the whole problem with the NBA. Too many overpaid players.
With a fixed salary cap every team essentially has 1 player they will always max out for especially the smaller market clubs that need to retain talent through the draft since they can't just pluck free agents ... just look at John Wall and the Wizards.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 30, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
That's the whole problem with the NBA. Too many overpaid players.
This creates a gap look at the Lakers to the Hornets or even Heat to the Bucks. Massive gaps because the overpaid players and teams not getting even money. Even the poorest team in the NFL has some fair chance unlike the NBA.
Honestly I think there's too many overpaid players and the guys who are really worth the money, like roleplayers and key contributors off the bench, don't get paid enough. Spurs are the perfect model of an NBA team in my opinion.
Here is my problem with the major sports leagues. The coach is always the sacrificial lamb. You are playing all of these guys a ton of money, but at the end of the day they are the ones that have to perform. Sure, the coach has to have a good game plan and put the right guys on the court, but he can't shoot, throw, tackle, hit, dribble, etc. for the players. They have to do that, that's what you're getting paid for.
Quote from: JustinP on June 30, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
Here is my problem with the major sports leagues. The coach is always the sacrificial lamb. You are playing all of these guys a ton of money, but at the end of the day they are the ones that have to perform. Sure, the coach has to have a good game plan and put the right guys on the court, but he can't shoot, throw, tackle, hit, dribble, etc. for the players. They have to do that, that's what you're getting paid for.
I would even add the front office also. Some teams are good however plagued with a horrid front office.
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 30, 2014, 05:26:59 PM
That's the whole problem with the NBA. Too many overpaid players.
#FBLproblems
Magic waive Jameer Nelson
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11158495/orlando-magic-waive-veteran-guard-jameer-nelson)
QuoteORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orlando Magic's final link to their old regime is now gone.
The Magic waived Jameer Nelson on Monday, parting ways with their longest-tenured player in a move to save valuable salary cap space and turn a page toward the future. Nelson's departure comes just weeks before the team would have owed him $8 million for the final year of a three-year contract.
But by waiving him by July 16, Orlando owes the veteran point guard only $2 million in guaranteed money.
In a statement released by the team, Nelson thanked the Magic management and ownership, adding that he'd miss the fans that embraced him and "made it easy for us to adopt Orlando as our second home."
"I appreciate the opportunity the Orlando Magic has afforded me and my family over the past 10 years," Nelson said. "All good things must come to an end, however, and it's time to move on. I look forward to continuing my career as an NBA player and will never take for granted my time in Orlando."
Nelson was selected by Denver 20th overall in the first round of the 2004 draft, but was acquired by Orlando in exchange for a future first round pick on draft night. Listed at 6 feet, he was undersized on most nights but played in 651 regular season games in Orlando with 556 starts, averaging 12.6 points and 5.4 assists, and posting one All-Star season in 2009.
He also was a stalwart on the Magic teams that made the 2009 Finals and 2010 Eastern Conference finals.
Nelson was the final roster link to both of those teams, with most of the other players now long gone.
He leaves as the franchise's all-time leader in assists with 3,501. He ranks second in games played (651) and field goals attempted (7,033), and third in minutes played (19,038).
In addition to being a fan favorite, he was also a fixture in a locker room that went through an awkward divorce from Dwight Howard -- who at one point suggested replacements for Nelson -- and a painful 62-loss season the following year.
Nelson, 32, could potentially re-sign with the Magic, but he's expected to garner interest in free agency from teams who need a veteran piece.
Orlando general manager Rob Hennigan has been tight-lipped in recent weeks when asked about the team's plans for Nelson, each time praising him for his professionalism and value to the team.
He did so again on Monday.
"Jameer is the ultimate professional," Hennigan said. "We truly thank him for his contributions to the organization, both on the court and in the community, during the last decade. He will always be a member of the Magic family."
But his decision to let go of Nelson, who served a mentor role for Victor Oladipo during his rookie year last season, is clearly a nod to the future.
Orlando made a draft night trade to acquire the rights to 10th overall pick and point guard Elfrid Payton out of Louisiana-Lafayette. He appears to be the franchise's hope at the position now, after Oladipo struggled at times to play the point last season.
Nelson would be a very good pickup for the Heat. They ship Cole and let Napier learn under Nelson for two seasons.
I think he'll be a hot target for teams looking for a veteran guard. I think a lot of teams will show interest.
Quote from: JustinP on June 30, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Nelson would be a very good pickup for the Heat. They ship Cole and let Napier learn under Nelson for two seasons.
Lowry is better who they have targeted
Quote from: PapaPancho on June 30, 2014, 07:26:07 PM
Lowry is better who they have targeted
True, but he will come with a bigger price tag. Nelson gets $2 million from the Magic and then what the Heat can give him. He's not going to want much, I'm sure he's to the point where he wants to win.
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Pistons won't pick up Billups' option
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11159308/chauncey-billups-contract-not-renewed-detroit-pistons (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11159308/chauncey-billups-contract-not-renewed-detroit-pistons)
QuoteAUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- The Detroit Pistons say they won't pick up the team option on Chauncey Billups' contract for the 2014-15 season.
Coach Stan van Gundy says Monday's announcement was a hard one. He says the 37-year-old guard "will always be a valued member of the Detroit Pistons' family."
Owner Tom Gores says Billups has shown "leadership, dedication and excellence both on and off the court" and says he's confident Billups will have "a long and bright future" in the league after his playing days are over.
Boston drafted Billups out of Colorado in 1997. He played for Detroit from 2002-2008 and again in 2013.
Billups also has played for Denver, Orlando, Toronto, Minnesota, New York and the Los Angeles Clippers.
Raptors trade for Lou Williams
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11154257/toronto-raptors-trade-john-salmons-lou-williams-atlanta-hawks (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11154257/toronto-raptors-trade-john-salmons-lou-williams-atlanta-hawks)
QuoteThe Toronto Raptors have agreed with Atlanta to trade guard John Salmons for fellow veteran Lou Williams, according to sources close to the process.
Sources previously told ESPN.com that the teams were in "deep discussions" on a deal to send Salmons to Atlanta for Williams in time for the Hawks to be able to waive Salmons and pay only $1 million to buy him out of next season's $7 million salary.
The Hawks, sources say, will immediately waive Salmons to expand their projected salary-cap space for this summer to $15.5 million, though one source cautioned Sunday that the move is more about flexibility and roster-shaping for the Hawks than any specific free-agent target.
Sources say that the Raptors will also acquire the rights to Brazilian big man Lucas Nogueira from the Hawks. Nogueira played for Estudiantes in Spain after being selected with the 16th overall pick in the 2013 draft.
ESPN.com reported earlier this week that the Raptors engaged in serious discussions on draft day to swap Salmons and his cap-friendly contract for Grizzlies swingman Tayshaun Prince and Memphis' first-round pick (No. 22). But those talks collapsed when two players Toronto was targeting in that draft range -- Tyler Ennis and Gary Harris -- were gone by the time the Raptors made their first selection of the round, drafting Brazilian project Bruno Caboclo at No. 20 overall.
Good move by the Raptors. They had little chance to resign Lowry and got his replacement for cheap + promising Nogueira as well.
Now the Raptors have 2 Brazilians to let the Toronto fans down!
As for the Bucks, don't worry. Kidd will become head coach and the overseer of basketball operations which is what he wanted in Brooklyn, and all will be right for him.
This is a good trade for the Raptors. Nogueira is a defensive playmaker. This guy is a big time shot blocker. Add Williams to this and this is an overall solid trade for Toronto.
Lucas Nogueira's Summer League Block Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWu0q4-Qy2Q#ws)
Highlights Lucas Nogueira (Bebê), ACB - Spain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4rgbkyFZnY#)
Jason Kidd having more pull then coach? Please get the morons out of the office of Milwaukee!
That's why the Nets shipped him off to begin with. He wanted too much power.
The Bucks need someone who doesn't have there heads up their ass!
Well then they clearly have the wrong guy.
The fact that Milwaukee got him after that leaked out shows that they might be willing to give him that power...at least to me.
Quote from: C.J. Gates on June 30, 2014, 10:27:08 PM
The fact that Milwaukee got him after that leaked out shows that they might be willing to give him that power...at least to me.
He's apparently friends with one of the new co-owners.
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Report: Pacers make Even Turner unrestricted free agent
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602084/report-pacers-make-even-turner-unrestricted-free-agent (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602084/report-pacers-make-even-turner-unrestricted-free-agent)
QuoteThe Indiana Pacers may wind up getting nothing at all for former franchise star Danny Granger. The Pacers traded Granger to the 76ers at the deadline for former No.2 overall pick Evan Turner. Granger was subsequently waived by the Sixers and signed by the Clippers. He'll be a free agent starting Tuesday.
As will Evan Turner. USA Today reports that the Pacers declined to offer Turner the qualifying offer, meaning Turner will be an unrestricted free agent.
The Indiana Pacers, who acquired Turner from the Philadelphia 76ers in a trade during last season, will not extend a qualifying offer of $8.7 million on the final year of his rookie deal, two people familiar with Indiana's decision told USA TODAY Sports.
The people requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly until the Pacers made the news official.
Turner has the ability to score, and he is also a strong rebounding guard and capable passer. In the right situation, he can be an asset, and there will be interest in him. Expect teams to start making offers when the top-tier free agents make their choices.
This gives Turner a chance at a fresh start after an uneven time in Philadelphia and a forgetful three-month stint with the Pacers.
via Pacers let Evan Turner become unrestricted free agent.
Turner averaged 7.1 points, 3.2 rebounds, and 2.4 assists last season with the Pacers in 27 games. He has struggled in every phase of the game, never finding a consistent shot or developing as a defender. His limited athleticism complicates this further. The Pacers were outscored by seven points per 100 possessions last year with Turner on the court.
Turner honestly presents an interesting test case for the new CBA and how the market works now. Turner is still young enough to convince a team to take a chance on him, and has a skillset that features some promise. But his lack of upside and production should prevent any major deal for him. How the market responds to him will show how teams have learned from past mistakes. The answer to that usually is "not at all." We'll see who "the Villain" catches on with.
The Sucks haven't been good since the 70's. Can we get a break?
Maybe you guys can try and get Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Oscar Robertson to come back.
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Reports: Raptors offering Kyle Lowry $14.5 million per year
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602003/reports-kyle-lowry-back-to-raptors-as-good-as-done (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602003/reports-kyle-lowry-back-to-raptors-as-good-as-done)
QuoteUpdate 10:33 p.m.: Yahoo Sports reports that the Raptors are offering a stunning $14.5 million per year deal to Lowry to keep him in Canada.
That's, um, kind of a lot. ESPN and the Toronto Star expect a smaller or different deal.
If the Raptors really do throw the bank at Lowry, they'll keep their star but lock up their cap space significantly, keeping them from being able to improve significantly in the future without trading younger All-Star DeMar Derozan. Are the Raps really one piece away? That appears to be the gamble they're set to make.
Sportsnet.ca and ESPN are reporting that while terms are not yet known, the Raptors are thought to be all but have formally locked up a deal with free-agent-to-be Kyle Lowry, before he hits the market Monday night.
"I think that deal is as good as done," Michael Grange of Sportsnet.ca says. "I'll be shocked if he doesn't remain with the Raptors."
Lowry averaged 17.9 points, 4.7 rebounds and 7.4 assists last season in a career year with Toronto.
It's a bit surprising that GM Masai Ujiri, with a chance to truly rebuild the team after taking over last year would want to commit to $12 million per year for Lowry, who was an All-Star worthy point guard but unlikely to be the best player on a championship team. But Lowry does ensure the Raptors will be good for the duration of Lowry's stay.
In Denver, Ujrii built a team that was good, with the potential to get better. That appears to be his plan in Toronto as well. The Raptors will be slightly cap strapped, even after trading John Salmons to Atlanta. They also will likely have trouble re-signing Greivis Vasquez and Patrick Patterson. But the core of Lowry, DeMar DeRozan, Jonas Valanciunas, and Terrence Ross will at least give them a playoff team with upside to improve.
The Raptors aren't rebuilding. They're retooling, with their eye on big improvements down the line, and it looks at this point like the center of that plan is Kyle Lowry.
2014 NBA Free Agents List
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/transactions/free-agents (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/transactions/free-agents)
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SORTABLE 2014 NBA FREE AGENT TRACKER
RANK PLAYER POS AGE EXP TYPE LAST TEAM NEW TEAM STATUS
1 James, LeBron SF 29 11 UFA Heat -- --
2 Bosh, Chris PF 30 11 UFA Heat -- --
3 Nowitzki, Dirk PF 36 16 UFA Mavericks -- --
4 Anthony, Carmelo SF 30 11 UFA Knicks -- --
5 Lowry, Kyle PG 28 8 UFA Raptors -- --
6 Bledsoe, Eric PG 24 4 RFA Suns -- --
7 Monroe, Greg PF 24 4 RFA Pistons -- --
8 Stephenson, Lance SG 23 4 UFA Pacers -- --
9 Parsons, Chandler SF 25 3 RFA Rockets -- --
10 Wade, Dwyane SG 32 11 UFA Heat -- --
11 Deng, Luol SF 29 10 UFA Cavaliers -- --
12 Hayward, Gordon SG 24 4 RFA Jazz -- --
13 Gortat, Marcin PF 30 7 UFA Wizards -- --
14 Ariza, Trevor SG 28 10 UFA Wizards -- --
15 Gasol, Pau PF 33 13 UFA Lakers -- --
16 Thomas, Isaiah PG 25 3 RFA Kings -- --
17 Livingston, Shaun PG 28 10 UFA Nets -- --
18 Pierce, Paul SF 36 16 UFA Nets -- --
19 Carter, Vince SG 37 16 UFA Mavericks -- --
20 Diaw, Boris PF 32 11 UFA Spurs -- --
21 Allen, Ray SG 38 18 UFA Heat -- --
22 Bradley, Avery PG 23 4 RFA Celtics -- --
23 Marion, Shawn PF 36 15 UFA Mavericks -- --
24 Okafor, Emeka C 31 10 UFA Suns -- --
25 Stuckey, Rodney PG 31 7 UFA Pistons -- --
26 Blatche, Andray C 27 9 UFA Nets -- --
27 Mills, Patty PG 25 5 UFA Spurs -- --
28 Tucker, P.J. SF 29 3 RFA Suns -- --
29 McRoberts, Josh PF 27 7 UFA Hornets -- --
30 Vasquez, Greivis PG 27 4 RFA Raptors -- --
31 Young, Nick SG 29 7 UFA Lakers -- --
32 Hill, Jordan PF 26 5 UFA Lakers -- --
33 Miles, C.J. SF 27 9 UFA Cavaliers -- --
34 Blake, Steve PG 34 11 UFA Warriors -- --
35 Harris, Devin PG 31 10 UFA Mavericks -- --
36 Bayless, Jerryd PG 25 6 UFA Celtics -- --
37 Brooks, Aaron PG 29 6 UFA Nuggets -- --
38 Miller, Mike SF 34 14 UFA Grizzlies -- --
39 Scott, Mike PF 26 2 RFA Hawks -- --
40 Anderson, Alan SF 31 5 UFA Nets -- --
41 Hawes, Spencer C 26 7 UFA Cavaliers -- --
42 Ridnour, Luke PG 33 11 UFA Hornets -- --
43 Williams, Mo PG 31 11 UFA Trail Blazers -- --
44 Patterson, Patrick PF 25 4 RFA Raptors -- --
45 Chalmers, Mario PG 28 6 UFA Heat -- --
46 Crawford, Jordan SG 26 4 RFA Warriors -- --
47 Sessions, Ramon PG 28 7 UFA Bucks -- --
48 Collison, Darren PG 26 5 UFA Clippers -- --
49 Frye, Channing C 31 9 UFA Suns -- --
50 Morrow, Anthony SG 28 6 UFA Pelicans -- --
51 Augustin, D.J. PG 27 6 UFA Bulls -- --
52 Farmar, Jordan PG 28 7 UFA Lakers -- --
53 Booker, Trevor PF 27 4 RFA Wizards -- --
54 Hinrich, Kirk PG 32 11 UFA Bulls -- --
55 Humphries, Kris PF 28 10 UFA Celtics -- --
56 O'Neal, Jermaine C 36 18 UFA Warriors -- --
57 Andersen, Chris PF 35 13 UFA Heat -- --
58 Davis, Ed PF 24 4 RFA Grizzlies -- --
59 Aminu, Al-Farouq SF 24 4 UFA Pelicans -- --
60 Blair, DeJuan PF 25 5 UFA Mavericks -- --
61 Brand, Elton PF 35 15 UFA Hawks -- --
62 Cunningham, Dante SF 27 5 UFA Timberwolves -- --
63 Sefolosha, Thabo SF 29 8 UFA Thunder -- --
64 Williams, Marvin PF 28 9 UFA Jazz -- --
65 Gooden, Drew PF 33 12 UFA Wizards -- --
66 Haslem, Udonis PF 34 11 UFA Heat -- --
67 Kelly, Ryan PF 23 1 RFA Lakers -- --
68 Johnson, James PF 27 5 UFA Grizzlies -- --
69 Meeks, Jodie SG 27 5 UFA Lakers -- --
70 Smith, Jason PF 27 7 UFA Pelicans -- --
71 Daniels, Troy SG 22 1 RFA Rockets -- --
72 Temple, Garrett SG 28 4 UFA Wizards -- --
73 Tolliver, Anthony PF 28 7 UFA Hornets -- --
74 Butler, Caron SF 34 12 UFA Thunder -- --
75 Douglas-Roberts, Chris SG 27 5 UFA Hornets -- --
76 Roberts, Brian PG 28 2 RFA Pelicans -- --
77 Crowder, Jae SF 23 2 RFA Mavericks -- --
78 Adrien, Jeff PF 28 4 UFA Bucks -- --
79 Henry, Xavier SF 23 4 UFA Lakers/a> -- --
80 Beasley, Michael PF 25 6 UFA Heat -- --
81 Fredette, Jimmer PG 25 3 UFA Bulls -- --
82 Davis, Glen PF 28 7 UFA Clippers -- --
83 Garcia, Francisco SG 33 9 UFA TEAM -- --
84 Jerebko, Jonas SF 27 5 UFA Pistons -- --
85 Bazemore, Kent SG 24 2 RFA Lakers -- --
86 Kaman, Chris C 32 11 UFA Lakers -- --
87 Billups, Chauncey PG 37 17 UFA Pistons -- --
88 Jefferson, Richard SF 34 13 UFA TEAM -- --
89 Granger, Danny SF 31 9 UFA Clippers -- --
90 Barbosa, Leandro SG 32 11 UFA Suns -- --
91 Bonner, Matt PF 33 10 UFA Spurs -- --
92 Udrih, Beno PG 31 10 UFA Grizzlies -- --
93 Hamilton, Jordan SF 23 3 UFA Rockets -- --
94 Mack, Shelvin PG 24 3 RFA Hawks -- --
95 Murry, Toure SG 25 1 UFA Knicks -- --
96 Seraphin, Kevin C 25 4 RFA Wizards -- --
97 Harrington, Al PF 34 16 UFA Wizards -- --
98 Jones, James SF 33 11 UFA Heat -- --
99 Ayon, Gustavo PF 29 3 RFA Hawks -- --
100 Butler, Rasual SG 35 11 UFA Pacers -- --
101 Johnson, Wesley SF 26 4 UFA TEAM -- --
102 Douglas, Toney PG 28 5 UFA Heat -- --
103 Baynes, Aron PF 27 2 RFA Spurs -- --
104 Lewis, Rashard PF 34 16 UFA Heat -- --
105 Turner, Evan SF 25 4 RFA Pacers -- --
106 Vesely, Jan PF 24 3 UFA Nuggets -- --
107 Mullens, Byron C 25 5 UFA 76ers -- --
108 Oden, Greg C 26 6 UFA Heat -- --
109 Turkoglu, Hedo SF 35 14 UFA Clippers -- --
110 Watson, Earl PG 35 13 UFA Trail Blazers -- --
111 Gray, Aaron C 29 7 UFA Kings -- --
112 Udoh, Ekpe PF 27 4 UFA Bucks -- --
113 Villanueva, Charlie PF 29 9 UFA Pistons -- --
114 Miller, Darius SF 24 2 RFA Pelicans -- --
115 Pargo, Jannero PG 34 11 UFA Hornets -- --
116 De Colo, Nando PG 27 2 RFA Raptors -- --
117 Hollins, Ryan C 29 8 UFA Clippers -- --
118 Anthony, Joel C 31 7 UFA Celtics -- --
119 Martin, Kenyon PF 36 14 UFA Knicks -- --
120 Moore, E'Twaun PG 25 3 RFA Magic -- --
121 Martin, Cartier SF 29 6 UFA Hawks -- --
122 Allen, Lavoy PF 25 3 RFA Pacers -- --
123 Brooks, MarShon SG 25 3 UFA Lakers -- --
124 Bynum, Andrew C 26 9 UFA Pacers -- --
125 Jeffers, Othyus SG 28 3 RFA Timberwolves -- --
126 James, Damion SF 26 4 UFA Spurs -- --
127 Hummel, Robbie SF 25 1 RFA Timberwolves -- --
128 Collins, Jason SF 35 13 UFA Nets -- --
129 Mohammed, Nazr C 36 16 UFA Bulls -- --
130 Singleton, Chris SF 24 3 UFA Wizards -- --
131 Thomas, Adonis SG 21 1 RFA 76ers -- --
132 Cunningham, Jared SG 23 2 UFA Kings -- --
133 White, D.J. PF 27 6 UFA Hornets -- --
134 James, Bernard C 29 2 RFA Mavericks -- --
135 Southerland, James SF 24 1 RFA Pelicans -- --
136 Jerrett, Grant PF 20 1 RFA Thunder -- --
137 Rush, Brandon SG 28 6 UFA Jazz -- --
I hope they keep Lowry. Sadly it will come at a high price tag, but that team clicked once they moved Rudy Gay out. Most of that same squad is coming back...hell, they don't even have to win the trophy, just make it to the second round!
NBA Free Agency has started. Let the chaos begin...
Here's the NBA Free Agency Live Tracker for all interested parties.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602006/nba-free-agency-roundup-lebron-james-not-scheduling-meetings-more (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602006/nba-free-agency-roundup-lebron-james-not-scheduling-meetings-more)
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Report: Rockets GM in Philly first night of free agency to chase Kyle Lowry
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/01/report-rockets-gm-in-philly-first-night-of-free-agency-to-chase-kyle-lowry/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/01/report-rockets-gm-in-philly-first-night-of-free-agency-to-chase-kyle-lowry/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteKyle Lowry is a highly sought after free agent for a couple reasons.
One: The point guard position has become key in the NBA and he is the best one available, a, aggressive, slashing player who puts up points, can dish the rock and plays strong defense.
Second: He's available, unlike some of the guy atop the free agent ladder (LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, etc).
The Toronto Raptors think they can keep him and are going hard with a big money offer, but Houston Rockets' GM Daryl Morey is making a first hand pitch in the opening hours of free agency as well, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
In some ways Lowry makes more sense than Carmelo Anthony for the Rockets. He and James Harden would form as dynamic and maybe the most aggressive and attacking backcourt in the league. Plus Lowry gives the Rockets a good defender at the guard spot. One of the concerns with Anthony on the Rockets is that him and Harden together on the floor at one time leaves a lot of defensive messes for Dwight Howard to try to clean up.
Lowry has a lot of suitors. Minnesota's Kevin McHale is reportedly among those in Philly to make an in person pitch. Miami has interest but the prices being bandied about — the Raptors offer reportedly starts at $12 million a year — is going to be too rich for their blood unless some of the big three take a massive pay cut.
Toronto GM Masai Ujiri is confident the Raptors can win him back, in part because of a big money offer that begins with at least that $12 million number.
What Lowry has are options.
Heat's reported free agent targets: Steve Blake, Shawn Marion, Vince Carter, Marvin Williams, Trevor Ariza, Kyle Lowry, DeJuan Blair, Spencer Hawes, Channing Frye
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/01/heats-reported-free-agent-targets-steve-blake-shawn-marion-vince-carter-marvin-williams-trevor-ariza-kyle-lowry-dejuan-blair-spencer-hawes-channing-frye/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/01/heats-reported-free-agent-targets-steve-blake-shawn-marion-vince-carter-marvin-williams-trevor-ariza-kyle-lowry-dejuan-blair-spencer-hawes-channing-frye/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteLeBron James might want a max contract.
Or he, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh might accept less to allow Pat Riley to upgrade the Heat's supporting cast.
I believe the uncertainty rests in whom Riley could land. I don't see the big three taking pay cuts to make room for just anyone.
Sean Deveney of Sporting News:
According to sources, among the players the Heat will pursue are veteran Warriors guard Steve Blake, who can play either guard spot, can knock down 3-pointers and is expected to draw interest from other contenders, like the Thunder.
Another pair of graybeards is also on the Heat list: Shawn Marion of the Mavericks and teammate Vince Carter. Both players have expressed interest in the team, and the feeling is said to be mutual.
The Heat would like to add someone in his prime this summer, including Marvin Williams, Trevor Ariza or Kyle Lowry. But the fact is, there won't be much available when it comes to players in their 20s, and the Heat can't go overboard with spending. DeJuan Blair is a possibility at power forward, while Spencer Hawes and Channing Frye are outside possibilities for the frontcourt.
Beyond Lowry – who's receiving plenty of attention from the Raptors and Rockets – and maaaybe Ariza, those players don't warrant LeBron, Wade and Bosh relinquishing salary.
Miami needs better support for the big three, and these players could push the Heat over the edge to the championship next season. It's not as if they were that far off this year, and the won the previous two years.
But most of these players are not exceptional. They're supporting players, and the mid-level exception, bi-annual exception or minimum salaries – what Miami would have available if the big three seek big deals – should be enough to lure them to a championship-caliber team playing in a tax-free state with great weather.
When Marvin Williams is a longshot, that says something about the Heat's options.
Pacers just took free agent pitches to the next level...
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Report: Pacers' pitch to Lance Stephenson started with personal movie
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602226/report-pacers-pitch-to-lance-stephenson-started-with-personal-movie (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24602226/report-pacers-pitch-to-lance-stephenson-started-with-personal-movie)
QuoteThe Indiana Pacers want to retain unrestricted free agent Lance Stephenson. Despite all his warts, and the ear-blowing and all, he was a fantastic player for them last year, is healthy, athletic, and young. So they're going all out to keep him as free agency hits.
To the point where they have produced a movie of his life with the Pacers. They're literally showing a movie of his time in Indianapolis to him, his friends, and family, in a movie theater and the whole thing.
Sometime shortly after midnight Tuesday, Lance Stephenson will be seated with his family and friends in a movie theater. The lights will go down and the 'Born Ready' life story will flash before Stephenson's eyes on the big screen.
Inside the entertainment complex based in suburban Indianapolis, the Pacers' commitment begins in earnest where a private party will be held and a love letter set to moving pictures will play with the hopes of keeping Stephenson. The movie will feature moments from when Stephenson arrived in Indiana to the point he is now, a potential Eastern Conference All-Star and a key figure in a core that can compete for a title. After midnight, however, the real picture of Stephenson's future will take shape.
via Pursuit of Indiana Pacers G Lance Stephenson begins at midnight.
I have so many questions.
Who did they get to produce and direct this thing? Was it McG? Larry Bird seems like a McG guy. Tell me it was McG.
Did they have art direction?
Did it show the part where he made the choke sign at LeBron James? Or the ear-blowing moment? I won't get into some of the much uglier off-court issues which I assume were missing.
Did they get special merchandise, like the theaters do? Was there a "Born Ready for Diabetes" special jumbo-sized soda cup? How about a Born Ready popcorn bucket? You have to capitalize on the merchandise. Everyone knows that's where the money is at.
Was it in 3-D? I bet it was in 3-D. Lance seems like a dude who would love 3-D.
The Pacers do have a tough decision to make with Stephenson. He's going to get some crazy offers in free agency, and they have to determine exactly how much is too much for the termperamental triple-double threat.
I hate to be that bubble bursting guy, but I don't think many of these dominoes are going to start falling until Lebron decides which city I'm going to hate him playing in next.
Good news, Cavs fans:
NBA on ESPN @ESPNNBA 25s
Via Cavaliers owner @cavsdan, Kyrie Irving has agreed to a 5-year max contract extension.
Bucks name Jason Kidd coach
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11161771/milwaukee-bucks-officially-name-jason-kidd-coach-trade (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11161771/milwaukee-bucks-officially-name-jason-kidd-coach-trade)
QuoteThe Milwaukee Bucks hired Jason Kidd as coach Tuesday after completing a deal with the Brooklyn Nets.
The Bucks sent the Nets two second-round picks (one in 2015 and another in '19) for Kidd, who went 44-38 in his only season as Brooklyn coach.
"When you list the characteristics that make a successful head coach, you would include leadership, communication and a competitive drive," general manager John Hammond said in a statement. "Jason used all of those traits to become a 10-time All-Star player in the NBA, and has now translated his on-court success to the bench. We welcome him to the Bucks organization and look forward to building a Championship-caliber team with him as our head coach."
Milwaukee fired Larry Drew on Monday after reaching the deal for Kidd. Drew went 15-67, the worst record in the league, in his only season guiding the Bucks.
"Despite the challenging season, Larry always handled himself and represented the Bucks in a first-class manner,'' Hammond said in a statement on Drew's firing Monday. "Larry did the best he could in a difficult situation, especially given all of our injuries. I want to thank Larry for all of his efforts, and we wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors.''
Bucks co-owners Marc Lasry and Wes Edens said in a statement that Kidd "is a determined leader, a tough-minded competitor and a great teammate."
Kidd sought control of the Nets' basketball operations department after his first season as coach and was denied. The Nets then gave him permission to talk to other teams about a job.
It was a stunningly quick ending to Kidd's reunion with the franchise he twice led to the NBA Finals as a player. The Nets hired him last June as coach just weeks after he retired as a player and retired his No. 5 before a preseason game in October. Also, he bought a small portion of the team.
A league source told ESPNNewYork.com that Lionel Hollins has already emerged as "a very serious candidate" to become the Nets' head coach.
Nets general manager Billy King said Tuesday that the team's brass had dinner with Hollins on Monday and plan to meet with the former Grizzlies coach again.
King said the team planned to meet with Hollins, the ex-coach of the Memphis Grizzlies, again Tuesday.
"If we need to reach out to some more people, we'll reach out to some more people," King said. "It's an ongoing process."
The Nets would like to have a coach in place sooner than later, however, because the free agency period has already begun.
Hollins led the Grizzlies to three consecutive playoff appearances in his last three seasons in Memphis. In 2012-13, his last year at the helm, the Grizzlies won 56 games and advanced all the way to the Western Conference finals. The two sides ultimately decided to part ways and Hollins' contract was not renewed, apparently because there were "philosophical differences" between Hollins and ownership.
"If you look at track record and what he did in Memphis, they got consistently got better every year," King said.
Ettore Messina, former coach of CSKA Moscow, also is a leading contender for the Nets' opening, a source told ESPN.com.
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NBA free agency roundup: Kyrie Irving agrees to max extension, more
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QuoteMore Offseason Analysis: Coaching changes, news | Free Agency | Draft
Free agency officially started at midnight on Tuesday, and that means there's piles of news about comings and goings. This post will periodically update with the latest:
Tuesday, July 1
Update 1:19 p.m. ET
• Some members of the Bulls organization are reportedly "pessimistic" about their chances to land Carmelo Anthony. Their recruiting pitch has started, though, and they're being rather public about it.
• Dirk Nowitzki will be the "star face of Dallas' recruiting team" when the Mavs meet with Anthony on Wednesday, reports ESPN's Marc Stein. As for Nowitzki's contract, he and the Mavs already have a ballpark figure since they discussed an extension before the start of free agency, according to ESPN. They decided not to sign an extension, in order to preserve flexibility for free agency.
• It's Kent Bazemore's 25th birthday! You can add the Suns and Bulls to your list of teams pursuing him, per NBA.com's Jeff Caplan.
Update 11:31 a.m. ET
• Carmelo Anthony's wife, La La, is "very happy in New York and is opposed to Melo leaving the Knicks," according to Marc Berman of the New York Post.
• Cleveland might join the Greg Monroe sweepstakes, despite having all of the power forwards in the world, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
• Isaiah Thomas' decision is expected to come after Kyle Lowry's, according to Bleacher Report's Jared Zwerling.
• The Magic have put up two billboards to thank Jameer Nelson for his 10 years with the team. They're going all-out.
• It "got emotional" for Lance Stephenson's loved ones during the movie the Pacers produced for him, according to the Indianapolis Star's Candace Buckner.
• The Mavs have interest in Al-Farouq Aminu, per ESPN's Tim McMahon.
• Around the league, teams think Mike Scott "can be had with a strong offer sheet" because the Hawks are trying to preserve cap room, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
Update 10:55 a.m. ET
• The Mavs expect to meet with Trevor Ariza and Chandler Parsons soon, as well as Carmelo Anthony and Luol Deng, reports CBSSports.com's Ken Berger, who adds that Dirk Nowitzki will let the team acquire reinforcements before negotiating a new deal.
• A sign-and-trade would be a "high possibility" for Greg Monroe if he gets a max offer, a source told CBSSports.com's Ken Berger.
• Nets GM Billy King said he knows it'll be "difficult" to re-sign Shaun Livingston. He also said that the team has not reached out to Andray Blatche. It would not be wise to bet on Blatche returning to Brooklyn.
• The Pistons are expected to meet with Anthony Morrow soon, according to the Detroit News' Vincent Goodwill.
Update 10:02 a.m. ET
• The Cavs are trying to bring LeBron James back home, and they're reportedly planning to use Dan Gilbert's deep pockets as a selling point. Dan Gilbert. Selling point. LeBron James.
• The Pacers will meet with C.J. Miles on Tuesday, and the Cavs think he's "likely to move on" to have a bigger role elsewhere, per Fox Sports Ohio.
• The list of players the Lakers reportedly contacted is long, and it includes Gordon Hayward, according to ESPN. They also reached out to reps for Jodie Meeks, Nick Young and Jordan Hill.
• Hill was also contacted directly by the Celtics, per Sean Deveney of the Sporting News.
• The Nets are optimistic they can keep Paul Pierce, but see Doc Rivers' Clippers as the "most serious threat," according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
Update: 9:15 a.m. ET
• K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune reports the Bulls' are starting their free agency off by speaking with Carmelo Anthony, but they've also expressed interest in Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, and bringing back Kirk Hinrich as well.
• Caron Butler is drawing interest from the Heat, Clippers, and Thunder, according to David Aldridge of NBA.com.
• The market for Brooklyn Nets' backup point guard Shaun Livingston is crowded. Marc Stein of ESPN.com says the Charlotte Hornets, San Antonio Spurs, Minnesota Timberwolves, Sacramento Kings and Orlando Magic are all interested. If the Nets want to re-sign him, they'll have to hope he'll take a discounted rate because of their luxury tax limitations.
• The Washington Wizards are moving quickly on trying to re-sign center Marcin Gortat, according to Michael Lee of the Washington Post. They're meeting with him Tuesday morning.
Update: 1:59 a.m. ET
• The Cavaliers have reached an agreement on a five-year, $90 million contract extension with Kyrie Irving. Cleveland owner Dan Gilbert announced it on Twitter. The contract can't be signed until the league's moratorium is lifted on July 10.
• Toronto is considering adding a fifth year to its offer to Kyle Lowry, as a result of the number of teams pursuing him, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
• Miami reached out to Lowry's agent, and the two sides will speak in the morning, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
• Dallas doesn't have Isaiah Thomas high on its list of priorities, though the team did reach out to him tonight, according to ESPN's Tim McMahon.
Update: 1:30 a.m. ET
• The Clippers "continue to have an interest in LeBron and Melo," according to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne. And why wouldn't they? They also reportedly have called their own free agent point guard, Darren Collison.
• More Clippers: They reportedly think they have a "real chance" of luring Paul Pierce away from Brooklyn after the whole Jason Kidd debacle. The Blazers, Grizzlies, Bulls, Mavericks and Rockets have also reportedly called to register their interest Pierce.
• A Pacers source told the Indianapolis Star's Candace Buckner that Lance Stephenson is "our No. 1 priority and we'll know something by [Tuesday], hopefully." Also, um, they have quite a pitch for him.
• You can add the Celtics and Warriors to your list of teams that have reportedly expressed interest in Isaiah Thomas.
• Kyle Lowry has heard from the Heat, Lakers and Mavericks in addition to the Raptors and Rockets tonight, according to USA Today's Sam Amick.
• The Lakers reportedly have reached out to Pau Gasol.
• Luol Deng's former team, Chicago, reportedly has interest in him. So do the Los Angeles Lakers.
• Portland reportedly wants a stretch-four, and is targeting Josh McRoberts and Boris Diaw in addition to Spencer Hawes. Blazers GM Neil Olshey and head coach Terry Stotts reportedly met with Hawes in Los Angeles.
• The Lakers have reportedly reached out to Kent Bazemore! Their first priority is LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony, though. Weird.
Update: 12:56 a.m. ET
• Carmelo Anthony will, as expected, meet with the Knicks on Tuesday, as reported by CBSSports.com's Ken Berger. He will then meet with the Mavericks and Rockets on Wednesday, and the Lakers on Thursday. The Knicks are still seen as the favorites.
• Kyle Lowry will actually meet with the Raptors during the day on Tuesday, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
• The Clippers, Mavs and Hawks "led the charge" in reaching out to Luol Deng's reps, according to CBSSports.com's Ken Berger. Heat president Pat Riley also placed a call, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
• Brooklyn immediately reached out to Paul Pierce, Shaun Livingston and Alan Anderson when free agency began, Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports.
• Phoenix plans to make an offer to restricted free agent Eric Bledsoe in the "next day or two," according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski. Same with the Jazz and Gordon Hayward.
• The Bulls and Mavs are interested in Chandler Parsons, according to Marc Stein of ESPN, who adds that Minnesota "continues to monitor" him. Dallas will "be aggressive in pursuit of Parsons" if it doesn't get Carmelo Anthony, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski. The Lakers and Suns are also interested, according to ESPN's Jeff Goodman.
• David Blatt is reportedly in the Cavs' meeting with Kyrie Irving in New Jersey. Kevin McHale will reportedly be in the Rockets' meeting with Kyle Lowry.
• Pau Gasol is not taking any midnight meetings, according to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne. Rather, he's taking calls from Los Angeles.
• Cleveland is reportedly among the teams courting Trevor Ariza. The Wizards will reportedly meet with him at noon on Tuesday. The Suns, Clippers, Lakers, Heat, Mavericks, and Jazz have also reportedly contacted him.
• Boston and Philadelphia have reportedly called Avery Bradley.
• The Clippers are reportedly interested in Ed Davis.
• The Blazers, Clippers, Rockets and Mavs are all reportedly interested in Spencer Hawes, as are the Cavs.
• Trevor Booker "has attracted interest" from Miami, Minnesota, Utah, Brooklyn, New York, Orlando and Washington, according to the Washington Post's Michael Lee.
• Houston will talk to James Johnson, according to NBA.com's David Aldridge.
• Rashard Lewis is "expecting interest" from Miami, Indiana, Toronto, Oklahoma City and San Antonio, according to Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears.
• Kent Bazemore has reportedly been contacted by Boston, Dallas and Atlanta. The Lakers have reportedly not reached out to him yet.
Update: 12:20 a.m. ET
• Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey reportedly traveled to Philadelphia to meet with Kyle Lowry.
• The Lakers are reportedly interested in Chris Bosh.
• The Knicks "are confident they will get the final sales pitch" with Carmelo Anthony, according to Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears.
• The Mavericks are busy. Their first face-to-face meeting is reportedly with Devin Harris, and owner Mark Cuban is also reportedly "calling Dirk Nowitzki, Vince Carter, Shawn Marion and many others." Luol Deng is one of the many others, as the first call his reps received was reportedly from Dallas.
• The Heat are reportedly after Carter, Marion and Steve Blake.
LeBron James is a free agent at midnight on July 1.
LeBron James is a free agent. (USATSI)
Monday, June 30
Update 11:49 p.m. ET
• The Pistons, Heat, Lakers, Mavs and Suns have all reportedly expressed interest in Isaiah Thomas, who is a restricted free agent.
• Vince Carter reportedly has no interest in giving the Mavs a discount.
• The Clippers have reportedly contacted Danny Granger's reps to say that they want him back, but money could be an issue. Would he command more than the minimum?
• Channing Frye told the Oregonian that coming back to Portland "would be an option."
• The Pacers are reportedly targeting Xavier Henry as an Evan Turner replacement.
Update: 11:10 p.m. ET:
• LeBron James' agent, Rich Paul, will reportedly meet with teams in Cleveland this week, though James will not be present.
• OK, this is weird: Sportsnet's Michael Grange says there's some "clever scamming" going on, whereby someone with a 414 area code is spreading false information. It would seem that this person briefly fooled Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears, who had to apologize for tweeting that the Raptors would offer Kyle Lowry a deal starting at $14.5 million per season. The Toronto Star's Bruce Arthur reports that Lowry was asking for four years and $50 million, and ESPN's Marc Stein reports that he heard the offer would start at $12 million per season.
• Portland reportedly has "serious interest" in a sign-and-trade for Greg Monroe. Weird fit with LaMarcus Aldridge, but sure!
• You can add Phoenix and Atlanta to the list of teams interested in Pau Gasol. Golden State, too, though a sign-and-trade would be necessary, per Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.
• ESPN's Marc Stein reports that Oklahoma City will not be in the running for Gasol.
Update: 10 p.m. ET:
• LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh reportedly plan to give Heat president Pat Riley "a window to enact his plan" to improve their supporting cast, according to Yahoo Sports.
• The Rockets will reportedly use their "extensive collection of gadgetry" in their pitch for Carmelo Anthony, where they will try to convince him they'd be title contenders.
• Chandler Parsons, who many assumed would be out the door in the event Houston attracted another star, will reportedly be a part of the proposed plan to win with him.
• If the Rockets can't sign Anthony, they'll reportedly turn their attention to Bosh and Kyle Lowry.
• The Magic honored Jameer Nelson after waiving him. That's pretty cool of them.
• Chauncey Billups "will take the next couple weeks to contemplate his next move," according to ESPN's Marc Stein. He is a free agent, as the Pistons declined their team option.
• The Wizards will meet with Trevor Ariza on Tuesday, and are expected to re-sign Drew Gooden to a minimum contract, according to Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears.
• David Aldridge of NBA.com reports that the Raptors are "very hopeful" that they can re-sign Kyle Lowry, but a deal is not done. This is where we add that, legally, a deal cannot be done.
• Evan Turner will be an unrestricted free agent, as the Pacers reportedly won't extend him a qualifying offer.
• The Hawks and Magic are interested in Greg Monroe, according to ESPN's Marc Stein, who adds that Detroit wants to keep him, but "won't rule out" a sign-and-trade if the price tag is too high.
• The Clippers are reportedly interested in bringing back Glen Davis.
Update: 7:51 p.m. ET:
• LeBron James reportedly wants a maximum contract, and he's not scheduling any meetings with teams. It sure looks like he wants to return to the Miami Heat.
• Carmelo Anthony should not expect a call from Chicago Bulls star Derrick Rose any time soon.
• The Cleveland Cavaliers will reportedly meet Kyrie Irving in New Jersey to offer him a maximum contract extension the moment that he is eligible for one.
• Toronto Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri will reportedly meet with Kyle Lowry at midnight to try to reach an agreement with him before other suitors can make their bids. A deal is reportedly "as good as done."
• Pau Gasol will reportedly meet with the Oklahoma City Thunder, Chicago Bulls and Golden State Warriors. He might also sit down with the Los Angeles Lakers. The New York Knicks also reportedly plan to pursue him, as do the Dallas Mavericks.
• The Lakers are reportedly interested in Lowry, Trevor Ariza, Greg Monroe and Channing Frye.
• The Washington Wizards are reportedly the frontrunners for Ariza, but the Clippers, Pistons, Suns and Rockets are all interested, in addition to the Lakers.
• The Orlando Magic waived Jameer Nelson, so he will be an unrestricted free agent. They also claimed Willie Green off waivers.
• Mike Miller plans to meet with four to five teams, but the Grizzlies can lock him up with the right deal, he told the Memphis Commercial-Appeal. He said he "badly" wants to stay.
• Ed Davis will be an unrestricted free agent.
• Ekpe Udoh will be an unrestricted free agent.
• The Pistons declined to pick up their option on Chauncey Billups, and he is considering retirement.
• Toure' Murry will be an unrestricted free agent, but the Knicks reportedly want him back.
• The Heat, Raptors, Thunder and Blazers all are reportedly interested in Vince Carter, but the Mavericks would like to keep him.
• The Philadelphia 76ers reportedly waived James Anderson.
• Bo McCalebb might finally jump from Europe to the NBA.
• The San Antonio Spurs reportedly are expected not to waive Austin Daye.
• Jordan Crawford will reportedly be an unrestricted free agent.
Just going to pull out one nugget...
Quote• The Heat, Raptors, Thunder and Blazers all are reportedly interested in Vince Carter, but the Mavericks would like to keep him.
Really...If the Raptors brought Carter back, it would be interesting. I think up until last year, he got booed heavily every time he came back to TO, so I wonder if the fans would suddenly flip script or if they'd still harbor some ill will towards him.
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Reports: Kyle Lowry mulling offer from Raptors, him going to Houston "dead"
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QuoteRockets GM Daryl Morey flew to Philadelphia for the opening of free agency not because of a love of cheesesteaks but because that is where Kyle Lowry was. Morey even reportedly brought his coach Kevin McHale with him.
Didn't matter.
The Rockets deal is dead and the Raptors are the ones with an offer on the table, according to reports from Chris Broussard of ESPN and Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
The Raptors offer reportedly is either four or five years starting at $12 million a year. The Rockets sign-and-trade involved Chandler Parsons.
The Miami Heat have interest in Lowry but they would need him to take a discount — they have less than $13 million in cap space — and that is not likely. (Unless Riley wants to blow his wad on one player, also not likely.) The Lakers are interested but the Raptors are getting serious consideration first, Woj reports..
But the Raptors were always in the driver's seat, and now their offer is on the table. Sometimes it's hard to come from the outside and beat the guy already in the clubhouse with the good score.
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Pay cuts for Wade, Bosh?
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QuoteAs they chase free agents to join with their superstars, the Miami Heat are telling free agents they expect to have as much as $12 million in salary-cap space after getting LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to re-sign, sources told ESPN.com.
With James demanding a maximum contract starting around $20.7 million, this indicates that Wade and Bosh have expressed a willingness to take drastic pay cuts to help the Heat add talent to the roster.
This has freed up the Heat to become a serious bidder for free agent point guard Kyle Lowry, whom they are seeking a meeting with, sources said.
Wade and Bosh were each scheduled to earn earn more than $20 million this upcoming season and a total of $40 million over the next two years. But they opted out of those contracts this past weekend, as did teammate Udonis Haslem, who was scheduled to make $4.6 million next season.
Last week, James, Wade and Bosh met and started to hash out some rough contract numbers between them. In 2010, they all agreed to take less than the maximum salary to help add free agents to the roster. At the meeting, sources told ESPN, James made it clear he would only accept the maximum salary number for the upcoming season.
On Tuesday, the Portland Oregonian reported that Bosh has plans to accept a five-year contract starting at $11 million, and Wade would accept a four-year deal starting at $12 million. Combined with James and a representative number for Haslem, the Heat would indeed have the space to go after top free agents like Lowry and Washington Wizards free agent center Marcin Gortat.
James, however, had not decided how long of a contract he is seeking from the Heat and could accept a short-term deal, sources told ESPN.
First free agent signing.
Pistons to sign Jodie Meeks for three years, $19 million, per report
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QuoteThe Detroit Pistons have signed guard Jodie Meeks to a three-year contract worth $19 million, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
Meeks averaged 15.7 points per game last season with the Los Angeles Lakers in his fifth NBA season. More to come...
I like this signing. I think the Lakers should've brought Meeks back but I think he's a solid addition to the Pistons.
$12 million is still too much for Wade at this point..
Why aren't the Heat interested in Gasol? Quality post player who could really help them out. If he does take a meeting with OKC and picks them it might be game over next season.
They're too busy looking at Gortat.
Gortat would be a good get for them as well.
I agree. I mean ANY team should want to keep a guy so bad ass he rides to his basketball camp in a humvee with a giant gun.
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Marcin Gortat to stay with Wizards
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QuoteMarcin Gortat will re-sign with the Washington Wizards, ESPN.com's Marc Stein confirmed Tuesday night.
News of the deal was first tweeted by Wizards point guard John Wall.
Gortat agreed to a five-year deal worth a fully guaranteed $60 million, with neither a player nor a team option entering the final season.
The deal can't officially be signed until July 10 when the league moratorium is lifted.
But Wall broke the news of the agreement:
Gortat also took to Twitter on Tuesday night.
The 30-year-old center, averaged 13.2 points and 9.5 rebounds per game last season, his first with the Wizards.
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Shaun Livingston reaches agreement on three-year deal with Warriors
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QuoteCBSSports.com's Ken Berger confirms reports from ESPN, Yahoo, and USA Today that the Golden State Warriors have reached an agreement with free agent point guard Shaun Livingston. The deal is for a reported three-years, $16 million with a partial guarantee in the third year. To sign Livingston, the Warriors used the full Mid-Level Exception available to them.
It's tremendous value for the Warriors, who addressed a key need at backup point guard and also provided themselves with an insurance policy in the unlikely event that they trade Klay Thompson (conceivably in a Kevin Love deal, or otherwise). Livingston turns just 29 next season, and averaged 8.3 points and 3.2 assists per game for the Nets shooting 48 percent from the field. He's the rare Warriors guard who doesn't shoot well from the perimeter, but they needed a floor general and perimeter defender more than another shooter anyway.
The departure of Jordan Crawford paved the way for Livingston's addition. The Nets will miss what Livingston brought last season, as the veteran guard started several games in place of Deron Williams last year. Livingston's career was nearly cut short by a severe knee injury early on with the Clippers, but he battled to not only return as a rotation player, but a quality defender with a strong post game and good instincts. This makes the Warriors better.
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Lionel Hollins, Nets agree to deal
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QuoteThe Brooklyn Nets have agreed in principle to a deal making Lionel Hollins their next head coach.
Hollins' deal could be worth as much as 4 years, $20 million if the team picks up his fourth-year option, a source told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne.
"We have a nice nucleus to build with," Hollins told Shelburne. "We want to be better than last year, and obviously that's going to take work. We're going to work hard, be aggressive and we're never going to quit."
Hollins led the Memphis Grizzlies to three consecutive playoff appearances in his last three seasons with the team. In 2012-13, his final year at the helm, the Grizzlies won 56 games and advanced all the way to the Western Conference finals. The two sides ultimately decided to part ways, and Hollins' contract was not renewed, apparently because there were philosophical differences between him and ownership.
Hollins takes over for Jason Kidd, who left the team for the Milwaukee Bucks earlier this week.
Sources say the Nets wanted to move quickly in the wake of the Kidd saga and lasered in on Hollins immediately, meeting with him Monday and Tuesday.
Hollins has been a favorite of Nets officials for some time and was pursued by Brooklyn to serve as an assistant to Kidd after the in-season departure of Lawrence Frank, but the former Grizzlies coach was determined to wait for a head-coaching opportunity. Hollins was also chased hard this spring by the Houston Rockets to serve as the top aide to Rockets coach Kevin McHale in the event that Hollins didn't land a top position.
"I'm humbled," Hollins said. "The process to get back in the league was a long one. But I'm thankful to God because I believe this is the perfect fit for me."
Nets general manager Billy King, during an appearance Wednesday on ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike," said experience would be key when making the team's next head-coaching hire.
"One, I think we're looking for experience, someone we'll build with for a long time," King said. "Someone who can develop young players, develop veterans and have a tough mindset. But someone also who has the experience who can take us to where we want to go."
On Tuesday, King praised Hollins' work in Memphis.
"If you look at his track record and what he did in Memphis, they consistently got better every year," he said.
Hollins said his first order of business is to meet with players including Kevin Garnett, Deron Williams, Joe Johnson and Brook Lopez. He also said he'd help King in any way he can with free agents such as Paul Pierce, but is going to follow King's lead.
The deal with Hollins caps a tumultuous week for the Nets.
King learned of Kidd's intentions to leave for Milwaukee last Wednesday. Sources told ESPN.com that Kidd, who was hired at the start of last season, went to Nets ownership and requested authority to make player personnel decisions in addition to his head-coaching duties. That request was denied, and the Nets granted Kidd permission to speak with the Bucks.
The teams eventually decided on compensation for Kidd, with the Bucks trading two second-round draft picks (2015, '19) for him in a deal that became official Tuesday.
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Avery Bradley to stay with Celtics
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QuoteWALTHAM, Mass. -- Free agent point guard Avery Bradley has agreed to re-sign with the Boston Celtics on Wednesday, according to a league source.
Bradley's new deal is for $32 million over four years. The Boston Herald first reported the agreement.
The Celtics had originally extended a $3.6 million qualifying offer on Monday that gave them an opportunity to match any outside offer that Bradley received when free agency opened.
Boston made Bradley a priority when free agency opened at midnight on July 1 and the two sides, who couldn't come to an agreement on an extension before an October deadline to extend rookie pacts, moved quickly to put a deal in place.
Speaking at his Boston-based basketball camp on Monday, Bradley said: "I want to be here. And I let [the Celtics] know that. When the time comes, we'll just see what happens, and see if we come to an agreement."
Bradley is coming off a solid 2013-14 season in which he averaged a career-high 14.9 points to go along with 3.8 rebounds, 1.4 assists and 1.1 steals over 30.9 minutes per game in 60 appearances.
Bradley rediscovered the consistency in his offensive game that had disappeared after double shoulder surgery two summers ago and was a much better rebounder. His defense slipped a bit this season, reflected in him landing only a handful of votes for the NBA's All-Defensive teams despite being a second-teamer after the 2012-13 campaign.
Before Boston's final game of the season, Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said: "Avery had a good season. I've seen improvement in Avery this year. The biggest issue with Avery has just been health. He plays hard and he's had some injuries, but none of them are injuries that should prevent him from being a great player."
Bradley missed 22 games this season because of ankle woes, and he missed 31 games the prior season after the double shoulder surgery. He also missed time at the start of his rookie campaign while recovering from surgery to repair a chipped bone in his ankle.
The Celtics believe Bradley, set to enter his fifth NBA season, is still developing. He supplanted Ray Allen as the team's starting shooting guard at the end of the 2011-12 season and the team likes the way he complements point guard Rajon Rondo in the backcourt.
The Celtics drafted Oklahoma State point guard Marcus Smart with the sixth pick in last week's draft, but Ainge stressed that he envisions a potential three-guard rotation in which Bradley, Smart and Rondo log the lion's share of minutes.
Sources: C.J. Miles lands 4-year deal
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QuoteC.J. Miles announced Wednesday on Twitter that he is headed to the Indiana Pacers via free agency.
Miles and the Pacers agreed to a four-year deal in the $18 million range, sources confirmed. The deal could potentially cut into the Pacers' flexibility when it comes to trying to re-sign swingman Lance Stephenson.
The Indianapolis Star first reported Wednesday that Miles had struck a multiyear deal with the Pacers.
Miles spent the last two seasons with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He averaged 9.9 points in 51 games for the Cavs this past season.
The Pacers also struck bargain deals Thursday with European prospect Damjan Rudez and undrafted free agent Shayne Whittington as they try to improve their roster after a disappointing second half of the season and an Eastern Conference finals defeat to Miami.
Indiana can't sign Miles until July 10, when a leaguewide moratorium on signings and trades is lifted. The Pacers might be forced to make tough decisions on players such as Luis Scola and Chris Copeland to ensure they have enough room under the luxury-tax line to afford Stephenson, with whom they've reached an impasse in contract talks, according to ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.
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Rockets show image of Melo in No. 7
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11168612/houston-rockets-dis-jeremy-lin-image-carmelo-anthony-no-7 (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11168612/houston-rockets-dis-jeremy-lin-image-carmelo-anthony-no-7)
QuoteIf it wasn't clear before Wednesday that Jeremy Lin's days with the Houston Rockets were numbered, it is now.
In an effort to court Carmelo Anthony, the Rockets posted pictures of Anthony in a No. 7 jersey in the windows near one of the entrances to the Toyota Center.
Anthony wore No. 7 with the New York Knicks, so it makes sense that they'd want to let him know how he'd look in Rockets red. The only problem? Lin currently wears No. 7 in Houston.
Lin responded to the development by tweeting a Bible verse Wednesday morning.
Wednesday's visit in Houston is the second leg of Anthony's free-agent tour after he met with the Bulls in Chicago on Tuesday. He is scheduled to travel to Dallas to meet with the Mavericks later Wednesday.
Among the contingent meeting with Anthony at the Toyota Center were Rockets center Dwight Howard and guard James Harden, owner Les Alexander, general manager Daryl Morey and coach Kevin McHale. Hall of Famer Clyde Drexler also is there to help with Houston's pitch.
Most expect Lin to be moved in a trade to help the Rockets clear enough cap space to offer Anthony a near-max contract. There's an irony here because Anthony, according to reports, wasn't too thrilled when Lin garnered so much attention during his "Linsanity" run in 2012.
Several reports state that Houston already has a deal in place to move Lin if the Rockets get a commitment from Anthony. Houston will likely have to move Lin and the $8.3 million that his contract counts for on its books to acquire Anthony.
However, the Rockets have potentially created an awkward situation for next season if they fail to sign Anthony and Lin ends up back with the Rockets to fulfill the final season of his contract.
The Knicks are the only team that can offer Anthony a max contract worth $129 million over five years, but it's uncertain whether the Knicks will offer him a maximum contract.
The Bulls also greeted Anthony with an image of him in their team's jersey.
On Tuesday, the marquee in the front of the United Center showed Anthony as a Bull with the Larry O'Brien Trophy as the organization clearly tries to appeal to his stated desire to win, possibly even taking less money to do so.
Derrick Rose, who had previously said he wouldn't help recruit Anthony, was part of the Bulls' pitch meeting Tuesday. Rose declined comment as he left the United Center on Tuesday afternoon, but a source described the meetings, which included appearances from Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson and Rose, as "good" to ESPNChicago.com's Nick Friedell.
Anthony is scheduled to meet with the Los Angeles Lakers on Thursday in L.A.
The Knicks, meanwhile, expect to meet with Anthony after he concludes his visits with the Mavericks, Rockets and Lakers, sources told ESPNNewYork.com. The date and location of the Knicks meeting are unclear at this point.
Houston got the biggest prize in free agency last offseason when it signed Howard away from the Lakers, with designs on making a deep run in the playoffs this year. But the Rockets were bounced from the postseason in the first round just as they were the year before. So they started looking for more upgrades to the roster.
They made the first move to free up money for adding players by agreeing to a trade that will send center Omer Asik and cash considerations to the New Orleans Pelicans for a protected future first-round draft pick.
Not a big fan of that Bradley contract. I think the 4/24 the team offered during the season was too much, let alone 4/32...
I think this makes the Spurs Finals win even more impressive...
Manu Ginobili played with fracture
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11169098/san-antonio-spurs-guard-manu-ginobili-played-stress-fracture-finals (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11169098/san-antonio-spurs-guard-manu-ginobili-played-stress-fracture-finals)
QuoteSan Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili played with a slight stress fracture in his right leg during the Finals, according to multiple reports.
The fracture was discovered during a routine postseason physical, a league source told the San Antonio Express-News.
The injury could jeopardize Ginobili's plans to play with Argentina's basketball team in the FIBA Basketball World Cup this summer. Ginobili, who is consulting with a foot specialist for a second opinion, could miss up to two months if he is out. He is expected to be ready for training camp in late September.
The injury was earlier reported by Yahoo! Sports.
Ginobili, 36, averaged 14.4 points and 4.4 assists during the Spurs' five-game series win over the Miami Heat in the Finals. He often was limping at the end of games, though he still averaged 28.6 minutes per game in that series.
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Sources: Patty Mills to miss 6 months
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QuoteFree-agent point guard Patty Mills will have shoulder surgery for a rotator-cuff injury that bothered him during the season and will likely be out until at least January, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Tuesday night.
Mills, the backup to Tony Parker as the San Antonio Spurs won their fifth NBA championship, will receive a firm diagnosis after the surgery, sources told Stein.
Mills scored 17 points in the Spurs' clinching Game 5 of the NBA Finals over the Miami Heat.
The Sydney Morning Herald of Australia earlier reported the news of Mills' surgery, which he was to undergo in coming days after scans revealed the extent of the injury.
The newspaper reported Mills has withdrawn from Australia's campaign for the Aug. 30 to Sept. 14 World Cup in Spain.
The Aussie is a free agent but sources told Stein he's expected to re-sign with the Spurs as the sides have already begun talks on a new deal.
Mills, a second-round draft pick by Portland in 2009, averaged 10.2 points in 18.9 minutes per game for the Spurs in his fourth full season, hitting a career-high 135 3-pointers.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 02, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Not a big fan of that Bradley contract. I think the 4/24 the team offered during the season was too much, let alone 4/32...
Maybe they're just really big fans on him. Might be a favorite of the coaching staff.
As a fan of the team I'd love to see him live up to the deal, maybe exceed it, but he misses a lot of time and is offensively inconsistent. Pretty good defender, though.
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Magic agree to two-year, $9 million deal with Ben Gordon
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QuoteIn a move that is sure to ruffle some feathers, the Orlando Magic have agreed to terms with guard Ben Gordon on a two-year, $9 million deal, Ken Berger of CBSSports.com reports.
Gordon, once upon a time, was the second best player on a playoff team in Chicago. Then he signed a massive offer sheet with the Pistons, and fell into the pit of horribleness there. He was eventually traded to Charlotte, and because of his attitude and conditioning, didn't get time there, either. He has clashed with the last three coaches he's played for.
So that's not a great look.
But effectively, the Magic are taking a $4.5 million flyer to try and rehab Gordon, who has the same agent as Victor Oladipo, with no second-year guarantee and for a team that will have to work to hit the salary floor anyway. There's no real downside here. It's not great value for Gordon, who's been a cancer on teams for years, but veterans get $3 million. You're paying $3 million for a veteran, and $1.5 for him to play in Orlando for a rebuilding team.
Is a guy who's clashed with coaches, especially inexperienced ones, a great fit in Orlando? No. Is it great value, especially after moving Arron Afflalo? No. But it's also a non-factor. The Magic are building to the future. This is a gamble by them, and one with almost no cost outside of a roster spot.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 02, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Not a big fan of that Bradley contract. I think the 4/24 the team offered during the season was too much, let alone 4/32...
Agreed.
Teams are overpaying players so far. It's turning into the FBL, lol.
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Sources: Pacers' offer not enough
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QuoteDespite the Indiana Pacers' heartfelt movie tribute and presentation to Lance Stephenson, the two sides are currently at an impasse over a new deal, according to sources close to the situation.
The Pacers offered a five-year, $44 million contract to Stephenson, but sources said the versatile shooting guard believes he's worth much more.
Stephenson averaged 13.8 points, 7.2 rebounds and 4.6 assists last season -- all career highs for the four-year player.
"Lance and his representatives aren't sure they're going to be able to reach an agreement with the Pacers," a source said. "It's clear they want him back and he wanted to go back, but they may not be able to come to terms."
Several clubs have reached out to Stephenson's agent, Alberto Ebanks, to register their interest, most notably the Los Angeles Lakers and Chicago Bulls, according to sources.
Michael Jordan and the Charlotte Hornets also have interest in Stephenson.
The Pacers pulled out all the stops Tuesday by hosting Stephenson and his family at a local theater and surprising him with a movie about his life.
With lucrative contracts already committed to Paul George ($15.8 million), Roy Hibbert ($14.9 million) and David West ($12 million), the Pacers feel they are offering Stephenson as much as they can while remaining financially prudent.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 02, 2014, 07:12:08 PM
Teams are overpaying players so far. It's turning into the FBL, lol.
Yep. Gortat is a good center, but not worth $12 million. I would say $9 max. Jodie Meeks doesn't deserve almost $7 million and now Gordon Hayward is rumored to get in the $15 range...definitely not worth that.
Yeah the Cavs and Suns are planning on offering Hayward a max deal. Celtics are in on the bidding as well.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 02, 2014, 07:15:33 PM
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Sources: Pacers' offer not enough
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11166650/lance-stephenson-indiana-pacers-impasse-contract (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11166650/lance-stephenson-indiana-pacers-impasse-contract)
I don't like his attitude, but I would like to see him in Charlotte. That would give us a boost we desperately need to take us to the next level.
Stephenson has had some behavior issues too so that might turn off some teams even with his level of play.
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Chris Bosh Rumors: Latest Buzz and Speculation Surrounding Free Agent Star
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QuoteUpdates from Wednesday, July 2
Chris Broussard of ESPN reported on Chris Bosh's talks with LeBron James and Dwyane Wade last week:
When the Miami Heat's "Big 3" went their separate ways after a lunch meeting last Wednesday, they went not knowing whether they had played their last game together, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
While Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh were committed to returning to the Heat, LeBron James was unsure of what he would do, the sources said.
The only certainty coming out of the meeting concerning James was that he wanted a maximum-level salary.
James did not ask or suggest that Wade and Bosh opt out of their deals or take lesser salaries to allow the Heat to add other top players, according to the sources.
Earlier, Sam Amico of Fox Sports provided details on the deal Bosh is seeking with the Heat:
Miami Heat big man Chris Bosh is seeking a contract that will pay him $90 million over five years, a source dialed in with Bosh's thinking told FOX Sports Ohio on Wednesday. Bosh is negotiating with the Heat, but no deal is done yet, the source said.
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Let the fun begin. With Chris Bosh having opted out of his contract with the Miami Heat, along with both LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, the retool process might officially be underway in Miami.
Heat president Pat Riley spoke about Bosh following the announcement that he plans to opt out of his contract in a statement, per Joseph Goodman of the Miami Herald:
Today we were notified of Chris' intentions to opt out of his contract. Chris is one of the most versatile and dynamic big men in this league, and he has been an instrumental key to our championship success over the last four seasons.
We look forward to meeting with Chris and his agent in the coming days to discuss keeping him in Miami for many years to come.
Apparently the feelings are mutual.
Though his intentions aren't set in stone and there is plenty of speculation on where he might land next season, Bosh has said all along that he intends to stay in Miami. The 6'11" center posted 16.2 points and 6.6 rebounds for Miami last year and has helped bring two championships to the city.
Bosh might have to take a huge pay cut to remain in Heat uniform, though, according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN:
Ethan J. Skolnick of Bleacher Report provided his thoughts on Bosh and Wade:
Following the report, agent Henry Thomas denied the reports (via David Aldridge of NBA.com):
Though it was expected that both Bosh and Wade might have to sacrifice loads of money to remain with LeBron James and the Heat, the numbers are somewhat staggering. But it also frees up money to bring in another big-name free agent to bolster the already elite roster.
With both Bosh and Wade expected to take dramatically lower numbers than they might receive elsewhere, Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated shared his thoughts:
Zach Lowe of Grantland also chimed in on the situation for Bosh:
While it may seem a bit absurd for Bosh to take a huge cut in salary after the job he's done with the Heat, it still comes out looking like a smart business decision. He might earn more money playing for another team, but Bosh is proving he's more focused on rings than a huge contract.
After making it to four straight NBA Finals with James and Wade, he's allowing the Heat to open up their pockets and add yet another talented player for the long run. His unselfish decision might lead to a young player who can help secure a bright future in Miami.
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Report: Spurs, Patty Mills reach terms on new three-year contract
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QuoteWhen word came down this week that Patty Mills was going to be out seven months following shoulder surgery — not returning to the court next season until the calendar flips to 2015 — his free agency value took a hit.
The likelihood that he would return to the Spurs skyrocketed.
That's exactly what has happened. Buck Harvey of the San Antonio Express News broke the story.
The deal is for around $12 million over three years
Mills told PBT during the Finals it really took about two years of being on this team until he understood how to play within it — this season he had fully blossomed in that system and become a key contributor as the backup to Tony Parker.
"Everyone knows it's a different place here than everywhere else and it definitely takes some getting used to," Mills said of the San Antonio offensive system. "The first two years (in San Antonio) where I didn't play a whole lot I still really believe I got better as a player, mentally more than anything. I'm really able to let it all go in that system now.
Mills is lightning quick and it was getting him to rein in his shoot-first instincts that was hard part (Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said Mills conditioning was vastly improved this past season, also). Now he's a part of the Spurs system that works well, and he'll be with the team at least three more years.
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Report: LeBron James has left Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh in the dark about his future with Heat
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QuoteLeBron James sacrificed nothing by opting out.
That's not necessarily the case for Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
If he wants, LeBron could re-sign for two years with a player option at the exact same salary he was set to earn in his previous contract. Or he could give himself a slight raise. Or he could sign a five-year max contract. Or he could sign a shorter max contract. Or he could accept less to give the Heat more flexibility.
Whatever LeBron wants to do, the Heat will bend over backward. If they don't, other teams will line up to do so.
That might even be the case for Bosh, too, though I'm not absolutely, totally, 100 percent certain Bosh can get a full max deal. With his health, Wade almost certainly can't. Maybe they'll get long-term security in exchange for taking lower salaries, but that's still sacrificing something.
There are a lot of moving parts to accommodating all three, but they went through this in 2010. I figured they could get on the same page again this summer. After all, they met last week to discuss their contract status.
But that meeting didn't resolve much.
Chris Broussard of ESPN:
The only certainty coming out of the meeting concerning James was that he wanted a maximum-level salary.
James did not ask or suggest that Wade and Bosh opt out of their deals or take lesser salaries to allow the Heat to add other top players, according to the sources.
Bosh and Wade are intent on returning to Miami, but neither of them knows what James will do.
Bosh and Wade were so uncertain about James's future after last week's meeting that one of them spoke about what the Heat might look like without James, according to one source.
The decisions of Bosh and Wade to opt out of the final two years and $42 million of their contracts were sparked by their desire to add better players in an effort to entice James to stay in Miami, one source said.
Bosh is looking to sign a five-year deal worth between $80 million and $90 million while Wade is thinking along the lines of $55 million-60 million over four years, sources said.
If Wade and Bosh accepted salaries on the lowest end of those ranges and fully backload their deals and LeBron gets the max, the Heat would fall $9,646,014 below the projected salary cap.
That's lower than a previous report indicated, but it's much more than the non-taxpayer mid-level exception ($5,305,00) Miami could have offered had Bosh and Wade opted in or demanded larger salaries.
On a four-year contract, a free agent could make $41,188,480 with that projected cap room – $19,968,480 more than he could with the full MLE. That's a significant difference, one large enough to keep the Heat in play for players like Kyle Lowry, Pau Gasol and Luol Deng.
But it would require convincing Wade and Bosh to accept the low end of their desired salary ranges and fully backload their deals. That's not an automatic sell, though those two seem committed to the cause.
I'm pretty surprised LeBron is leaving this burden on them. LeBron reportedly wants the max, and without question, he deserves it.
Bosh and Wade – especially the former – were in line for higher salaries, though. If LeBron wants the max, he must realize that cuts into the Heat's flexibility to assemble a quality supporting cast around him. He can't have his cake and eat it too.
Maybe Wade comes out ahead in this deal. He was due $41,819,000 over the next two years, and there's no guarantee he would have earned $13,181,000 in 2016-17 and 2017-18 had he played out his recently terminated contract and then sought a new deal. I'd been estimating Wade could draw $8 million per year in those seasons for $16 million total, but it's obviously difficult to prognosticate three and four years ahead. If Wade is sacrificing salary – and I think he is a little – it's not a huge amount.
But Bosh – whose max contract would pay $118,792,889 over five years – almost certainly comes out behind. Even if he couldn't draw the full max – which would be $88,216,633 over four years if he left Miami – he could do better than this.
However, Wade and Bosh are adults. If they want to accept less money to placate LeBron, they can. LeBron isn't forcing them to do anything.
He's just putting them in a surprisingly tough spot.
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Source: LeBron starts process of evaluating suitors
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QuoteLeBron James has begun to assess teams outside the Miami Heat that have expressed an interest in signing him in free agency, a source close to the process told FOX Sports Ohio on Wednesday.
James has not visited with any suitors, and sources said interested parties have been unable to connect with him directly. Instead, James is having Cleveland-based agent Rich Paul conduct behind-the-scenes talks based on James' preferences.
The source told FOX Sports Ohio that James is not likely to go through the meet-and-greet scenarios of 2010, when he entered free agency as a member of the Cavs. Instead, the source said when James does reach a decision, he will make it known in a manner "that is likely to be bam, this is where I'm going."
James and fellow Heat stars Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh opted out of their contracts last week. Initial reports stated Wade and Bosh did so with intent to re-sign at significantly lower salaries and enable the Heat's star nucleus to remain intact.
However, a source told FOX Sports Ohio that Bosh is seeking a deal worth up to $90 million over five years. With James reportedly demanding a maximum contract that would pay him more than $20 million next season, the Heat's plans to add significant help to the roster could be in jeopardy.
Also, while it's been reported James, Wade and Bosh opted out to give Heat president Pat Riley time to improve the team, "the reality is LeBron is watching all the teams that interest him," the source said.
Cavs officials have said two maximum contracts, or near-max contracts, are possible in the right scenario.
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Report: Kyle Lowry agrees to 4-year, $48 million contract with Raptors
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QuoteThe Toronto Raptors and Kyle Lowry have agreed to a four-year, $48 million contract, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. The deal will reportedly include an early-termination option after the third season.
Lowry enjoyed a career season in 2013-2014, leading Toronto back to the playoffs for the first time since 2008, where the Raptors lost to the Brooklyn Nets in a seven-game series. He was arguably the best point guard in the Eastern Conference, averaging 17.9 points, 7.4 assists and 4.7 rebounds per game and making 38 percent of his three-pointers in the regular season.
"Negotiating is easy for me if we want Kyle to be here and Kyle wants to be here," Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri said at his end-of-season media availability in May. "Negotiating becomes tough when either party maybe does not want the player to be here or the player does not want to be here. I think we'll be fair with Kyle and we'll figure it out."
The Miami Heat, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers were all mentioned as potential suitors for Lowry's services, but the Raptors locked him up on the second day of free agency.
At Lowry's end-of-season availability, he said that he could see himself back in Toronto. At that point he wasn't willing to commit to anything, but he said he loved the situation and the chemistry of the team.
"It's very difficult, but at the end of the day it's still a business and you have to be a businessman for the situation that you're in," Lowry said. "But I am very happy. This has been one of the best seasons I've had through and through. Best coaches, teammates, upstairs. It's been great. I am happy. Without a doubt I can say I'm happy."
With a $12-million-per-season contract offer, the only way you could see Lowry turning the Raptors down would be if he wanted to go chase a championship. Instead of latching on somewhere else, though, he's elected to build on the success he had last season. Toronto has to be relieved, as losing him would have been a massive step backward.
Like I said, sucks that it comes at 12 mil per year, but the team had great chemistry so bringing Lowry back is good news. Hopefully they can take a step forward from last year since the majority of the team is coming back. Don't know if they have any room to add anything else, though, so it might be tough.
Good for Toronto. Nice to see them hold onto a player for once.
As for the Heat, if I'm LeBron I think I leave. I know it will hurt his rep in some people's eyes (not mine), but They can't build a deep roster with Bosh looking for 18 mil and Wade getting 12 or somewhere around that. Chances are he stays and they have a thin roster after the 3 again next year, but I'd leave if I were him.
I think if he leaves and goes to Cleveland, it might be the only way he doesn't ruin his rep. Of course he probably doesn't get the money, but it might make people forget the way he left.
They need to unload Cole, go after Jameer Nelson who can still be a solid starter for another year, bring back Ray and go after a serviceable big..maybe Carlos Boozer. Of course all of those guys will have to take veteran minimums, but I think the prospect of winning should outweigh that.
Nice to see TDot keep someone...however that draft still makes me question the GM.
Darren Collison signs 3-year, $16 million deal with Sacramento Kings
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/3/5868041/darren-collison-sacramento-kings-2014-nba-free-agency (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/3/5868041/darren-collison-sacramento-kings-2014-nba-free-agency)
Hearing Paul Pierce to Clippers rumors...would be an excellent sign and trade for the right guy.
Yeah Pierce is likely going to the Clippers. Adding him will be a big step in the right direction.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 03, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
Yeah Pierce is likely going to the Clippers. Adding him will be a big step in the right direction.
The Clippers don't need another wing. They need another rotation big.
I agree with that.
Quote from: JustinP on July 03, 2014, 08:24:14 AM
They need to unload Cole, go after Jameer Nelson who can still be a solid starter for another year, bring back Ray and go after a serviceable big..maybe Carlos Boozer. Of course all of those guys will have to take veteran minimums, but I think the prospect of winning should outweigh that.
I assume you're talking about Miami, right? As of this point, James, Bosh, Wade and Haslem have all opted out, right? Unless they all come back, what's the point in those guys going to the Heat. They'd be waiting until those three sign...
Quote from: C.J. Gates on July 03, 2014, 12:44:07 PM
I assume you're talking about Miami, right? As of this point, James, Bosh, Wade and Haslem have all opted out, right? Unless they all come back, what's the point in those guys going to the Heat. They'd be waiting until those three sign...
They'll be losing Lebron or Bosh for sure since both want max contracts.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 03, 2014, 12:35:47 PM
The Clippers don't need another wing. They need another rotation big.
We've needed a decent SF since *gulp* Corey Maggette ... but that doesn't mean we don't need a rotation big. Sign and Trade seems to be the way the Pierce move would work but the Celtics don't like the pieces we are offering ... last I heard it involved Barnes ... when we should be sending them Dudley's fat ass
Piece isn't much of an upgrade over Barnes at this stage of his career. If they are going to get over that hump, they are going to have to add some muscle inside.
If Phoenix trades Dragic they are insane.
Phoenix Suns: Pacers Want Goran Dragic?
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/07/03/phoenix-suns-pacers-want-goran-dragic/ (http://hoopshabit.com/2014/07/03/phoenix-suns-pacers-want-goran-dragic/)
QuoteI know that Phoenix Suns general manager Ryan McDonough damn near committed highway robbery when he turned Luis Scola into Gerald Green, Miles Plumlee and a first round draft pick last summer, but let's pump the brakes for a second there, Larry Bird.
According to ESPN's Marc Stein, the Indiana Pacers have tried to engage the Suns in trade talks involving their starting point guard Goran Dragic:
Dragic, who is on one of the sexiest contracts in the NBA given his breakout year with the Suns last season, was named the league's Most Improved Player and made Third Team All-NBA. He was the Western Conference's biggest All-Star snub and was one of just three players in the league to average at least 20 points and 5.5 assists per game while shooting 50 percent from the floor. The other two? LeBron James and Kevin Durant.
Basically, here's the thing about Goran Dragic: What in God's green earth do the Pacers think they can offer the Phoenix Suns for at this point in time?
The two most likely options are Roy Hibbert or Lance Stephenson in a sign-and-trade. When he's locked in, Hibbert is one of the league's most unstoppable defensive forces. But after watching him mentally collapse down the final stretch of the season in Indiana, I'd hardly call his trade value "high," especially when you're talking about an All-NBA point guard who's only getting paid $7 million per year.
As for Lance Stephenson, I've covered the good, the bad and the ugly of his game already, but it goes without saying for the Suns that you don't trade your best player for a potential headache like Stephenson, who turned down a five-year, $44 million contract with the Pacers yesterday. And even if Stephenson wasn't a potential disruptor to the team's superb chemistry, Phoenix certainly shouldn't be rolling the dice on Eric Bledsoe's knees just yet either.
You can't really fault Bird and the Pacers for trying here. Dragic would represent a significant upgrade on George Hill, who is actually getting paid more than the Dragon this season. Nabbing Dragic in a trade would also make up for being embarrassed by McDonough last offseason in the Luis Scola deal. But unless the Pacers are somehow willing to part ways with Paul George, I don't see how on earth a deal could possibly go down here.
Word to the wise for the Suns: If at all possible, Goran Dragic is off limits. If you need to break up the Dragic-Bledsoe backcourt, I think it's safe to say most Suns fans would live with Bledsoe being the one that's sent away given how many teams might want to make him a max offer and the fact that he's had two meniscus tears in his right knee in three years.
After the way Phoenix foolishly and coldly traded away Dragic for freaking Aaron Brooks in 2011, he's earned his coming-home party. At some point in time, there's something to be said for loyalty to a guy who's been the Suns' best player the last two seasons and just as importantly, loves playing for this organization. That, mixed with his considerable talent, heart and ability to orchestrate Phoenix's offense, means turning down a potential deal with the Pacers is a no-brainer.
Did Corey Maggette really get a mention in this thread.......
Quote from: JustinP on July 03, 2014, 01:48:44 PM
Did Corey Maggette really get a mention in this thread.......
Yes, unfortunately he did...
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 03, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
Piece isn't much of an upgrade over Barnes at this stage of his career. If they are going to get over that hump, they are going to have to add some muscle inside.
I disagree as Pierce is a major upgrade offensively. Sure Pierce isn't going to be the new member of lob city but he brings championship experience and helps spread the floor while not decreasing our ability to play defense.
Quote from: JustinP on July 03, 2014, 01:48:44 PM
Did Corey Maggette really get a mention in this thread.......
Only proving my point at how horrid we've been at the 3 spot for years ... Maggette ... Bobby Simmons ... Aminu ...
Sources: Thabo Sefolosha to Hawks
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11173701/atlanta-hawks-reach-agreement-free-agent-thabo-sefolosha (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11173701/atlanta-hawks-reach-agreement-free-agent-thabo-sefolosha)
QuoteThe Atlanta Hawks have reached an agreement with free agent Thabo Sefolosha on a three-year, $12 million deal, sources told ESPN.com on Thursday.
Hawks were searching to add a wing player who could be a defensive specialist after trading away Lou Williams to the Toronto Raptors last week.
Sefolosha, 30, averaged 6.3 points and 3.6 rebounds in 61 starts for the Oklahoma City Thunder last season.
Quote from: PapaPancho on July 03, 2014, 02:47:34 PM
I disagree as Pierce is a major upgrade offensively. Sure Pierce isn't going to be the new member of lob city but he brings championship experience and helps spread the floor while not decreasing our ability to play defense.
You do realize Pierce doesn't play defense. And even if he wanted to, he is too damn slow to keep up with anybody.
Dirk Nowitzki agrees to 3-year deal
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/11173897/dirk-nowitzki-agrees-new-three-year-deal-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/11173897/dirk-nowitzki-agrees-new-three-year-deal-dallas-mavericks)
QuoteDirk Nowitzki and the Dallas Mavericks have agreed to terms on a new three-year contract believed to be in the $30 million range, according to sources close to the situation.
The deal, sources said, contains a player option that would allow Nowitzki to return to free agency in the summer of 2016 and preserves the rare no-trade clause he had in his last contract.
Fresh off completing a four-year, $80 million contract in which he left some $16 million on the table, Nowitzki has agreed to take a far steeper pay cut this time in hopes of leaving enough salary-cap space for the Mavericks to sign top free-agent target Carmelo Anthony or multiple other contributors this summer.
Sources say that the Mavericks intend to extend a lucrative offer sheet to Houston Rockets free agent Chandler Parsons or try to sign Cleveland Cavaliers free agent Luol Deng if Anthony, as expected, elects to re-sign with the New York Knicks.
Nowitzki's deal can't be made official until July 10, when a leaguewide moratorium on signings and trades is lifted and the officially salary cap and luxury tax figures for the 2014-15 season are announced.
But Nowitzki was always the most likely big-name free agent to get a deal done quickly after the sides discussed the possibility of an extension last month that would have prevented the 36-year-old from even reaching free agency, much like Memphis did last week with Zach Randolph.
"Cubes (Mavs owner Mark Cuban) knows I don't want to go anywhere and he doesn't want me to go anywhere," Nowitzki recently told ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM. "We're guessing that will be over pretty quick and then we can focus on making this franchise even better.
"This deal is not going to be about squeezing out the last dollar. We'll just have to wait and see what the years and the final number is, but I'm sure it will be respectable for both sides."
Pierce isn't on the Celtics anymore, Pancho. The deal would be with the Nets.
As for his defense, he can play in a team-oriented system, but he has lost a step and isn't a very good one-on-one defender anymore. He could be a nice piece as a role player, but not as a big chip on a winning team.
What would he even be on the Clips, like a 7th?
Probably 6th or 7th.
If he's willing to be a role player it's a good get for the Clips. In 2008 when he was one of the big 3 for a title team the Celtics had guys like PJ Brown and Sam Cassell as role players. They had small roles, but came through when needed. I think that's the kind of guy Pierce should be looking to be at this point. 15-20 minutes a night for a title contender.
An update on the Paul Pierce to Clippers rumors...
Billy King: Nothing brewing on Pierce
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11174393/brooklyn-nets-not-interested-paul-pierce-los-angeles-clippers-deal-gm-billy-king-says (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11174393/brooklyn-nets-not-interested-paul-pierce-los-angeles-clippers-deal-gm-billy-king-says)
QuoteBrooklyn Nets general manager Billy King confirmed that the Los Angeles Clippers reached out about a possible sign-and-trade deal for veteran forward Paul Pierce, but that the team was not interested.
"They made a call and inquired, but there's nothing there at this point that makes sense for us," King said Thursday on ESPN NewYork 98.7 FM's "The Michael Kay Show."
Sources told ESPN.com on Wednesday night that the Clippers engaged the Nets about the possibility of reuniting Pierce with his former coach, Doc Rivers, in Los Angeles.
Pierce is an unrestricted free agent, and has received interest from several teams, including the Portland Trail Blazers, Memphis Grizzlies, Chicago Bulls, Houston Rockets and Clippers, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein.
The Clippers could sign Pierce with their $5.3 mid-level exception. But the Nets hold Pierce's Bird Rights, enabling them to offer him more money than any other team.
By facilitating a sign-and-trade, Pierce could get paid more than the mid-level and Brooklyn could get something in return from Los Angeles. The Clippers would have likely included some combination of Jared Dudley, Matt Barnes and Reggie Bullock for Pierce, sources said. But it appears that nothing is happening on that front, at least at this juncture.
King said he spoke with Pierce's agent, Jeff Schwartz, on Thursday, and the two sides are in negotiations. The Nets, sources said, would like to re-sign Pierce to a short-term deal worth between $6 million and $8 million per season. Pierce made $15.3 million last season.
"I think we're in the process," King said. "We know the number we want to get to, I think they know the number they want to get to. We're just trying to get to the point where we're all comfortable and I know what we're trying to accomplish, and it's just in the negotiation process. That's all it is. We have the ability to pay him more than everybody else, but we are going to be a little bit more financially responsible at this point in time."
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Lakers meet with Carmelo Anthony
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11174172/los-angeles-lakers-give-free-agency-pitch-carmelo-anthony (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11174172/los-angeles-lakers-give-free-agency-pitch-carmelo-anthony)
QuoteEL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Free agent Carmelo Anthony met with the Los Angeles Lakers on Thursday and heard their pitch as to why he is the right man to become the next face of the franchise.
The Lakers also made it clear to Anthony they'd offer him a maximum four-year, $95 million contract if he chose to sign with them, according to sources.
Anthony arrived at the team's practice facility shortly after 3 p.m. ET, and departed just before 6 p.m.
Escorted to his car by Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak on the way out, Anthony stopped to say hello to reporters and signed autographs for Lakers fans but declined to comment on the meeting.
"You know I can't say anything right now, but I wanted to stop and say hey," Anthony said.
A person who was in the Lakers' pitch said they thought it went "really well" and added, "I don't know how big of a shot we have, but I think we have a shot."
Another Lakers source described Anthony as "extremely attentive" throughout the meeting.
Anthony was flanked by agent Leon Rose and business manager Bay Frazier as the group was greeted in the parking lot by former Lakers great James Worthy and then escorted into the building for the beginning of the meeting.
Kobe Bryant was not able to make it back from a family vacation in Europe in time for the meeting, according to sources. Bryant intends to meet with Anthony later Thursday evening, after Anthony's scheduled meeting with the New York Knicks following his session with the Lakers, sources said.
Bryant reached out to Anthony directly to explain why he wasn't able to make the meeting, after the time had been moved up, sources said. The two are close friends, and have been in touch throughout the entire process.
The Lakers' presentation was led by team president Jeanie Buss, executive vice president of player personnel (and Jeanie's brother) Jim Buss and Kupchak. It also included Lakers chief operating officer Tim Harris and executives from Time Warner Cable SportsNet, the Lakers' television network, and representatives from AEG.
Movie producer Joel Silver was also present and created a short film in homage to Anthony, followed by a conversation about the avenues that Anthony and his wife, La La Vasquez, can take into the entertainment industry, multiple sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com.
The Lakers intended to sell Anthony on their championship tradition, commitment to winning and unique platform as the glamour franchise of the NBA, with the largest profit margins available to pour back into the team.
After the Jeremy Lin kerfuffle in Houston on Wednesday, when the Rockets displayed digital images of Anthony wearing Lin's No. 7 jersey on the side of the Toyota Center even though Lin is still under contract, L.A. had a No. 7 Lakers uniform mocked up for Anthony as part of the presentation, according to a source, but did not make any grandiose gestures like the billboard campaign the Lakers did last summer to try to get Dwight Howard to stay with the team. The Lakers chose not to believing his main focus was on winning and not fame.
Xavier Henry wore No. 7 for the Lakers last season, but he is currently a free agent.
LeBron agent meets with Cavs, others
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11174623/lebron-james-agent-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-dallas-mavericks-houston-rockets-phoenix-suns (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11174623/lebron-james-agent-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-dallas-mavericks-houston-rockets-phoenix-suns)
QuoteThe agent for LeBron James has this week met with officials from multiple teams interested in courting James in free agency, according to sources close to the process.
The exact number of teams to secure face-to-face meetings with Cleveland-based Rich Paul was not immediately known, but sources told ESPN.com that the Phoenix Suns, Houston Rockets, Dallas Mavericks and James' home state Cleveland Cavaliers have all had the opportunity to make presentations to Paul in recent days.
ESPN's Chris Broussard reports that Suns owner Robert Sarver, in particular, met with Paul on Wednesday and pitched the idea of luring James from Miami to the desert by trying to sign Carmelo Anthony or Chris Bosh as well.
Sources also tell Broussard that Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert had a meeting with Paul this week.
A picture that appeared to be Mavericks owner Mark Cuban in Cleveland circulated via Twitter on Thursday, but Cuban denied to ESPN.com that he was there to see Paul.
"I was there for a 'SharkTank' commitment," Cuban said, referencing his TV show.
James has made it clear via his Twitter feed that he is spending the early days of his free agency on vacation with his family and is also scheduled to attend the World Cup final in Brazil before it ends July 13. Paul is meeting the respective team officials on his own, sources said.
The Miami Heat, meanwhile, have yet to secure a free agent to add to fortify the supporting cast around James. The Heat are somewhat hampered by the fact that their own marquee free agents -- James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade -- are not locked into deals, but sources told ESPN.com that Miami has aggressively pursued cost-effective shooters such as Anthony Morrow, Alan Anderson to come to South Beach along with Los Angeles Lakers center Pau Gasol.
The Heat are among the high-profile teams -- along Oklahoma City, San Antonio and New York -- trying to convince Gasol to sign for a low-dollar deal.
Sarver, meanwhile, has spoken openly of his plan to pursue James.
"We are in a good position," Sarver told the Arizona Republic. "We have a lot to offer, too, with the depth of our roster compared to some of the other teams. We think we have a favorable opportunity, but obviously he'll make his decision when he wants to make it. He's a smart player and a smart businessman. He'll look at the facts and make a decision."
James and Paul decided before free agency they would handle the process differently than they did in 2010 and that James removed from the front line as Paul would handle all initial discussions. Other than making it clear that James would only accept a contract for the maximum value of an estimated $20.7 million and the deal would include flexibility on length, Paul and James have been virtually silent in recent days as they watch how the free agent market unfolds.
Paul also represents restricted free agents Eric Bledsoe of Sarver's Suns and Kevin Seraphin of the Washington Wizards.
Interesting article about the teams pursuing Lebron James.
Reports: LeBron James' agent meets with 4 teams, additional talks planned
http://www.si.com/lebron-james-agent-meetings-cavaliers-suns-rockets-mavericks?xid=si_nba&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://www.si.com/lebron-james-agent-meetings-cavaliers-suns-rockets-mavericks?xid=si_nba&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
QuoteLeBron James' agent, Rich Paul, held meetings in Cleveland this week with at least four teams -- the Cavaliers, Mavericks, Rockets and Suns -- to discuss his client's future, according to ESPN.com. Further, Paul and James could meet again with three "finalists" next week, according to Yahoo.com, as the unrestricted free agent forward decides whether or not to re-sign with the Heat.
The NBA's 2014 free agency period has opened with a whimper, as much of the league waits on James' decision. Miami has been widely viewed as the favorite to land James, but the process has been in limbo while James has been on vacation this week. In the three days since free agency opened on July 1, Heat president Pat Riley has reportedly contacted a number of free agents but has yet to land a public commitment. James suggested in June, after Miami fell to San Antonio in the Finals, that the Heat needed to significantly upgrade their roster, which simply couldn't match up to the Spurs' depth. Riley, in response, urged James and fellow All-Stars Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh to return to South Beach and build on the Heat's four consecutive Finals appearances and two titles during the "Big 3" era.
NBA
LeBron James
How your team will try - and fail - to land LeBron James this offseason
by Ben Golliver Here's a quick rundown of the pros and cons of each of James' suitors. Note: all five teams listed below can offer James a max contract, although some of the teams need to make cap-clearing trades to do so.
Miami Heat
Pros: Ideal market, family doesn't need to move, four straight Finals appearances during "Big 3" era, proven front-office led by Riley and coaching staff led by Erik Spoelstra, Riley drafted James favorite Shabazz Napier, playing in the weaker Eastern Conference, staying put protects James from "mercenary" accusations.
Cons: Pay cuts for other stars are necessary to build out roster, a number of key pieces (Mike Miller, Shane Battier) have departed in recent years, Wade's knee problems, lack of a true center.
Cleveland Cavaliers
Pros: James' "hometown" team and his first NBA organization, promising young core featuring Kyrie Irving and 2014 No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins, chance for redemption after "The Decision," playing in the weaker Eastern Conference.
Cons: Not exactly the favorite destination of NBA players, might not be able to compete for a title in 2015, first-time coach David Blatt is well-regarded but lacks NBA experience, GM David Griffin recently assumed post, owner Dan Gilbert publicly blasted James after the decision, roster needs some serious after four straight lottery trips, big man Anderson Varejao has dealt with multiple injuries in recent years.
Dallas Mavericks
Pros: Big, warm-weather market, organization won 2011 title, owner Mark Cuban is committed to spending to win, coach Rick Carlisle is regarded as one of the league's best, Dirk Nowitzki agreed to take a steep discount on his new contract, the Mavericks have no major deadweight deals on their books.
Cons: Dallas was weak defensively and barely made the playoffs in 2013, just traded away starting point guard Jose Calderon, a James/Nowitzki/Monta Ellis core might not be perfectly balanced, new starting center Tyson Chandler is coming off of an injury-plagued year, Mavericks have previously struck out multiples times on A-list free agents, playing in the tougher Western Conference.
Houston Rockets
Pros: Big, warm-weather market, ownership and forward-thinking front-office are committed to winning, All-Stars Dwight Howard and James Harden are in place to form a quality "Big 3," Chandler Parsons could be re-signed as a fourth quality piece.
Cons: Rockets would need to make multiple trades to create room for max offer to James, bounced in the first round of the 2014 playoffs, James has no clear ties to Howard or Harden, playing in the tougher Western Conference.
Phoenix Suns
Pros: Warm weather market, excellent cap flexibility to pair James with another max-level star, James is known to be friends with up-and-coming guard Eric Bledsoe (a restricted free agent), organization was NBA's biggest surprise team in 2013-14 and has extra picks to help in the future, GM Ryan McDonough has excellent track record since taking job, lots of young talent already on hand.
Cons: An off-the-radar organization in recent years, coach Jeff Hornacek is well-regarded but lacks playoff experience, might not be able to compete for a title in 2015, lacking A-list big man, playing in the tougher Western Conference.
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Report: Patrick Patterson, Raptors agree to 3-year, $18 million deal
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24607820/report-patrick-patterson-raptors-agree-to-3-year-18-million-deal (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24607820/report-patrick-patterson-raptors-agree-to-3-year-18-million-deal)
QuotePatrick Patterson has agreed to a three-year, $18 million contract to stay with the Toronto Raptors, according to ESPN's Jeff Goodman. He was a restricted free agent.
Patterson was a key part of Toronto's playoff push, arriving from Sacramento in a December trade that turned around the Raptors' season. He made 41 percent of his three-pointers in Toronto, providing some much-needed floor spacing at the power forward position. In 48 games with the team, he averaged nine points and five rebounds in 23 minutes per game.
While not much of a rebounder or rim protector, Patterson is a solid, smart two-way player and a luxury to have as a backup behind Amir Johnson. Considering how well he shot the ball, it's a mild surprise he didn't get a more lucrative or longer contract. It might have helped that he wanted to come back and build on last year.
"It was great here," Patterson said at his end-of-season media availability in May. "Developed strong relationships with the staff, the organization, my teammates, embraced the city and the fans. Overall I had a great time. Out of all the stops I've been to, Houston and Sacramento, this is by far the best."
Raptors general manager Masai Ujiri has thus far done a commendable job in inking Kyle Lowry and Patterson to reasonable deals. Let's see if he can do the same with backup point guard Greivis Vasquez, who is also restricted, and add another piece or two to the core.
Report: Jazz to acquire Steve Novak from Raptors
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24607965/report-jazz-to-acquire-steve-novak-from-raptors (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24607965/report-jazz-to-acquire-steve-novak-from-raptors)
QuoteThe Toronto Raptors have agreed to trade forward Steve Novak and a future second-round pick to the Utah Jazz, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. Utah will send back point guard Diante Garrett, who has an unguaranteed contract for next year and will be waived by the Raptors.
Novak shot 43 percent from the three-point line in his one season in Toronto, but only appeared in 54 regular-season games. His role was significantly reduced after a December trade brought stretch-four Patrick Patterson, among others, to the Raptors.
The move means the Jazz will sign on for the final two years of Novak's contract. He is owed $3.45 million in 2014-2015, and $3.75 million in 2015-2016. He has the ability to help Utah's spacing tremendously, but the team will need to cover for him on defense. The future picks are now piling up for the Jazz, too.
Toronto needed to create roster spots if it wanted to add more pieces this summer, and moving that salary helps, too. The Raptors have agreed to new deals with Kyle Lowry and Patrick Patterson, and an agreement with Greivis Vasquez is reportedly imminent. While Novak is one of the best spot-up shooters on the planet, Toronto pounced at an opportunity to create flexibility.
Raptors are loading up on PG now...
Quote from: C.J. Gates on July 04, 2014, 05:21:22 PM
Raptors are loading up on PG now...
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QuoteThe Toronto Raptors have agreed to trade forward Steve Novak and a future second-round pick to the Utah Jazz, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports. Utah will send back point guard Diante Garrett, who has an unguaranteed contract for next year and will be waived by the Raptors.
Lol yeah, I missed that. I read it elsewhere but didn't feel like editing...
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Clippers reach deal to sign Spencer Hawes
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/clippers-reach-deal-to-sign-spencer-hawes-232235978.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/clippers-reach-deal-to-sign-spencer-hawes-232235978.html)
QuoteFree-agent 7-footer Spencer Hawes has reached agreement on a four-year, $23 million contract with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Hawes was determined to sign with a contender and his commitment to the Clippers on Friday becomes a tremendous coup for president and coach Doc Rivers.
After missing the playoffs in five of his seven NBA seasons, the chance to be surrounded with All-Star talents Chris Paul and Blake Griffin offers Hawes considerable opportunity to flourish with his deft inside-outside game.
The Clippers recruited Hawes hard for the full midlevel exception and worked with his agent, Greg Lawrence of Wasserman Media Group, on a deal that includes a player option for the fourth year and a 15 percent trade kicker, sources said.
After a productive season between Philadelphia and Cleveland – in which he averaged 13.2 points and eight rebounds – Hawes had become a desired commodity on the market. For the Cavaliers, Hawes shot nearly 45 percent from 3-point range.
In a league searching for size and shooting, Hawes had visited seriously with Phoenix and Portland before settling on the Clippers offer.
Really glad the Clippers got another big man. That was one thing they needed.
Chris Kaman to join Trail Blazers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11175609/chris-kaman-agrees-deal-portland-trail-blazers-according-reports (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11175609/chris-kaman-agrees-deal-portland-trail-blazers-according-reports)
QuoteFree-agent center Chris Kaman has agreed to a two-year, $9.8 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, according to multiple reports.
The Blazers had targeted finding a frontcourt player in free agency but were limited by salary-cap constraints. They first pursued Spencer Hawes, but quickly moved on to Kaman when Hawes drew interest from other teams including the Warriors, Clippers and Suns.
Kaman, 32, averaged 10.4 points and 5.9 rebounds in a career-low 18.9 minutes last season. The Lakers often utilized a smaller lineup in games, contributing to his limited minutes.
Kaman, who was an All-Star in 2010, is expected to back up starting center Robin Lopez.
The deal will become official when the league-wide moratorium on signings ends July 10.
Great depth move there from the Clips.
Report: Pacers reach agreement with Lavoy Allen
http://www.si.com/si-wire/2014/07/05/pacers-lavoy-allen (http://www.si.com/si-wire/2014/07/05/pacers-lavoy-allen)
QuoteForward Lavoy Allen has reached an agreement with the Indiana Pacers, according to ESPN's Chris Broussard. The terms of the deal have not yet been announced.
Indiana acquired Allen in a mid-season trade with the Philadelphia 76ers that sent Allen and Evan Turner to the Pacers in exchange for forward Danny Granger and a second-round pick. Allen would only appear in 14 games with Indiana. In 51 games with the Sixers, he averaged 5.2 points and 5.4 rebounds per game.
The Pacers finished first in the Eastern Conference this season, with a record of 56-26. They went on to lose in the Conference Finals to the Miami Heat.
Chris Bosh may be considering offers to leave Heat
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/5/5872557/chris-bosh-free-agent-rumors-nba-miami-heat-max-contract (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/5/5872557/chris-bosh-free-agent-rumors-nba-miami-heat-max-contract)
Quoteseemed like a foregone conclusion that Chris Bosh would accept a pay cut to stay in Miami, but that isn't so clear now that LeBron James' agent is entertaining offers elsewhere. Therefore, many in the league believe Bosh can be swept away for a maximum contract, according to CBS Sports' Ken Berger:
Multiple league sources say there will be a close-to-max market for Bosh if Anthony and James stay with their respective teams. One of those people, an executive with a rival team, said the growing belief around the league is that Bosh would prefer a four-year max deal with another team to a discounted longer deal with Miami.
It's not a surprise that teams would pursue Bosh, and indeed, the Rockets already have. But is Bosh really going to leave the comforts of Miami?
Why he would leave
Bosh is certainly worth a maximum contract, as Paul Flannery notes:
In normal times, Chris Bosh would be a coveted player in free agency with teams tripping all over themselves in a race to offer him a maximum contract. Still just 29 years old, Bosh is a nine-time All-Star with two championship rings and is coming off a season in which he established himself as the league's most versatile defensive big man.
One could even argue -- as Tom Ziller did -- that Bosh is a more complete player than Carmelo Anthony, the other big free agent teams are pursuing. Bosh's combination of shooting, intelligence and elite defense makes any team better, whether it's done from the power forward or center spot.
And with Miami's situation uncertain, Bosh should reach a point where he grows tired of waiting. There was widespread belief that James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade mutually agreed on their contracts before free agency began, but that has since been disputed. The trio instead appears to be waiting on Pat Riley to upgrade the team with whatever remaining cap space he has, but he's struck out so far on big names and seems resigned to settle for smaller ones. If that continues, it'd be well within Bosh's rights to look elsewhere.
Why he wouldn't leave
Bosh has been public about his desire to stay with Miami, even if it requires a pay cut. While the Heat appear to be in a holding pattern, they still present Bosh with the best opportunity to win. Bosh remade his game in Miami and has comfort and familiarity with Erik Spoelstra's scheme and style of play. It's still far too early to know if Miami's free agent plans have blown up in smoke.
Keep in mind, too, that the people quoted in Berger's original story include rival executives that are likely hoping to steal Bosh away too. They have a vested interest in the Heat forward considering other options.
Likelihood: 4 out of 10
As much as it makes sense for Bosh to look elsewhere, this report feels like the kind of thing we often see early in free agency that ends up being resolved. It's still just July 5, so there's plenty of time for James to hear other pitches, then ultimately decide to stay in Miami. Should that happen, the Bosh domino will seamlessly fall into place.
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Report: Mavs finalizing 3-year deal, $9 million deal with Devin Harris
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QuoteThe Dallas Mavericks are close to finalizing a three-year deal with free agent Devin Harris, according to ESPN's Marc Stein. The point guard reportedly met with Dallas owner Mark Cuban as soon as free agency began at midnight on Tuesday.
Keeping him was obviously a priority for the Mavs after trading away last year's starting point guard, Jose Calderon. Harris was a key contributor for Dallas, averaging 7.9 points and 4.5 assists in 40 games after returning from a toe injury.
Harris and the Mavs had agreed to a long-term deal last summer, but he eventually signed only a one-year contract after the injury. He emerged as an even more important part of the team in the playoffs, when Calderon's minutes dwindled due to the San Antonio Spurs exploiting him on defense. Given that Raymond Felton, acquired from the New York Knicks in the Calderon deal, is also a deficient defender, Dallas needed to get something done with Harris.
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Report: Milwaukee Bucks to make offer to Phoenix Suns' Eric Bledsoe
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QuoteArmed with the No. 2 selection in the 2014 NBA Draft, Jabari Parker, the Milwaukee Bucks are looking to bolster their roster, particularly in the backcourt.
ESPN reporter Marc Stein tweeted Saturday that Milwaukee will be pitching an offer sheet to Phoenix Suns guard Eric Bledsoe, who is a restricted free agent. Stein also said that the Bucks are pursuing RFA Greivis Vasquez of the Toronto Raptors and considering a trade for Houston Rockets point guard Jeremy Lin.
Bledsoe, 24, would make $3.7 million next season if he finishes out his current contract. The Suns would be able to match any offer that other teams might make to him this summer.
In his first season as a full-time starter, the 6-foot-1 combo guard put up 17.7 points, 5.5 assists, 4.7 rebounds and 1.6 steals per game in 43 contests. He missed a good portion of the year after tearing meniscus cartilage in his right knee and undergoing arthroscopic surgery.
Vasquez is also a restricted free agent who is scheduled to make $3.2 million in 2014-15. Despite leading the league in assists in 2012-13 with the New Orleans Pelicans, the 27-year-old Vasquez has played on four teams in his four-year career. Last year between Toronto and Sacramento, the 6-foot-6 guard posted 9.6 points and 4.1 assists in 22.5 minutes per contest, a significant drop from his numbers a season prior.
After earning around $5 million in each of his first two seasons with the Rockets, the 25-year-old Lin is scheduled to make nearly $15 million in 2014-15, the final year of his contract. Houston seems committed to Patrick Beverley at point guard going forward, and thus Lin's price has made him a popular trade candidate this summer.
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Reports: Lakers have a real shot at Carmelo Anthony
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QuoteThe Los Angeles Lakers are reportedly legitimate suitors for free agent forward Carmelo Anthony, who met with them on Thursday.
Numerous prior reports indicated that Anthony was leaning toward staying with the Knicks, but it appears that Anthony is at least intrigued with the Lakers. This, of course, follows a report that New York was only concerned about the Chicago Bulls.
Let's think about Anthony and the Lakers for a second. He's close with Kobe Bryant, and Los Angeles is a major market. The team will have significant financial flexibility moving forward, aside from Bryant's mammoth contract, and he'd have the opportunity to bring one of the league's marquee franchises back to relevance. You know, like what he signed on for with the Knicks.
There are also obvious reasons why the Lakers wouldn't make a ton of sense, chiefly the fact that New York can offer more money, the roster is a long way from contention and the whole Western Conference thing.
It's not the best basketball move, nor the best financial move, but that doesn't mean Los Angeles shouldn't be taken seriously. The Lakers always seem to land superstars and rebound from mediocrity, so we shouldn't put anything past them. One good thing: according to the New York Post's Fred Kerber, his decision could come in the next 24 hours.
Sources: Boris Diaw gets $22.5 million deal to re-sign with Spurs
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QuoteFree-agent forward Boris Diaw has reached agreement on a three-year, $22.5 million contract to return to the defending NBA champion San Antonio Spurs, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Diaw, 32, transformed himself into an indispensable part of the Spurs' championship fiber and his return was considered a vital part of management's plan to compete for a sixth franchise title next season.
The third year of Diaw's deal is partially guaranteed, sources said. Diaw is guaranteed $18.5 million over the first two years of the deal, sources said.
Spurs general manager R.C. Buford and Diaw's agent Doug Neustadt completed the deal Sunday, sources said.
With Diaw's return set, the Spurs will continue their pursuit of free agent Pau Gasol with an offer of their midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The deal includes protections for the Spurs' salary-cap space should the organization change direction in the next few years and move toward a rebuild after the Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili era.
Diaw had a tremendous NBA Finals for the Spurs, averaging 6.2 points, 8.6 rebounds and 5.8 assists in the five-game series victory over the Miami Heat.
In his 11 NBA seasons with Atlanta, Phoenix, Charlotte and San Antonio, Diaw has averaged 9.1 points, 4.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists.
Jordan Farmar to Clippers
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QuoteAfter returning to the Los Angeles Lakers a season ago and yet again proving himself as one of the NBA's most capable backup point guards, Jordan Farmar has reportdely reached an 2-year deal with the Los Angeles Clippers.
Brad Turner of the LA Times broke the news on the 27-year-old UCLA product:
Farmar struggled to stay healthy for the second year in a row last season and appeared in just 41 games with five starts. He didn't crack the starting lineup in Mike D'Antoni's system over Kendall Marshall, but did much to allow the Lakers to forget about one Steve Nash thanks to his averages of 10.1 points, 2.5 rebounds and 4.9 assists.
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A member of the Lakers for five out of his seven seasons in the NBA—a brief two-year stint with the Nets in a search for a bigger role proved a mixed bag—it should come as no surprise Farmar made his wishes to remain in the Los Angeles area well known before free agency, as captured by Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News:
"I want to be a Laker," Farmar said. "I like playing for Mike. Whether it's Phil Jackson, Mike D'Antoni or whoever else coaches this team, that won't deter me from wanting to be a Laker."
The two-time NBA champion also flashed his loyalty to the Lakers after the worst season in franchise history, via the team's Twitter account:
Farmar is quite the strong addition at this stage in his career. He was humbled after sitting behind Derek Fisher, only to go to the Nets and watch the team trade for Deron Williams. He then returned to see Steve Blake shipped away and Nash hurt, but the playing time go to Marshall.
As a result, he has to have a strong grip on his role as a veteran presence who can run the offense and score in bunches when necessary.
While an injury risk in recent years, Farmar's price tag and contributions in a rotational capacity are nearly unmatched at the point guard position in today's landscape, where strong backup points are a must for title contention. His being on board presents a lineup flexibility now and into the future as long as he can stay on the court and be productive.
LeBron James, Pat Riley to meet
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QuoteFree agent LeBron James is planning a face-to-face meeting with Miami Heat president Pat Riley in the next few days, sources told ESPN.com.
James has been methodical in his approach since opting out of his contract two weeks ago. He has a plan in place, which included a family vacation and time to watch how the free agent market unfolds.
Rich Paul, James' agent, met in person and over the phone with a handful of teams last week including the Cleveland Cavaliers, Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets.
James is planning to meet with several teams face-to-face this week. He is scheduled to be in Las Vegas for a Nike-sponsored camp this week as well.
James' representatives have made it clear they are looking for a maximum-level contract, which would start at approximately $20.7 million.
USA Today earlier reported James planned meeting with Riley.
Rockets intensify Chris Bosh pursuit
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QuoteThe Houston Rockets have ramped up their pursuit of Chris Bosh and are, in the words of one source, "heavily engaged" in trying to convince the All-Star power forward to leave the Miami Heat in free agency.
Sources close to the process told ESPN.com on Sunday that the Rockets -- though they haven't formally been told they are no longer in the running for top free-agent target Carmelo Anthony -- have intensified their pursuit of Bosh over the weekend in the hope that LeBron James will seriously consider leaving the Heat.
Bosh is resolved to wait on James to make a decision before he makes a decision on any other offers, as his preference remains to return to Miami with James, according to a source. However, the longer the process has gone on, the more Bosh has felt compelled to explore "Plan Bs," the source said.
Miami has remained a favorite to re-sign Bosh, even if it required him to take a pay cut from last season's $19 million salary.
Yet, as ESPN.com first reported Thursday, Houston has been plotting to shift its focus to trying to swipe Bosh from the Heat and convince the Texas native to return to his home state as soon as the Rockets felt like Anthony was out of reach.
Sources say Bosh remains willing to take slightly less than his value on the open market to return to the Heat if James and Dwyane Wade are also coming back and if Heat president Pat Riley can upgrade the current roster. But nearly a week into free agency -- with James' agent Rich Paul having opened negotiations with a handful of rival teams and Riley having secured no free-agent commitments -- sources say Bosh has felt compelled to consider other options himself.
Sources say Bosh would expect a four-year maximum offer of $96 million to leave Miami for Houston or any other suitor.
ESPN's Chris Broussard reported Wednesday that Bosh was seeking a five-year deal worth between $80 to $90 million to re-sign with Miami, while Wade is thinking along the lines of $55-60 million over four years.
The widespread assumption around the league, when free agency commenced Tuesday at 12:01 a.m. ET, was that James, Wade and Bosh had all but agreed to return to the Heat after hashing out new annual salaries among themselves. But sources say the Rockets have been aggressive in testing Bosh's resolve, fearing that Anthony will ultimately elect to return to the New York Knicks or sign with the Los Angeles Lakers.
Houston needs a big forward with 3-point range such as Bosh in its search for the ideal frontcourt sidekick to All-Star center Dwight Howard. Sources say Bosh and Mavs star Dirk Nowitzki likely would have been at the top of the Rockets' list of free-agent targets had Houston believed it had a shot at either player.
Nowitzki committed Thursday to staying for three more seasons with the only team he has ever known, rebuffing Houston's attempts to recruit him, but the sudden uncertainty in Miami appears to have given the Rockets an unexpected shot to try to tempt Bosh.
The Rockets have maintained for weeks that they could move the contracts of Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin to create enough salary-cap space to sign a high-priced free agent if they could get a commitment from one of the top names.
Houston has already struck a trade with New Orleans to dispatch Asik to the Pelicans. And ESPN.com reported Saturday that the Philadelphia 76ers are prepared to trade for Lin and the $15 million he's owed next season as long as the Rockets attach suitably attractive assets -- such as a future first-round draft pick or more -- to Lin's contract.
Sources: Chris Bosh considers offer
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QuoteChris Bosh, after talking with LeBron James this past weekend, is seriously considering the Houston Rockets' maximum contract offer of four years, $96 million, according to sources close to the situation.
Bosh, since opting out of the final two years of his deal -- worth $42 million -- with the Miami Heat, had planned to see what James decided before making his choice.
But a conversation with James about his future in Miami this past weekend created enough doubt for Bosh to begin considering his other options, including Houston's offer, a source said. The source said Bosh did not know whether or not James was staying in Miami.
Another factor in Bosh's decision to look at Houston has been the tenor of his negotiations with Miami. Bosh is willing to take an annual pay cut by accepting a five-year deal worth $80 million-$90 million from Miami.
But sources say the Heat have been trying to get Bosh to accept a lesser deal, obviously so they can have more money to spend in free agency.
The Heat's "low-balling" -- plus his conversation with James -- has led Bosh to take a serious look at Houston's offer.
The Rockets made the same max offer to Carmelo Anthony, but they have come to believe he will not accept it.
Houston will have to trade Jeremy Lin to create the cap space to offer the
Sources: Heat targeting Josh McRoberts to add to supporting cast
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--heat-targeting-josh-mcroberts-to-add-to-supporting-cast-174754513.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--heat-targeting-josh-mcroberts-to-add-to-supporting-cast-174754513.html)
QuoteAfter meeting with Miami executives over the weekend, Charlotte Hornets free-agent forward Josh McRoberts has emerged as a top target for the Heat to sign at the midlevel exception, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
The Hornets are determined to keep him, too, and have made a comparable offer in the past day, league sources told Yahoo Sports. McRoberts had become a versatile and trusted player under Charlotte coach Steve Clifford, and the team is pushing hard to re-sign him.
McRoberts could be eligible for a four-year, $23 million contract in the midlevel range.
McRoberts had one of his most efficient and balanced seasons in his seven-year NBA career, averaging 8.5 points, 4.8 rebounds and 4.3 assists for the Hornets. He played a significant part in helping return Charlotte to the Eastern Conference playoffs.
Miami has made bids for higher-profile free agents, including Trevor Ariza, Luol Deng and Pau Gasol, but financial constraints make those players long shots to sign with the Heat.
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ESPN has learned that McRoberts will receive Heat's full midlevel for the next four years ($23 million) with a player option after Year 3
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Sources: Heat land Josh McRoberts
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QuoteCharlotte Hornets free agent Josh McRoberts has committed to sign a free-agent deal with the Miami Heat, sources close to the process told ESPN.com on Monday.
Sources said McRoberts will sign a four-year deal valued at an estimated $23 million with a player option after the third season.
The versatile power forward, who can't officially sign with Miami until Thursday, had also been weighing an offer from the Hornets, sources said.
The Heat have been talking to a number of free agents in hopes of securing a verbal commitment or two to impress LeBron James and encourage him to stay in Miami in the face of the serious interest James is drawing from the likes of the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Phoenix Suns.
McRoberts' passing and shooting ability would make him an ideal complement to James. Charlotte often runs its offense through McRoberts, who is regarded as one of the game's best passing big men.
Sources say that Pau Gasol, Luol Deng, Marvin Williams and Anthony Morrow are among the other free agents that Riley and coach Erik Spoelstra have chased.
The two certainly aren't strangers: McRoberts was fined $20,000 during the 2014 playoffs for making excessive contact with his foul on James during Game 2 of their first-round series.
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Report: Heat, Danny Granger agree to two-year deal
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QuoteThe Heat are not getting vintage 2009, All-Star Danny Granger. Rather, the model they have has been through a few knee operations and is not the same guy. Watch him in person and you see the explosiveness is gone. He was uninspiring with the Pacers last season, looked better but not great with the Clippers, but in the playoffs he shot 27.5 percent overall and 22.7 percent from three. His minutes got slashed.
At best is a decent rotation player off the bench.
But the Heat have landed him. A two-year deal for the bi-annual exception has been agreed to, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
Pat Riley has been working to upgrade the Heat roster and he now has added Josh McRoberts and Danny Granger. Those are two players the Heat could have used last season, they are improvements (McRoberts in particular) and with Pat Riley not sure what he can really spend and having to act like his team is capped out. Which means exception pieces only, and in that situation Riley did pretty well (although Anthony Morrow for the bi-annual would be much better).
But is that really enough to keep LeBron James in house? Does it show him the team is committed to spend and to improve the roster enough to win?
Those are the only questions that matter.
And the only guy who can answer them has yet to speak to Pat Riley or anyone else.
McRoberts and Granger.... THAT will get LeBron to stay....
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 07, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
McRoberts and Granger.... THAT will get LeBron to stay....
LOL here's a picture of his reaction to finding out about these signings.
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Quote from: GM Franchise on July 07, 2014, 04:43:21 PM
LOL here's a picture of his reaction to finding out about these signings.
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Compared to Beasley, Oden, and the rest of that cast....McBob and Granger are actually better.
But I don't think it's enough.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 07, 2014, 05:27:14 PM
But I don't think it's enough.
It's between Cleveland and Miami simply because he's aware of his legacy and knows a third team hurts him more than it helps him.
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Report: Channing Frye reaches four-year, $32 million deal with Orlando
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QuoteChanning Frye decided not to wait around and see if better offers would come after Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James make their decisions — he is taking the money and heading to Disney World.
Or, close to it in Orlando.
The two sides have reached a deal, reports Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
To me that price, more than the mid-level exception, is steep for Frye. The Magic have just drafted Aaron Gordon and Andrew Nicholson at the four, both young talents who now will split up minutes with Frey.
Frey is a classic stretch four — more than half of his shots last season were three pointers and he knocked down 37 percent of them (which is actually below his career average). Teams do better when he is on the court. There are things to like — when elfrid Payton or Victor Oladipo drives there will be someone to kick out to who can knock it down. Combine that with Nikola Vucevic up front and that's an interesting starting five in Orlando. Not sure they make the playoffs (even in the East) but it's interesting.
$32m for Frye? Good grief.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 07, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
The NBA has become the FBL.
One of the better perimeter 4s that don't hurt you on defense, not entirely false. I think 8 million is high, but I thought he would make more than he is worth given the surge of perimeter fours and his rep that is seen on the floor. Most teams respect him enough to cover him, spacing the floor for the slashers they have.
I think they fact they have such a young team that many of their players are locked up for 3-4 years down the road, they can afford to have him on the team and then if needed, he's not TOO overpriced that he'd be hard to move. I think its a good move for Orlando, won't move the needle much for them, but he'll provide productive minutes and help the development of their young guys.
He doesn't rebound and plays medicare defense- he's actually pretty poor from inside the three-point line. As a stretch four, he's useful, but really doesn't offer you anything else except for pretty good 3pt shooting.
Considering Patterson, a similar player, and 6 years younger, just got $18m over 3 years...the Magic woefully overpaid.
If you're 6'10" or taller you really have to SUCK at basketball to make less than 7 or 8 million as a free agent in the NBA these days...
Frye's only been a mediocre contributor as far as I could really tell.
Magic totally overpaid, imo.
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LeBron to meet with Pat Riley
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QuoteLeBron James and Pat Riley will have their long-awaited face-to-face meeting Wednesday in Las Vegas, according to league sources.
James is in Las Vegas for his annual basketball camp, the LeBron James Skills Academy, and Riley has flown in for the meeting.
Riley, who sold James on leaving Cleveland to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami four years ago, will try to keep James from leaving the Heat this summer.
In an effort to beef up a Heat roster that James said needs "to improve at every position," Riley reached agreements to sign center/forward Josh McRoberts and forward Danny Granger on Monday.
The meeting with Riley on Wednesday is believed to be the first meeting James has participated in since opting out of the final two years and $42 million of his Heat contract.
James's agent, Rich Paul, met with or spoke with officials from the Mavericks, Rockets, Suns, Cavaliers and Lakers last week, but James was not present.
The four-time MVP told The Associated Press he had "no complaints" when asked how free agency was going on Tuesday.
A person close to the situation told The Associated Press that James and Wade worked out together in Las Vegas on Tuesday morning. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one has publicly released James' itinerary.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 07, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
He doesn't rebound and plays medicare defense- he's actually pretty poor from inside the three-point line. As a stretch four, he's useful, but really doesn't offer you anything else except for pretty good 3pt shooting.
Considering Patterson, a similar player, and 6 years younger, just got $18m over 3 years...the Magic woefully overpaid.
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Report: Gordon Hayward agrees to offer sheet with Hornets
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QuoteGordon Hayward's visit with the Hornets must have gone well.
Despite the Jazz threatening to match any offer he receives, Hayward has convinced Charlotte to navigate the treacherous road of restricted free agency.
I bet this is a max contract (projected to be $14,756,881 starting and $63,011,880 over four years). Otherwise, Hayward would probably hold out for one of his many other suitors – including the Celtics, Cavaliers and Suns. As soon as he signs an offer sheet, he's locked into those contract terms – whether it's with the team signing him or the Jazz should they match.
And I bet Utah matches within its three-day limit. Hayward is too valuable to let walk with no return. Besides, where would the Jazz spend the money they'd save, anyway? They don't need to hoard cap space.
Hayward can't officially sign until Thursday, and I figure Charlotte and Utah will discuss a sign-and-trade beforehand. By committing to sign Hayward, the Hornets give themselves a little leverage. Maybe the Jazz would find a sign-and-trade preferable to paying Hayward so much money. There's a little time to sort all that out, but once Hayward officially signs an offer sheet, a sign-and-trade is no longer possible.
At least everything is in motion now. Hayward will almost certainly play for the Hornets or Jazz next season.
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Report: LeBron James considering only Heat and Cavaliers
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QuoteLeBron James' agent has met with the Lakers, Cavaliers, Rockets, Suns and Mavericks. At least one member of the 76ers is trying to lure LeBron, too.
Of course, LeBron's current team, the Heat, is also in the mix.
But LeBron might have already thinned the field.
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, appearing on Fox Sports Live:
By every source I have, there are just two considerations at this point — and that's Cleveland and staying in Miami.
This shouldn't surprise anyone.
The Heat opened free agency as heavy favorites to retain LeBron. He's repeatedly expressed satisfaction in what Miami has accomplished while he's played there.
Since, the door has opened, and the Cavaliers get mentioned more and more.
At this point, I'd be pretty surprised if he signs anywhere but Miami or Cleveland. If Wojnarowski actually said that, I'd be shocked if LeBron signs anywhere but Miami or Cleveland.
I think the Hayward deal is a little rich but I understand the overpayment in hopes of the Jazz not matching. I hope they dont match because I think he would be a great fit for us.
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Cavs' Jarrett Jack headed to Nets
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QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers will trade Jarrett Jack to the Brooklyn Nets on Thursday as part of a three-team deal with Boston to create more salary-cap space for the pursuit of LeBron James, according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Nets have agreed to take on the contracts of Jack and youngster Sergey Karasev from the Cavaliers in a swap that also will see the Celtics acquire Brooklyn's Marcus Thornton, Cleveland's Tyler Zeller and a protected 2016 first-round pick from the Cavaliers.
Cleveland is expected to take back a young prospect or two that Brooklyn has already drafted just to complete the transaction but no one who will be on its roster next season. The moves will give the Cavaliers significant financial flexibility by shedding the contracts of Jack, Zeller and Karasev.
Meanwhile, ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Cavaliers, in addition to James, are also now trying to strike a deal with free agent guard Ray Allen and/or forward Mike Miller as a means of enticing James even more about a return to Cleveland.
After briefly considering retirement following the Heat's loss to the Spurs in the NBA Finals, Allen is leaning toward returning for a 19th season, sources said.
According to ESPN's Tom Penn, the trade of Jack sheds $9.5 million in salary (Jack, $6.3 million; Zeller, $1.7 million; Karasev, $1.5 million), giving the Cavaliers $21.7 million in cap space.
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The Cavs' trade of Jarrett Jack, left, will create more salary-cap space for their pursuit of LeBron James, according to sources.
The Nets first had talks with the Cavaliers about Jack before the trading deadline last season but ended up dealing Jason Terry and Reggie Evans to Sacramento for Thornton.
The two teams revived trade talks shortly after the end of the season with the idea that Jack could be a replacement for Shaun Livingston, who agreed to sign with Golden State in free agency. A league source said the Nets also had a strong interest in Karasev, whom they were high on during the 2013 draft.
Karasev was selected 19th overall, and the Nets took Mason Plumlee at 22nd overall.
Karasev gives the Nets another young forward to develop alongside Bojan Bogdanovic, who has agreed to a three-year deal with the Nets for their mini mid-level exception, according to a source.
The trade can't be officially consummated until Thursday, when a league-wide moratorium on signings and trades is lifted at 12:01 a.m.
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Cavs pursue Ray Allen, Mike Miller
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QuoteAfter shedding nearly $22 million in cap space in a proposed three-team trade, the Cleveland Cavaliers are also pursuing free agent shooting guard Ray Allen and forward Mike Miller, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.
The cap-clearing maneuvers would primarily allow the Cavs to make a max offer to LeBron James, but Allen and/or Miller also could join Cleveland under team-friendly deals.
Both Allen and Miller are good friends with LeBron, having played with him for two and three seasons, respectively, with the Miami Heat.
Allen made $3.6 million last year. He'd likely have to take a pay cut to join the Cavaliers, should they land James and pay him the max salary, which is $20.7 million for next season. If the Cavs want to pay Allen and/or Miller more, they'd have to clear additional cap space.
Allen has spent the past two seasons as James' teammate with the Heat. He was said to be considering retirement following Miami's loss in the NBA Finals, but sources said he has since changed his mind and is leaning toward returning for a 19th season in the league.
Allen, who will turn 39 on July 20, played 73 games in the regular season and all 20 postseason games for the Heat. He averaged 9.3 points per game on 41 percent shooting in the playoffs.
After the Heat lost in Game 5 of the Finals, Allen said he felt good about his career and had a clear mind as he faced his summer options.
LeBron James playing under Cavs owner Dan Gilbert would say a lot about NBA's great owner-player divide. Story
"One thing is for certain, to [make a decision] on my terms is the most important thing," Allen said. "Whether that is me retiring, staying here or going somewhere else, it will be on my terms. I've made it to this point, and I felt great that I have the choice to make it for myself."
Miller played with James in Miami from the 2010-11 season to 2012-13. He was waived last July as part of a financial move that saved the Heat as much as $17 million on future luxury-tax payments.
Miller ultimately signed with the Memphis Grizzlies, averaging 7.1 points and 1.3 3-pointers per game.
James previously has spoken of his close relationship with Miller. In May, he said not having Miller on this past year's team could be felt significantly.
"Yeah, he was just that stable guy," James told bleacherreport.com. "I mean, Mike, everything that he went through, both injuries and being in and out of the lineups, and not one day did he ever come to work with an 'I don't want to be here' attitude. Like never. And we all respected that. And for a guy like that who's done so much in his career, to come in with that mindset every day, we all saw that."
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Sources: Melo waiting on LeBron
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11194988/carmelo-anthony-waiting-lebron-james-decision-choosing-team (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11194988/carmelo-anthony-waiting-lebron-james-decision-choosing-team)
QuoteA number of rival teams increasingly believe that New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony plans to hold off on announcing any decision about his future until LeBron James reveals where he'll be playing next season, according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com that Anthony, whose decision was widely expected before a resolution to James' situation when free agency began, has kept the Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and other suitors waiting at least in part to see where James goes and whether there would be any option to join his close friend.
Sources say that the Knicks thought they'd know by Monday if Anthony was prepared to commit to new team president Phil Jackson for the long term or sign with the Lakers instead. The Knicks can offer Anthony a five-year maximum deal valued at $129 million, with the Lakers' max offer topping out at $96 million over four years.
The Lakers' pitch to Anthony included a conversation with Hall of Famer Magic Johnson, according to ESPN.
Los Angeles is determined to wait on James and Anthony before moving on in its pursuit of other free agents. James and Anthony are the Lakers' main targets, but with each passing day the franchise gets antsy about potentially missing on other free agent targets such as Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza.
Anthony has gone as silent as James with free agency now more than a week old, sparking the belief that he's waiting to see if there is a viable opportunity for the two stars to team up.
"He wants to see what LeBron does," one source with knowledge of Anthony's thinking told ESPN. "But he can't wait forever."
The Knicks have tried to maintain their long-held confidence that Anthony will stay in New York, sources said, but the delay has definitely frayed some nerves, with no indication as of Wednesday morning when either Anthony or James plan to make their decisions known.
Anthony held meetings last week with Chicago, Houston, Dallas and the Lakers before granting last word to the Knicks on his interview tour. But there's been a strong belief over the past few days that the 30-year-old is likely to choose between New York and Los Angeles, both cities that his family is very comfortable in.
Bosh is seriously considering the Houston Rockets' maximum contract offer of four years, $88 million, ESPN's Chris Broussard reported earlier this week.
If Bosh were to decide to leave the Heat for Houston, Miami could try to sign Anthony to replace him, though the salary-cap gymnastics involved to make room for Anthony in addition to the free agents they've already committed to -- Josh McRoberts and Danny Granger -- would not be easy for the Heat.
Since opting out of the final two years of his deal (worth $42 million) with the Heat, Bosh has also been waiting to see what James decides before making his choice, having stated numerous times this season that he wants to stay with the Heat alongside the game's best player.
A conversation with James about his future in Miami this past weekend created enough doubt for Bosh to begin considering his other options, including Houston's offer, with James believed to be strongly considering a return to his home-state Cleveland Cavaliers, according to Broussard.
ESPN reported during the NBA Finals that the Heat have internally discussed the possibility of trying to acquire Anthony to form a "Big Four" in Miami, but they've since conceded that the pay cuts such a move would require make it impossible. Even if Bosh leaves the Heat, Anthony would still have to take a significant pay cut to join forces with James.
Sources say other teams, such as the Lakers, Cleveland and Phoenix, have explored the feasibility of creating sufficient salary-cap space to try to sign James and Anthony together, but none have yet been successful.
The Bulls are believed to be the only other team at this stage that could tempt Anthony beyond the Knicks or Lakers, but Chicago would need to strike a sign-and-trade deal with New York to be able to present him with an annual salary comparable to the Knicks' and Lakers' offers.
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Report: LeBron reached out to veteran free agents for if he bolts Miami
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24612775/report-lebron-reached-out-to-veteran-free-agents-for-if-he-bolts-miami (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24612775/report-lebron-reached-out-to-veteran-free-agents-for-if-he-bolts-miami)
QuoteWith the countdown to LeBron James' latest decision knocking out our door, the posturing for James' services is getting very serious. The Cleveland Cavaliers just shedded heaps of committed salary to open up a max contract slot on their books and are reportedly pursuing Ray Allen as a role player to entice LeBron. And now rumors about LeBron possibly leaving the Miami Heat are getting even more serious.
According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, James reportedly reached out to two veteran free agents recently about signing with his team if he leaves the Heat this summer. One of those veterans is reportedly Mike Miller, who played with LeBron from 2010 to 2013.
If this source is correct, James is looking to stack the support staff in his favor if he leaves Miami, which makes sense considering his support staff in the NBA Finals helped lead to an embarrassing loss to the Spurs. Miller is a favorite of LeBron, as is the Cavaliers' target other free agency target of Allen. Both were important targets in the Heat's last championship with James.
Miller was amnestied from the Heat's roster last summer to help avoid the deeper luxury tax penalties and the roster restrictions that could have followed. He played with the Memphis Grizzlies in 2013-14.
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Report: Carmelo Anthony to re-sign with Knicks, announcement Thursday
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QuoteCarmelo Anthony has decided to stay with the New York Knicks, according to Frank Isola of the New York Daily News.
A person close to Anthony told The News on Wednesday that barring a last minute change of heart Anthony will re-sign with the Knicks after "agonizing over this" for the past week.
"He will have something for everybody on Thursday," said the friend who was with Anthony before Anthony's scheduled workout with Kevin Durant and Kevin Love in Los Angeles on Wednesday. "He is really torn because this is the biggest decision of his career. But he wants to get it done in New York. He told me he believes in Phil."
The star free agent forward is expected to sign a five-year, $129 million maximum contract. He had been reportedly considering the Los Angeles Lakers and Chicago Bulls, but now, according to the Daily News, he is sure he wants to stay where he and his family are comfortable.
Anthony's friend says that Anthony prolonging his decision is not a reflection of him having second thoughts about the Knicks. Instead, it was Anthony wanting to be sure that he could put himself in position to win a championship.
This is where things get tricky: New York went 37-45 last season, failing to qualify for the playoffs in a weak Eastern Conference. Knicks president Phil Jackson wants to add other stars to the team, but that likely will not happen this offseason. New York will reportedly pursue Pau Gasol, but that move wouldn't exactly make the team into a contender. Instead of going to a ready-made team, Anthony is betting that Jackson can, in time, surround him with the pieces necessary to truly compete.
Gregg Popovich agrees to extension
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QuoteGregg Popovich has agreed to a multiyear contract extension to continue coaching the reigning NBA champion San Antonio Spurs.
The Spurs announced the extension Wednesday but did not disclose terms.
Popovich, 65, has coached San Antonio to five NBA titles since becoming the team's coach in 1996-97.
The Spurs won their first championship since 2007 last month when they defeated the Miami Heat in five games in the NBA Finals.
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Agent: Carmelo still hasn't decided
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QuoteCarmelo Anthony remained a free agent Wednesday night, the day before players can start signing contracts with NBA teams.
Anthony's agent, Leon Rose, told ESPN that his client "hasn't made a decision yet" as of Wednesday afternoon. "No decision yet," another source said. "Still up in air."
Newsday reported that New York Knicks coach Derek Fisher hadn't been told that Anthony had decided to re-sign with the team, despite a report saying he had.
Sources told ESPN on Wednesday that a number of rival teams increasingly believe that Anthony was holding off on announcing any decision about his future until LeBron James revealed where he'll be playing next season.
Sources said that Anthony -- whose decision was widely expected before a resolution to James' situation when free agency began -- has kept the Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and other suitors waiting as he waits for James.
Sources said earlier this week that the Knicks thought they'd know by Monday if Anthony was prepared to commit to new team president Phil Jackson for the long term or sign with the Lakers instead. The Knicks can offer Anthony a five-year maximum deal valued at $129 million, with the Lakers' max offer topping out at $96 million over four years.
Anthony has gone as silent as James with free agency now more than a week old, sparking the belief that he's waiting to see if there is a viable opportunity for the two stars to team up.
"He wants to see what LeBron does," one source with knowledge of Anthony's thinking told ESPN. "But he can't wait forever."
The Knicks have tried to maintain their long-held confidence that Anthony will stay in New York. Anthony held meetings last week with Chicago, Houston, Dallas and the Lakers before granting last word to the Knicks on his interview tour.
Rockets could match offer to Parsons
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QuoteThe Dallas Mavericks and restricted free agent Chandler Parsons have agreed on a three-year deal worth in excess of $45 million, according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com that Parsons will sign the offer sheet Thursday, after which the Houston Rockets will have three days to match the offer or lose Parsons.
It remains to be seen whether Houston will match the offer to Parsons while the Rockets are trying to convince Chris Bosh to leave Miami and sign with the Heat.
Sources say Parsons' deal is likely to possess a player option after the second season -- which could make Parsons a free agent in the summer of 2016 alongside star Rockets center Dwight Howard -- and a hefty trade kicker.
The Mavericks have targeted Parsons to join Dirk Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler in a completely revamped frontcourt.
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Sources: No decision from LeBron yet
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QuoteLeBron James met with Miami Heat officials for more than an hour Wednesday afternoon in Las Vegas but emerged without a decision about his future, sources told ESPN.com.
James didn't plan to announce a free-agent decision Wednesday night and had not met with his other primary option, the Cleveland Cavaliers, sources said.
If James does choose to leave the Heat, free agent Chris Bosh will sign with the Houston Rockets, sources said. James not rushing to make a choice could put a time squeeze on Bosh. Though he hopes to remain with the Heat along with James, sources said, Bosh has secured a backup offer for four years and $88 million from the Rockets.
The Rockets' position, however, got more complicated on Wednesday when their restricted free agent Chandler Parsons agreed to a three-year offer from the Mavericks for more than $45 million, sources said. Once Parsons signs the offer sheet, which could be as early as Thursday, the Rockets will only have three days to match.
If the Rockets match, they will lose the requisite cap space needed to sign Bosh. They can match the offer and still afford Bosh, but only if they sign Bosh first. To make room for Bosh, the Rockets will need to execute at least two trades, likely involving Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin, to clear cap space.
The Heat were represented at the meeting by president Pat Riley and general manager Andy Elisburg. James was joined by his agent, Rich Paul. This was the first known face-to-face meeting James has held since officially becoming a free agent on July 1.
James spent the morning and the evening working out and speaking to high school and college stars at his LeBron James Skills Academy basketball camp.
The Heat planned to talk to James about their latest free-agent commitments, forwards Josh McRoberts and Danny Granger, in addition to going over roster possibilities with him. Currently, the Heat have only four players expected to be under guaranteed contract for next season on their roster.
I think if the question comes down to if you're Lebron do you want to play with Wiggins/Love/Irving or Napier/Bosh/Wade its pretty clear what the RIGHT choice is.
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Donald Sterling: 'I will never ever sell' the Clippers
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QuoteLOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling didn't lose any of his combativeness overnight as he took the stand Wednesday for a second day of questioning in the probate trial vs. estranged wife Shelly.
An outcome of this trial could help pave the way for Shelly to go ahead with her sale of the Clippers for $2 billion to former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.
Donald was dismissive of Shelly in his answers to questions by his longtime attorney, Max Blecher. And as her testimony ended the day's court session, Shelly walked past her husband sitting in the front spectator row,and he said to her: "Stay away from me, you pig."
On the stand, Donald railed against the NBA and Commissioner Adam Silver, who banned him for life after his private racist comments were released by gossip site TMZ.com and fined him $2.5 million.
And later, when Shelly took the stand, she outlined how she had seen Donald change and said, "He's just not the same person he used to be."
Her testimony ended the court session for the day.
Donald Sterling, on the stand, said he "probably would have" agreed to sell the club if the NBA had removed the penalties, which he thought they had initially.
"They indicated they would resolve all of the issues that remained, implying that if there was any punishment, which was the most serious punishment in the history of the Bar association and the history of sports," Donald testified. "To impose a $2.5 million fine. To bar somebody forever. There's something behind that, and we'll find out what it is."
*Of Silver, Donald said. "This guy's been in office all of 60 days and he's going to show the world he's not going to permit racism. But I'm not a racist. I love all people."
*On changing his mind and opposing the sale, Donald said, "I changed my mind. Or they changed my mind for me."
And then he blasted the NBA: "This is the worst corporation in America, and everyone will find out how terrible and dishonest they are. ... I will never ever ever sell this team. Until I die I will be suing the NBA."
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Donald ended his testimony by saying how he runs all his businesses and has made a fortune.
"I do it all, and I'm happy to share it with my wife. I'm happy to give her half ... or maybe more."
With Shelly on the stand, her attorney Pierce O'Donnell asked if she were separated from her husband?
"Sort of," Shelly answered.
She went on to testify she had become increasingly concerned about Donald's mental health in the past three years.
"He's been getting more forgetful. He's slurring his words. He's agitated a lot," Shelly testified. "He gets mad for no particular reason. He's just not the same person he used to be."
Asked if she loves him, she said, "Very much."
As his wife testified, Donald sat in the front spectator row, listening impassively, without much expression.
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Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling speaks with CNN's Anderson Cooper during an interview shown May 12, after Sterling had been banned from the NBA.(Photo: Reuters)
Shelly said she was moved to arrange for him to have a mental evaluation after his poor performance in a CNN interview with Anderson Cooper.
"I started crying," Shelly said of her reaction to watching that interview. "I felt so bad. ... I thought for his own health and my health that he should be tested. Something was wrong."
After the session ended, after Donald had said to her, "Stay away from me, you pig," he started to say something else to her, and Judge Michael Levanas interrupted.
"Please don't make any comments to your wife. That's somewhat disturbing," Levanas said.
Earlier, as Donald Sterling took the stand for a second day, he was asked by Shelly's lawyer Bert Fields if he is retired.
Sterling said, "I have five major corporations and I run them all. How could I be retired? You know I'm not retired."
Said Fields: "Have you finished your answer?"
Said Sterling: "Have you finished your question?"
Judge Michael Levanas, who frequently Tuesday had to play traffic cop during Sterling's testimony, interjected: "Well, that's not too bad. It's better than yesterday."
And everyone had a big laugh.
Moments later, Fields wrapped up his questioning, and Sterling's longtime lawyer Blecher began the friendly cross-examination.
"How old are you?"
"Eighty years old, but I feel half that old," Sterling said.
"How long have you been married?"
Sterling looked at the ceiling and said, "A hundred years." After a pause, he said, "I've been married 58 years."
The trial had resumed with Dr. Meril Platzer, who was back testifying after not coming to court Tuesday with her entire file of her examination of Donald Sterling in May. Gary Ruttenberg, one of Donald's attorneys, received the file Wednesday and took up more questioning of Platzer.
Ruttenberg grilled Platzer in his attempt to show that Platzer was, as Donald said in testimony Tuesday, a "hired gun" whose sole purpose was to assist Shelly and her lawyers in getting Donald certified as mentally incapacitated and removed as a co-trustee from the Sterling Family Trust. Judge Levanas repeatedly told Ruttenberg, "Let's move on."
And, indeed, Platzer was asked about her memory of a June 9 phone mail from Donald, a hostile message in which he threatened to sue her and called her "a horrible woman." Platzer testified, "I've been over that tape so many times, I don't even want to listen to it any more."
Donald, in resuming answers to questions by his attorney Blecher, was a witness everyone wanted to hear.
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Longtime Donald Sterling attorney Max Blecher arrives at the Los Angeles Superior court for Day 2 of his client's testimony in theprobate trial vs. estranged wife Shelly.(Photo: Robert Hanashiro, USA TODAY Sports)
*He was asked about Shelly removing him as co-trustee: "She deceived me. I trusted her . I believed in her. I never thought a woman wouldn't stand by her husband."
*On his wife not being savvy enough to understand the trust, Donald testified: "My wife in her entire life -- my beautiful wife -- has never read the trust. She wouldn't know what's in the trust. The trust is complicated."
*And on Shelly trying to sell the Clippers to Ballmer, Donald testified:
"She has no rights whatsoever. She may be a trustee. But she has no stock. She has no authority to make any decision to sell. All of that will come out."
*On why his wife is attempting to sell the Clippers: "My wife was terrified. She can't sleep, because she thinks the NBA will take everything away from her. Her motivation was she was scared out of her mind. She couldn't sleep. She was scared out of her mind."
Sterling said he tried to calm his wife.
"I tried to convince her that the NBA is just like any other corporation in America, only worse. She couldn't be convinced."
It often seems that the lawyers and witnesses are talking a lot about Donald Sterling's mental capacity. But that is not actually a matter to be decided at the trial.
The two issues that are to be decided by Judge Levanas are:
*Did Shelly Sterling properly comply with the terms of the Sterling Family Trust in having Donald removed as a co-trustee, or was Donald defrauded by Shelly and/or the two doctors who examined him in May and found him to be mentally incapacitated?
*After Donald Sterling exercised his right to revoke the trust agreement June 9, did Shelly have the legal right to go ahead with the sale of the Clippers to billionaire Ballmer?
Also, Donald Sterling's lawyers continue to maintain that his medical privacy rights are being violated by the testimony of the doctors – Platzer and James Spar – who examined him. Shelly Sterling's lawyers maintain there is a provision waiving those rights in the trust.
Quote from: Cory on July 09, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
I think if the question comes down to if you're Lebron do you want to play with Wiggins/Love/Irving or Napier/Bosh/Wade its pretty clear what the RIGHT choice is.
Yeah it is very clear.
Quote from: Cory on July 09, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
I think if the question comes down to if you're Lebron do you want to play with Wiggins/Love/Irving or Napier/Bosh/Wade its pretty clear what the RIGHT choice is.
The rumor I heard was that Wiggins was involved in the deal to get Love?...
Funny you should mention that...
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Report: Cavs trying to line up Kevin Love trade if they get LeBron
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24613205/report-cavs-trying-to-line-up-kevin-love-trade-if-they-get-lebron (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24613205/report-cavs-trying-to-line-up-kevin-love-trade-if-they-get-lebron)
QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers are trying to pair free agent forward LeBron James with Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Love, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
Cleveland has long been seen as a potential destination for Love. The Cavaliers want to compete next year, and the No. 1 pick -- now Andrew Wiggins -- is attractive to the Wolves. There were a couple of question marks, though. First, would Love commit to staying in Cleveland? If James was coming, too, then he presumably would. Second, would the Cavs give up Wiggins? If getting Love would make the situation more enticing for James, they presumably would.
Like almost everything else in free agency, James has the power here. If he decides he wants to go to Cleveland and play with Love, then the Cavs have all the motivation in the world to get this done. If not, then no one can be sure how Love's uncertain future will continue to hover over the Wolves franchise.
Thats a pretty big gamble, trading away a potential franchise player for a guy in Love who didnt want anything to do with Cleveland and could be a 1-2yr patch then leave.
This would only be a deal I'd do if I was Cleveland if I could be sure Love was going to stay...like maybe try and get an extension. I don't know when Love didn't want anything to do with Cleveland, but maybe Lebron would change that.
Quote from: Cory on July 09, 2014, 09:19:43 PM
Thats a pretty big gamble, trading away a potential franchise player for a guy in Love who didnt want anything to do with Cleveland and could be a 1-2yr patch then leave.
No way they do the deal without getting an extension lined up from Love. Wiggins doesn't have to be in the deal- the Cavs have several first round picks over the next few years.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 09, 2014, 09:25:46 PM
No way they do the deal without getting an extension lined up from Love. Wiggins doesn't have to be in the deal- the Cavs have several first round picks over the next few years.
True.
If somehow they end up with Lebron/Irving/Love/Wiggins and Bennett (saying he develops).....it wont be fair. No idea of their cap hits thus it even being possible, but damn.
If Lebron leaves Bosh is going to sign with the Rockets.
Greivis Vasquez, Raptors agree to 2-year contract
url]http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/9/5886213/greivis-vasquez-toronto-raptors-contract[/url]
Quoteeivis Vasquez is re-signing with the Toronto Raptors for $13 million over two years, according to Adrian Wojnarowksi of Yahoo! Sports. Vasquez was acquired in the Rudy Gay trade midway through last season and was a valuable contributor off the bench.
Love's a 25 point 14 rebound guy... Wiggins has played 0 NBA games....
Pulling the trigger on this should be easy should LeBron come to Cleveland.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 09, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
Greivis Vasquez, Raptors agree to 2-year contract
url]http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/7/9/5886213/greivis-vasquez-toronto-raptors-contract[/url]
Raps getting their work done. If they didnt draft a piece of trash in the draft (presumably) they'd be looking like a new franchise.
If LeBron were to go to Cleveland then there is no doubt Love would sign an extension with the Cavs should he be traded. Wiggins will have to be in the trade package because the Cavs have nothing else to offer other than first round picks, but the Wolves want talent now, not later so it would be Wiggins, at least two future first round picks, and Dion Waiters in order to make the trade happen.
If that means Love/Irving/LeBron then I do it. And in that scenario they'd still have Varejao as well, which would be a good move for the Cavs, but they might need to deal him to make salaries match.
(http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/cd0ymzcznguwzdbhnduynddiytjhm2yyzthlmtjjotqwyyznptrjn2i0zgq0mzqynthhodjmmdnlmda1mtayymqznzm5.jpeg?w=176)
Report: Trail Blazers signing Steve Blake
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/report-trail-blazers-signing-steve-blake/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/report-trail-blazers-signing-steve-blake/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteThe Trail Blazers used their mid-level exception on Chris Kaman, removing their biggest weapon for re-signing Mo Williams.
That leaves Portland in need of a backup point guard.
Enter Steve Blake.
Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:
Ken Berger of CBSSports.com:
The full bi-annual exception pays $4,247,465. I'm not sure whether Berger was rounding or Blake took a little less. Obviously, that small difference doesn't matter much.
Blake is a familiar face in Portland, where he'll join the Blazers for his third separate stint. This time around, he'll back up Damian Lillard.
Blake finished last season in Golden State, somewhat adequately filling the Warriors' need for a backup point guard. But it should be telling they prioritized an upgrade at that spot this offseason, signing Shaun Livingston. At 34, Blake will likely fall short of his previous production in Portland, so the Trail Blazers shouldn't expect too much. He's an above-average backup at this point, but not much more.
For the record, this doesn't change what Portland can offer Williams. His non-Bird rights still allow room for a four-year, $13,588,848 contract with the The Trail Blazers. But considering Portland just filled his role and he can likely make more elsewhere, Williams is likely moving on.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680)
Looks like the Lebron James Consolation Prize Lottery is now over.
Quote from: JackHondo on July 10, 2014, 01:13:32 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680)
Looks like the Lebron James Consolation Prize Lottery is now over.
There's still a chance he goes to the Lakers and no official decision has been made.
BREAKING NEWS:
LeBron has...not made a decision yet.
Little bit of news as it relates to this. Lebron's representatives apparently contacted the police department in his home town about an announcement tonight.
QuotePHIL TREXLER-ABJ @PhilTrexler · 1h
Folks in Bath feel strongly that LBJ will sign w/ CLE. LBJ's camp contacted cops hour ago to alert them of tonight's annoucement. #kingjames
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 10, 2014, 03:16:54 PM
Little bit of news as it relates to this. Lebron's representatives apparently contacted the police department in his home town about an announcement tonight.
If that's the case, he contacted them to keep him safe because he is staying in Miami.
He's going back to Cleveland. It's so obvious.
He's going to Phoenix.
He's going to Disneyworld.
Isn't he in Vegas?
Quote from: Jon on July 10, 2014, 03:50:32 PM
He's going back to Cleveland. It's so obvious.
Bet? And i know put it on my tab!!
Quote from: Domingo on July 10, 2014, 03:59:03 PM
Isn't he in Vegas?
He is. And then he's going to Brazil for the World Cup final...
People in my town are doing this:
#Lebroning
It means not making a decision.
And I think its kinda funny
BREAKING NEWS: Mike Flips signs with Miami Heat recreates Big 3 with two Flipsopoly pieces
P.J. Tucker Re-Signs With Phoenix Suns For Three Years
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/7/10/5889087/p-j-tucker-re-signs-with-phoenix-suns-for-three-years (http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2014/7/10/5889087/p-j-tucker-re-signs-with-phoenix-suns-for-three-years)
QuoteSeemingly out of the blue, the Phoenix Suns have reportedly signed P.J. Tucker to a new deal...$16.5 mil over a three year period.
Tucker had expressed his interest in staying with Phoenix, and it looks like both sides were able to make it work in what seems to be a very reasonable deal for the Suns.
Good for P.J., great for Phoenix and the Suns' fans...a win-win all around
If LeBron goes back to Cleveland he will give up the little leverage the players do have. After what Dan Gilbert said about him and then his tactics in the lockout negotiations i dont see how he can go back. He will go against what he has been advocating on behalf of the players in their CBA.
Told ya.
Glad to see the two best Canadian prospects arguably of all time get to play with one of the GOATs in his prime...excited to see the Cavs play.
Someone needs to check on Doug. I fear he's going through a medical emergency.
Twitter is on fire today:
QuoteDrake in the studio with Chris Brown & Bron is going back to Cleveland. If there was ever a time to try to get back with your ex, its TODAY.
QuoteLeBron is going back to Cleveland.
Garth's going back to country music.
This is your moment Bieber.
QuoteToday is like The Purge of the sports world. Athletes, do the fool today. If you get arrested, it ain't trumpin' Bron.
Quote from: JackHondo on July 11, 2014, 01:21:02 PM
Someone needs to check on Doug. I fear he's going through a medical emergency.
According to Facebook, he just finished a run. That means he probably doesn't know yet...unless the rocks cried out in Cleveland.
Lebron is in Cleveland. Now we can go back to worrying about where Melo and Bosh end up.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 11, 2014, 01:27:34 PM
According to Facebook, he just finished a run. That means he probably doesn't know yet...unless the rocks cried out in Cleveland.
Correct!
He's back. Neat.
Go Cavs.
Is it hockey season yet? :)
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 11, 2014, 01:37:55 PM
Lebron is in Cleveland. Now we can go back to worrying about where Melo and Bosh end up.
It's been made pretty clear that if Lebron wasn't staying in Miami that Bosh was going to Houston.
P.S. it is good news for Cleveland. Its positive. I'm down to see it happen. But I also don't care about all the hoopla surrounding it.
Even though I live in Vermont I knew I should have gotten Cavs season tickets so I could Stubhub those bad boys.... Could have made some nice cash.
ESPN is also saying that Love is now ready to commit to Cleveland should he be traded there.
Maybe God doesn't hate Cleveland nearly as much as he did last week.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11203427/kevin-love-intrigued-commit-cleveland-cavaliers (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11203427/kevin-love-intrigued-commit-cleveland-cavaliers)
Also it'll be interesting to see if Miami makes a play for someone like Lance Stephenson with all that cap space they will have open.
Rockets have traded Jeremy Lin and a future pick to the Lakers. Looks like Bosh is on the way to the Rockets and Linsanity is hitting LA.
Cavs want sniff a championship. They have the same problem the Heat did.
Quote from: JustinP on July 11, 2014, 03:11:33 PM
Cavs want sniff a championship. They have the same problem the Heat did.
Going to 4 straight NBA Finals and winning two of them? That problem?
Quote from: Jon on July 11, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
Going to 4 straight NBA Finals and winning two of them? That problem?
If they can keep Wiggins and get Minny to take the deal they are offering, they will be scary good. Tristan Thompson is light years ahead of Haslem offensively and probably gets the nod defensively as well. Add in Verajo, potentially Ray Allen and you're looking at a very, very good team. Certainly better than the one LBJ took to the finals with CLE several years ago.
Whats the deal they're offering? Last I heard/read was Waiters, Bennett, Wiggins and a pick. Really, Minnesota would be foolish not to hold out for Wiggins...
Quote from: C.J. Gates on July 11, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
Whats the deal they're offering? Last I heard/read was Waiters, Bennett, Wiggins and a pick. Really, Minnesota would be foolish not to hold out for Wiggins...
Saw that deal minus Wiggins, which would suck as I want to see Wiggins/Bennett develop and grow together, but would be one hell of a deal....
then again doesnt matter....Raptors within the next 4-5 years will have both Wiggins/Bennett (if Bennett develops). Too much $$$$ for them to not get them.
Quote from: Cory on July 11, 2014, 05:26:48 PM
Saw that deal minus Wiggins, which would suck as I want to see Wiggins/Bennett develop and grow together, but would be one hell of a deal....
then again doesnt matter....Raptors within the next 4-5 years will have both Wiggins/Bennett (if Bennett develops). Too much $$$$ for them to not get them.
The Raptors? No they won't.
Quote from: Jon on July 11, 2014, 05:28:11 PM
The Raptors? No they won't.
Wiggins is to Toronto/Canada basketball what Lebron was to Cleveland before the Heat deal. Come contract time down the road (4-5yrs), Wiggins will be a Raptor, if not before then when they make an outlandish deal. He's stated he wants to play for Toronto, as had Anthony Bennett. Once they develop on their respected teams, they'll end up in Toronto once they hit their prime.
Quote from: Cory on July 11, 2014, 05:31:32 PM
Wiggins is to Toronto/Canada basketball what Lebron was to Cleveland before the Heat deal. Come contract time down the road (4-5yrs), Wiggins will be a Raptor, if not before then when they make an outlandish deal. He's stated he wants to play for Toronto, as had Anthony Bennett. Once they develop on their respected teams, they'll end up in Toronto once they hit their prime.
Not a chance.
Lebron saying he heading back to the Cavs
Quote from: Cory on July 11, 2014, 05:31:32 PM
Wiggins is to Toronto/Canada basketball what Lebron was to Cleveland before the Heat deal. Come contract time down the road (4-5yrs), Wiggins will be a Raptor, if not before then when they make an outlandish deal. He's stated he wants to play for Toronto, as had Anthony Bennett. Once they develop on their respected teams, they'll end up in Toronto once they hit their prime.
Maybe at the end of their careers... or if they turn out to be busts.
But not in their prime.
Wiggins especially.
I'm a Raptor fan, and the only way Wiggins and Bennett wear the red and/or purple of Toronto is when they've won titles elsewhere and want to add playing for their hometown team/Canadian team to their list of things they did.
I'd love to be wrong, I just don't see Wiggins or Bennett coming to Toronto...well, maybe Bennett if he doesn't make strides to improve.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-announces-he-will-return-to-cavaliers-071114?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-announces-he-will-return-to-cavaliers-071114?cmpid=msn%3Afoxsports%3Aansfox11)
Bosh is staying in Miami.
Can't blame him...he's getting an extra 30 million to stay in Miami...
Phoenix Suns just got Isiah Thomas in a sign and trade with the Kings for 4 years for 27 million.
http://arizonasports.com/41/1749680/Report-RFA-Isaiah-Thomas-agrees-to-offer-sheet-with-Phoenix-Suns (http://arizonasports.com/41/1749680/Report-RFA-Isaiah-Thomas-agrees-to-offer-sheet-with-Phoenix-Suns)
QuoteThe news that the Phoenix Suns had brought in restricted free agent Isaiah Thomas in for a visit Thursday came as a bit of a surprise.
The latest report goes a step further.
It's an interesting move for the Suns, who are already loaded at the point guard position.
The 5-foot-9 Thomas, 25, is coming off a season in which he averaged 20.3 points, 6.3 assists, 2.9 rebounds and 1.3 steals per game for the Sacramento Kings.
Originally a second-round pick (60th overall) in the 2011 draft, Thomas has emerged as a solid scoring guard who is successful despite his slight frame.
What this means for the Suns, who already have Goran Dragic, Tyler Ennis, the rights to Eric Bledsoe and Archie Goodwin in the backcourt remains to be seen.
Well then.
I figured for sure that Bosh was Houston bound, considering they moved Lin in a cap move.
That's what I figured too but I guess not.
It may not work, but Houston probably pushes for Carmelo now....
Not if the Bulls have anything to say about it.
I'd still put money on it that he stays in NY but Chicago or Houston are better options to win by far.
The Grizzlies just signed Vince Carter.
For you Bulls fans out there...
Pau Gasol near deal to join Bulls
QuotePau Gasol is inching closer to becoming a Chicago Bull, according to the Spanish newspaper Marca and other media reports.
The paper first reported late Friday that the Bulls are closing in on a deal with Gasol despite the absence of a sign-and-trade agreement with the Lakers.
Sources close to the situation told ESPN.com's Ramona Shelburne late Friday that a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Bulls has not been struck, with the Lakers still looking for draft compensation -- as they received in Friday's earlier trade with Houston to take back the contract of Jeremy Lin -- as the primary return for Gasol.
ESPN.com reported earlier Friday that the Bulls and San Antonio Spurs had emerged as the two leading candidates to land Gasol, with San Antonio poised to land the Spaniard if the Bulls and Lakers could not finalize a sign-and-trade deal.
Sources told Stein late Friday that the Bulls were prioritizing their pursuit of Gasol even ahead of their long-running efforts to sign Carmelo Anthony, fearing that Anthony remains likely to stay with the New York Knicks.
Carmelo Anthony re-signs with the Knicks.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 12, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
Carmelo Anthony re-signs with the Knicks.
He hasn't yet... just negotiating contract talks.
Just reported, Melo will sign a 5 year, $120+ deal with New York.
Quote from: Jon on July 12, 2014, 01:49:30 PM
He hasn't yet... just negotiating contract talks.
Quote from: Jon on July 12, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
Just reported, Melo will sign a 5 year, $120+ deal with New York.
They were saying all this when I posted that...
Bo Dallas strikes again, this time about the Miami Heat. #bolieve
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/03234768B61099433722945679360_118f68420b0.3.2.mp4?versionId=cTr_OkmJ6SoPCPrMCaMVTn6YfjwHWbos (https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/03234768B61099433722945679360_118f68420b0.3.2.mp4?versionId=cTr_OkmJ6SoPCPrMCaMVTn6YfjwHWbos)
LeBron signs 2 year, $42.1 million deal with Cavs. Can opt out after 1 year.
Trevor Ariza signed a four year 32 million deal with the Rockets.
Quote from: Jon on July 12, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
LeBron signs 2 year, $42.1 million deal with Cavs. Can opt out after 1 year.
Smarter than he looks ... waiting on a new CBA deal so he won't get pigeonholed into a below value contract
Pancho's right... a max deal after new CBA could be much higher... LeBron could get even bigger money in a few years.
Quote from: Jon on July 12, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
LeBron signs 2 year, $42.1 million deal with Cavs. Can opt out after 1 year.
See you next year - same LeBron time, same LeBron channel.
Pau Gasol to sign with Bulls
http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/12/pau-gasol-bulls-sign-contract-chicago-los-angeles-lakers (http://www.si.com/nba/2014/07/12/pau-gasol-bulls-sign-contract-chicago-los-angeles-lakers)
QuoteThe Bulls have agreed to sign unrestricted free agent forward/center Pau Gasol. The terms of the agreement are not yet known.
"It hasn't been easy," Gasol wrote on Twitter. "After meditating [on] it a lot I've chosen to play with the Chicago Bulls. Looking forward to this new chapter of my career."
Gasol, 34, spent the last six-plus seasons with the Lakers, teaming with All-Star guard Kobe Bryant to win titles in 2009 and 2010. The Spanish 7-footer is regarded as one of the best passing big men in basketball, and he was reportedly pursued by the Lakers, Thunder and Spurs, among other teams. He averaged 17.4 points and 9.7 rebounds per game last season.
SI.com ranked Gasol at No. 15 on our "Top 25 Free Agents of 2014" list, noting that a change of scenery made sense for after a failed partnership with Dwight Howard in 2012-13 and a strained relationship with former Lakers coach Mike D'Antoni over the last two years.
In Chicago, Gasol will join a frontcourt that also includes 2014 Defensive Player of the Year Joakim Noah and Taj Gibson. The Bulls have reportedly been considering using the amnesty clause on power forward Carlos Boozer. Gasol will be asked to help spark an offense that ranked No. 27 in efficiency last season, as All-Star guard Derrick Rose missed most of the year with a knee injury.
Paul Pierce headed to Washington
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11208931/paul-pierce-washington-wizards-agree-two-year-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11208931/paul-pierce-washington-wizards-agree-two-year-deal)
QuotePaul Pierce has agreed to a deal with the Washington Wizards, sources tell ESPN.com.
The deal is for two years and worth nearly $11 million with a player option entering the second year, sources said.
Heat front runners to land Luol Deng.
Quote from: Jon on July 13, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
Heat front runners to land Luol Deng.
Actually that might change. They're offering 10 million a year and he's not going for it.
With the type of money being thrown around to guys like Heyward, Parsons and Ariza- Deng should command somewhere near the max. However, Wade & Bosh still have 2-3 prime years left in them. I think they could still make some noise in the East and add Deng and you've got a pretty good starting lineup.
Cole/Napier
Wade
Deng
McRoberts
Bosh
Probably wins 50 games in the East.
Honestly, I don't think Wade has any prime years left in him.
This team will go as far as Bosh takes them. And I hope Bosh becomes the same type of player he was in Toronto instead of the one scared to play his type of game.
Quote from: Jon on July 13, 2014, 12:37:13 PM
Honestly, I don't think Wade has any prime years left in him.
This team will go as far as Bosh takes them. And I hope Bosh becomes the same type of player he was in Toronto instead of the one scared to play his type of game.
People forget how good Wade was before the finals. He just has to be managed wisely.
I always bet on the Bulls to win the whole thing and did this way before free agency kicked off thinking they might make a splash. Here is hoping Gasol is a lock. Optimism is high once more provided Rose is healthy. Loved our work in the draft and guys like Snell and Gibson are proof of some really good draft decisions of the past as well.
Surely this has to be the Bulls season...SURELY! Just need to get rid of Boozer finally!
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 13, 2014, 12:19:14 PM
With the type of money being thrown around to guys like Heyward, Parsons and Ariza- Deng should command somewhere near the max. However, Wade & Bosh still have 2-3 prime years left in them. I think they could still make some noise in the East and add Deng and you've got a pretty good starting lineup.
Cole/Napier
Wade
Deng
McRoberts
Bosh
Probably wins 50 games in the East.
I do t think the Heat get him unless they go over 10 mil a season and they aren't offering him that.
Wade has two or three prime years left?
He played a quarter of the season to rest up for the playoffs and wasn't effective until he had Lance Stephenson on him, who is smaller than him. As soon as George guarded him in game 5, Wade was back to being ineffective. Wade has 0 prime years left and needs to accept that he is Manu Ginobli from now on.
Luol Deng agrees to a 2 year, 20 million dollar deal to play for the Heat.
Quote from: ESPNCleveland opened trade talks with Minnesota by offering Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett and a first-round draft pick -- a deal that was declined by the Timberwolves, sources told ESPN. The Cavaliers likely will need to find a third team in order to acquire Love in a trade that doesn't include Wiggins.
Blatt: Cavs won't trade Wiggins
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11209471/cleveland-cavaliers-trade-andrew-wiggins-coach-david-blatt-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11209471/cleveland-cavaliers-trade-andrew-wiggins-coach-david-blatt-says)
QuoteAndrew Wiggins will get the opportunity to begin his NBA career alongside LeBron James, according to Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt.
Blatt refuted speculation that the Cavaliers could part with Wiggins in a potential deal to land Kevin Love, telling reporters that he is unaware of any plans to trade the No. 1 overall pick.
"There's no reason or cause for worry on his part because Andrew's not going anywhere, as far as I know and as far as the club has expressed," Blatt told reporters Saturday following the Cavaliers' Summer League practice in Las Vegas.
The Cavaliers made the biggest splash of the offseason by convincing James to return to Cleveland, ending the Akron native's four-year stint with the Miami Heat.
Love is "intrigued" by the idea of joining James in Cleveland and would commit to a long-term deal with the Cavaliers, a source told ESPN on Friday. But Love's current team, the Minnesota Timberwolves, want Wiggins in any deal for Love, sources told ESPN.
Cleveland opened trade talks with Minnesota by offering Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett and a first-round draft pick -- a deal that was declined by the Timberwolves, sources told ESPN. The Cavaliers likely will need to find a third team in order to acquire Love in a trade that doesn't include Wiggins.
"
I would think for a guy like Andrew, to have the opportunity to play with arguably one of the best players of all time, and to learn from him and to be tutored by him and to play alongside him -- which he will -- I gotta think that's a tremendous boost to his confidence.
"
-- Cavaliers coach David Blatt, on the prospect of Andrew Wiggins
playing with LeBron James
Sources told ESPN that the Cavaliers have informed Wiggins he will not be traded, and Blatt affirmed the franchise's commitment to the former Kansas star, saying he is looking forward to watching him mesh with James.
"I would think for a guy like Andrew, to have the opportunity to play with arguably one of the best players of all time, and to learn from him and to be tutored by him and to play alongside him -- which he will -- I gotta think that's a tremendous boost to his confidence and his comfort level and probably his motivation," Blatt told reporters.
Wiggins scored 18 points in his professional debut Friday, helping the Cavaliers to a 70-68 Summer League win over the Milwaukee Bucks and the draft's No. 2 pick, Jabari Parker.
One day later, the 19-year-old guard reiterated his excitement to play with James.
"The best player comes to your team," Wiggins told reporters. "It's going to be a great learning experience for me to play alongside the best in the game."
Blatt: Cavs won't trade Wiggins
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11209471/cleveland-cavaliers-trade-andrew-wiggins-coach-david-blatt-says (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11209471/cleveland-cavaliers-trade-andrew-wiggins-coach-david-blatt-says)
QuoteAndrew Wiggins will get the opportunity to begin his NBA career alongside LeBron James, according to Cleveland Cavaliers coach David Blatt.
Blatt refuted speculation that the Cavaliers could part with Wiggins in a potential deal to land Kevin Love, telling reporters that he is unaware of any plans to trade the No. 1 overall pick.
"There's no reason or cause for worry on his part because Andrew's not going anywhere, as far as I know and as far as the club has expressed," Blatt told reporters Saturday following the Cavaliers' Summer League practice in Las Vegas.
The Cavaliers made the biggest splash of the offseason by convincing James to return to Cleveland, ending the Akron native's four-year stint with the Miami Heat.
Love is "intrigued" by the idea of joining James in Cleveland and would commit to a long-term deal with the Cavaliers, a source told ESPN on Friday. But Love's current team, the Minnesota Timberwolves, want Wiggins in any deal for Love, sources told ESPN.
Cleveland opened trade talks with Minnesota by offering Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett and a first-round draft pick -- a deal that was declined by the Timberwolves, sources told ESPN. The Cavaliers likely will need to find a third team in order to acquire Love in a trade that doesn't include Wiggins.
"
I would think for a guy like Andrew, to have the opportunity to play with arguably one of the best players of all time, and to learn from him and to be tutored by him and to play alongside him -- which he will -- I gotta think that's a tremendous boost to his confidence.
"
-- Cavaliers coach David Blatt, on the prospect of Andrew Wiggins
playing with LeBron James
Sources told ESPN that the Cavaliers have informed Wiggins he will not be traded, and Blatt affirmed the franchise's commitment to the former Kansas star, saying he is looking forward to watching him mesh with James.
"I would think for a guy like Andrew, to have the opportunity to play with arguably one of the best players of all time, and to learn from him and to be tutored by him and to play alongside him -- which he will -- I gotta think that's a tremendous boost to his confidence and his comfort level and probably his motivation," Blatt told reporters.
Wiggins scored 18 points in his professional debut Friday, helping the Cavaliers to a 70-68 Summer League win over the Milwaukee Bucks and the draft's No. 2 pick, Jabari Parker.
One day later, the 19-year-old guard reiterated his excitement to play with James.
"The best player comes to your team," Wiggins told reporters. "It's going to be a great learning experience for me to play alongside the best in the game."
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 13, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
Luol Deng agrees to a 2 year, 20 million dollar deal to play for the Heat.
It won't happen said GM Franchise.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on July 13, 2014, 04:29:27 PM
It won't happen said GM Franchise.
I'm shocked they got him considering he was wanting more money at the start of free agency.
Richard Jefferson is finalizing a one year deal to play for the Mavericks according to ESPN.
Rockets decide not to match Chandler Parsons offer sheet
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-07-13/rockets-chandler-parsons-offer-sheet-mavericks-nba-free-agency-dwight-howard-mark-cuban-dirk-nowitzki (http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-07-13/rockets-chandler-parsons-offer-sheet-mavericks-nba-free-agency-dwight-howard-mark-cuban-dirk-nowitzki)
QuoteThe Houston Rockets have decided not to match the Dallas Mavericks' three-year, $46 million offer for small forward Chandler Parsons, according to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle.
The Rockets decided they would not be a title contender with a big three of Parsons, Dwight Howard and James Harden. It's ironic because Parsons' recruitment of Howard was a major factor in his decision to join the team last season.
Chandler Parsons (AP Photo)
MORE: Parsons signs, parties with Cuban | Lin traded to LA | Stephenson suitors: Hornets, Mavs, Pacers
Those within the franchise were torn over the decision, according to Feigen. But, ultimately, Houston decided it would be hard to build with Parsons, Howard, Hardan and Trevor Ariza on large contracts. Ariza's ability on defense also played a part in the team's decision to keep him as the No. 1 option at small forward, Feigen reports.
In Dallas, Parsons will take on a larger role and be paid a contract that matches his talent level. A former second-round pick, Parsons averaged 16.6 points, 5.5 rebounds and 4.0 assists and received less than $1 million for the season.
This decision and others, including the Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik trades, free up considerable salary cap space and present an opportunity to add more talent.
Report: Mario Chalmers agrees to 2-year deal with Heat
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24619536/report-mario-chalmers-agrees-to-2-year-deal-with-heat (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24619536/report-mario-chalmers-agrees-to-2-year-deal-with-heat)
QuoteThe Miami Heat have reached an agreement with free agent Mario Chalmers on a two-year deal, according to ESPN's Marc Stein. Financial terms of the deal have not yet been reported.
Chalmers had an extremely disappointing NBA Finals, but before that he averaged 9.8 points, 4.9 assists and 2.9 rebounds per game as the Heat's starting point guard, shooting 45 percent from the field and 39 percent from behind the three-point line.
With LeBron James in Cleveland, next season will give Chalmers an opportunity to be more of a playmaker than he's been in the last four seasons.
Reports: Wizards, Rockets, Pelicans turn Asik, Ariza deals into 3-way trade
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24619579/report-wizards-rockets-pelicans-turn-asik-ariza-deals-into-3-way-trade (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24619579/report-wizards-rockets-pelicans-turn-asik-ariza-deals-into-3-way-trade)
QuoteThe Washington Wizards, Houston Rockets and New Orleans Pelicans have reportedly agreed to a three-way trade, per NBA.com's David Aldridge and USA Today's Sam Amick. Here's how it's going to shake out:
Wizards get: $8.5 million trade exception, Melvin Ely's unguaranteed contract
Rockets get: Trevor Ariza, Alonzo Gee, New Orleans' 2015 protected first-round pick
Pelicans get: Omer Asik, Omri Casspi, $1.5 million cash from Houston
That's a pretty nice trade exception for Washington. With the Paul Pierce signing and now this, the Wizards have recovered pretty nicely after what initially looked like a devastating loss.
Dwyane Wade staying with Heat
http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11218554/dwyane-wade-agrees-new-contract-miami-heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/11218554/dwyane-wade-agrees-new-contract-miami-heat)
QuoteDwyane Wade has agreed to a new contract with the Miami Heat and is expected to finalize it as early as Tuesday.
Wade took to Twitter on Tuesday to announce the agreement:
The Associated Press, citing an anonymous source, reported the deal is for two years and worth about $34 million, with a player option for the 2015-16 season.
With the Heat's recent moves, including getting commitments from Chris Bosh, Luol Deng and Chris Andersen and signing Josh McRoberts, Mario Chalmers and Danny Granger, the Heat have positioned themselves to give Wade a contract that starts at about $15 million per season. Wade is expected to sign for up to four years.
Wade played just 54 regular-season games in 2013-14 as he dealt with various knee injuries and the Heat often held him out to rest him. He averaged 19 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4.7 assists per game on a career-high 55 percent shooting. He averaged 17.8 points per game during the playoffs.
He is taking roughly an $8 million pay cut from the two years and $42 million he opted out of to become a free agent last month.
Wade's pay cut, the second time in his career he's taken less to help the Heat, helped free up money to give Bosh a full five-year, $118 million max contract and Deng a two-year, $20 million deal.
Never any question Wade was gonna return.
Quote from: Jon on July 15, 2014, 03:59:39 PM
Never any question Wade was gonna return.
What about those reports of him possibly returning home to play in Chicago?
As expected the Bulls just used their amnesty clause on Carlos Boozer ending his career there.
Humphries to Wiz in sign-and-trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11218871/washington-wizards-get-kris-humphries-boston-celtics (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11218871/washington-wizards-get-kris-humphries-boston-celtics)
QuoteThe Washington Wizards are set to acquire veteran forward Kris Humphries as part of a sign-and-trade deal with the Boston Celtics, sources confirmed to ESPN.com.
Humphries is expected to sign a three-year, $13 million contract. The Wizards and Celtics are finalizing the details of the sign-and-trade agreement.
The deal was first reported by Bleacher Report.
Humphries averaged 8.4 points and 5.9 rebounds over 19.9 minutes per game last season. Acquired as part of the blockbuster deal that sent Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett to Brooklyn, Humphries earned a team-high $12 million last season and emerged as a locker-room leader while nurturing the development of Boston's younger talent.
Humphries took to Twitter to say he's ready to get started with his new team by calling out the address of Verizon Center -- the Wizards' home arena.
The Celtics, stocked with young talent at power forward, were not expected to re-sign Humphries this summer. It seems likely that Boston will receive a trade exception as part of the sign-and-trade agreement with Washington.
The Wizards appear to have the ability to absorb Humphries' contract by receiving a trade exception as part of the sign-and-trade deal that will send Trevor Ariza to the Houston Rockets.
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Gold tabs on collars of past champs
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11219276/nba-jerseys-now-feature-gold-tabs-collars-indicate-teams-won-titles (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11219276/nba-jerseys-now-feature-gold-tabs-collars-indicate-teams-won-titles)
QuoteAll NBA teams that have won a championship will wear a small gold tab on their back jersey collars starting with the 2014-15 season, according to images obtained from an adidas retail catalog that began circulating on the Internet on Tuesday afternoon.
The gold championship tab would be the first league-wide championship badge ever used by one of the "Big Four" North American professional sports leagues, and it is similar to the star system used by soccer teams to denote World Cup titles.
But while soccer teams add an additional star for each championship, the NBA plans to use a single tab for all teams that have won a title, so a one-time champion, like the Portland Trail Blazers, will wear the same badge as a team that has won many, like the Boston Celtics.
The gold tabs were announced on Twitter by Conrad Burry, who told ESPN.com that he obtained the images from an adidas catalog used by retailers for the 2014-15 season:
The adidas catalog was then shared among several additional sources, including ESPN.com. In addition to the championship tabs, it shows that the NBA has the following uniform developments in store for this fall:
• The Pacers, Kings and Raptors will have throwbacks.
• The Celtics and Bulls will have sleeved jerseys for St. Patrick's Day.
• The Celtics' road jersey will now have "Boston" on the chest, instead of "Celtics."
• This season's edition of the Lakers' black "Hollywood Nights" jerseys will have sleeves.
• There will be no sleeves, however, for this season's Hispanic heritage jerseys.
• Several teams will have new "Pride" jerseys (much like the Pistons' "Motor City" design or the Blazers' "Rip City" design), although those jerseys haven't yet been shown.
Cavs getting some of that Mike Miller goodness.
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on July 15, 2014, 08:42:55 PM
Cavs getting some of that Mike Miller goodness.
Yep and apparently he turned down a big offer from Denver to go there instead.
Thank you Michael Jordan! Hornets sign Lance Stephenson. Now hopefully he can coexist with a Big Al. There should be plenty shot opportunities to go around.
Quote from: JustinP on July 16, 2014, 06:45:27 AM
Thank you Michael Jordan! Hornets sign Lance Stephenson. Now hopefully he can coexist with a Big Al. There should be plenty shot opportunities to go around.
That's a pretty good deal for the Hornets. I'd take Stephenson and Williams over just Heyward any day of the week.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 15, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
As expected the Bulls just used their amnesty clause on Carlos Boozer ending his career there.
THANK FUCK!
Hornets sign Lance Stephenson
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11221796/lance-stephenson-charlotte-hornets-3-year-27-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11221796/lance-stephenson-charlotte-hornets-3-year-27-million-deal)
QuoteFree-agent guard Lance Stephenson will play for the Charlotte Hornets for the next three seasons. His contract is worth $27 million, league sources said.
The deal was signed early Wednesday morning after Hornets owner Michael Jordan, general manager Rich Cho, head coach Steve Clifford and associate head coach Patrick Ewing met with Stephenson and his representatives Tuesday night in Las Vegas.
The contract, which includes a team option for the final season, ends Stephenson's productive yet volatile four-year stay with the Indiana Pacers.
The Pacers made Stephenson a five-year, $44 million contract offer on July 1. But Stephenson, who led the league in triple-doubles, felt the offer undervalued him.
"Lance is forever grateful for all the love he's received from Pacers fans. He is especially grateful to his teammates, [Pacers coach] Frank Vogel, [owner] Herb Simon, the Pacers management and most of all, Larry Bird," Stephenson's agent, Alberto Ebanks, said in a statement. "While we tried our best to come to the best possible terms for both sides, there was not sufficient flexibility in the terms of the contract, particularly the length of the contract.
"Reports throughout the negotiation process with Indiana have often strayed from the truth but suffice it to say that it was less about the money. Lance will miss the city, the team and the mentor who helped transform him into the dynamic player he has become. He looks forward to making a strong contribution and beginning a new chapter with the Charlotte Hornets."
The Pacers were unwilling to offer Stephenson a shorter deal, spanning two or three years, sources said. Indiana was also unwilling to increase its offer.
The Dallas Mavericks had a two-year, $20 million offer on the table to Stephenson, contingent on the Houston Rockets matching their offer for forward Chandler Parsons. If Houston had matched, Stephenson would have signed with Dallas, sources said.
Like many teams, the Hornets, while fans of Stephenson's play, had concerns about his antics and attitude. But sources say those concerns were alleviated in Tuesday's face-to-face meeting.
Pacers teammates were upset when Stephenson was goaded into his second technical foul in a March win over Miami and again when he publicly challenged LeBron James & Co. during the playoffs. Stephenson also got into a practice scuffle with teammate Evan Turner during the playoffs and was even criticized by Bird, one of Stephenson's biggest fans, after he blew into the ear of James during Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals.
Pacers center Roy Hibbert, though, tweeted Wednesday that he'll miss having Stephenson
NBA, where the drama continues...
Silver: No guarantee on D. Sterling
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11220986/adam-silver-guarantee-donald-sterling-before-season-starts (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11220986/adam-silver-guarantee-donald-sterling-before-season-starts)
QuoteLAS VEGAS -- NBA commissioner Adam Silver addressed media after the NBA's Board of Governors meeting with a variety of information on how the NBA product might improve.
What he couldn't promise, though, was the extrication of Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, who remains in a legal dispute with the league over his contested ownership of the team, before the beginning of the 2014-15 season.
"I can't say with certainty because it's in the hands of the probate court right now, and Donald is in the process of suing us for lots of money and we're defending ourselves against those lawsuits," Silver said.
While Silver continues to profess that the NBA will prevail in either getting Sterling to sell the Clippers or wresting control of the team from him via the legal system, the commissioner could not give ironclad assurances.
"It's difficult to say anything with certainty in a situation like this," Silver said. "I can say with certainty that we are doing everything in our power to move Donald out as an owner in the NBA."
The commissioner announced that the NBA has yet to approve ex-Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, whose $2 billion bid on the team was accepted on May 30 by Shelly Sterling in a written agreement.
In addition to the update on the Clippers situation, Silver spoke of several changes and proposals. He announced that the NBA's replay review system will be aided by a replay center in Secaucus, New Jersey. Silver also floated the idea of a televised NBA awards show, and a midseason tournament.
Silver also addressed his thoughts on LeBron James' decision to leave the Miami Heat for the Cleveland Cavaliers, a decision he learned of on Twitter, "when virtually everyone else learned about it." Silver said he was moved by James' statement that appeared in Sports Illustrated.
"I've gotten to know LeBron pretty well over the years," Silver said. "From that standpoint, I really am more like a fan. This seemed to be a great moment for the league. And again, I understand it's Miami's loss, but that's always going to be an issue when you have such a transcendent player like LeBron."
Carlos Boozer to join Lakers
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11229606/carlos-boozer-join-los-angeles-lakers (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11229606/carlos-boozer-join-los-angeles-lakers)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Lakers have acquired Carlos Boozer on amnesty waivers, sources told ESPN.com.
Boozer was released by the Chicago Bulls earlier this week, and teams with cap space could make a bid on a portion of his $16.8 million contract.
The Lakers made the highest bid in a blind auction and were awarded him on Thursday shortly after 5 p.m. ET.
Boozer averaged 13.7 points and 8.3 rebounds for the Bulls last season.
Only nine teams in the league had sufficient salary-cap space to bid for Boozer: Atlanta, Charlotte, Houston, Milwaukee, Orlando, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Utah and the Lakers.
After a rough start to free agency, Los Angeles now has secured relative bargain deals with Memphis Grizzlies free-agent forward Ed Davis and Boozer to upgrade their frontcourt cast.
Eh... we'll take it.
Eric Bledsoe and Suns far apart on Deal
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2105767-eric-bledsoe-rumors-latest-buzz-and-speculation-surrounding-suns-g (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2105767-eric-bledsoe-rumors-latest-buzz-and-speculation-surrounding-suns-g)
QuoteESPN's Chris Broussard reports Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns remain miles apart in their ongoing contract negotiation:
Broussard added more on the discussions:
The future of one of the most talented free agents left on the market remains cloudy as Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns remain far apart in contract talks, according to sources close to the situation.
Bledsoe's representatives have been engaged in discussions with Phoenix, but the Suns' offer is far below what Bledsoe is looking for.
Updates from Saturday, July 5
Yahoo Sports' Marc J. Spears has an update on Bledsoe's status with the Suns:
Original Text
One year ago, Eric Bledsoe was the lynchpin to the Phoenix Suns' rebuilding effort. Eleven months later, the talented point guard's future is once again the topic of discussion.
Bledsoe, 24, is a restricted free agent come July 1 and is expected to garner offers around the league at an eight-figure yearly salary. Publicly, Suns management has been open with its desire to keep Bledsoe and fellow free agent P.J. Tucker in the fold.
"We'll try to do that as soon as possible and not let it get to the point where you'd have to get an offer and we'd match it," Suns general manager Ryan McDonough told Paul Coro of The Arizona Republic.
Privately, it seems the situation is more fluid.
Jake Fischer of Liberty Ballers and The Boston Globe reported the Kings have floated a trade that would send the No. 8 pick in this year's draft and guard Isaiah Thomas to Phoenix for Bledsoe:
The offer comes from Sacramento's side—and it is difficult by its very nature due to both players being free agents—so it's possible the Suns have zero interest in such a swap. Phoenix already has three first-round picks in this year's draft, and McDonough has continually floated the idea of swapping at least one of those selections. Adding another pick to the mix only compounds the problem—even if it's a juicy mid-lottery pick.
There is also the issue of further compensation. It's curious that Sacramento would dangle both its first-round pick and Thomas in a Bledsoe deal. Thomas, also a restricted free agent this summer, averaged 20.3 points and 6.3 assists per game this season while shooting at a solid clip from three-point range. His status as a defensive liability makes his projection as a long-term starting guard questionable, but Bledsoe is not exactly proven as a lead guard.
The former Kentucky standout averaged 17.7 points, 5.5 assists and 4.7 rebounds per game in his first season in the desert. While he showed promise as a primary ball-handler and is a good man-to-man defender, Bledsoe missed 39 games due to injury. He's missed at least 20 games in two of his four NBA seasons, and a half-season sampling doesn't seem enough from Sacramento's perspective.
Phoenix's side is a little more interesting, and it largely depends on how management sees Bledsoe. The Suns acquired him amid what seemed like a wide-scale tanking effort. Goran Dragic was considered the likeliest next man out as McDonough gutted the roster, with Bledsoe taking the point guard reins full-time.
Kurt Helin of Pro Basketball Talk broke down Bledsoe and why teams would be interested in the guard:
He's just 24 and played at a near All-Star level in Phoenix last season — 17.7 points with a .578 true shooting percentage, plus 5.3 assists a game with a 19.6 PER — in the 43 games he played. He is a difference maker and can be a big part of the future... if he can stay healthy.
There are a number of teams willing to take that risk, to offer him a healthy contract and see if he can stay on the court.
The result was far different. Dragic emerged as an All-NBA selection, Phoenix narrowly missed out on the playoffs and McDonough comes into this offseason tasked with keeping the good vibes going.
Keeping Bledsoe would go a long way toward accomplishing that goal. The Suns were playing like a playoff lock before Bledsoe went down with a knee injury. While they kept their solid play up in his absence, the team has still not seen what the Bledsoe-Dragic pairing can do over a full season. Phoenix has one of the league's cleanest cap sheets and can sign Bledsoe and another veteran piece this offseason.
Matt York/Associated Press
Price might be the deciding factor.
In reporting Phoenix's interest in Kevin Love, Yahoo Sports' Marc J. Spears said it would take a maximum contract to "control" Bledsoe's rights. A maximum contract with someone at Bledsoe's experience level averages $15 million per season. That's a lot of faith for someone with a total of 78 starts in his four professional campaigns.
The Suns are able to match any offer sheet Bledsoe receives, so they may be more willing to let him test the market rather than throw a preventative max his way. If they find the offer sheet too onerous, then a sign-and-trade deal could be worked out. The Kings and Pelicans worked out a similar quid pro quo trade last summer for Tyreke Evans.
Either way, the Kings-Suns rumor seems far-fetched. It's a ton to give up from Sacramento's perspective, and the possible return for Phoenix is something it already has an abundance of. Barring something unforeseen, Bledsoe won't be a King.
Bledsoe is not worth a max contract. I'm not sure who in his corner his telling him so.
Quote from: JustinP on July 18, 2014, 08:20:40 AM
Bledsoe is not worth a max contract. I'm not sure who in his corner his telling him so.
Doesn't mean he won't get one.
Quote from: Jon on July 18, 2014, 09:06:03 AM
Doesn't mean he won't get one.
Oh I know that, but I honestly don't see any team giving him a max contract. I'm not even sure there is a team that will give him more than what the Suns offered.
Considering they've already got like 6 guards under contract now (including Thomas who was mentioned in that news piece) the Suns have already positioned themselves for if/when Bledsoe were to jump to another team.
Wolves turned down Wiggins/Bennett/1st round pick for Love. I guess they want Lebron.
Lakers are going to hire Byron Scott as their new head coach.
Scott gets 4 years, $17M from Lakers
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11270271/byron-scott-agrees-terms-los-angeles-lakers-become-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11270271/byron-scott-agrees-terms-los-angeles-lakers-become-head-coach)
QuoteThe Los Angeles Lakers have agreed to terms on a four-year, $17 million contract with Byron Scott to be their next head coach, sources told ESPN.
The Lakers hold a team option on the final year of the deal.
Scott has been the front-runner for the job throughout most of the nearly three-month coaching search, which began when Mike D'Antoni resigned on April 30. His status as a three-time champion with the team during the Showtime era, close relationship with Kobe Bryant and familiarity with the current roster after having worked as an analyst all last season for the Lakers television station, Time Warner Cable SportsNet, gave him the early edge. Scott then impressed Lakers management during three interviews, the last of which took place after the team's roster had been filled out and Scott was given a chance to articulate his vision for the current roster.
The Lakers interviewed a handful of candidates for the job, but after making quick hires in their past two coaching searches, the franchise decided to prioritize the draft and free agency over hiring a coach.
Bryant, who played with Scott in 1996 during his rookie season, offered a key endorsement during his basketball camp in Santa Barbara, California, three weeks ago.
"He was my rookie mentor when I first came into the league," Bryant said. "So I had to do things like get his doughnuts and run errands for him and things like that. We've had a tremendously close relationship throughout the years. So, obviously, I know him extremely well. He knows me extremely well. I've always been a fan of his."/quote]
Some good news...
QuoteThe Associated Press @AP · 9m
BREAKING: Judge rules against Clippers owner Donald Sterling, OKs sale of team to ex-Microsoft CEO.
Report: Suns' standoff with Eric Bledsoe has an 'ominous development'
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24642122/report-suns-standoff-with-eric-bledsoe-has-an-ominous-development (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24642122/report-suns-standoff-with-eric-bledsoe-has-an-ominous-development)
QuoteRestricted free agency can be sort of broken in the NBA. While the goal of protecting teams from losing good, young players is mostly working, the stall in negotiations with many restricted free agents risks ruining relationships between the player and the organization. If you're a team with a restricted free agent, there is zero reason for you to get out in front of signing your own player, unless you're worried about the price getting out of control too quickly. Otherwise, you know most teams won't tie up days of negotiations followed by the three-day waiting period for the offer sheet to be matched or passed over.
A perfect case for the matter this summer is what's happening between Eric Bledsoe and the Phoenix Suns. Bledsoe and the Suns are far apart on negotiations, but without a team to drive up the price for the young guard, the stall in negotiations is making things awkward between the two sides. Chris Haynes of CSNNW.com is reporting an "ominous development" has come up between Bledsoe and the Suns and things aren't looking good for a long-term relationship between the two.
Things aren't looking good when it comes to negotiations between the Phoenix Suns and their restricted free agent star guard Eric Bledsoe.
According to league sources, an "ominous development" has arisen with sides still "very far apart" in contract negotiations. It has even escalated to the point where the "relationship is on the express lane to being ruined," a source with knowledge of the situation informed CSNNW.com.
The Suns offered Bledsoe a four-year, $48 million deal with declining salaries each year, two sources said. That proposal was quickly turned down. Bledsoe's camp is putting a max price tag on the player Suns Head Coach Jeff Hornacek called "a Top-10 player in the NBA in coming years", another source said.
This is part of the business of restricted free agency. If you're not worried about another team setting the market for your player then you just wait for them to come to you with an offer sheet. The only other course of action someone like Bledsoe has is accepting the one-year qualifying offer and then becoming a restricted free agent in 2015. That's how you'd really show the Suns they're screwing up a good thing. But that course of action just doesn't happen. It's too much of a risk for the player in terms of guaranteed money. Considering Bledsoe just had a tough knee injury during the season, he'd be crazy to take the qualifying offer.
We've had issues between restricted free agents and players before. Josh Smith wanted to leave the Atlanta Hawks for the Memphis Grizzlies. Eric Gordon asked the New Orleans Pelicans to not match the max offer sheet he signed with the Suns. In both cases, it seemed like the relationship wasn't going to be great moving forward, both offer sheets were matched, and we didn't hear a whole lot about it after. More than likely, the Suns and Bledsoe will agree to a contract that is unlikely to drive the price far above what the Suns are offering. Then both sides will get along again and Bledsoe can deal with it as an unrestricted free agent next time around.
Bledsoe's agent Rich Paul was a little busy with another client named LeBron James early in free agency, but it's unclear if that had anything to do with the stalling of progress in negotiations between the Suns and Bledsoe.
At some point, a player is going to have to be confident and daring enough to sign the qualifying offer and show the team they made a mistake by not coming to terms in a timelier manner. Or they'll just have to wait until 2017 and find ways to speed up the process of restricted free agency so we don't approach August with a talented young player that would be heavily sought-after if he were an unrestricted free agent. Until then, players will have to do a better job of convincing other teams to set the market for their services because there's little incentive in many instances for the incumbent team to do it.
It's time for Bledsoe to realize he's not worth a max contract.
Quote from: JustinP on July 30, 2014, 12:25:59 PM
It's time for Bledsoe to realize he's not worth a max contract.
Everyone seems to have figured that out but him.
Seems to me like 4 years, 48 million is a better contract than 0 for 0.....
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 30, 2014, 04:00:21 PM
Seems to me like 4 years, 48 million is a better contract than 0 for 0.....
He can always take the 1 year tender offer to ensure himself that he becomes an UFA next year.
Quote from: PapaPancho on July 30, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
He can always take the 1 year tender offer to ensure himself that he becomes an UFA next year.
I'm thinking it'll end up getting to this point by the time all is said and done.
True, he can sign fir the tender, but he won't get max next year either.
The Suns can wait him out. They've already got like 5 other PGs.
Quote from: Reya Serra on July 31, 2014, 12:32:11 AM
The Suns can wait him out. They've already got like 5 other PGs.
That's what he's not getting. Sure, they would love to have him, but they truly don't need him. He can accept the one year deal, but he's going to mess himself up in the long run in guaranteed money if he does that as opposed to taking the deal.
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Tony Parker signs extension
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11296467/san-antonio-spurs-sign-tony-parker-multiyear-extension (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11296467/san-antonio-spurs-sign-tony-parker-multiyear-extension)
QuoteTony Parker is by far the youngest of the San Antonio Spurs' Big Three, a fact that could have complicated things going forward as Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili get closer to retirement.
As they are wont to do, the Spurs made things real easy.
The Spurs signed Parker to a multi-year contract extension on Friday, ensuring that the six-time All-Star point guard will be in the fold whether Duncan and Ginobili are able to continue their careers or not.
Terms were not announced, but a source confirmed to ESPN's Marc Stein that the extension is worth $43.3 million over three years.
"So happy," Parker told the San Antonio Express-News. "Spurs for life!"
Parker had been scheduled to make $12.5 million next season in the final year of his existing contract.
The San Antonio Express-News reported the terms of Parker's extension earlier Friday.
Parker has spent all of his 13 NBA seasons with the Spurs, blossoming from an erratic 19-year-old from France into one of the elite point guards in the game. He has helped the Spurs win four of their five NBA titles, the last one coming in June with a dominating victory over the defending champion Miami Heat.
Parker turned 32 in May, but has shown little sign of slowing down. He averaged 16.7 points and 5.7 assists in 29 minutes per game last season and still thrives by changing speeds to keep defenders off balance. The lightning quickness that got him noticed by the Spurs before he was drafted in 2002 is still there, and he can still blow by defenders at the top of the key to get into the paint for a floater or stop on a dime for one of the best pull-up jumpers in the league.
Duncan will turn 39 next season and Ginobili just turned 38, seemingly putting their careers much closer to the end than Parker's. But coach Gregg Popovich has done a masterful job of managing minutes and keeping the wear and tear on them to a minimum, so there really is no telling how long this championship-drenched trio can stick together.
Duncan opted in to the final year of his deal earlier this summer and Ginobili made the difficult decision to pull out of the FIBA World Cup so he could rest a stress fracture in his leg and be ready for training camp next season. Popovich signed a contract extension and the Spurs brought back Boris Diaw, Patty Mills and Matt Bonner to try to do just about the only thing this remarkably enduring franchise has yet to do -- repeat as champions.
Parker was set to enter next season on the final year of his contract at the bargain price of $12.5 million. But taking less money to keep the core together is something the Spurs' stars have been doing for years, so it's no surprise that the Spurs were able to retain Parker with a quiet negotiation and easy agreement on a deal that will take him through 2017-18.
With all the work the Spurs have done this offseason, there still is one big thing that needs to be addressed.
NBA Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard is eligible for an extension on his rookie deal, and Popovich has already dubbed him the player who will take over the franchise when Duncan finally decides to retire.
There is plenty of time to address that issue. The Spurs have until Oct. 31 to sign Leonard to a new deal.
Paul George suffered a serious leg injury at the Team USA practice scrimmage game today.
I don't see how Chicago hasn't told Rose he needs to sit his happy butt down.
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Paul George suffers serious injury
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QuoteLAS VEGAS -- Indiana Pacers star Paul George suffered a gruesome lower right leg fracture during the U.S. national team's intrasquad scrimmage at UNLV on Friday and underwent successful surgery later that night.
In a statement released after surgery was completed, USA Basketball confirmed George suffered an open tibia-fibula fracture and is expected to remain hospitalized for about three days. Dr. Riley Williams, a Team USA orthopedist who also works with the Brooklyn Nets, was with George.
Sources close to the situation told ESPN that while there was no additional damage besides the fractures, doctors believe George likely will miss all of next season, though no official prognosis has been given.
George's leg landed and then buckled at the base of the basket stanchion after he fouled James Harden on a drive to the basket just 27 seconds into the fourth quarter.
Nearby teammates immediately reacted, with Harden doubling over as George recoiled on the baseline.
Medics, U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski and members of George's family who were at the game rushed to his side.
His right leg was put in an air cast, and he was taken to a Las Vegas hospital after being treated for about 15 minutes on the court. His family members accompanied him there.
George later took to Twitter:
The Pacers issued a statement Saturday about George's injury and prognosis.
"It is way too early to speculate on his return as the No. 1 priority for everyone will be his recovery. Our initial discussions with our doctors and the doctors in Las Vegas have us very optimistic," president of basketball operations Larry Bird said. "There is no question about the impact on our team but our goal is to be as strong-willed and determined as Paul will be in coming back. ... Any discussion regarding the future of our team would be inappropriate at this time. Our focus is solely on Paul and doing whatever we can to help."
After George left in an ambulance Friday night, the rest of the game -- a showcase scrimmage between players in camp for the U.S. as it looks to trim its roster ahead of the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain that begins Aug. 30 -- was canceled.
The White team led George's Blue team 81-71 at the time. The game took place at UNLV's Thomas & Mack Center, and a source said the league is investigating the placement of the basket stanchion there. The league standard is for the stanchion and any photographers to be four feet from the baseline, according to a league official. The stanchion appeared to be closer than a normal NBA arena, but very close to the four-foot standard.
"This is a tough blow, not only for USA basketball but for the Indiana Pacers," Colangelo said. "And so as an organization we're just going to let a little time go by here before we address rosters. ... It seems so unimportant in the scheme of things. When you have something like this, it puts things in perspective."
George was considered a lock to make the final 12-man roster for the World Cup.
The Americans planned to reduce the 20-player pool to 14 or 15 players Saturday but put off those plans after George's injury.
"Everything's on hold, and it should be," Krzyzewski said. "It would be so inappropriate for us to talk about anything else when there is an injury like this."
No Team USA players were made available afterward. They walked out of the locker room and straight to the team bus.
Reaction to George's injury among his NBA colleagues was immediate, with fellow All-Stars LeBron James and Dwyane Wade among those taking to Twitter to express their concern:
Fellow U.S. teammates Harden and Kevin Durant also addressed the injury on Twitter:
George, 24, had emerged as one of the top all-around players in the NBA. The two-time All-Star averaged 21.7 points, 6.8 rebounds, 3.5 assists and 1.9 steals per game last season.
"It was difficult to watch the injury that Paul George sustained tonight while representing his country," NBA commissioner Adam Silver said in a statement. "The thoughts and prayers of all of us at the NBA are with Paul and his family."
Earlier this week, while with the U.S. team for camp, George acknowledged that a big NBA season for him awaited, especially after the Pacers' second-half fade in 2013-14.
"The eyes are on me this year," George said. "I've got a lot of pressure and I'm coming into this year ready to live up to that pressure."
George signed a five-year, $90 million extension with the Pacers last fall that was set to kick in this season.
The defending champion U.S. team, meanwhile, already had been weakened by player losses.
Forwards Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, LaMarcus Aldridge and NBA Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard all had pulled out in recent weeks.
George would have been a candidate to start for the Americans alongside Durant. The two, along with Harden, spent the week playing in one-on-one competitions after practice, pushing each other while building chemistry leading up to Friday night's game.
The U.S. is scheduled to take the next week off before reconvening in Chicago for its next practice Aug. 14.
Some NBA executives have long been concerned about injuries to players during summer competitions.
Pau Gasol, then playing for the Memphis Grizzlies, broke his foot while leading Spain to the 2006 world title, and Manu Ginobili injured his ankle while playing for Argentina in the 2008 Olympics. He is sitting out the World Cup while recovering from a stress fracture in his right leg.
"Anything can happen anywhere, a lot of things happen,'' said Krzyzewski, who was coaching Duke against Louisville when the Cardinals' Kevin Ware broke his leg during the 2013 NCAA tournament. "Tonight it happened during a basketball game. We need to take care of that. It doesn't mean it'll happen again and again and again; it means that it happened right now. And we need to take care of right now appropriately and then move on.''
Bird echoed that sentiment in his statement Saturday.
"We still support USA Basketball and believe in the NBA's goals of exposing our game, our teams and players worldwide," Bird said. "This is an extremely unfortunate injury that occurred on a highly visible stage, but could also have occurred anytime, anywhere."
San Antonio Dpurs have hired Becky Hammon as the first female assistant coach in NBA history.
Wolves, Cavs agree to Love trade
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QuoteThe Minnesota Timberwolves have reached an agreement in principle to trade Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers for No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins, 2013 No. 1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and a protected 2015 first-round draft pick, multiple media outlets reported Thursday.
According to Yahoo! Sports, which initially reported the agreement, Love has committed to opt out of his contract in 2015 and re-sign with Cleveland next summer for five years and $120 million-plus.
The trade cannot be finalized until Aug. 23 because players cannot be traded until 30 days after signing a new contract. Wiggins signed a rookie contract on July 24.
Sources have told ESPN.com that Love has been highly intrigued by the idea of playing alongside Olympic teammate LeBron James on a full-time basis and is not put off by the fact that James' contract with the Cavs spans only two seasons and includes a player option to return to free agency next summer.
NBA Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas reacted to news of the trade agreement on Twitter by crediting James for his influence in getting Love to Cleveland.
Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor told the St. Paul Pioneer Press last weekend that a trade of Love was likely by Aug. 23 or Aug. 24, coinciding with the first day Wiggins can be traded.
Wiggins, when asked Sunday about the uncertainty over his future, told ESPN that he wants to play where he's wanted. The Cavs signed Wiggins to his rookie contract, which averages about $5.5 million annually.
"I just want to play for a team that wants me. So whichever team wants me I'll play for," he told ESPN's "SportsCenter" from Tarrytown, New York, where he was taking part in a photo shoot for Panini trading cards.
Although the Cavs would prefer to keep Wiggins, their interest in Love is understandable given how well the big man's combination of elite rebounding, passing and long-range shooting ability could complement James' game. With Love in addition to James and point guard Kyrie Irving, Cleveland would rank as an undeniable favorite to win the Eastern Conference, something the Cavs managed only once in James' initial seven-season stint with his home-state franchise.
Looks like the Minnesota Canadawolves is gonna be my new neutral team.
I like the Wolves. They got Pekovic, Dieng, Shabazz Mohammed, Shved, Ricky Rubio, Budinger, Kevin Martin, Mo Williams, and Dante Cunningham. There's some good talent there.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 07, 2014, 02:00:06 PM
I like the Wolves. They got Pekovic, Dieng, Shabazz Mohammed, Shved, Ricky Rubio, Budinger, Kevin Martin, Mo Williams, and Dante Cunningham. There's some good talent there.
Wiggins is automatically their best player. Has Rubio even figured out how to shoot a jumper correctly?
Quote from: PapaPancho on August 07, 2014, 06:42:16 PM
Wiggins is automatically their best player. Has Rubio even figured out how to shoot a jumper correctly?
I disagree. I think Dieng is the one that will emerge into a star. As for Rubio probably not.
CLEVELAND
The bonus...for any Raptors fan hoping Wiggins comes to Toronto, there's a very real chance he might once his deal is up, to get out of Minnesota.
Or at least that's the hope lol
Everybody wants out of Minnesota, lol.
Quote from: PapaPancho on August 07, 2014, 06:42:16 PM
Wiggins is automatically their best player. Has Rubio even figured out how to shoot a jumper correctly?
Rubio is not there to score. He's there to facilitate the offense and feed the scorers (not that they had any outside of Love). With Wiggins, Martin, and Bennett he has a few more options to work with.
Quote from: JustinP on August 07, 2014, 07:16:30 PM
Rubio is not there to score. He's there to facilitate the offense and feed the scorers (not that they had any outside of Love). With Wiggins, Martin, and Bennett he has a few more options to work with.
Except for three things:
1) The knock on Wiggins is that his offense still need work, unlike Parker who will be putting up 18-21 a night Wiggins is going to struggle on offense.
2) Kevin Martin is the next to go, along with JJ Barea.
3) Bennett sucked last year and played well in the summer league where a #1 pick played against guys who probably won't make rosters.
Rubio isn't there to score, but he may be forced too, and that will be a problem.
Quote from: JustinP on August 07, 2014, 07:16:30 PM
Rubio is not there to score. He's there to facilitate the offense and feed the scorers (not that they had any outside of Love). With Wiggins, Martin, and Bennett he has a few more options to work with.
I know you love the natural PG role ... but when your not even a threat on the perimeter to shoot the open J and the team can cheat off you on defense. It's what teams used to do to Jason Kidd, Tony Parker, Rajon Rondo ... he has to step his game up.
CHAMP SPURS, LEBRON, BIG ALL-STAR BREAK HIGHLIGHT NBA'S 2014-15 SCHEDULE
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QuoteAfter a familiar in-state Texas wrestling match to tip things off, the champion San Antonio Spurs will be living out of their suitcases for much of the first couple of weeks of the new NBA season. That's just one of the wrinkles in the 2014-15 schedule, released Wednesday.
The 1,230-game marathon includes, for the first time in history, an extended All-Star break. The last games before the break are scheduled for Thursday, Feb. 12, and the first ones after the hiatus won't tip until Thursday, Feb. 19. The 64th NBA All-Star Game will be held Feb. 15 at Madison Square Garden in New York.
Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and a Spurs cast that includes 10 international players will celebrate their title with the traditional banner raising and ring ceremony on Opening Night, Oct. 28, when they host the Dallas Mavericks at the AT&T Center. Also on the schedule that night will be Orlando at New Orleans and Houston at the L.A. Lakers. The Spurs-Mavs and Lakers-Rockets — with the likely return of Kobe Bryant — will be nationally televised by TNT.
Opening Night
October 28, 2014, Orlando at New Orleans, 8 p.m., League Pass
October 28, 2014, Dallas at San Antonio, 8 p.m., TNT
October 28, 2014, Houston at L.A. Lakers, 10:30 p.m., TNT
Once they get through Opening Night, though, the Spurs — who finished with the league's best road record last season — will be on the road for eight of their next 11 games. Included in that is a four-game blitz through all four California teams, consisting of a pair of back-to-back sets of Clippers-Warrior and Lakers-Kings.
Cleveland fans, ecstatic over the homecoming of LeBron James, will have to contain their excitement for a few days until the Cavaliers make their debut on Oct. 30 at Quicken Loans Arena against the New York Knicks. The Cavaliers will play the next night, too, at Chicago in Derrick Rose's first home game after missing all but 10 games in the last two seasons because of knee injuries. Rose will be joined in the Bulls lineup by Pau Gasol, who left the Lakers as a free agent over the summer.
The Spurs and Cavaliers will both be headline attractions in the NBA's annual Christmas Day spectacular that features five different matchups, coast-to-coast. San Antonio will be at home to face last season's Western Conference finals opponent, Oklahoma City (2 p.m. ET, ABC). James will make his first trip back to Miami, where he won two titles in four years with the Heat, for an afternoon game (5 p.m. ET, ABC) against friends Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and the Heat.
Christmas Day (All times listed are ET)
December 25, 2014, Washington at New York, 12 p.m., ESPN
December 25, 2014, Oklahoma City at San Antonio, 2 p.m., ABC
December 25, 2014, Cleveland at Miami, 5 p.m., ABC
December 25, 2014, L.A. Lakers at Chicago, 8 p.m., TNT
December 25, 2014, Golden State at L.A. Clippers, 10:30 p.m., TNT
San Antonio once again will face its annual Rodeo Trip, so named because the Spurs must vacate their arena for an extended stretch for the San Antonio Livestock Show & Rodeo. It's a nine-game stretch that will keep the Spurs off their home court from Feb. 6 until March 4. It is broken into two legs before and after the All-Star break. But the Spurs aren't the only team who face long stretches away from home.
The Brooklyn Nets, under new coach Lionel Hollins, will also straddle the break with eight consecutive games away from the Barclays Center. And the longest single road trip of the season belongs to the Clippers, who'll have an eight-game excursion Jan. 29-Feb. 9 through three different times zones that includes three sets of back-to-backs and ends up against potential playoff challengers at OKC and Dallas. The Clippers will also have to endure a seven-game trip starting Nov. 19 at Orlando that includes three back-to-backs. The Bulls, Philadelphia 76ers and Sacramento Kings also have seven-game road trips.
As part of the NBA's annual Martin Luther King Day celebration, four games will be nationally televised. The Detroit Pistons will play at Atlanta (2:30 ET, ESPN), followed by the Bulls at Cleveland (8 ET, TNT) and Lakers at Phoenix (10:30 ET, TNT). The Mavericks at Memphis (5 ET) will be shown on NBA TV.
Martin Luther King Day (All times listed are ET)
January 19, 2015, Minnesota at Charlotte, 2 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Philadelphia at Washington, 2 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Detroit at Atlanta, 2:30 p.m., ESPN
January 19, 2015, Boston at L.A. Clippers, 3:30 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Denver at Golden State, 4 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Dallas at Memphis, 5 p.m., NBA TV
January 19, 2015, Indiana at Houston, 5:30 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, New Orleans at New York, 5:30 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Toronto at Milwaukee, 8 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, Chicago at Cleveland, 8 p.m., TNT
January 19, 2015, Sacramento at Portland, 10 p.m., League Pass
January 19, 2015, L.A. Lakers at Phoenix, 10:30 p.m., TNT
The NBA Global Game schedule will again include two regular-season games played at international sites. The Timberwolves will face the Rockets at Mexico City Arena on Nov. 12 and the Bucks and Knicks will meet at London's O2 Arena on Jan. 15.
The teams with the toughest finishes to the season would seem to be Portland, Toronto and Washington. The Blazers wrap up their schedule with three of their last four on the road, including stops at potential playoff contenders Golden State, OKC and Dallas. The Raptors play six of their last eight on the road. The Wizards have five of their last six away, with a finale at Cleveland.
The regular season concludes on April 15. The 2015 NBA playoffs will begin Apr. 18.
The Bulls, Cavaliers and Thunder lead with 25 appearances on TNT, ESPN and ABC national telecasts, followed by the Clippers with 23, the Lakers with 20 and the Spurs and Warriors with 19 apiece.
NBA TV will show every team as part of a 97-game schedule that includes 22 Fan Night Games. Fans will vote on NBA.com each week to determine which games will appear on NBA TV for the Tuesday Fan Night Games.
Complete NBA National TV Schedule
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Shawn Marion is going to sign with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
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Thaddeus Young likely to Wolves
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The Minnesota Timberwolves expect to land Philadelphia's Thaddeus Young in addition to No. 1 overall draft pick Andrew Wiggins when they complete their long-anticipated trade to send Kevin Love to the Cleveland Cavaliers this weekend, according to NBA front-office sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Wolves -- either as part of a separate transaction with Philadelphia or by expanding their planned deal with the Cavaliers into a three-team trade -- are already operating under the premise that they are acquiring Young from the Sixers as Love's replacement.
ESPN.com reported in July that Wolves president and coach Flip Saunders had pinpointed Young as his preferred successor at power forward to Love, who officially can be dealt to the Cavaliers on Saturday, when the rookie Wiggins becomes eligible to be traded at last.
Although nothing can be finalized before Saturday, sources said Thursday that the Wolves are poised to surrender a future first-round pick along with the expiring contracts of Luc Richard Mbah A Moute and Alexey Shved to the Sixers for Young, who has two seasons left on his deal valued at $19.4 million.
The Wolves, sources said, already have verbally agreed to acquire Wiggins, 2013's No. 1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and a future first-round pick from the Cavs for Love. Minnesota would then have the option of flipping that first-rounder to Philadelphia, along with Mbah A Moute and Shved, for Young.
The Sixers tried to get Bennett as part of the Young transaction, sources said, but Minnesota was determined to keep the second-year forward to be a key piece in its rebuilding effort despite Bennett's disappointing rookie season with Cleveland.
Although the Cavs' 30-day waiting period to move Wiggins ends Saturday, sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that the teams can indeed schedule a trade call with the league that day despite the fact it's a weekend, meaning the Love trade can be completed at the earliest allowable date.
Sources say that news conferences to introduce Love and Wiggins with their respective new teams are unlikely before next week, after the various players involved in the transactions have had a chance to complete their physicals.
This story just about had me in tears.
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Yeah, that's just not going to happen.
Wolves announce Kevin Love-Andrew Wiggins trade in newspaper ad
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QuoteThe Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers and Philadelphia 76ers have yet to send out press releases, but it looks like the worst-kept secret in the NBA is about to be official. The Timberwolves took out an ad in the St. Paul Pioneer Press featuring the new additions to the team: Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett and Thaddeus Young.
Of course, Kevin Love is going to Cleveland and the Philadelphia 76ers are set to receive the Heat's 2015 first-round draft pick, Alexey Shved and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute in return for Young.
The league probably won't love the fact that this leaked early, but the trade can be completed anytime as of Saturday.
(HT: SB Nation)
Eric Bledsoe, Suns reach $70M deal
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QuoteThe Phoenix Suns have agreed to a five-year, $70 million contract with restricted free-agent guard Eric Bledsoe, sources told ESPN.com.
The deal is a culmination of months of talks and stalemates between the sides that ultimately resulted in Bledsoe getting the largest deal of any restricted free agent this offseason.
It represents a relief for both sides as the Suns are able to lock up one of their franchise cornerstones for the long term and Bledsoe gets security after his best season as a pro, averaging 17.7 points and 5.5 assists per game in his first season in Phoenix.
Bledsoe had planned to sign a one-year qualifying offer worth $3.7 million with the Suns at the end of this week had a deal not been reached so he could be an unrestricted free agent next year.
Movement on talks happened after the Minnesota Timberwolves made a final aggressive bid for Bledsoe when they attempted to reach a sign-and-trade deal with Phoenix last week.
The Wolves were prepared to give Bledsoe a four-year deal worth more than $60 million in such a trade, which strengthened Bledsoe's position that he would be a commodity in the market next year.
There has been some concern about Bledsoe's history of knee problems, which includes a torn meniscus last season that required surgery. The Suns, who are known for having one of the best training staffs in the league, offered Bledsoe a four-year deal at the start of free agency in July.
The disagreement was always over dollars, as the Suns opened with an offer of $12 million per season. Bledsoe ended up agreeing to a deal worth an average of $14 million per year.
With Bledsoe re-signed, the Suns will have one of the deepest backcourt rotations in the NBA with standout Goran Dragic, free-agent addition Isaiah Thomas and recent draft picks Archie Goodwin and Tyler Ennis.
Partnering with Dragic under a system installed by new coach Jeff Hornacek, Bledsoe helped the Suns to 48 wins last season after they won 25 in the 2012-13 season.
Zoran Dragic, Suns reach deal
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QuoteSlovenian shooting guard Zoran Dragic and the Phoenix Suns have agreed to terms on a two-year deal worth slightly more than $4 million, according to NBA front-office sources.
The sides signed off on the deal Thursday, and sources say Dragic already has initiated buyout proceedings with his club in Spain. One source told ESPN.com that the deal, which is fully guaranteed for the next two seasons, will pay $1 million to Unicaja Malaga to release Dragic from his Spanish contract, with the Suns expected to contribute $600,000 to that amount.
Dragic is expected to join the Suns and his older brother, Goran Dragic, next week. Phoenix then will have two brother combos: Marcus Morris and Markieff Morris, and the Dragics.
ESPN.com reported earlier this week that the Suns had emerged as the clear front-runners to sign Zoran Dragic, 25, with Phoenix naturally hopeful that the move will help convince Goran Dragic to stay in the desert in July 2015, when he opts out of his current contract to become an unrestricted free agent.
The Suns on Wednesday reached terms on a new five-year, $70 million contract with guard Eric Bledsoe and signed Isaiah Thomas away from Sacramento over the summer as well, but team officials have been adamant that they also hope to retain Goran Dragic, who earned third team All-NBA honors last season after nearly leading Phoenix to the playoffs in the ever-deep West.
During the 2014 FIBA Basketball World Cup, Zoran Dragic averaged 14.1 points in 26.3 minutes per game on 50 percent shooting from the field and 43.3 percent shooting from 3-point range. The 6-foot-5 emerged as an NBA prospect as a hard-nosed player and tough defender who, though presumably not quite big enough to slide over to small forward in the States, can be effective at the top level at both ends.
Kevin Durant fractures foot
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QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY -- Kevin Durant has a fractured foot and the NBA's MVP seems likely to be sidelined for at least the start of the season.
Durable Durant
Kevin Durant doesn't miss games very often, missing just six in the last five seasons. He leads the NBA in games, minutes and points during this time frame, trailing only LeBron James in win shares.
The Oklahoma City Thunder on Sunday said Durant informed the team of "discomfort" in his right foot after practice a day earlier. He underwent tests and the team said in a statement he was diagnosed with a "Jones" fracture -- a broken bone at the base of the small toe. It's unclear how the injury happened.
The Thunder said traditional treatment requires surgery, and recent NBA cases have resulted in a return to play in six to eight weeks.
"We are in the process of collaboratively evaluating the most appropriate next steps with Kevin, his representatives, and Thunder medical personnel," general manager Sam Presti said. "Until a course of action is determined, we are unable to provide a timeline specific to Kevin's case."
Presti was to discuss the injury at a news conference Sunday.
The Thunder open their season Oct. 29 at Portland. A six-week absence could have Durant back for the start of December, which would allow him to play about 65 games.
Indiana Pacers star Paul George, recovering from his own leg injury, tweeted support for Durant.
Durant won the scoring title last season, collected his first MVP award and led the Thunder to the Western Conference finals. He skipped playing for the U.S. national team in this summer's Basketball World Cup so he could get additional rest. He played in two preseason games before complaining of pain.
The Thunder were forced to play for nearly two months last season without their other All-Star, Russell Westbrook, because of a knee injury, but remained among the West's best because of Durant's brilliance.
He averaged 32 points, 7.4 points and 5.5 assists and was an overwhelming winner of MVP honors, ending LeBron James' bid for a third straight. Durant had a run of 41 consecutive games with at least 25 points, the third-longest streak in NBA history.
He has won four of the last five scoring titles, and was at his best during Westbrook's absence from late December through the All-Star break, averaging 35 points and 6.3 assists as the Thunder went 20-7.
Now it will be up to Westbrook to raise his game while Durant is sidelined, or the Thunder risk falling behind quickly in the powerful West.
Durant has been among the NBA's most durable players in recent years, missing just one game in each of the last two seasons and playing in all 66 during the lockout-shortened 2011-12 campaign, when Oklahoma City lost to Miami in the NBA Finals. He sought a break from his heavy workload this summer, dropping out of his commitment to the U.S. after taking part in the first week of their training camp.
Now he will sit down again.
He is too thin to continue to play the amount of minutes he does. It has started to catch up with him.
NBA is back! :)
Goran Dragic and Baby T scare his Suns teammates and coaches.
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Report: Celtics trade Rajon Rondo to Mavericks in 5-player deal
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QuoteThe Boston Celtics traded All-Star point guard Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks on Thursday, according to Yahoo! Sports/FOX Sports 1 NBA Insider Adrian Wojnarowski.
Rondo will be sent to Dallas along with Dwight Powell in exchange for Brandan Wright, Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, a 2015 first-round pick and a future second-round pick.
Rondo, who has been the subject of trade talks for a few years, spent his first nine-plus years in the NBA in Boston. Rondo, whose contract expires this summer, has averaged double digits in assists in three of his previous four seasons.
Rondo, who missed parts of the previous two seasons because of a torn ACL in 2013, helped the Celtics win a title in 2008 in his second year in the league. But the Celtics decided to break up the team's core in the summer of 2013, trading Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce to the Brooklyn Nets.
The Celtics floundered last season, finishing 28-54. They landed the No. 6 overall pick, which they used on point guard Marcus Smart in last June's draft.
It appears the Celtics are looking to go all in on rebuilding the roster, as general manager Danny Ainge tries to stockpile draft picks.
Rondo has been named to four All-Star teams and two First-Team All-Defensive teams.
Vet Corey Brewer joins Rockets
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QuoteThe Houston Rockets have acquired veteran swingman Corey Brewer from the Minnesota Timberwolves in a three-team trade also involving the Philadelphia 76ers, the teams announced Friday night.
The Wolves will receive shooting guard Troy Daniels from the Rockets, who used an $8 million trade exception they got from sending Jeremy Lin to the Los Angeles Lakers to facilitate the deal. Minnesota also gets protected second-round picks in 2015 and '16.
The Rockets will receive Alexey Shved from the 76ers, who in return get a 2015 second-round pick and the rights to Serhiy Lishchuk, a Ukraine native currently playing in Spain. The Sixers also get center Ronny Turiaf, who is out an extended period of time after undergoing hip surgery, from Minnesota.
Brewer had requested to go to a contender, and the Wolves had discussions with several teams over the past month, including the Cleveland Cavaliers and Los Angeles Clippers. The Wolves had given Brewer permission to talk with teams to set up a trade.
Brewer has a player option for 2015-16 worth $4.9 million and had expressed a willingness to waive it. He averaged 10.5 points, 3.9 rebounds and 2.3 steals in 24 games with the Wolves this season.
Earlier this week, sources told ESPN.com that the Timberwolves, beset with injuries and mired at the foot of the Western Conference with a record of 5-20, were again engaging contending teams in trade discussions for Brewer after making him available in mid-November and then abruptly pulling him off the market.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Wolves were in active trade discussions with multiple contending teams that had interest in Brewer, most notably Cleveland and Houston. But the Wolves took Brewer off the table soon thereafter, thanks largely to the loss of high-scoring swingman Kevin Martin to a broken wrist on top of the ankle injury that has sidelined point guard Ricky Rubio, feeling they were too short-handed to part with Brewer.
But Wolves coach and team president Flip Saunders, after calling Brewer "too valuable to trade" on Nov. 20, publicly acknowledged last week that the Wolves' many injuries and subsequent struggles to compete in the difficult West have forced Minnesota to concede that the team is shifting from a "retool" mode to a "rebuild."
The Rockets ultimately landed the 28-year-old. Houston has been known to covet Brewer since last season, with sources saying the Rockets had interest even before Brewer uncorked a career-high 51 points against them late last season. Rockets coach Kevin McHale drafted Brewer in Minnesota when he was the Wolves' general manager and, according to sources, spoke directly to Brewer last month when Minnesota gave Houston permission to do so.
The trade opens up playing time for 2013 first-round pick Shabazz Muhammad.
The Rockets also waived Francisco Garcia to make roster space.
Brewer was part of two NCAA title teams at Florida and, after going to Minnesota with the seventh overall pick in the 2007 draft, played on a championship team in the NBA with Dallas in 2011.
For his career, Brewer has averaged 10.0 points and 3.0 rebounds in 25.8 minutes per game.
Information from ESPN.com's Brian Windhorst and Marc Stein and The Associated Press is included in this report.
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Detroit Pistons waive Josh Smith
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QuoteThe Detroit Pistons on Monday waived veteran forward Josh Smith, who still had two years and at least $26 million remaining on his contract after this season.
The 29-year-old Smith was averaging 13.1 points, 7.2 rebounds and 4.7 assists per game this season.
"Our team has not performed the way we had expected throughout the first third of the season and adjustments need to be made in terms of our focus and direction," coach and team president Stan Van Gundy said in a statement.
"We are shifting priorities to aggressively develop our younger players while also expanding the roles of other players in the current rotation to improve performance and build for our future. As we expand certain roles, others will be reduced. In fairness to Josh, being a highly versatile 10-year veteran in this league, we feel it's best to give him his freedom to move forward. We have full respect for Josh as a player and a person."
If Smith clears waivers over the next 48 hours, he will have the right to go elsewhere as a free agent.
The Pistons acquired Smith as a free agent after the 2012-13 season. In 105 games with Detroit, he averaged 15.5 points, 6.9 rebounds and 3.7 assists.
Smith was drafted with the 17th overall selection in the 2004 NBA draft by the Atlanta Hawks.
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Sources: Josh Smith to Rockets
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QuoteWanting to play for a winning team with a chance to win the title, Josh Smith has decided to join the Houston Rockets, sources told ESPN.com's Chris Broussard on Wednesday.
The veteran forward, let go Monday by the Detroit Pistons less than halfway into his four-year, $54 million contract, cleared waivers Wednesday.
The Dallas Mavericks, Miami Heat, Sacramento Kings, Los Angeles Clippers and Memphis Grizzlies all had been listed as potential suitors for Smith's services.
The Rockets next take the court against the host Grizzlies at 8:30 p.m. Friday.
Houston is three games behind Golden State in the Western Conference standings and just a half-game behind Memphis for the 3 seed.
As ESPN.com's Marc Stein reported late Tuesday, Houston assured Smith that he would start if he joined the Rockets, which essentially clinched his decision.
The Rockets also had their biannual exception, valued at $2.1 million, to offer Smith, who is 29.
Sources said Wednesday that Smith made it known that he would only consider teams that would guarantee him a starting spot, which essentially made it a choice between Houston and Miami.
Houston center Dwight Howard also could have played a factor in Smith's decision. Howard, one of Smith's closest friends, played AAU basketball with Smith in Atlanta
Smith is averaging 13.1 points, 7.2 rebounds and 4.7 assists per game this season.
Smith will be playing for coach Kevin McHale, who signed a three-year extension on Wednesday.
Report: 3-way trade involves Dion Waiters, J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert
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QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers have a deal in place to trade shooting guard Dion Waiters to the Oklahoma City Thunder, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports.
ESPN's Brian Windhorst added that the Cavaliers are in three-way trade talks with the New York Knicks, with Wojnarowski reporting that J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert are headed to Cleveland.
Waiters was pulled from the Cavs' starting lineup moments before their game Monday night against the Philadelphia 76ers.
Knicks to deal Smith and Shumpert
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QuoteThe Cleveland Cavaliers, New York Knicks and Oklahoma City Thunder engineered a multi-faceted six-player trade Monday night, sources told ESPN.com.
As part of the deal, Dion Waiters will go to the Thunder, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert would go to the Cavs and three players with nonguaranteed contracts -- Alex Kirk and Lou Amundson from the Cavs and Lance Thomas from the Thunder -- would go to the Knicks. As part of the deal, the Thunder are sending a protected future first round pick to the Cavs and the Cavs are sending their 2019 second-round pick to the Knicks, sources said.
The Cavs are attempting to bolster their bench with the trade by adding Smith, a mercurial shooter, and Shumpert, who specializes in wing defense that the Cavs badly need. The Knicks had been attempting to trade both for some time.
Shumpert is currently out with a dislocated shoulder he suffered last month.
Team officials spoke with LeBron James about his willingness to play alongside Smith before executing the deal, sources said.
The Thunder, who used a trade exception to execute the deal, gain the offensively talented Waiters, who had struggled to fit at times over the past two-plus seasons. With Waiters the Thunder are adding some scoring off the bench and provide insurance for Reggie Jackson, their standout guard who is in the final year of his contract.
This trade for the Knicks was financially motivated both short term and long term. They have the option to waive all three players they traded for by Wednesday and not owe them anything. Sources told ESPN the team will also waive center Samuel Dalembert, a move that will save $3.8 million. In all, the moves to unload Shumpert, Smith and Dalembert will save the team more than $20 million in salary and luxury taxes.
J.R. Smith was the league's Sixth-Man of the Year two seasons ago, but is in the midst of his worst year since his second in the NBA.
Smith has a $6.4 million player option for next year but with that now off their books, the Knicks are looking at having in excess of $30 million in cap space next summer.
Waiters, 23, is averaging 10.5 points, 1.7 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 1.3 steals for the Cavs this season while shooting 40 percent from the field. He has one year left on his contract at $5.1 million.
Smith, 29, is averaging 10.9 points on 40 percent shooting from the floor in his 11th season.
Shumpert, 24, is averaging 9.3 points, 3.4 rebounds and 3.3 assists for the Knicks this season. He will be a restricted free agent next summer.
All three teams were in action Monday night with the Cavs losing at lowly Philadelphia, and the Knicks and Thunder playing at Memphis and Golden State, respectively.
Kevin Garnett ejected after head-butt
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Brooklyn Nets power forward Kevin Garnett was ejected from Monday night's game against the Houston Rockets after head-butting center Dwight Howard during their fight in the first quarter.
With 7:53 remaining, Garnett and Howard got tangled up as Howard was trying to catch a lob pass in the paint. Garnett pushed Howard, and Howard pushed back.
Garnett then threw the ball at Howard, got in his face, and head-butted him. Garnett added a push, and Howard responded by throwing a hand that hit Garnett in the neck. The two were then separated.
Multiple players and security personnel tried to hold Garnett back, but he attempted to go back after Howard.
After the officials reviewed the play, Garnett received a personal foul, both players received technical fouls and Garnett was ejected. Garnett may face additional discipline from the NBA for his actions.
Howard was booed by the Barclays Center crowd each time he touched the ball after the fight.
Howard spoke glowingly about Garnett before the game. Both players were drafted out of high school and became superstars.
"I mean, part of the reason I have the number that I have (No. 12) is because of him (Garnett used to wear No. 21)," Howard told ESPN.com. "I wanted to be just like him coming out of high school. When I was in high school I think I went to see him play one time, and it's just crazy because you watch the game, you don't see nothing special sometimes, but he'll end up with 25 (points) and 15 (rebounds). He's always been that intense guy that's gonna bring it every day at practice, and he really loves the game. And you can tell with his energy and effort. I think this is what, year 19? And he's still playing with the same intensity as year one."
Howard said Garnett is the best trash talker he's ever played against.
"Every time I play him he's always talking trash," Howard said. "He'll have you so upset by the end of the game. ... Most of the time, he's just talking to himself, but you just think he's talking to you, so it's crazy."
Howard said his favorite Garnett moment was the two of them jostling during the playoffs when Howard was in Orlando and Garnett was in Boston.
"I was hitting him in the stomach and squeezing his stomach, and he kept turning around and hitting me," Howard said. "So I kept doing it just to mess with him. And I didn't feel what he was doing -- like he was hitting me -- but I never felt it. So I just kept doing it, and then he did it, and then we kinda got into it. I was kinda like, 'What you gonna do about it?' Like it was crazy back-and-forth, but it's just fun trash talking. I'll never forget that."
Howard fondly recalled how Garnett reacted during the game after Garnett's friend and mentor, Malik Sealy, died in a car accident in 2000.
"He caught a rebound and dunked it in real hard and he pointed up to the sky," Howard said.
As a Celtics fan I love what KG brought to us, but at the same time I get why people hate him...
Jameer Nelson, Nate Robinson traded
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QuoteThe Denver Nuggets and Boston Celtics swapped backup point guards Tuesday in a deal that could eventually affect some contenders.
Nate Robinson will be going to Boston, though it is expected to be a temporary stay as he is expected to seek a buyout of his contract with the intention of signing with a playoff team.
Jameer Nelson, who was sent to Boston as part of the Rajon Rondo deal, will be going to Denver.
Robinson, who is coming back from an ACL tear, is averaging a career-low 5.8 points on a career-low 35 percent shooting in 33 games for the Nuggets.
He was sensational in the playoffs for the Chicago Bulls in 2012-13 playing in place of an injured Derrick Rose, averaging 16.3 points in 12 playoff games.
Teams who may be interested in Robinson if he is able to secure a buyout include the Los Angeles Clippers and Cleveland Cavaliers.
Nelson played in just six games for the Celtics and is averaging a career low 6.8 points on a career-low 34 percent shooting in 29 games with the Dallas Mavericks and Celtics.
He has a player option in his contract for next season for $2.8 million.
This is the second trade the Nuggets have executed in the last week as they begin to retool their roster. The Nuggets are involved in trade talks for other players including Arron Afflalo and Randy Foye, according to sources.
Greg Anthony, basketball analyst and former Knick, arrested for soliciting a prostitute: reports
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QuoteGreg Anthony, the former Knick and current basketball analyst, was arrested Friday for soliciting a prostitute in Washington D.C., according to multiple reports.
Anthony, who calls college games for CBS, was scheduled to work Saturday's Michigan State - Maryland game, which is scheduled for 4 p.m., with Ian Eagle.
There was no immediate information as to what CBS planned to do about the game Anthony is supposed to call.
The ABC affiliate in Washington D.C., WJLA, was the first to report Anthony was busted in the hooker sting operation.
Anthony, who played for the Knicks from 1991-95, also works for Turner Sports. WJLA also reported that Anthony was in lockup late Friday night.
Anthony, who won an NCAA championship with UNLV in 1990, played for six different teams during his 10-year NBA career.
He's had a successful post-playing career as a broadcaster, and even worked the 2014 Final Four.
Forbes: Team values rose 72 percent
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QuoteBoosted by Steve Ballmer's league-record $2 billion purchase of the Los Angeles Clippers, the franchise values of NBA teams rose an average of 72 percent in one year, according to new estimates released by Forbes on Wednesday.
That's the biggest one-year value gain since Forbes started estimating team prices in 1998.
Last year's list had only three teams -- the New York Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and Chicago Bulls -- worth more than $1 billion, but this year, Forbes says those three teams are worth at least $2 billion. And eight other teams are worth more than $1 billion.
The magazine says the Lakers top the league at a $2.6 billion valuation, followed by the Knicks ($2.5 billion) and the Bulls ($2 billion). Even though Ballmer paid $2 billion for the Clippers, Forbes values the team at $1.6 billion, fifth among teams, immediately following the fourth-ranked Boston Celtics ($1.7 billion).
The Brooklyn Nets (who are currently on the market) came in sixth at $1.5 billion, followed by the Golden State Warriors ($1.3 billion), Houston Rockets ($1.25 billion), Miami Heat ($1.175 billion), Dallas Mavericks ($1.15 billion) and San Antonio Spurs ($1 billion). Last year, when Forbes valued the Mavs at $765 million, owner Mark Cuban called it "way too low," saying it was worth more than $1 billion.
The Atlanta Hawks, another team currently for sale, are worth $825 million. Michael Jordan hasn't had an easy road as owner of Charlotte's NBA team, but the former great certainly is in a good position financially. What he paid $275 million for five years ago is now worth $725 million, according to Forbes.
Another team that has struggled on the court has also seen its value rise significantly. Josh Harris and his partners paid $280 million less than four years ago for the Philadelphia 76ers. Under his ownership, the team has gone 96-175 (.354), but Forbes said the team is now worth $420 million more than Harris paid for it.
In October, the league announced new television deals with ESPN and Turner that are worth $2.66 billion a year. That's a 186 percent increase from its current TV rights deal, which averages $930 million a year.
It's funny how 3 of the top 4 in value suck this year.
Quote from: Gravedigger on January 21, 2015, 11:08:47 PM
It's funny how 3 of the top 4 in value suck this year.
Lol yeah they're big market teams is why.
I wouldn't call Boston a big market like LA or NY, but they have the historical fanbase.
Quote from: Gravedigger on January 22, 2015, 12:07:30 AM
I wouldn't call Boston a big market like LA or NY, but they have the historical fanbase.
It's in the top 10 markets in the US though.
NEW FACES, NEW PLACES FOR ALL-STAR STARTERS
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QuoteNEW YORK CITY — The 2015 All-Star Game will feature several first-time starters, as well several players making return All-Star appearances while representing new places. But perhaps the most surprising news from the All-Star voting results is a changing of the guard atop the polls.
Cleveland's LeBron James, last season's overall vote-getting leader while a member of the Miami Heat, led the voting through each of the initial voting updates this season. But a late push from Golden State's Stephen Curry made the Warriors guard the overall leader, with 1,513,324 votes to James' 1,470,483.
The other big surprise in final voting totals was the rise of Toronto's Kyle Lowry. In the first voting totals, announced on Christmas Day, Lowry was in fourth among Eastern Conference guards, behind Washington's John Wall, Miami's Dwyane Wade and Cleveland's Kyrie Irving. Irving started last season's game for the Eastern Conference and went on to win the All-Star Game MVP.
In the most recent results, announced two weeks ago, Lowry had leapfrogged Irving to move into third place but was still over 100,000 votes behind Wade, with 406,974 votes to Wade's 507,326 . But the Raptors campaigned hard for Lowry, with social media support from people like hip-hop star Drake and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, which apparently rallied enough support to push the 28-year-old Lowry, who has never been an All-Star, into the starting lineup. Lowry finished with 805,290 votes to Wade's 789,839.
Last season's second-leading vote-getter was Oklahoma City's Kevin Durant, with 1,396,294 votes. Durant went on to win his first NBA MVP award. But Durant has missed 23 of OKC's 42 games this season while recovering from a foot fracture, while his teammate Russell Westbrook, himself a three-time All-Star, has missed 14 games with a hand injury.
For the second year in a row, forwards and centers were lumped into one frontcourt category. Each conference's starting five will include one of the Gasol brothers — Memphis' Marc for the West and Chicago's Pau for the East, in his first season as an Eastern Conference player. New Orleans big man Anthony Davis, who one year ago made his All-Star debut as a Western Conference reserve, will join Marc in the Western Conference starting lineup, giving the West plenty of size along the front line.
Some players are noticeable by their absence. Despite winning the NBA title in dominant fashion a season ago, no San Antonio Spurs players were named to the starting lineup in the West. And in the East, no Atlanta Hawks charted among the top five, even though the Hawks currently are 35-8 and have a six game lead atop the Eastern Conference.
Houston's James Harden probably has the best claim to a starting spot among those not voted to the starting fives. Harden currently leads the NBA in points per game at 27.2 per night. This year he was the only player over a million votes (1,069,368) not to make the starting lineup.
But could history repeat itself? Last season Harden was selected as an injury replacement for Kobe Bryant in the Western
Conference starting lineup, and the announcement earlier today that Kobe Bryant suffered a torn rotator cuff last night puts his participation this year in doubt. If Bryant is unable to play, the Western Conference All-Star coach, Steve Kerr, will select his replacement in the starting lineup from among the players selected as reserves, where Harden would seem to be a lock. The reserves will be announced next Thursday night, Jan. 29.
Golden State's Kerr will be the first rookie coach to coach in an All-Star Game since Larry Bird in 1998. Atlanta's Mike Budenholzer, who is just in his second year as an NBA head coach, will coach the Eastern Conference All-Stars.
The 64th NBA All-Star Game will be exclusively televised on TNT from Madison Square Garden on Sunday, Feb. 15.
THE EAST
Frontcourt
LeBron James, Cavaliers — No surprise that the league's reigning best all-around player made the cut. After flipping from Miami to Cleveland in the offseason and a slow start with the Cavs, James recently sat out 8 games to recuperate from nagging injuries. In five games since returning, King James has averaged 30.6 ppg, 7.0 rpg and 6.0 apg.
Carmelo Anthony, Knicks — This must be a high point in an otherwise rough season for Anthony, who has averaged 24 ppg and 6.7 rpg in 33 games for the woeful Knicks, who are just 7-36 on the season. Anthony will likely be the only New York or Brooklyn representative in the game.
Pau Gasol, Bulls — After 13 seasons in the Western Conference with the Grizzlies and Lakers, a move East to Chicago has vaulted Gasol into his first All-Star game since 2011, and the first All-Star start of his career. It's well-deserved: At 34 years old, Gasol is averaging 18.7 ppg along with a career-high 11.4 rpg.
Backcourt
John Wall, Wizards — After making his first All-Star appearance one year ago as a reserve, this season Wall was voted in as the leader among Eastern Conference guards. The 24-year-old Wall is having a breakout season, leading the Wiz to a 29-14 record while averaging 17 ppg and leading the NBA at 10 apg.
Kyle Lowry, Raptors — In his ninth NBA season, for the last few seasons Lowry has been the Eastern Conference player probably most deserving of an All-Star nod that never came. This season, Lowry is averaging 19.8 ppg, 7.5 apg and 4.9 rpg, career highs across the board.
THE WEST
Frontcourt
Blake Griffin, Clippers — All-Star Weekend is nothing new for Griffin — he's been a participant every year since 2011, the same year he won the Slam Dunk Contest by leaping over a car. But his game has evolved over the years, using less power and more touch. This season Griffin is averaging 23 ppg and 7.6 rpg for the 28-14 Clippers.
Marc Gasol, Grizzlies — The younger Gasol brother has made just one previous All-Star appearance, in 2012. But Gasol was named the Defensive Player of the Year last season, and this season has assumed a central role in the Memphis attack, posting 8.2 rpg along with a career-high 19.3 ppg.
Anthony Davis, Pelicans – The Unibrow is officially among the NBA elite. After a summer anchoring the gold medal-winning
USA Basketball team in the FIBA Basketball World Cup, Davis has continued his strong play into the season. The versatile 21-year-old seven-footer, in just his third NBA season, is currently averaging a double-double, with 24.3 ppg to go with 10.4 rpg, as well as leading the league with 2.9 blocks a night.
Backcourt
Stephen Curry, Warriors – Thus far this season, Curry has been the best player for the league's best team. In his sixth NBA season, Curry is averaging 23.2 ppg and 8.1 apg for the Warriors, who began the season 16-0 and are currently 34-6 overall.
Kobe Bryant, Lakers — After sitting out last year's game while recovering from an Achilles tendon injury, the Mamba was again selected an All-Star starter, although like last season, an injury could curtail his participation. Even at 36 years old, the 16-time All-Star has remained effective, averaging 22.3 points per game this season in 35 appearances.
Glad to see Lowry in there this season.
Lowry getting in shouldn't be a surprise. There should be some Atlanta Hawks on the Eastern team for sure.
Quote from: GM Franchise on January 22, 2015, 09:22:38 PM
Lowry getting in shouldn't be a surprise. There should be some Atlanta Hawks on the Eastern team for sure.
But who? There isn't one player worthy of being on the team.
Quote from: J-Reb on January 22, 2015, 09:38:41 PM
But who? There isn't one player worthy of being on the team.
Jeff Teague, Al Horford, Paul Millsap, and Kyle Korver are all viable options.
Quote from: GM Franchise on January 22, 2015, 09:41:45 PM
Jeff Teague, Al Horford, Paul Millsap, and Kyle Korver are all viable options.
Teague would be the 5th or 6th guard in the East, IMO. Horford is a possibility. But Millsap and Korver shouldn't even sniff an all-star game.
Quote from: J-Reb on January 22, 2015, 09:42:36 PM
Teague would be the 5th or 6th guard in the East, IMO. Horford is a possibility. But Millsap and Korver shouldn't even sniff an all-star game.
Just quickly glancing through the list of guards - I'd pick Dwayne Wade, Kyrie Irving, Jimmy Butler, Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight, and Derrick Rose. So, 7th for me.
Quote from: J-Reb on January 22, 2015, 09:42:36 PM
Teague would be the 5th or 6th guard in the East, IMO. Horford is a possibility. But Millsap and Korver shouldn't even sniff an all-star game.
Korver is on pace to have the greatest shooting season in NBA history. He should be considered for that.
Quote from: GM Franchise on January 22, 2015, 09:22:38 PM
Lowry getting in shouldn't be a surprise.
Being a Toronto sports fan, I don't assume anything until it's official.
Klay Thompson scored 37 points in a quarter tonight...37!
Watch every shot of Klay Thompson's record-breaking 37-point quarter
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QuoteKlay Thompson had a nice little first half. Then the third quarter started and Klay ignited, flames engulfing his person from head to toe. Here's all of it:
He started the period with 13 points and ended it with FIFTY points. This may honestly be the densest hot streak in the history of professional basketball. It was like watching an atom break on the hardwood.
The stats and records and outpourings of awe:
- 37 is the record for points in a single quarter, destroying the record of 33 held by George Gervin and Carmelo Anthony.
- NINE three-pointers is the record for threes in a quarter, breaking the mark of 8 set by Michael Redd and Joe Johnson.
- Klay went 13-for-13 in the quarter, tying the record for field goals in a quarter set by David Thompson.
- Here is the most beautiful single-quarter shot chart you'll ever see:
klay
Not an X to be found.
- In the final seconds of the third, Thompson decided to pass and I punched myself in the forehead because I was so angry at him for doing so. On the very last possession of the quarter, someone fouled him, and he went ahead and buried a jumper that coooould have counted for continuation. Instead, he just hit both free throws.
- After hitting free throws for points 51 and 52 in the fourth quarter, Klay missed a shot and I vomited.
- The Kings had 22 points in the period to Thompson's 37. The Kings are a whole basketball team.
- And yeah, he ended that game by himself:
- All Stephen Curry could do is laugh:
- Imagine being that human being's father. Man, Mychal Thompson must be having the night of his life:
- You don't have to be his dad to lose your damn mind over this. NBA players around the league did so much screaming:
And in closing, here's Klay checking out his stat sheet:
wtf
"Oh, sweet, I blacked out for 10 minutes and wrote the Bible."
MOST POINTS IN A QUARTER
37- Klay Thompson
33- George Gervin
33- Carmelo Anthony
32- David Thompson
31- Wilt Chamberlain
Clay Thompson is a beast!
PISTONS' JENNINGS SUFFERS LEG INJURY
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QuoteBrandon Jennings, a driving force as the Pistons recovered from a terrible start to win 12 of 15 games and get in the Eastern Conference playoff picture, suffered an undisclosed leg injury Saturday night in Milwaukee.
"It doesn't look good," coach Stan Van Gundy said after the Bucks' 101-86 victory.
There was no further word on the specific injury or the potential severity. More will be known after follow-up examinations, but Vincent Goodwill Jr. wrote in the Detroit News that "Bucks point guard Brandon Knight pushed off Jennings to receive an inbounds pass in the third quarter Saturday night, then Jennings' left leg appeared to give out on him — as he writhed in pain on the baseline, yelling out and spinning on the floor multiple times before team medical personnel were able to get to him.
"Jennings could put no weight on his leg as he was helped off the floor, possibly ending his recent resurgence — and facing the possibility of a long recovery from what could be a torn Achilles."
Jennings later posted on Twitter: "We gotta just keep pushin' WE (Pistons) worked to hard to get down about anything right now. We gotta stay focus on the main Goal. Playoffs!"
He did not mention the injury.
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Strong belief within the Pistons that guard Brandon Jennings tore his Achilles tonight, but won't know for sure until MRI on Sunday.
Steph Curry to enter 3-point contest
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QuoteThe Golden State Warriors' backcourt duo of Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson highlight a group of five players who plan to participate in next month's All-Star 3-point contest, Yahoo! Sports has reported.
The Los Angeles Clippers' J.J. Redick confirmed that he will compete, and the report, citing league sources, said Atlanta's Kyle Korver and Portland's Wesley Matthews will join in.
"It's something that I've always wanted to participate in at least once in my career," Redick said Monday night. "I don't know if I've been in the conversation but I'm just excited and honored to be a part of All-Star Weekend."
The group makes up five of the top seven shooters in the NBA in 3-pointers made, with Matthews' 138 leading the league.
"It's a good field," Redick said. "You have to post a high score this year. I've watched a couple years at home and, um, it's not the best field ... just saying. Not the best field. You have non-shooters winning, but I think the NBA put together a great field this year. Hopefully everybody shoots well and it's a good show."
James Harden of the Houston Rockets (122) and Damian Lillard of the Portland Trail Blazers (120) are fifth and sixth. Harden leads the NBA in scoring average at 27.6 points per game.
Korver, shooting 53 percent, tops the NBA in 3-point accuracy with Thompson in third at 46 percent.
Curry made a late surge to pass LeBron James as the overall leading vote-getter for the All-Star Game and will start for the West.
The Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, is hosting this year's NBA All-Star Weekend, set for Feb. 13-15.
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NBA reveals dunk contest lineup
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QuoteMilwaukee's Giannis Antetokounmpo, Minnesota's Zach LaVine, Orlando's Victor Oladipo and Brooklyn's Mason Plumlee will be the contestants in the 2015 Sprite Slam Dunk contest, the NBA announced Tuesday night.
Plumlee tweeted he was "thrilled" to be taking part in the contest:
LaVine also relayed a message via Twitter:
The dunk contest will be Feb. 14 at Barclays Center, part of NBA All-Star Weekend in New York. The All-Star Game will be Feb. 15 at Madison Square Garden.
This year's dunk contest will feature two rounds and no time limits. Each player will get two dunks in the first round, with the two players with the highest combined scores advancing to the final round. The two finalists also will get two dunks apiece in the head-to-head round.
There is a three-attempt maximum for each dunk. The event will feature five judges, who will score each dunk on a scale of 6 to 10, for a low score of 30 and a high score of 50.
The 2014 dunk contest champion was the Washington Wizards' John Wall.
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Kobe Bryant expected out 9 months
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QuoteEL SEGUNDO, Calif. -- Kobe Bryant is officially done for the season after having surgery to repair his torn right rotator cuff Wednesday.
The Los Angeles Lakers also made it official that their superstar doesn't believe his career is finished.
Bryant is expected to need nine months to recover from his third straight season-ending injury. If Bryant meets that timetable, he could return to basketball shortly before the start of the 2015-16 season -- and the Lakers expect to see him in purple and gold again.
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I think the biggest thing with Kobe, as long as [the media are] saying that he's done, he's going to come back. I think he proved his point this year that he still has a lot left in the tank. He's still one of the best players in the league.
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- Lakers coach Byron Scott
Neal ElAttrache and Steve Lombardo performed the two-hour surgery at the Kerlan Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic in Los Angeles.
"I expect Kobe to make a full recovery, and if all goes as expected, he should be ready for the start of the season," ElAttrache said in a statement provided by the Lakers.
The Lakers formally declared Bryant out for the season by acknowledging the expected recovery time for his injury but also effectively confirmed he won't retire and will attempt to play his 20th season in the fall. Bryant, who will be 37 years old this summer, is the NBA's highest-paid player at $23.5 million this season, and he is under contract for $25 million next year.
"In my mind right now, he's coming back next year, unless he tells me something different," coach Byron Scott said at practice Wednesday.
Of Bryant's impending rehabilitation, Scott added, "It's pretty painful from what I've heard, and the rehab is long."
"But I think the biggest thing with Kobe, as long as [the media are] saying that he's done, he's going to come back," Scott said. "I think he proved his point this year that he still has a lot left in the tank. He's still one of the best players in the league."
Scott already had acknowledged Bryant was highly unlikely to play again this season for the flailing Lakers (12-34), who will match their franchise record for futility if they lose their 10th consecutive game when the Chicago Bulls visit Thursday. But if Los Angeles finishes with a top-five draft pick, the club won't have to give its first-round choice to Phoenix until next year to complete its trade for Steve Nash in 2012.
Bryant hurt his right shoulder while dunking last week in New Orleans, deciding Monday on surgery. He is the third-leading scorer in league history and a five-time NBA champion.
"I feel like I just returned a 100 yard kickoff in the last two minutes of the Super Bowl to win it all only to have my run called back by a flag on the play," Bryant said Tuesday night in a post on The Players' Tribune.
Bryant averaged 22.3 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.6 assists in 35 games but made a career-worst 37.3 percent of his shots in a wildly inconsistent 19th season. He also passed Michael Jordan for third place on the NBA's career scoring list, trailing only Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Karl Malone.
Bryant's popularity hasn't waned during his injury-plagued stretch. He was voted to the All-Star Game for the 17th time this month, and he is still the Lakers' public face despite his recent prolonged absences from the court.
Bryant missed the 2013 playoffs after tearing his Achilles tendon late in the regular season, and he played in just six games last season before breaking a bone near his left knee. Although he has played through innumerable injuries in the past, the accumulated wear from nearly two decades in the NBA has caught up to him.
Bryant sat out eight games to rest in the past month, and he played under a strict minutes limit. It wasn't enough to protect him from another major injury.
Bryant joins Nash, first-round pick Julius Randle and swingman Xavier Henry with season-ending injuries already for the Lakers.
Klay Thompson a first-time All-Star
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QuoteGolden State's Klay Thompson, Chicago's Jimmy Butler and Atlanta's Jeff Teague are first-time NBA All-Stars after being selected by coaches in their respective conferences.
The league announced Thursday night that Teague is one of three members of the 38-8 Atlanta Hawks to make the Eastern Conference squad alongside teammates Al Horford and Paul Millsap.
But Sacramento Kings big man DeMarcus Cousins -- one of just three players in the league averaging better than 20 points and 10 rebounds per game alongside West starter Anthony Davis and reserve LaMarcus Aldridge -- and Portland Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard were the most prominent players snubbed by the coaches in the packed West.
Aldridge, San Antonio's Tim Duncan and Oklahoma City star Kevin Durant earned frontcourt spots ahead of Cousins, with Durant, as the league's reigning MVP, getting the nod from West coaches despite playing in only 21 of the Thunder's first 46 games this season because of injuries.
Houston's James Harden, Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook and the Los Angeles Clippers' Chris Paul also are West reserves.
The season-ending shoulder injury suffered by the Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant means NBA commissioner Adam Silver will be charged with choosing Bryant's replacement. Western Conference coach Steve Kerr will have the right to choose who starts in Bryant's place, with Harden and Thompson believed to be in pole position to step in.
Joining Horford, Millsap, Teague and Butler as Eastern Conference reserves are Cleveland's Kyrie Irving and the Miami duo of Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade.
Yet, with the Heat announcing Thursday that Wade is "out indefinitely" because of a hamstring problem, it's likely that Silver will also have to select a replacement for him in the East.
As it stands, Cousins and Lillard are joined on the list of prominent snubs in the West by the Memphis duo of Zach Randolph and Mike Conley, Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki, Monta Ellis and Tyson Chandler, Houston's Dwight Howard, San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers' DeAndre Jordan.
Prominent snubs in the East include Atlanta's Kyle Korver, Orlando's Nikola Vucevic, Cleveland's Kevin Love, Charlotte's Kemba Walker and Al Jefferson, Detroit's Greg Monroe and Brandon Jennings, and Milwaukee's Brandon Knight.
Head coaches in each conference had to vote for two guards, three frontcourt players and two players regardless of position. They couldn't vote for players on their own teams.
The All-Star Game starters were announced last week after fan voting.
Adam Silver says NBA will consider taking top 16 teams for the playoffs
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QuoteAs the three-team race for the final seed in the Western Conference playoffs heats up, there's bound to be more attention on the imbalance that exists between the NBA's two conferences. The West has been noticeably stronger for 14 years, but the NBA has remained steadfast in sticking with the current system that sends the top eight teams in each conference to the postseason.
Perhaps that will change sometime soon. In an interview with Warriors broadcasters during Golden State's game with the Dallas Mavericks on Wednesday night, Commissioner Adam Silver was asked if the league would look into changing which teams make the playoffs. Here's his response:
"Ultimately we want to see your best teams in the playoffs," Silver said. "And there is an unbalance and a certain unfairness. There is a proposal where the division winners would all automatically go into the playoffs and then you'd seed the next 10 best teams. I think that's the kind of proposal we need to look at. There are travel issues of course, but in this day in age every team of course has their own plane, travels charter. I don't think the discussion should end there. And as I've said, my first year I was studying a lot of these issues and year two is time to take action. It's something I'm going to look at closely with the competition committee. I do think it's an area where we need to make a change."
Silver has publicly discussed several changes during his short time as commissioner, from raising the age limit to enter the draft to a potential midseason tournament.
At the moment, the Suns, Thunder and Pelicans are each above .500 and chasing one playoff spot in the West. Over in the East, the Charlotte Hornets are the No. 7 seed at 21-27 and the Miami Heat are the eighth seed at 21-28. Our own Tom Ziller has offered a proposal to fix conference imbalance.
STAR-STUDDED THREE-POINT SHOOTOUT FIELD HIGHLIGHTS ALL-STAR SATURDAY NIGHT
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Quote[HANG TIME BIG CITY — Forget East versus West. After two years of NBA All-Star Saturday Night pitting one conference against the other, this time, it's personal. And for once, long range marksmanship may trump dunks as the center of attraction.
Conference affiliations will be out the window on Saturday, Feb. 14, for the State Farm All-Star Saturday Night at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y. This year, it's every man and woman for themselves in the annual Saturday night showcase.
In the Degree Shooting Stars competition, the two-time defending championship team of Chris Bosh, Dominique Wilkins and Swin Cash will reunite. Although this is a shooting competition, Team Davis, made up of Anthony Davis, Scottie Pippen and Elena Delle Donne, will have unbelievable length. Other participants include Golden State's Stephen Curry and his father, retired guard Dell.
Eight players will compete in the Taco Bell Skills Challenge, a three-round, obstacle-course competition that tests dribbling, passing, agility and shooting skills. Seven of those players are point guards, including the defending champ, Utah's Trey Burke, as well as All-Stars Kyle Lowry, Jeff Teague and John Wall. The lone non-point guard in the field is Chicago's Jimmy Butler, an All-Star swingman with well-rounded skills.
The Sprite Slam Dunk field was announced a few weeks ago. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Zach LaVine, Victor Oladipo and
Mason Plumlee bring an energetic edge to the proceedings this season. Brooklyn's Plumlee is the lone active NBA player with New York ties participating on Saturday night.
Yet even with the loaded dunk field, it may be tough to top the Foot Locker Three-Point Contest, which is this year stocked with sharpshooters ...
Marco Belinelli, Spurs — Last year's defending champ, Belinelli has played just 30 games this season due to injury. Belinelli has the lowest 3-point percentage (38.2) of any player in the Three-Point Contest field.
Stephen Curry, Warriors — Drained 10 3-pointers Wednesday night in a 51-point performance against the Mavs. Earlier this season, became fastest player in NBA history to make 1,000 career 3s.
Klay Thompson, Warriors — At 44.6 percent, Thompson trails only Korver in 3-point percentage this season. Thompson and Curry are the only teammates ever to combine for 400 3-pointers in back-to-back seasons.
James Harden, Rockets — Fifth this season in 3-pointers made and attempts, and the NBA's leading scorer at 27 points.
Kyrie Irving, Cavaliers — Other than Belinelli, Irving has the least made treys in the field, with 100. But last year's All-Star Game MVP has a flair for the dramatic, and he knocked down 11 3s in his 55-point performance a few weeks back against Portland.
Kyle Korver, Hawks — On pace to have the greatest 3-point shooting season in NBA history, currently leading the NBA in 3-point accuracy at 53.2 percent. Korver is attempting to become the first player in history among qualifiers to shoot at least 50 percent from the field, 50 percent from beyond the arc and 90 percent from the free-throw line.
Wesley Matthews, Trail Blazers — Leads the NBA in 3-pointers made (151) and attempted (375). Has had 11 games this season where he made at least 5 3-pointers.
J.J. Redick, Clippers — Has made 114 3-pointers, putting him on track to break his previous high of 165. Currently shooting a career-high 43.2 percent on 3s.
State Farm NBA All-Star Saturday Night will be televised live exclusively on TNT on Saturday, Feb. 14, from the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York./quote]
George Karl in talks with Kings
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QuoteThe Sacramento Kings have engaged in serious discussions with George Karl and his representatives in recent days as the team's play has worsened under interim coach Tyrone Corbin, league coaching sources have confirmed to ESPN.
The Kings, according to sources, are still deciding whether they indeed want to make another coaching change so soon, which would make it three coaches in the brief regime of new owner Vivek Ranadive.
But sources say Ranadive is increasingly intrigued by the idea of bringing Karl in immediately after initially pledging to give Corbin the rest of the season to make his case.
Karl, who currently works as an analyst at ESPN, has not commented on numerous reports linking him and the Kings' coaching vacancy.
The Kings' recent conversations with Karl were reported earlier Saturday by the Sacramento Bee.
Karl ranks sixth all-time among NBA coaches with 1,131 wins and has worked extensively with two key members of Sacramento's brain trust in general manager Pete D'Alessandro and assistant GM Mike Bratz, as well as recent Kings hire Dean Oliver.
In the wake of Michael Malone's firing back in December, Karl made it clear he was interested in the Kings' coaching vacancy, saying he was "hungry to get back in the gym."
"There's no question that the year or year and a half that I've been out and been with ESPN has been fun, but I think I've got one more rodeo left in me," Karl said in December. "I'd like to get back in the gym and get with a good team. In a lot of ways, I think Sacramento fits that process, in my mind."
ESPN also reported in December that Kings adviser Chris Mullin resisted a push from Ranadive to take over for the fired Malone despite his lack of NBA coaching experience.
The Kings entered play Saturday with a 17-31 record -- the fourth-worst mark in the Western Conference. Sacramento is 6-18 under Corbin and has lost 10 of its last 11 games.
Anthony Davis Injury: Updates on Pelicans Star's Shoulder and Return
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Blake Griffin to have elbow surgery
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QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY -- Los Angeles Clippers star forward Blake Griffin has a staph infection in his right elbow and will be sidelined at least through the All-Star break.
The Clippers announced prior to Sunday afternoon's game against the Thunder that Griffin will undergo surgery Monday to remove the staph infection and will be re-evaluated after the All-Star break.
Clippers Struggle Without Griffin
The Clippers' offense has averaged 114.0 points per 100 possessions with Blake Griffin on the court this season, almost 14 points better than with him on the bench.
Griffin has had to deal with bursitis in his right elbow throughout his career and routinely has it drained during the course of the season. He most recently had fluid drained from the elbow Feb. 2, when the Clippers were in New York to play the Nets.
He wore a sleeve on his elbow after the procedure and struggled in Los Angeles' next two games. When the Clippers landed in Oklahoma City on Saturday, Clippers trainer Jasen Powell sent Griffin to the hospital to get his elbow examined.
"You could tell when something is infected. You can just look at it," Clippers coach Doc Rivers said Sunday. "With a bursa sac, it could just be that too, but it just didn't look right. [Powell] caught that and sent him early enough -- thank goodness."
There is no official timeline for Griffin's absence, but multiple team sources have told ESPN that the All-Star could be out between two and six weeks.
"It could be serious. It shouldn't be, but you have to be very careful with that injury," Rivers said. "It's the unknown. With a sprained ankle, you know 10 days. But with infections, they're infections, and you just have to be very careful. You cannot mess around with it."
Griffin was walking around the Clippers' locker room before Sunday's game with his right elbow taped. He didn't speak to reporters but will be with the team Sunday before flying back to Los Angeles after the game.
"You're more concerned about him than anything else because infections are no joke," Rivers said. "You just have to be careful. Everybody's bodies are different with infections, and all infections are different. They're not even sure what antibiotics you give him yet. They have to do all the culture work and stuff. I don't know [how long he'll be out]. It could be a while."
The Clippers' leading scorer, Griffin is averaging 22.5 points, 7.5 rebounds and a career-high 5.1 assists per game this season. The All-Star forward was third in the league's MVP balloting last year.
Following Sunday's game, Los Angeles concludes its eight-game road trip Monday night against the Mavericks. The Clippers host the Rockets on Wednesday night in their final game before the All-Star break.
Spencer Hawes started in place of Griffin on Sunday against Oklahoma City, but Rivers said it would be a game-to-game decision based on matchups after that.
"It will be Spencer most nights," Rivers said. "But if a team has a different type of lineup, we'll change our lineup and have a makeshift lineup until we get Blake back."
After making it through the first 45 games of the season relatively injury free, the Clippers are now having to deal with the absence of two starters for an indefinite period. Guard J.J. Redick will miss his third straight game Sunday with back spasms.
"You just don't like it when it's all at the same time," Rivers said. "Sometimes you have a good injury year where [players] get injured individually and then the other guy comes back, and sometimes you have a bad injury year where it all happens at the same time. Right now it's all happening at the same time."
Anthony Davis to be re-evaluated
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QuoteNEW ORLEANS -- Pelicans All-Star Anthony Davis hurt his right shoulder on a hard fall in which he struggled to brace himself after an alley-oop dunk late in the first half of Saturday night's 107-72 loss to the Chicago Bulls, and he did not return.
Davis was diagnosed with a right shoulder contusion. X-rays were negative.
"When he goes down like that, your first inclination is to get him out," Pelicans coach Monty Williams told reporters after the game. "When a guy hits the floor that hard, you feel bad for him."
Davis' arm was tucked in a sling after the loss. Williams said the extent of the injury might not be known until Sunday, when he was expected to be examined further.
"He says he's a bit sore right now. He couldn't move his arm the way he needed to, so we got him out," Williams said. "He kept saying he was OK ... but the doctors didn't feel good about getting him back out, so we've got to get more evaluation and we'll have a better update [Sunday]."
The dunk that drove Davis from the game was a two-handed jam of Tyreke Evans' lob. Davis' body swung like a pendulum as he held the rim, then the 6-foot-10, 240-pound forward fell horizontally as he lost his grip.
Davis stayed in the game briefly before taking himself out with the score tied at 35 and 4:16 left in the first half.
It was all Bulls after that.
"Anthony's a player that makes a big difference, so it was a tough hit for them to take," said Pau Gasol, whose 20 points and 15 rebounds helped Chicago snap a three-game skid. "We knew that we just had to stay at it and be aggressive on both ends of the floor and that's what we did."
Davis' exit came one night after his buzzer-beating 3-pointer pushed the Pelicans past the Oklahoma City Thunder 116-113.
"We've played without him, so we know how to play without him. We just have to make the adjustment on the fly," forward Dante Cunningham told reporters. "I think we didn't do it tonight, but we definitely know how to play without him. We had a couple games when he was hurt, so we just have to do it on the fly, I guess."
The Pelicans play at home on Monday and Wednesday before the All-Star break.
Gregg Popovich earns win No. 1,000 on Spurs' late rally past Pacers
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QuoteINDIANAPOLIS -- The San Antonio Spurs' fourth-quarter rally helped Gregg Popovich reach the 1,000-win milestone Monday night.
Marco Belinelli's baseline jumper with 2.1 seconds left capped San Antonio's 95-93 victory at Indiana.
Popovich became the ninth coach with 1,000th regular-season wins and became the third-fastest to achieve the feat. He also joined former Utah coach Jerry Sloan as the only coaches in league history to win 1,000 games with one team.
Tony Parker led the Spurs with 19 points. Tim Duncan had 15.
Rodney Stuckey scored 18 for Indiana, which had its season-best winning streak end at three.
The Pacers appeared to take control by building a 79-65 lead after three quarters.
But the Spurs scored nine straight to tie the score at 91, tied it again at 93, took the lead on Belinelli's shot and held on when George Hill's 3-pointer bounced off the rim.
San Antonio failed to give Popovich his grand party Sunday night when it lost at Toronto.
The defending NBA champs weren't about to let that happen again, even when they were down 91-82 with 5:36 to go.
And, of course, the Spurs rallied by using Popovich's plan of getting everyone involved.
Danny Green started the rally with a layup. Kawhi Leonard completed a 3-point play. Duncan scored on another layup and when Parker knocked down two free throws with 3:18 left, the score was suddenly tied at 91.
Indiana answered with a 20-footer from Stuckey to retake the lead, but Aron Baynes tied it again with a tip-in with 56.7 seconds left to set up the final sequence -- Belinelli's shot just before the shot clock expired and Hill's miss from the top of the key.
TIP-INS
Spurs: San Antonio has dominated this lopsided series, winning 14 of the past 15. But this year's season sweep came with a strange twist: The Spurs won each game with a different coach. Assistant coach Ettore Messina stepped in for Popovich and led the Spurs to a 106-100 win Nov. 26.
Pacers: How tough have things been this season for Indiana? The Pacers haven't won four straight in 11 months. And San Antonio has won six straight on the Pacers' home court. Indiana's last home win against Popovich came in April 2007.
UP NEXT
Spurs: visit Detroit on Wednesday.
Pacers: travel to New Orleans on Wednesday.
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George Karl to coach Kings
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QuoteGeorge Karl has reached an agreement in principle to become the next coach of the Sacramento Kings, general manager Pete D'Alessandro announced Thursday.
George Karl is one of the most accomplished head coaches in NBA history, but can he turn things around in Sacramento? Story
Terms have not been released, but Karl, an ESPN analyst, will get a four-year deal worth an estimated $15 million, sources said. The Kings will hold a formal news conference when the deal is finalized after All-Star Weekend.
Karl, who is attending a private funeral service for former North Carolina coach Dean Smith on Thursday, will take over as Tyrone Corbin's successor and Sacramento's third coach of the season starting next week.
Corbin was relieved of his duties Thursday, but will remain with the Kings in an advisory role, D'Alessandro said in a statement. Corbin had a 7-21 record since taking over after the Kings abruptly fired Mike Malone in mid-December.
"I have the utmost respect for Tyrone as a coach and person," D'Alessandro said in a statement. "He's a man of great integrity, a consummate professional that managed a difficult situation with class and professionalism. I look forward to continuing to work with Tyrone moving forward."
Sources told ESPN.com earlier this week that team officials informed Corbin that the Kings' games Tuesday and Wednesday in Chicago and Milwaukee likely would be his last two in charge.
Karl posted a tweet Thursday acknowledging his hiring.
The 63-year-old Karl -- who rejoined ESPN after leaving the Denver Nuggets on the heels of winning NBA Coach of the Year honors for the 2012-13 season -- ranks sixth all-time among NBA coaches with 1,131 wins. He coached in Cleveland, Golden State, Seattle and Milwaukee before his run with the Nuggets. After Karl joined the Nuggets midstream in the '04-05 season, he led them to a 32-8 finish.
All-Star power forward DeMarcus Cousins formally weighed in on the Kings' coaching situation before their game in Chicago on Tuesday night, insisting in an interview with ESPN.com that he has had no input for or against Karl. Two nights earlier he had gone on a cryptic postgame rant amid reports that he and his representatives were voicing opposition to Karl's hiring.
"I don't fire coaches or hire them," Cousins told ESPN. "Everyone knows I liked and respected Coach Malone. I didn't want [Malone's firing in December] to happen.
"I'm not involved in any coaching decisions right now. I've heard that George Karl is a great coach. If that is the direction that the organization chooses, I'll support it. Out of respect for Coach [Tyrone] Corbin, I hadn't planned on making any comments about what is rumored out there. But at this point I felt some things needed to be clarified."
He clarified his stance on the team's coaching situation further after Tuesday night's 104-86 loss to the Bulls, when he said, "All of [us] got thrown into this. To the best of our ability, we try to get it done. Work with what we have and try to leave the least amount of excuses possible."
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Dr. J: Players can't live up to mascots
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Julius Erving doesn't think the slam dunk contest is going away any time soon, but admits the competition has lost a step.
Not because LeBron James has stayed out of it or because every dunk has seemingly been done, but because of furry creatures.
"The mascots messed it up," Erving said, referring to the stunts pulled during regular-season games as part of crowd entertainment. "It was great seeing regular human beings, even though they were 6-foot-6, 250 pounds, running and dunking a basketball. When mascots started doing it with all the trampolines and all the crazy stuff and falling on the floor, then it became more like the X Games. The players can't live up to that."
Erving will be a judge in the 2015 Sprite Slam Dunk contest Saturday night at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, but declined to reveal the changes to this year's competition. Last year, tweaks made to liven up the exhibition fell flat.
Dr. J laughs when people tells him they saw him win the first dunk contest, which was part of the 1976 ABA All-Star Game in Denver.
"It's probably the same number of people and the same people who say that they were at Wilt's 100 point game in Hershey, Pennsylvania," Erving said.
Erving, who is a consultant to the Philadelphia 76ers, admitted the team's futility is "unfamiliar territory."
The team is 12-41 entering the All-Star break after suffering through a 19-63 record in 2013-14.
"I made the playoffs 16 out of 16 seasons," Erving said.
But, being part in the process, he said he believes the rebuilding plan is real and rational.
"I bought into the plan, and in 2016 and 2017 they are going to be formidable," Erving said. "They're young -- younger from some college teams -- but I think they've proved that on any given night they can beat any team in the league."
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Goran Dragic subject of trade talks
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QuoteThe Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers are among many teams expected to try to persuade the Phoenix Suns to part with star guard Goran Dragic before Thursday's NBA trade deadline, according to league sources.
Sources said that the Rockets, who let Dragic go in free agency in the summer of 2012 but have him high on their list of free-agent targets this summer, are prominent among the teams hoping to engage the Suns in serious discussions about Dragic before the league's annual trade buzzer next week.
The Lakers, meanwhile, also have coveted Dragic for some time and likewise are said to be intent on testing the Suns' resolve when it comes to their Slovenian point guard. Sources say L.A. plans to chase Dragic this summer anyway with an aggressive four-year offer that would be valued as high as an estimated $80 million if it approaches max-contract territory.
Other suitors for Dragic are sure to emerge, too, even though the Suns' first choice is believed to be pursuing other trades that balance out their guard- and wing-heavy roster and re-establish Dragic as more of an offensive focal point.
"I would take the fifth, generally, on any of these specific trade rumors," Suns president of basketball operations Lon Babby told the Arizona Republic. "What I would say is I expect us to be active. And what I mean by that is we're not going to just sit here and wait for the phone to ring.
"We'll be initiating calls to every team, and taking the temperature of what's out there and what's available. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if we do something between now and next Thursday."
The Suns' general stance in recent weeks and months has been to rebuff all trade interest in Dragic, who is widely regarded as their best player and the closest thing they have to a face of the franchise. But sources say Phoenix has likewise been trying all season to ascertain its chances of re-signing Dragic in July and might feel some pressure to consider trade options in the coming week if fears grow that the team could lose Dragic without compensation in free agency.
The Suns re-signed Eric Bledsoe to a five-year, $70 million contract late last summer and added Isaiah Thomas to their deep backcourt in July on a three-year deal worth $27 million. Those moves have encouraged Dragic's suitors around the league to try to pry him away with various trade offers, which the Suns have roundly rejected to this point. But the presence of two other quality point guards on the roster does at least give Phoenix plenty of cover at point guard if it changes course and abruptly decides that it has to part with Dragic now or in July.
While the Suns may be forced to break up their trio of point guards, Thomas said the team tries not to worry about trade rumors.
"You just try not to focus on it because it's a business," Thomas, a participant in the All-Star Skills Challenge, said Friday. "There's going to be rumors all over and you never know if its true or not. You just gotta continue to be a professional and be ready."
Despite the Rockets' recent acquisitions of Corey Brewer and Josh Smith, sources say they remain motivated to squeeze at least one more significant deal into this trade season, which has already seen Boston trade away Rajon Rondo (to Dallas) and Jeff Green (to Memphis) and Cleveland swing multiple deals to acquire Timofey Mozgov, Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith.
In January, Dragic told the Houston Chronicle that he wouldn't dismiss the Rockets in free agency even after they had him on the roster and then let him go, deciding that a four-year, $30 million contract offer from the Suns -- which now ranks as one of the league's best bargains -- was too rich to match.
"Oh, no," Dragic told the newspaper. "Nothing like that. Every team in the NBA is an option to me, because it is a privilege to play for any team in the NBA. When the time comes, I'm going to sit down with my family and my agent and try to make the best decision for myself."
Last season, Dragic was seen as the league's biggest All-Star snub and eventually was named to the All-NBA third team and won the most improved player award.
But he was scarcely mentioned as an All-Star candidate this season and has publicly acknowledged some frustration this month with his long spells playing off the ball alongside two other point guards.
That only figures to embolden teams to try to pursue Dragic via trade now, since both Bledsoe and Thomas are under contract going forward.
"I think our roster balance is a little off, and that's my fault," Suns GM Ryan McDonough told 98.7 FM in Phoenix this week. "We are a little too backcourt-heavy, especially in terms of guys who, you know, I think you'd define primarily as scorers in the backcourt.
"So I think at some point we'll need to balance that out, try to get a little more size, a little more frontcourt scoring and rebounding."
Phoenix lost five of its last six games heading into the All-Star break and has seen its lead over No. 9 Oklahoma City dwindle to a half-game in the Western Conference playoff race.
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Paul George targeting March return
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QuotePaul George spent time Friday afternoon taking care of business in New York City, but getting back on the court was on his mind.
"There's no exact timetable for my return," George told ESPN.com from Jay Z's 40/40 Club, where he had a public design session with New Era Cap to finalize his new logo and work on a collection of hats for the company. "I have targeted March 1 as the date that I would go 100 percent in practice, and if everything felt good, I'd give myself another two weeks to get in shape to play in a game."
George said he still has a long way to go but "the best part is feeling like a basketball player again."
"The biggest fear I have is injuring my healthy leg because I'm so used to it being the stronger one and I don't want to overcompensate for it," George said. "I got a rod in my other one, so that's stronger than it was before."
George broke his right leg in a gruesome injury in the fourth quarter of a Team USA scrimmage Aug. 1 in Las Vegas. Doctors who did not personally examine George originally told the media that the recovery time was between 12 and 18 months.
George will look different when he comes back.
Last year, he filed with the league to change his jersey number from 24 to 13 so he could take on the nickname "PG-13."
"Coming into training camp, it was cool to see my name with another number, even though I wasn't able to play in it," George said. "I'm excited to step onto the court with it and begin to own that number."
Despite making the league's deadline for number changes so that he wouldn't have to buy up all his old product, George did it anyway and donated a slew of No. 24 items to local children.
"It was a good way to give back to the community," said George, who couldn't remember the specific cost but said it was five figures. "People still talk to me about it today."
The "PG-13" logo, made by George with New Era designer Shawn Curtin, was finalized Friday afternoon with the No. 13 inside the letters P and G. A cap with the logo will be sold in the late summer.
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Durant: Media gets too much power
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Kevin Durant, the NBA's reigning Most Valuable Player, thinks the league's annual awards should include players in the voting process.
Durant said during his NBA All-Star media session with reporters that the players should be the ones with the power to decide who wins awards such as MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, Most Improved and Sixth Man, among others.
"I think (the) media gets too much power to vote on stuff like that. Quite frankly I don't think you really know a lot about as much we know about it," Durant said when asked if MVP winners should be allowed to vote on the MVP like former Heisman Trophy winners are allowed to do with the annual award for the best college football player. "So we play against these guys every single night, we battle against these guys, we know what they say on the court, we know how they handle their teammates, we know how they approach the game, and our votes should count.
"Our opinions should count. I don't think you guys know as much we do, and I don't see why you have more power than we do."
Durant won his first MVP for the 2013-14 season, totaling 1,232 points in voting, including 119 first-place votes. The award is decided by a panel of 124 voters consisting of sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada. There's also an NBA.com MVP fan vote that counts as one vote, making for a total of 125 total ballots overall.
Players are awarded 10 points for each first-place vote, seven points for each second-place vote, five for each third-place vote, three for each fourth-place vote and one for each fifth-place vote.
"We really know these guys inside and out," Durant said of why players should vote for the awards. "There are a lot of guys that deserve Defensive Player of the Year or Sixth Man of the Year but you guys (decide sometimes because) they are not the sexier names. A lot of people will see the names of these players and don't look at the other guys that contribute to our game as well.
"You guys aren't in the scouting reports, you're not in the team meetings and the film sessions to really break down each player's games. I don't see why you have more power in voting than we do. We are out there on the court playing with them. We appreciate how you guys blow the game up and bring attention to the game but at the same time, to keep it pure, the players should have more say in that stuff."
Durant averaged a career-high 32.0 points, 7.4 rebounds and a career-high 5.5 assists last season. Winning his fourth scoring title, he beat out LeBron James (who was with Miami at the time), the Clippers' Blake Griffin, the Bulls' Joakim Noah and Rockets' James Harden for MVP.
This season, Durant is averaging 25.9 points, 6.6 rebounds and 4.0 assists in 26 games since returning from a fractured right foot.
"You guys vote on the MVP and I think MVP is a lot about narratives and what may happen during that time," Durant said when asked about the difference between a great season and a player having an MVP-type season. "There's a lot of guys that play extremely well for years and years and just starting to get MVP consideration. But I think that consistent play sometimes gets a little boring to people but if you look at a guy like James Harden, he's been doing it for three years, same things and people start to act like it's new.
"Steph Curry has been doing the same thing for three years and I guess the narrative (is) around their team but what he's been doing is new to everybody. Once you guys really watch games and realize what these guys have been doing consistently for years, it's nothing new. It's all the same. I guess the hype around it is a little different so ... of course everybody gets better but if you stay consistent in what you do it's not like they came out of nowhere."
Andrew Wiggins is Rising Stars MVP
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Andrew Wiggins scored 22 points, Rudy Gobert added 18 points, 12 rebounds and three blocked shots, and the World team beat the U.S. 121-112 on Friday night in the Rising Stars Challenge at All-Star weekend.
Wiggins, the No. 1 pick from Canada who plays for Minnesota, was chosen as the game's MVP.
Brooklyn's Bojan Bogdanovic of Croatia, playing on his home court, and Chicago's Nikola Mirotic from Montenegro each added 16 points for the World.
Orlando's Victor Oladipo and Zach LaVine of Minnesota each scored 22 points for the U.S. team in the game between rookies and second-year players.
It was another new format for the opening game of All-Star weekend, which originated as a contest between teams of rookies, later turned into rookies against second-year players, and this year changed to the world against U.S. players.
It looked like all the other versions, with lots of 1-on-1 play and little defense beyond Gobert, the French center who impressively stuffed Nets center Mason Plumlee late in the game with the World protecting a narrow lead.
Some of the dunks were impressive -- all four contestants in Saturday's slam dunk contest were in Friday's game -- but the play was spotty. Oladipo shot 8 for 21 and the teams combined for 51 turnovers.
Minnesota's Gorgui Dieng of Senegal finished with 14 points and Milwaukee's Giannis Antetokounmpo of Greece had 12 points and 10 rebounds for the World. He's in the dunk contest Saturday along with LaVine, Oladipo and Plumlee.
Utah's Trey Burke scored 17 points for the U.S. and Plumlee had 13 points and nine rebounds.
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All-Star Grades: Rising Stars
QuoteIn the new USA-versus-world format, the league's best young stars took the court at Barclays Center. How did the youngsters fare under the bright lights in Brooklyn?
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Knicks to buy out Amar'e contract
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QuoteAmar'e Stoudemire's tenure with the New York Knicks ended Sunday when he reached an agreement on a buyout from the franchise, league sources have confirmed.
Stoudemire, who was in the final season of a five-year, $99.7 million contract, intends to sign with a team in playoff contention after clearing waivers.
ESPN reported last week that the Dallas Mavericks are considered the frontrunners to sign Stoudemire. A source told ESPNDallas.com that the Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns have also expressed interest, and the Cleveland Cavaliers are a possibility.
The New York Daily News earlier reported the news of Stoudemire's buyout agreement.
Stoudemire will be officially waived Monday and would thus clear waivers Wednesday at 5 p.m., freeing him to sign with another team.
Claiming Stoudemire off waivers would require that team to absorb Stoudemire's $23.4 million salary, which essentially rules out that scenario.
Stoudemire, who was in the final season of a five-year, $99.7 million contract with the Knicks, had said he would spend the All-Star break pondering his future, specifically whether to ask the last-place Knicks for a buyout to give himself an opportunity to join a team in the playoff hunt.
"It's not an easy decision to make," Stoudemire told Yahoo! Sports. "Over time, we will see how things pan out. You give yourself a break during the All-Star break. You think about it with your family. ... That will give me a good solid week on how to weigh out the rest of the season."
The Mavs can only offer Stoudemire the veteran's minimum, but he would likely have a significant role off the bench, as a candidate for minutes at power forward and center behind Dirk Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler.
The 6-foot-10 Stoudemire, a six-time All-Star, has averaged 12.1 points and 6.9 rebounds in 33 games for the Knicks this season despite dealing with a variety of injuries. He missed 14 of the previous 18 games -- due to ankle, wrist and knee injuries -- before returning in Friday night's 92-88 loss to the Brooklyn Nets.
Stoudemire, 32, has said the decision to request a buyout would be difficult because of his loyalty to Knicks owner Jim Dolan. But he likewise acknowledged in the Yahoo! interview that the constant losing has made it hard for him to remain motivated while playing for the Knicks.
The Mavs are 34-18 and in sixth place in the Western Conference, likely headed to the playoffs for the 14th time in 15 seasons. The Los Angeles Clippers (33-18) are another West playoff contender expected to have interest in Stoudemire, with Clippers coach and president of basketball operations Doc Rivers saying recently that his team would be active in the buyout market.
"All possibilities at this point are still open," Stoudemire said last week. "The door is still open for that. But at the same time, I am with the Knicks now. I got to stay optimistic about things and what we are doing here. I can't really focus on the future, because it's not here.
"We still have a couple weeks left before it's all said and done. It's a decision I have to make with my family to figure out the best scenario for the near future."
Knicks waive Amar'e Stoudemire
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QuoteNEW YORK -- Amar'e Stoudemire says he's leaving the New York Knicks with a "heavy heart." Now, he's looking for an opportunity to join a contender.
The Knicks announced on Monday afternoon that they have waived Stoudemire, who signed a five-year, $99.7 million contract with New York in July, 2010.
Stoudemire, making $23.4 million this season, is expected to clear waivers on Wednesday at 5 p.m. ET and become a free agent.
"I feel truly blessed to have been able to play for the incredible New York fans, Mr. Dolan, my coaches, teammates and the entire Knicks organization for the past five years," Stoudemire said in a statement released by the team. "I will be forever grateful for the opportunity to contribute positively on the court and in the community.
"Although I leave the Knicks with a heavy heart, I wish the organization the best of luck. Once a Knick always a Knick."
Sources with knowledge of his thinking told ESPN on Monday that Stoudemire is leaning toward signing with the Dallas Mavericks. Another source told ESPNDallas.com that the Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns have also expressed interest.
Sources also say the Golden State Warriors, Memphis Grizzlies, Portland Trail Blazers and Cleveland Cavaliers -- all playoff contenders in the market for extra size -- are not actively pursuing Stoudemire.
Stoudemire, 32, has stated a desire to compete for a championship. He posted a farewell message, written in the form of a poem, on his Instagram account Monday.
Knicks president Phil Jackson said Stoudemire initiated the idea of leaving the team. He also praised Stoudemire for his effort over the past five seasons in New York.
"His time here should be marked by recognizing his effort -- it was 100-percent," Jackson said in a statement. "As we move forward in structuring this team, we will look for players that exhibit his desire to win."
Knicks general manager Steve Mills added that he also appreciates Stoudemire's contributions.
"Everyone here at the Knicks organization appreciates the contribution Amar'e has made to the team and the entire City of New York over the past five seasons," Mills said. "We have developed a relationship that has translated into a long-term friendship, and it will continue through the remainder of his NBA career, and beyond."
Stoudemire leaves a mixed legacy in New York. The Knicks made the playoffs in Stoudemire's first three seasons but have regressed since.
Stoudemire, a six-time All-Star, has also been hampered by injuries throughout his Knicks' tenure.
He missed 70 of the Knicks' 164 regular season from 2012-13 and 2013-14, sitting out mostly due to recurring knee issues. Stoudemire had missed 14 of the previous 18 games this season -- because of ankle, wrist and knee injuries -- before returning in a Feb. 6 loss to the Brooklyn Nets.
The 6-foot-10 Stoudemire has averaged 12.0 points and 6.8 rebounds in 36 games for New York this season.
The Mavs can offer Stoudemire only the veteran's minimum, but he likely would have a significant role off the bench as a candidate for minutes at power forward and center behind Dirk Nowitzki and Tyson Chandler.
"He would fit in great because we play a lot of pick-and-roll," Chandler, who played with Stoudemire in New York the past three seasons, said recently. "Coach [Rick Carlisle] does an excellent job understanding scorers and how to get them the ball and putting them in a position to succeed. Not only that, we've got the best training staff in the league. That also helps."
By parting ways with Stoudemire, the Knicks open up a roster spot. It is unclear who they will sign at this point to fill the roster spot, but Thanasis Antetokounmpo, the younger brother of Giannis Antetokounmpo, is viewed by some in the organization as the most NBA-ready prospect on its D-League team.
New York (10-43) may not be finished re-shaping its roster this season.
According to sources, the Knicks have discussed moving point guards Pablo Prigioini and Jose Calderon. Veteran forward Andrea Bargnani, according to sources, is a candidate to be waived after Thursday's trade deadline, assuming the Knicks can't move him prior to that.
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Suns looking to deal Goran Dragic
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QuoteThe Phoenix Suns will try to move star guard Goran Dragic before Thursday's 3 p.m. ET trade deadline after Dragic's representatives informed the team Tuesday that Dragic does not plan to re-sign this summer, according to league sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Suns are resigned to try to strike a deal before the deadline with a team Dragic is prepared to re-sign with in order to avoid losing their All-NBA point guard in July without compensation.
USA Today earlier reported Tuesday night that Dragic's agent, Bill Duffy, informed the Suns that he intends to sign elsewhere as a free agent this offseason, no longer willing to share a backcourt with Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas.
ESPN.com reported last week that the Suns were trying to trade Thomas in part to try to appease Dragic. But Dragic's stance leaves Phoenix with little choice but to explore every option to try to make a deal for him.
ESPN.com also reported last week that the Houston Rockets and the Lakers were at the front of the line already trying to coerce the Suns into dealing Dragic, even before Phoenix had been able to get a clear indication from the 28-year-old about his future plans.
But sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday night that Dragic has little interest in signing a long-term deal with the Rockets, who would thus likely be unwilling to surrender the needed assets this week to get a Dragic deal done.
The Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks, sources said, are destinations that highly intrigue Dragic, given that both teams desperately need a point guard and will have loads of cap space to offer him. Only the Suns can offer Dragic a five-year deal for now, but any team that trades for Dragic this week would inherit his Larry Bird rights and the ability to offer a five-year contract come July.
If no trade materializes, Dragic would head to free agency seeking a four-year max deal from the likes of the Lakers, Knicks and Miami Heat that, based on the latest estimates in circulation, could reach the $80 million range.
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NBA Trade Deadline Roundup: A look at the trade Richter scale
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25071805/nba-trade-deadline-roundup-a-look-at-the-trade-richter-scale (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25071805/nba-trade-deadline-roundup-a-look-at-the-trade-richter-scale)
QuoteAll-Star Weekend is over, which means the NBA trade deadline is next. Thursday's 3 p.m. ET deadline means that it's time for a flurry of smoke. The question, as always, will be whether there's much in the way of fire. Another way to think about it is that there's often geological activity, but that doesn't mean an actual earthquake.
Here's a look at the vibrations going on around the league via the web:
WELCOME TO THE DRAGIC KINGDOM
Goran Dragic is one of the biggest names in talks. The situation can be simplified to this: The Suns clearly want to keep him (Yahoo), but the money situation complicates a lot for them. They basically signed two point guards to big deals and the third one, the best one, Dragic, is a free agent this summer. So they have to decide if they can re-sign him even if they offer him a max, considering the Lakers and Knicks and other teams will throw him the four-year max.
But it's been clear from Dragic's comments and body language this year that the three-point-guard system Phoenix decided to try out hasn't made him super happy. He wants his minutes and usage back, wants to have more control over the offense. Eric Bledsoe is one thing, he's able to play two-guard, is more dash-and-crash, and he and Dragic have good chemistry. But Isaiah Thomas is 26th in the league in isolation frequency, per NBA.com. He ISO's 16 percent of the time, and is in the 68th percentile in scoring in such situations. That's a lot of one-on-one basketball for a point guard.
The easy answer is "trade Thomas, use that money to re-sign Dragic" and that's clearly the Suns' preferred course (again, reported by Yahoo). But if they trade Thomas and then Dragic decides he just wants to leave, which isn't out of the question, the Suns aren't completely screwed, but they're pretty screwed. So then the question becomes, if you trade Dragic to prevent such a scenario, what do you want in return?
Yahoo says that's an All-Star "potential" player (think Tobias Harris or Nikola Vucevic or come to think of it, half the Magic roster) and a first-round pick. The teams capable of such a trade are basically Orlando, Denver, the Sixers, the Lakers (if they moved Julius Randle and even that's a stretch), and Houston (depending on how the Suns feel about Terrence Jones).
Dragic reportedly met with the Suns on Tuesday, and Tuesday night USA Today reported that Dragic will play out the season and become a free agent. Houston remains the most active pursuant in a trade, but the Rockets are probably going to need a three-way deal to get what Phoenix will want.
THE EASTERN FAULT LINE: BROOKLYN
Two teams with playoff aspirations to begin the year have come to face the reality that the dream is dead. The Nets and Nuggets know that there's no way they can make the postseason, and as such smaller trades have already gone down (Timofey Mozgov sent to Cleveland, Nate Robinson to Boston before buyout) and bigger trades have been discussed (a near-done Brook Lopez trade to OKC).
There's near universal agreement that the Nets and Nuggets will be active over the next two days but there's a lot of disagreement over whether something will happen.
Sporting News reports that the Nets remain underwhelmed by the offers for Lopez. The Nets' situation is extremely complicated. For one, they're still well within range of the playoffs, and Charlotte will be without Kemba Walker for another three weeks at least. Brooklyn can still make the postseason, boost some trade value, get some playoff revenue and then make moves in the summer. Second, the fact that Mikhail Prokhorov is looking to sell the team really screws with this entire situation. We've seen teams before (Detroit, Atlanta when they were for sale) remain stuck at the deadline because you don't want to make moves that will raise or lower interest in the team dramatically and affect sale price and valuation.
With Lopez, they have a player who was an All-Star when healthy, but is almost never healthy. He doesn't fit in with Lionel Hollins' plans, but do you put that plan with how much it has struggled out of the gate over the long-term goals? The basics of this are simple, though: The Nets want a big return, like all teams do for their best trade asset. And they'll hold out for as long as possible to seek that out. Same kind of deal with Deron Williams and Joe Johnson.
The chances of a deal are decent, if only because it doesn't make sense to keep going down this road with this payroll. But the odds are probably the same that talks will continually break down as the Nets want more and more.
Nets Daily reported Monday that there's "nothing iminent" with the Nets. If anything happens, I wouldn't expect it to be before Thursday morning. If the Nets start going crazy breaking down this team, it could open a lot more trades around the league as a consequence. Likewise, if rumored deals with Lopez or for Lance Stephenson remain in limbo, that could freeze activity at the deadline. Many moves are connected to each other
THE WESTERN FAULT LINE: DENVER
The Nuggets are in a similar situation, only with better assets. That's a good thing and a bad thing. Their contracts are more reasonable than Brooklyn's, their players are younger, their guys are more movable with fewer complications (Lopez' health, Williams' decline, Johnson's age, etc.). They could get on the phone Tuesday and have 90 percent of their roster moved out by the end of the night.
But that also means they have to ask for more. The word being thrown around is that the Nuggets want multiple first-rounders for their guys, which makes sense when they got two firsts for Timofey Mozgov. But Mozgov was in part determined by the value of first-rounders, and specific to Cleveland's need and set of assets. That was also before the Nuggets totally imploded and effectively quit on themselves and their coach.
Wilson Chandler is the most likely trade target. The noise right now is about Arron Afflalo, but Chandler is A. an easier contract to move and B. a more reasonable asset to trade (as in, you don't need to get huge return for him vs. Afflalo with All-Star potential). The Blazers have been chasing Chandler for months, and CSN Northwest reports they're ready right now to give up Thomas Robinson, a first-round pick, and "another player" for the wing. That "another player" is the likely hang-up, with the Blazers thinking C.J. McCollum and the Nuggets likely wanting Nicolas Batum (that's been rumored but not reported as the scenario and it makes a lot of sense).
Afflalo, though, is a much tastier fish to chase, which is why the following teams have been linked to talks for him, all via ESPN:
OKC Thunder: They need another versatile wing and the scoring punch would be a big deal. It's basically the move they made for Dion Waiters, only for a good player.
Sacramento Kings: Afflalo has a history with GM Pete D'Allessandro and new coach George Karl. He's a weird fit with DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay being high-usage, but they do have young players (Ben McLemore, Nik Stauskas), and moveable contracts (Jason Thompson).
Chicago Bulls: Weird name to pop up, and you wonder if this is connected to talk that they could move Taj Gibson. The Bulls adding another star player would push them into a higher level of contention.
Los Angeles Clippers: The Clippers will take anything the Nuggets will offer on the wing and would give up almost anything they can reasonably give. They just have nothing to give. This is a pipe dream unless something really crazy goes down.
The Ty Lawson situation is the other wild card, and it's, uh... confusing. Grantland reported last week that Lawson was available in talks. The Denver Post reports the opposite, that the Nuggets aren't moving him. These seem like contradictory statements, but they're not. Here's the difference. Grantland is reporting that other executives think if you come with an offer that blows them out of the water, the Nuggets will listen and it might go down. The Post is reporting that the Nuggets aren't going to deal him, which is likely the position the Nuggets have taken in talks. In short: It depends on who you believe, indications from teams that have talked to the Nuggets and likely want to thaw their reluctance publicly, or the Nuggets who would want to maintain that freeze around Lawson at all costs, because it does not benefit them to float his name as available in the public sphere, but could also just be telling the truth -- that he's not available. Politics! Good times!
The noise out of Grantland and CSN New England this week involves the Celtics being most interested in Lawson, which makes sense. The Celtics could send Marcus Smart or Avery Bradley along with another young wing and any number of their approximately 11,000 first-round picks over the next three years, and get a speedy point guard with All-Star potential to run the show in Brad Stevens' system. Why trade Rajon Rondo only to trade for Ty Lawson? Lawson's got another two years on his contract after this. That's why. Rondo will be a free agent this summer.
The words "Nuggets fire sale" were a buzz term at All-Star Weekend, but the idea of how much they're really looking to change the team varies with who you talk to.
If this sounds like "they could trade everyone or no one," that's pretty much been their M.O. for the last month. It's all based on what deals become available, and all indications are that the Nuggets aren't going to break up the team without significant return.
ENES BANTER
Long story short, Enes Kanter wants out, and wants to be traded ASAP. The report (Yahoo) is that the Jazz want a young player and a first-rounder for Kanter. It may seem a little nuts that the Jazz are effectively asking for the same value for Kanter as the Nuggets are for Afflalo, but two things. One, you always say "we want young talent and a pick" for a player. That's just page one in the "So You're Going To Trade A Good Young Player" handbook. And two, the value of the pick matters. Portland's problem with acquiring Chandler or Afflalo is based around where their pick will land (somewhere in the 20's, possibly high). The pick for Afflalo has to be better than the pick for Kanter, and the young player for Afflalo has to be higher than the one for Kanter.
Kanter's per-36 numbers (sorry Charles Barkley) are terrific (18.4 points and 10.4 rebounds) but there's a reason he's lost minutes this season. He's regressed defensively and Rudy Gobert has been incredible in his second year. And some players aren't going to click with Quin Snyder, while others will shine. Kanter's still gifted offensively, but needs to get better at protecting the rim and work on conditioning.
He's worth a flyer for a young team in need of a big.
LAYUPS
Tayshaun Prince is reportedly unlikely to be dealt (NBA.com), which is code for "Everyone knows he'll be bought out after the deadline anyway."
Yahoo Sports reports that Draymond Green would be interested in an offer sheet with the Pistons this summer as a restricted free agent. I tend to read this as simple negotiating to keep the pressure on an already maxed-out Warriors team to remain engaged in keeping Green at all costs and to push for a quick resolution to avoid what happened to Eric Bledsoe last year happening to Green, who should probably be leading the way in Defensive Player of the Year votes at this point.
HT: HoopsHype, HoopsRumors, both indispensable during Trade Deadline season.
Amar'e Stoudemire joins Mavs
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/12344433/amare-stoudemire-officially-member-dallas-mavericks (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/12344433/amare-stoudemire-officially-member-dallas-mavericks)
QuoteDALLAS -- Amar'e Stoudemire is officially a member of the Dallas Mavericks.
Stoudemire, the 13-year veteran center/forward who reached a buyout agreement with the New York Knicks during All-Star weekend, signed with the Mavs as soon as he cleared waivers at 5 p.m. ET Wednesday.
"I'm excited to be a part of a first-class organization," Stoudemire said in a statement released by the team. "To play alongside Dirk Nowitzki, Tyson Chandler and other great players, I think it's a tremendous opportunity for me to compete for a championship." Stoudemire joined the Mavs on their flight to Oklahoma City on Wednesday afternoon, will participate in the morning shootaround with his new teammates and will come off the Dallas bench in Thursday night's game against the Thunder.
Stoudemire, 32, who was making $23.4 million in the final season of a five-year, $99.7 million deal, requested a buyout from the last-place Knicks because he wanted the opportunity to join a playoff contender. He quickly picked the 36-19 Mavs over other suitors such as the Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns, verbally committing to Dallas on Monday night.
The Mavs could only offer Stoudemire the prorated veteran's minimum. His deal with Dallas is worth $477,150, according to sources.
The Mavs plan to use Stoudemire, a six-time All-Star who is averaging 12.0 points and 6.8 rebounds in 24 minutes per game this season, as a sixth man. The majority of his minutes are likely to come as Chandler's backup at center, and Stoudemire will also get some spot duty at power forward behind Nowitzki.
"I know what he can provide -- an incredible finisher at the rim, one of the best pick-and-roll players that we have in the game still," said Chandler, who played with Stoudemire in New York for three seasons before being traded to the Mavs last summer. "I'm excited for what he can bring. I think he can really flourish because his minutes won't be high. He'll only be asked to do what he's great at doing. That's coming in and finishing and scoring in the paint.
"I feel like he's going to be an incredible addition for us."
The 6-foot-10, 245-pound Stoudemire fills a significant void for the Mavs, who have been searching for a big man to bolster the bench since giving up Brandan Wright in the Dec. 18 deal to acquire point guard Rajon Rondo. Journeyman Greg Smith, rookie second-round pick Dwight Powell and Bernard James, who signed a 10-day contract on Feb. 11, had been Dallas' options at backup center.
"It's obvious he would be a great upgrade to our front line, especially to our thin bench on the front line," Nowitzki said.
The Mavs released swingman Ricky Ledo, a second-round pick in 2013, to make room on the roster for Stoudemire.
Quote from: Reya Serra on February 18, 2015, 12:46:47 AM
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :(
It gets worse, Reya.
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Goran Dragic: Trust in Suns is shot
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12344251/goran-dragic-says-longer-trusts-phoenix-suns (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12344251/goran-dragic-says-longer-trusts-phoenix-suns)
QuotePHOENIX -- Fed up with his role on a team crowded with point guards, Goran Dragic said he has made up his mind to leave the Phoenix Suns, preferably by Thursday's trade deadline.
If not then, he has made it clear there is no way he would re-sign with the team when he becomes a free agent after this season.
"I don't trust them anymore," Dragic said after the Suns practiced on Wednesday.
The 28-year-old guard's points and assists are down considerably from last season, when he was third team all-NBA. He said he doesn't like his role of "standing in the corner" and wants to go to a team where he can "be a point guard, like in the past I was my whole life."
"To be a point guard, to run the team and have the ball in my hands and try to make plays for others," Dragic said. "That's who I am."
He often found himself playing the off guard or on the wing in deference to the Suns' other point guards, Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas. Sometimes all three were on the court together.
"Last year was great. This year it's different," Dragic said. "...Standing in the corner, it's not my game."
Dragic's agent, Bill Duffy, told the Suns on Tuesday that there was nothing they could do to keep his client with the team.
Now the Suns are up against the wall, trying to make a deal before Thursday's deadline or see Dragic walk as a free agent with no compensation to the team when the season ends.
Dragic, in his seventh NBA season, is averaging 16.2 points per game, down from his career-best 20.3 last season, and 4.1 assists, down from 5.9 last year.
This is the personable Slovenian's second stint with the Suns. He was drafted by San Antonio, on behalf of Phoenix, as the 15th pick overall in 2008. The Suns sent him to Houston during the 2010-11 season. He returned to sign a four-year, $30 million contract in 2012, with the ability to opt out after three years.
His 2012 acquisition came after the Suns traded Steve Nash to the Los Angeles Lakers.
After the Suns went through an awful 2012-13 season, Ryan McDonough was hired as general manager and put together a trade with the Los Angeles Clippers for point guard Eric Bledsoe. Phoenix thrived last season when Dragic and Bledsoe both played, compiling a 23-11 record, and the Suns won 48 games, just missing the playoffs.
In the offseason, with Bledsoe yet to sign a new deal, the Suns surprisingly acquired a third point guard, Thomas, in a four-year, $27 million sign-and-trade deal. Then Bledsoe signed a five-year, $70 million contract.
The chemistry of the previous season wasn't there.
"It was hard, different style," Dragic said. "(In the) corner, not getting the touches I usually get. I get touches, but they are not the same. That's the most frustrating thing."
Coach Jeff Hornacek was charged with making the three point-guard thing work.
"Was it ideal? No," Hornacek said. "Would it have got back to where it was last year? Maybe. But there's no reason talking about it now until the trade deadline goes by."
As for Dragic's perception that he was standing in a corner on offense when he wanted the ball at the point, Hornacek said, "If that's what he feels, that's what he feels,"
"We swing the ball from side to side," the coach said. "He's gotten the ball on the swing. Everybody has their perception of what's happening out there. Is it what it was last year? No. But again we're four plays away from being 33-21."
Dragic said he wished no ill will to anyone in the Suns organization.
"I love the city, but it's just reached that point in my career where it's better for me and my family to move on," he said.
The Suns lost five of six going into the All-Star break. At 29-25, they are clinging to a half-game lead over Oklahoma City for the No. 8 spot in the Western Conference.
They are at Minnesota on Friday night.
Report: Kings after Suns' Goran Dragic, Celtics also in mix
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/702677 (http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/702677)
QuoteGoran Dragic reportedly isn't long for Phoenix, but the Sacramento Kings want to keep him out west, Yahoo Sports' Marc Spears reports.
Another team that could jump into the mix is the Boston Celtics, with ESPN's Marc Stein reporting that the team has emerged as an outside contender to land the All-NBA guard.
The Celtics have young players and a bevy of draft picks to dangle. In addition, Suns general manager Ryan McDonough worked for the Celtics for 10 years, including time as assistant general manager to Celtics GM Danny Ainge.
Boston, like Sacramento, would not be afraid to trade for a pending free agent, Stein notes.
Dragic reportedly told the Suns on Tuesday that he isn't interested in re-signing with the club, so it's expected Phoenix will try to move him before Thursday's trade deadline. Dragic can opt out of his deal this coming offseason.
The point guard's preferred trade destinations are reportedly the Miami Heat, New York Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers, while the Houston Rockets -Dragic's former team - are apparently also in strong pursuit.
The 28-year-old reportedly gave the Suns a list of seven teams he's open to re-signing with in the event of a trade.
Dragic's averaging 17.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 4.4 assists per 36 minutes in 52 starts.
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Report: Goran Dragic tells Suns he won't re-sign, team will try to trade him
http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/702610 (http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/702610)
QuoteThe Phoenix Suns are bracing for a future without point guard Goran Dragic.
Dragic, who can opt out of his contract at the end of the season, told the Suns on Tuesday that he has no intention of re-signing with them in the offseason, according to Sam Amick of USA Today Sports.
The Suns' three-point guard experiment, while intriguing and sporadically successful, hasn't worked out the way the front office hoped when they inked free agent Isaiah Thomas to a 4-year, $27-million deal this past offseason.
Part of the reason for that signing (which preceded a lucrative extension for Eric Bledsoe) was likely as a bit of insurance against losing Dragic, but the addition may have ultimately helped usher him out the door. The Suns were already resigned to the reality that they'd have to trade one of their point guards, but they'd expressed their preference for trading Thomas.
Dragic declaring his intent to bolt in the offseason forces the Suns' hand. They now plan to act quickly to move Dragic before Thursday's trade deadline, according to RealGM's Shams Charania.
The Houston Rockets have long been rumored to be interested in re-acquiring Dragic, who played for them in 2011-12, but Houston isn't one of Dragic's preferred destinations, and would be unlikely to re-sign there after the season, according to ESPN's Marc Stein.
Instead, Dragic has listed the Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, and New York Knicks as desired landing spots, according to Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski.
Amick reports that Dragic has given the Suns a list that runs seven teams long.
This is where things will get interesting. All of the teams presently listed have glaring needs at point guard, but they'll obviously be hesitant to give up anything of value without being at least semi-confident in their ability to re-sign Dragic in the offseason.
That would seem to knock the Rockets out of the running. But since they're the only team of the bunch that's sniffing championship contention, they may decide to meet the asking price for Dragic, even knowing that it could amount to a rental, if they believe he can push them over the top.
For the Heat, Lakers, Knicks and four other teams reportedly on Dragic's list, there may also be reticence to part with valuable assets knowing that there's a chance they can woo him in the summer. Though, attaining Dragic's Bird Rights would give any team a big leg up in free agency.
According to ESPN's Ramona Shelburne, the Suns countered a Lakers trade proposal late last week by offering Thomas instead. Another counter-offer from the Suns in Dragic trade talks with the Lakers would be for L.A. to remove the top-five protection on the 2015 pick it owes Phoenix stemming from the 2012 Steve Nash trade.
The NBA's Most Improved Player and an All-NBA third teamer last season, Dragic is averaging 16.2 points, 3.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists for the Suns this season, while shooting 50.1 percent from the field and 35.5 percent from 3-point range. Those numbers are down from a season ago thanks in part to the three-guard system, but it doesn't sound as if the dip has hurt Dragic's market value much.
Suns trade Goran Dragic to Heat
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348588/phoenix-suns-trade-goran-dragic-miami-heat (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348588/phoenix-suns-trade-goran-dragic-miami-heat)
QuoteThe Phoenix Suns have agreed to trade Goran Dragic to the Miami Heat, sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein on Thursday.
Dragic had been on the trading block this week because he wasn't happy with his role in Phoenix's crowded backcourt. He made it clear that he wouldn't re-sign with the Suns when he becomes a free agent after this season.
"I don't trust them anymore," Dragic said after the Suns practiced Wednesday.
The 28-year-old guard's points and assists are down considerably from last season, when he was third-team All-NBA. He said he doesn't like his role of "standing in the corner" and wants to go to a team where he can "be a point guard, like in the past I was my whole life."
"To be a point guard, to run the team and have the ball in my hands and try to make plays for others," Dragic said. "That's who I am."
He often found himself playing the off guard or on the wing in deference to the Suns' other point guards, Eric Bledsoe and Isaiah Thomas. Sometimes all three were on the court together.
"Last year was great. This year it's different," Dragic said. "... Standing in the corner, it's not my game."
Dragic's agent, Bill Duffy, told the Suns on Tuesday that there was nothing they could do to keep his client with the team.
In a side deal, the Heat traded backup point guard Norris Cole to the New Orleans Pelicans for veteran swingman John Salmons. That deal gave the Pelicans a fill-in for the injured Jrue Holiday and the Heat some depth. Both players will be free agents at the end of the season.
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Celtics trade for Isaiah Thomas
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348825/boston-celtics-get-isaiah-thomas-phoenix-suns-marcus-thornton-first-round-pick (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348825/boston-celtics-get-isaiah-thomas-phoenix-suns-marcus-thornton-first-round-pick)
QuoteSACRAMENTO, Calif. -- The Boston Celtics thrust themselves into the frenetic final minutes of the 2015 NBA trade deadline, acquiring point guard Isaiah Thomas from the Phoenix Suns and dealing Tayshaun Prince to the Detroit Pistons, according to ESPN.com sources.
Boston acquired Thomas in exchange for Marcus Thornton and the Cleveland Cavaliers' 2016 first-round pick, sources told ESPN.com's Jeff Goodman.
Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge had said Thursday morning that Boston was "all over the map" while examining possibilities as a buyer, seller or facilitator. For much of the early afternoon it looked like Boston might endure its third trade-less deadline in four years, but the Celtics finished with a bang.
Ainge had made Thomas a free-agent target this past summer before he landed with the Suns. With an overstocked backcourt and a disgruntled Goran Dragic, Phoenix overhauled its backcourt Thursday. The Suns traded Dragic to the Miami Heat, and shipped Thomas to the Celtics as Boston pounced on a player it coveted.
Thomas signed a modest four-year, $27 million contract this summer that actually decreases in value each season. In the hours leading up to the deadline, Ainge had noted, "We're also looking to acquire players that are already under contract. We really don't want to get rid of multiple draft picks for players with uncertainty in the free-agent market -- a situation like we were in with [Rajon] Rondo. ... We're looking for more certainty."
Now the Celtics add a pint-sized point guard who immediately becomes their best penetrator. Thomas can create off the dribble and provide a scoring punch, mixing into what will be a three-guard rotation with rookie Marcus Smart and Avery Bradley.
It's just the sort of infusion of talent that Ainge had hinted he wanted.
"We really like [the team's young guards] a lot, but you need depth and you need a lot shooting and scoring at the guard position to be a great team," said Ainge. "We like our young kids, also. But we don't have enough. The talent level that we have right now is not good enough at this moment."
Boston sits 1.5 games out of a final playoff berth in the Eastern Conference. The Celtics just got hyper-competitive with two other teams in the mix also upgrading their point guard position -- the Heat, who obtained Dragic, and the Detroit Pistons, who picked up Reggie Jackson from the Oklahoma City Thunder.
After acquiring Thomas, Boston's 2013 blockbuster with the Brooklyn Nets looks even better. The Celtics essentially turned the $12.9 million trade exception generated from trading Paul Pierce into Tyler Zeller and Thomas. Boston drafted James Young with Brooklyn's pick this past summer and will collect two more first-rounders in 2016 and 2018 (with an ability to swap spots in 2017).
The Nets traded Garnett to the Minnesota Timberwolves on Thursday, leaving Brooklyn with no remaining players from the Boston swap.
The Celtics were able to move Prince, a player who was headed for a buyout discussion if he was not moved. Thornton could have been a buyout candidate as well if Boston didn't find a home for him.
Boston's roster now stands at 15 players at the moment, though it's unclear if Jerebko and Datome figure into the plans moving forward. The Celtics are still comfortably under the luxury-tax line.
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Suns acquire Knight in 3-team deal
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348809/milwaukee-bucks-get-michael-carter-williams-miles-plumlee-tyler-ennis-3-team-trade (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12348809/milwaukee-bucks-get-michael-carter-williams-miles-plumlee-tyler-ennis-3-team-trade)
QuoteThe Milwaukee Bucks, Philadelphia 76ers and Phoenix Suns have agreed to a three-team trade that would send Brandon Knight to Phoenix, Michael Carter-Williams, Miles Plumlee and Tyler Ennis to Milwaukee and draft picks to Philadelphia, a source told ESPN's Marc Stein.
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Trail Blazers acquire Arron Afflalo
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12347682/denver-nuggets-trade-arron-afflalo-portland-trail-blazers (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12347682/denver-nuggets-trade-arron-afflalo-portland-trail-blazers)
QuoteThe Portland Trail Blazers acquired Arron Afflalo from the Denver Nuggets on Thursday in a package involving five players and a first-round draft pick.
The Blazers will send Thomas Robinson, Will Barton, Victor Claver and a lottery-protected first-round pick to the Nuggets for Afflalo and Alonzo Gee.
The first-round pick sent to the Nuggets is lottery-protected in 2016 and 2017. It becomes two future second-round picks if the Blazers miss the playoffs in each of those seasons.
"Arron is a proven winner with playoff experience who will be easily integrated into our culture," Trail Blazers president of basketball operations Neil Olshey said in a statement. "He possesses a skill set that complements our style of play on both ends of the floor and will make an immediate impact as we continue our playoff push.
"Alonzo is an elite athlete and defender who adds a unique element to our perimeter."
The Blazers, who have been on the hunt for bench help, get a veteran shooter in Afflalo, who has been a bit of a disappointment since the Nuggets traded for him last summer. He is averaging 14.5 points, but is having his worst shooting season in seven years. He has the option to become a free agent this summer.
The Nuggets' goal in the deal was to acquire another first-round pick after they picked up two in a deal for Timofey Mozgov.
Barton, Claver and Robinson are all part-time players who are all scheduled to be restricted free agents after the season.
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Nuggets trade JaVale McGee to 76ers
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12347900/denver-nuggets-trade-javale-mcgee-philadelphia-76ers (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12347900/denver-nuggets-trade-javale-mcgee-philadelphia-76ers)
QuoteAs the Denver Nuggets continue to attempt to offload veterans and salary as part of a rebuilding project, they traded JaVale McGee to the Philadelphia 76ers, sources told ESPN.com.
The 76ers have enough salary-cap space to take on McGee, who has been plagued with injuries over the past two years and fallen out of Denver coach Brian Shaw's plans. Unloading McGee creates an $11.2 million trade exception for the Nuggets, who will also clear the $12 million McGee had coming to him next season from their books.
To do this deal, the 76ers will acquire the Oklahoma City Thunder's 2015 first-round pick, which the Nuggets got in an earlier trade for Timofey Mozgov. That pick is top-18 protected, and if it rolls to next year it would be lottery protected.
The Nuggets picked up another future first-round pick in a separate deal Thursday, sending Arron Afflalo to Portland.
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Reggie Jackson dealt to Pistons
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QuoteThe Oklahoma City Thunder have traded Reggie Jackson to the Detroit Pistons in a three-team deal, a source confirmed to ESPN.com.
The Thunder will acquire Utah Jazz center Enes Kanter and forward Steve Novak, Pistons forward Kyle Singler and guard D.J. Augustin, with Thunder center Kendrick Perkins going to the Jazz. According to a source, Perkins is set to be bought out by the Jazz, with potential suitors being the Clippers or Cavaliers.
Yahoo! Sports first reported the deal.
Jackson, 24, has expressed desire for a starting role, but with the inability to get it in Oklahoma City, his agent requested a trade. Jackson is set to be a restricted free agent this summer and is in search of a contract near the max. Jackson is averaging 12.8 points and 4.3 assists in 28.0 minutes per game, but has seen his playing time significantly dip since the Thunder added Dion Waiters in January.
On Thursday, Jackson tweeted out the news.
Just woke up from my nap a #Piston #DETROITBASKETBALL!!!
— Reggie Jackson (@rjOKCson_15) February 19, 2015
Kanter, 22, is averaging 13.8 points and 7.8 rebounds in 27.1 minutes a game this season for the Jazz. Augustin, 27, is averaging 10.6 points and 4.9 assists in 23.8 minutes and will fill Jackson's former backup point guard role to Russell Westbrook. Singler, 26, is a 40 percent shooter from beyond the arc and is averaging 7.1 points in 54 games this season.
Perkins, 30, is in the final year of his contract, making $9.4 million. In 51 games this season, he's averaging 4.0 points and 5.5 rebounds.
The Thunder pushed hard to acquire Brooklyn Nets center Brook Lopez, but he had to adjust with Lopez unwilling to agree to exercising his 2015-16 player option, according to a source.
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Andre Miller heading to Kings
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QuoteThe Sacramento Kings acquired veteran Andre Miller and sent Ramon Sessions to the Washington Wizards in a swap of backup point guards, sources told ESPN.
Miller, who is in his 16th season, has a history with new Kings coach George Karl when the two were together with the Denver Nuggets. He has struggled this season, averaging career lows at 3.6 points and 2.8 assists per game.
Sessions also is having a poor season. He is averaging a career low in points at 5.4 per game and is shooting just 34 percent.
Yahoo! Sports first reported the trade.
Agent: Kevin Garnett to Minnesota
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QuoteMINNEAPOLIS -- Kevin Garnett is returning to the place it all began.
Garnett agreed to drop his no-trade clause and accept a trade from the Brooklyn Nets to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Thaddeus Young, his agent confirmed Thursday on Twitter.
The move affords Garnett the chance to play out what might be his 20th and final NBA season as a member of the team that drafted him out of high school in 1995 -- and under longtime coach Flip Saunders.
Saunders remains close with Garnett and has expressed his desire to bring back the most popular player in Wolves annals as a mentor to the many youngsters on the current roster, headlined by 2014's No. 1 draft pick Andrew Wiggins.
Garnett, chosen by the Wolves with the fifth overall pick in the 1995 NBA draft, guided Minnesota to the only eight playoff appearances in franchise history and won the MVP while leading them to the Western Conference finals in 2004.
He was traded to Boston in 2007, and he won a championship in his first season with the Celtics.
The Wolves have missed the playoffs in each of the seven seasons since his departure.
ESPN first reported the possibility of the deal Wednesday night. David Aldridge of NBA.com was the first to report Garnett would waive his no-trade clause.
Suns in 'better place' after Dragic deal
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12354644/phoenix-suns-take-shots-traded-goran-dragic-praise-new-arrival-brandon-knight (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12354644/phoenix-suns-take-shots-traded-goran-dragic-praise-new-arrival-brandon-knight)
QuoteGoran Dragic made no secret of the fact he wanted off the Phoenix Suns, and on Friday, the Suns showed the feeling was more than mutual.
"We feel like we got the best player in the trade [Brandon Knight], coming or going," Phoenix general manager Ryan McDonough said a day after completing a three-way trade that most notably sent Dragic and his brother Zoran to the Miami Heat; the Suns netted Knight from the Milwaukee Bucks.
Goran Dragic, along with Eric Bledsoe, nearly led the surprising Suns to the playoffs last season. Following the success of their two-point guard attack, Phoenix added a third point guard, Isaiah Thomas, in a decision that rankled Dragic.
"Every move we make is with the goal of getting the Phoenix Suns to a championship level," McDonough said. "Sometimes, players view that as a good thing. I think they usually do. The good ones do. But, sometimes, players get a little selfish and are more worried about I, me and my than us, our and we."
The situation with Dragic came to a head earlier this week when the guard said he no longer trusted the franchise and wanted out.
Team president Lon Babby on Friday characterized those comments as "unfair and unwarranted."
In addition to the Dragics, the Suns in a separate deal shipped Thomas to the Boston Celtics. The flurry of moves at the trade deadline, along with the notion that the team's best player in Goran Dragic is gone, has forced the Phoenix front office to defend its moves.
"Our response to that, I think, is that Eric Bledsoe and Markieff Morris are still in Phoenix Suns uniforms," McDonough said.
"I feel a little ridiculous sitting up here kind of addressing the tone, some of the questions and the mood seems like we're 20 games below .500 and the season has been a disaster," McDonough added. "If the playoffs started at the All-Star break, we'd be in."
The Suns (29-25) are currently in ninth place in the Western Conference following a win by the Oklahoma City Thunder on Thursday night.
Phoenix will visit the Minnesota Timberwolves (11-42) on Friday night in their first game since the All-Star break, but will do so with just 10 men suited up, as physicals are pending for the recently acquired players.
"At the end of the day," Babby said, "I'm absolutely convinced that we are in a better place now than we have been since I've been here."
Here we go again...
Derrick Rose to undergo surger
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QuoteCHICAGO -- Bulls guard Derrick Rose has a torn meniscus in his right knee and will undergo surgery, the team said Tuesday.
Rose reported earlier in the day with right knee pain. An exam and subsequent MRI confirmed the tear.
A timetable for Rose's return will be determined once he has surgery, the team said.
Rose has been dogged by injuries for the past three seasons.
He tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in Game 1 of the 2012 playoffs against Philadelphia. The 2011 NBA MVP missed the entire next season, then played in only 10 games last season before a right knee injury shelved him for the rest of the season.
Rose was scratched for one game last month for soreness in his left knee, and he missed four games in November with a hamstring injury.
Cleveland Cavaliers star LeBron James was one of many players reacting to the news on Twitter late Tuesday.
When healthy, Rose is a great player. He showed that in the first few seasons. But ever since he's been just a shell and the Bulls are always left trying to figure out how to replace him.
I think he strongly considers retiring after this.
He's going to make over 40 mil for the next two seasons. Rose won't even consider retirement.
He might consider it from a health stand point, but he probably won't from a financial one. He'll want to milk all he can out of the deal before he gets to free agency and likely has to settle for bench duty if he continues.
Of course, we're assuming the Bulls won't try and but him out, right? I don't know how that stuff works in the NBA, but would they have that ability?
Rose is the perfect candidate for a player/coach role. With his injuries he could be a bench guy and play less minutes but also be involved with the team. Might work out for him.
Quote from: Gates on February 25, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
He might consider it from a health stand point, but he probably won't from a financial one. He'll want to milk all he can out of the deal before he gets to free agency and likely has to settle for bench duty if he continues.
Of course, we're assuming the Bulls won't try and but him out, right? I don't know how that stuff works in the NBA, but would they have that ability?
Yeah, they can buy him out, but at this point the price is probably steep. I'd guess north of 20 million.
Quote from: Gravedigger on February 26, 2015, 10:33:40 AM
Yeah, they can buy him out, but at this point the price is probably steep. I'd guess north of 20 million.
They had a doctor over on SportsCenter the other day - there is a possibility this is a quick fix and he'll only miss 4-6 weeks.
Quote from: J-Reb on February 26, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
They had a doctor over on SportsCenter the other day - there is a possibility this is a quick fix and he'll only miss 4-6 weeks.
That's a good thing.
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Russell Westbrook has face surgery
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QuoteOklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook underwent a successful procedure to address a fracture in the zygomatic arch bone of his right cheek on Saturday, the team announced.
He has been ruled out for Sunday's game at the Los Angeles Lakers and will be re-evaluated this week to determine when he can return to play.
Westbrook suffered the injury with 2.5 seconds remaining in the fourth quarter against the Portland Trail Blazers on Friday when teammate Andre Roberson inadvertently kneed him in the face, leaving a visible dent in the side of his face.
Westbrook left the game without speaking to reporters to carry out further evaluation at a local medical facility.
Westbrook had his third consecutive triple-double against the Blazers, scoring 40 points with 13 rebounds and 11 assists. He had a historic month of February, averaging 31.2 points, 9.1 rebounds and 10.3 assists, something that has only ever been done by Hall of Famer Oscar Robertson.
Kevin Durant is set to be re-evaluated for a minor procedure he underwent last Sunday and could return as soon as this week. In seven games without Durant in February, Westbrook averaged a triple-double -- 31.2 points, 10.0 rebounds and 11.3 assists.
Westbrook, 26, is averaging 26.5 points, 6.8 rebounds and 8.1 assists in 45 games this season. He missed 14 games in November because of a fracture in his right hand.
Newly-acquired D.J. Augustin will start in place of Westbrook Sunday against the Lakers.
Last night James Harden kicked Lebron in the groin and Lebron got into it with Patrick Beverley. Tonight there was a wrestling match during the Suns/Heat game that saw both Hassan Whiteside and Alex Len get ejected.
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Kyrie Irving is pretty good.....
Kyrie and Lebron are going to be a force in the playoffs this season.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 13, 2015, 01:43:23 AM
Kyrie and Lebron are going to be a force in the playoffs this season.
Their depth will keep them from winning.
With the addition of JR Smith, Shumpert and Mozgov - they are as deep as any team in the league.
Smith is an offensive yo-yo and you never know which one you will get. Shipment is more defense than anything. Mozgov, if Im not mistaken, starts. Plus outside of them they dont have much else. Not the kind of depth I want if im going into a series with the Hawks.
Quote from: J-Reb on March 13, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
With the addition of JR Smith, Shumpert and Mozgov - they are as deep as any team in the league.
I agree with this.
Depth is overrated in the NBA playoffs. Stars will be going 40+ minutes a night, so you only need a few solid minutes from bench guys...
Of anyone in the league, I'll bet on LeBron come playoff time.
Quote from: Gravedigger on March 13, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
Depth is overrated in the NBA playoffs. Stars will be going 40+ minutes a night, so you only need a few solid minutes from bench guys...
Of anyone in the league, I'll bet on LeBron come playoff time.
Ask the Heat how that worked out last season.
Watch out for the Spurs and Pelicans. If they get into the playoffs I think they can make some noise.
Kevin Durant removed from activities
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QuoteKevin Durant has been "removed from basketball activities" and could be shut down for the season, Oklahoma City Thunder general manager Sam Presti announced Friday.
"He's not making the progress we'd hoped or expected," Presti said.
When asked whether Durant was being shut down for the season, Presti said, "Essentially, that's the direction we're headed right now."
Durant was held out of practice Thursday as he was "experiencing a little bit of soreness," Thunder coach Scott Brooks said Thursday.
Durant underwent surgery Feb. 23 to attempt to alleviate soreness and discomfort in his right foot that was being caused by a screw inserted in October during a procedure to repair a Jones fracture. After the second procedure, Durant was re-evaluated after a week, then re-evaluated again after another week, at which point Brooks updated the player's timetable to a "week or two."
"The goal is to get him back on the court healthy, whenever that is," Presti said Friday.
Durant had intensified his on-court workouts in the past couple of weeks, returning Saturday to participate in parts of practice, including some 3-on-3. But the soreness that plagued him before the All-Star break and pushed him toward the second surgery has not been resolved yet.
Up until Thursday, Durant has been said to be progressing well and on the right track.
"Unless he's able to be back on the floor without soreness, he won't be back on the floor," Presti said.
The reigning league MVP, Durant is averaging 25.4 points, 6.6 rebounds and 4.1 assists in 27 games this season.
Reacting to the news, Westgate SuperBook on Friday moved the Thunder's odds to win the NBA title from 8-1 to 20-1. On Monday, Oklahoma City, along with San Antonio, had the second-best odds in the West, behind only Golden State.
Oklahoma City beat Eastern Conference-leading Atlanta on Friday night, 123-115, to move to 39-30.
Paul George could play within week
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QuoteCLEVELAND -- The Indiana Pacers are targeting the next week for Paul George's season debut, multiple sources told ESPN.com.
The team was considering bringing back George as early as Saturday's home game against the Nets, but after the Pacers fell to the Cavs 95-92 on Friday night, coach Frank Vogel said George would not face Brooklyn.
A Pacers official said the team plans to update George's status Monday.
The Pacers repeatedly have refrained from publicly putting a timetable on George as he's progressed in his long recovery from a broken leg suffered in a Team USA intrasquad scrimmage in August.
George has been practicing for more than three weeks but still has a way to go to fully recover. During a scrimmage Thursday that was open to the media, George took part in full contact work but appeared to favor his leg at times while running.
Earlier this week, the Indianapolis Star quoted an unnamed Pacers teammate as saying George was "not even close to 100 percent." George has said if he does return this season, it would be with caution and to "get his feet wet" again, as he envisioned a full recovery by the start of next season.
After both team president Larry Bird and George expressed optimism that George would return this season, George pulled back on that sentiment recently, questioning whether his return might disrupt the team's rhythm.
But after going on a seven-game win streak that made George reconsider his plans, the Pacers entered Friday's game against the Cleveland Cavaliers on a three-game losing streak. They have fallen into a tie for the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference heading into the weekend.
The Pacers also are in a crucial point in their schedule. They are in a stretch where the play seven of eight games against teams currently in playoff position. The only minor break in that stretch is on Saturday against the Nets, who are chasing the Pacers for the final playoff spot in the East.
NBA Playoffs are set
http://www.si.com/nba/2015-nba-playoffs-coverage-analysis-preview (http://www.si.com/nba/2015-nba-playoffs-coverage-analysis-preview)
Warriors will beat the Bulls in the finals.
I'm predicting the Warriors will defeat the Cavaliers in the finals.
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 16, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
I'm predicting the Warriors will defeat the Cavaliers in the finals.
That would be one of the most entertaining finals ever. I'm loving the way the Warriors are playing at the moment.
Pelicans over Nets in Finals
Quote from: Jon on April 16, 2015, 03:48:14 PM
Pelicans over Nets in Finals
The consolation bracket finals?
Come on guys, this is clearly the Raptors year!
Why do I have this feeling like the Warriors, as good as they've been all year, won't make the championship game?
Quote from: Gates on April 16, 2015, 04:17:42 PM
Why do I have this feeling like the Warriors, as good as they've been all year, won't make the championship game?
Maybe it's because the Spurs are lurking as the sixth seed out west.
This Spurs/Clippers series has been awesome.
Quote from: Domingo on May 01, 2015, 01:44:42 AM
This Spurs/Clippers series has been awesome.
Yup, cant wait for game 7, need Blake and CP3 to go offf
Quote from: Cory on May 01, 2015, 10:39:13 AM
Yup, cant wait for game 7, need Blake and CP3 to go offf
That and Jordan not costing them points.
such a huge win, at least something exciting happened tonight
Chris Paul put the team on his back on that game winning play. Huge night for him especially after he had the hamstring injury earlier in the game.
Report out that Stephen Curry will be named NBA MVP.
Chris Webber has to be the worst game analyst ever.
ugh, gonna be a rough night for the Clippers sans Paul. Rivers is a shit passer.
Rivers is shit. Period.
I am already loving the battle between Howard and Jordan tho, two of the best big man.
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/me mic drops
Even if Austin only had one great game it has to be amazing for Doc to watch his kid do that.
And I hate the "clutch" love for Rose's shot. He was WAY off and got saved by backboard. It was luck, not clutch.
Quote from: Gravedigger on May 09, 2015, 09:41:03 AM
Even if Austin only had one great game it has to be amazing for Doc to watch his kid do that.
And I hate the "clutch" love for Rose's shot. He was WAY off and got saved by backboard. It was luck, not clutch.
Rivers has game. He just came in to college overhyped and left Duke even more overhyped. He doesn't do anything exceptionally well but can play any one of the PG, SG, SF positions adequately. He's the perfect fit behind Paul and Redick in LA, really.
Did Rose make the shot to win the game? It's clutch
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on May 09, 2015, 12:38:20 PM
Did Rose make the shot to win the game? It's clutch
Going in doesn't make it clutch, it means it went in. Same way it bugs me when people call shots bad when they are put up and then call them tough if they go in. Nope, still a bad shot, just went in. Same here. Not well executed, but bailed out by backboard.
No way he tried to bank that shot. Doesn't mean he didn't make a shot that won a game, but to me that's lucky, not clutch.
Im actually with Gravedigger on this one. Also Rivers defensively can play those positions but offensively hes a SG through and through. Still it feels like the Clippers are up 3-1 but its only 2-1
They're up 3-1 now on the overrated Rockets.
Me Re: Kevin McHale and the Hack a Jordan strat
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Quote from: Gravedigger on May 09, 2015, 09:41:03 AM
Even if Austin only had one great game it has to be amazing for Doc to watch his kid do that.
And I hate the "clutch" love for Rose's shot. He was WAY off and got saved by backboard. It was luck, not clutch.
If his shot was way off then it would have hit either side of the backboard and he would have missed. He hit it on the square bullseye. Did he mean to hit backboard? No, only Tim Duncan does, but technically speaking he was on target because the backboard can be used to make a shot and he hit it right where he needed to.
Clippers end it tonight folks.
Which star player will get injured next seems a fairer bet than anything else...
what a set of semi finals these have been.
I knew the Clippers were historically the worst franchise in NBA history when I started to watch basketball and picked my team to root for, but my god that game 6-7 stretch was pathetic.
Apparently Doc Rivers set records in that game 7. I think the two he set were being the coach whos made it to the most game 7s, and the only coach to have lost two series after being up 3-1.
Quote from: Cory on May 18, 2015, 08:24:26 PM
I knew the Clippers were historically the worst franchise in NBA history when I started to watch basketball and picked my team to root for, but my god that game 6-7 stretch was pathetic.
Don't need the bandwagonners go root for the 76ers
There the Clippers ... what did you expect.
Stay away from sixers Cory!
Also, #OneSixEleven is tonight! .28% chance is enough for me to believe it'll happen.
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on May 19, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
Stay away from sixers Cory!
Also, #OneSixEleven is tonight! .28% chance is enough for me to believe it'll happen.
No way the number one goes anywhere but LA or NY. Say it with me: "caching!" That baby was rigged the minute LA was in the top 5.
The Minnesota Timberwolves win the NBA Draft Lottery. Lakers pick second and 76ers pick third.
Quote from: J-Reb on May 19, 2015, 01:54:18 PM
No way the number one goes anywhere but LA or NY. Say it with me: "caching!" That baby was rigged the minute LA was in the top 5.
Two teams who's slot was below the top 5 would have had to move into the top 3 for LA to get bumped so it's not hard to believe that they kept their pick.
Is it just me or does it seem like they rigged the lottery to not looked rigged by not having LA or NY get #1 and having NY slip to 4?
or it just happen the way it was meant to happen
;D
There was more chatter about the Lakers getting the second pick than anything else last night, lol.
Quote from: Black Death on May 20, 2015, 01:23:25 AM
or it just happen the way it was meant to happen
;D
I know. I don't believe in the lottery conspiracies, but they are fun to perpetuate...
For the first time in a long time, they have a young core in Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle and Okafor/Towns that could actually be competitive. I'm not convinced that they'll actually keep the pick - I'm halfway expecting a sign-and-trade with the Cavs for Kevin Love.
Quote from: J-Reb on May 20, 2015, 11:00:26 AM
For the first time in a long time, they have a young core in Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle and Okafor/Towns that could actually be competitive. I'm not convinced that they'll actually keep the pick - I'm halfway expecting a sign-and-trade with the Cavs for Kevin Love.
We will keep the pick, then sign Kevin Love in FA.
Quote from: Jon on May 20, 2015, 11:07:38 AM
We will keep the pick, then sign Kevin Love in FA.
Hopefully he fits in better there than he did in Cleveland...
Quote from: J-Reb on May 20, 2015, 11:00:26 AM
For the first time in a long time, they have a young core in Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle and Okafor/Towns that could actually be competitive. I'm not convinced that they'll actually keep the pick - I'm halfway expecting a sign-and-trade with the Cavs for Kevin Love.
Minnesota has a better core than that in my opinion. LaVine, Wiggins, Dieng, Martin, and Okafor/Towns plus Pekovic, Muhammed, and Rubio. If they can keep from getting injured that'll be a team on the rise very soon.
Oh, I agree Minnesota is going to have a better young core than L.A. but they don't have the advantage of drawing free agents like the Lakers can.
Quote from: J-Reb on May 20, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
Oh, I agree Minnesota is going to have a better young core than L.A. but they don't have the advantage of drawing free agents like the Lakers can.
Going by how the Lakers have done in recent years, I'd say their free agent drawing power is overrated compared to how they were in years past.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 20, 2015, 03:35:12 PM
Going by how the Lakers have done in recent years, I'd say their free agent drawing power is overrated compared to how they were in years past.
But the Lakers will always have the drawing power of being the Lakers (historically speaking) where as I don't think the Wolves can say the same thing.
Quote from: Gates on May 20, 2015, 03:56:09 PM
But the Lakers will always have the drawing power of being the Lakers (historically speaking) where as I don't think the Wolves can say the same thing.
No but the key to the lakers past is dead (dr. Buss) tommy boy buss has ruined that drawing power with his ineptness.
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on May 20, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
No but the key to the lakers past is dead (dr. Buss) tommy boy buss has ruined that drawing power with his ineptness.
And no one likes Kobe....
Kobe's a dick. He was on the local Philly news every fucking day when he was in high school. They reported live from his prom, where he took Brandy. I hated that ass hat before he was ever drafted.
Quote from: Mike Powers on May 20, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
Kobe's a dick. He was on the local Philly news every fucking day when he was in high school. They reported live from his prom, where he took Brandy. I hated that ass hat before he was ever drafted.
THey hate us cuz they aint us
Lebron is back in the Finals with the Cavs. They just bulldozed the Hawks for the series sweep.
Warriors vs. Cavs in the NBA Finals. Who do you got?
Sticking with my prediction
Quote from: GM Franchise on April 16, 2015, 03:45:16 PM
I'm predicting the Warriors will defeat the Cavaliers in the finals.
If the Cavs were as healthy as the Warriors I'd pick them, but they've already gotten max out of Smith, Shumpert, Mozgov, etc., and this is when they run into a, at least right now, superior team.
Warriors in 6.
Warriors in 6 as well. Lebron will have 1-2 amazing nights but the Warriors are too strong for them.
Quote from: Gravedigger on May 28, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
If the Cavs were as healthy as the Warriors I'd pick them, but they've already gotten max out of Smith, Shumpert, Mozgov, etc., and this is when they run into a, at least right now, superior team.
Warriors in 6.
Even with a healthy Love - the Warriors still have too much offense for the Cavs. The Warriors can throw Draymond Green, Harrison Barnes and Iguadala at James; they won't stop him but they have the bodies to slow him down a little.
If Kyrie is healthy, it's the Cavs. Why? Because Lebrons been there before, he is literally the only person on either team with real impact to be there. Also, if you have two of the best three players in a series, you win 90% of the time, Kyrie is better than Klay, IMO.
Cavs in 6 ... I expect something similar to the Thunder Heat series
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on May 28, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
If Kyrie is healthy, it's the Cavs. Why? Because Lebrons been there before, he is literally the only person on either team with real impact to be there. Also, if you have two of the best three players in a series, you win 90% of the time, Kyrie is better than Klay, IMO.
Well with Klay out indefinitely, if Kyrie can play it's done.
Rethinking my prediction with Klay's status up in the air....
Have to go with Cavs.
Going with Cavs in 5.
I want Warriors to win though. But this will be the year LeBron gets Cleveland their title.
Warriors in 6.
At the beginning of the playoffs I said the Warriors wouldn't be here. With Klay dealing with a concussion, I think I'm still going to take them in 7 to win.
Though if the Cavs win, at least we won't have to hear about him trying to bring the title to the Cavs anymore...
Derrick Rose cashes in Money in the Bank...
Warriors in 7, cause good things can't happen to Cleveland.
Quote from: T-Mignon on May 31, 2015, 05:07:15 PM
Warriors in 7, cause good things can't happen to Cleveland.
Warriors in 5 ... and Irving gone with season ending knee surgery
just another proof the god hates Cleveland
Quote from: Black Death on June 05, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
Warriors in 5 ... and Irving gone with season ending knee surgery
just another proof the god hates Cleveland
Changing to sweep for Warriors
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on June 05, 2015, 10:38:13 PM
Changing to sweep for Warriors
Ditto especially with the Irving injury. At best it'll be 4-1 and that's only if Lebron sets the Finals scoring record in one of the games.
Its the NBA, they wont let LeBron get swept in the finals.
Quote from: Justin on June 06, 2015, 08:17:17 PM
Its the NBA, they wont let LeBron get swept in the finals.
He has before.
Quote from: Jon on June 06, 2015, 08:40:11 PM
He has before.
He didn't have the storyline that he has now.
Quote from: Justin on June 07, 2015, 09:24:59 AM
He didn't have the storyline that he has now.
Sure he did.
Quote from: Jon on June 07, 2015, 09:46:19 AM
Sure he did.
What, the fact that he played with back bunch of scrubs and made it to the finals in the usual subpar east? Not much of a story.
But now. ...he returns back home and joins another big three. One of them goes out early in the playoffs. Next one goes out in game one of the finals to leave him the sole remaining member of the big three. Its his triumphant return home and will not let getting swept happen. Warriors when the three game at then in game four he creates a Steph Curry turnover with 12 seconds left and goes the opposite in for a dunk. They win by two in a game where he has 52 points, 13 assists, and 15 rebounds. They dont get swept so he looks like a superhero because of it. They go back to Golden State for game five, get blown out and the Warriors win on their home court in front of the best crowd in the league.
The Clippers are trading Matt Barnes and Spencer Hawes to the Hornets for Lance Stephenson
don't tell my the hornets are taking that shitty deal
Quote from: Black Death on June 15, 2015, 09:06:59 PM
don't tell my the hornets are taking that shitty deal
They're trading for Matt Barnes! *looks at big red button on console*
Quote from: GM Franchise on June 15, 2015, 09:27:55 PM
They're trading for Matt Barnes! *looks at big red button on console*
(http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/browse/big-red-button-doomsday-device-usb-hub.jpg)
We have a plan.....we have a plan.....I hope we have a plan.
I actually like that trade better for the Bobcats.
Quote from: Jon on June 16, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
I actually like that trade better for the Bobcats.
Hornets!!!!
Barnes did nothing in the playoffs, so I get the move. Wonder if the Truth is on his way as well.
Quote from: Cory on June 16, 2015, 10:01:06 AM
Barnes did nothing in the playoffs, so I get the move. Wonder if the Truth is on his way as well.
Barnes is a league average 3-and-D. He's a couple inches taller than Stephenson, but considerably less talented offensively. It's a wash. However, with Hawes included, it'll help lessen the wear and tear on Jefferson. It will also help spread the floor and open things up for big Al to work down low, something they missed terribly last season with Josh McRoberts heading to Miami.
Quote from: J-Reb on June 16, 2015, 10:13:16 AM
Barnes is a league average 3-and-D. He's a couple inches taller than Stephenson, but considerably less talented offensively. It's a wash. However, with Hawes included, it'll help lessen the wear and tear on Jefferson. It will also help spread the floor and open things up for big Al to work down low, something they missed terribly last season with Josh McRoberts heading to Miami.
This guy gets it.
The Golden State Warriors are the NBA Champions.
Who was MVP?
Igoudala
Kevin Love re-signs with the Cavs.
Anthony Davis re-signs with the Pelicans.
The contracts are FBL level ludicrous.
The Truth to LAC, really hope we keep DeAndre Jordan, One of the main reasons I picked the Clippers to be my team.
Quote from: Cory on July 02, 2015, 07:52:53 AM
The Truth to LAC, really hope we keep DeAndre Jordan, One of the main reasons I picked the Clippers to be my team.
Who were you a fan of before that?
Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2015, 08:27:51 AM
Who were you a fan of before that?
No one, never watched basketball. Maybe the Raptors because they were the only Canadian team, but I would only occasionally watch March Madness for my only basketball viewing and that was more of there were no sports I liked going on in March. I remember Blake at Oklahoma was a big deal one year and then when I went on Vacation to CUBA the only thing on in English was March Madness so a week of that and I got hooked.
I didnt want to pick a perennial winner and historically the Clippers are one of the worst teams in NBA history so figured going with them now will be rewarding if they end up winning a Championship....plus I remember Blake was unreal at Oklahoma, and then after I saw this, I was like "yeah, this team is fun to watch".
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTkN2q6sUUk#)
You just picked the wrong L.A. team is all.
Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
You just picked the wrong L.A. team is all.
Not going by the last two seasons... :D
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 02, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
Not going by the last two seasons... :D
You're gonna need more than 2 seasons to catch up...
All-time series
Lakers 98–39
Sam Hinkie is God, bow down to The Hink
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on July 02, 2015, 10:16:40 AM
Sam Hinkie is God, bow down to The Hink
Not really... it's not like it made the Sixers a team to beat in the East.
It was more a dumb move by the Kings as they are kind of going all-in for this season for some reason.
Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
You just picked the wrong L.A. team is all.
yep
Where were all these Clipper fans when i was the only one repoing during the Danny Manning years!?
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on July 02, 2015, 02:12:23 PM
Where were all these Clipper fans when i was the only one repoing during the Danny Manning years!?
Probably busy being Laker fans.... because that is the majority of your fan base now. Bandwagon hoppers.
I prefer this dunk....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRN7iJ5CqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRN7iJ5CqQ)
I'm slightly worried by this free agency window for Toronto...we have a gaping hole at the 4 yet aside from Aldridge, we haven't been in on many of the big forwards that we would need. DeMarre Carroll is great and all, but if we don't have a good PF, it's going to be just like the last few years. Nice back court, big center, nothing to pair him with. We get out rebounded more than we should because PF rarely seems like a priority for us.
None better than...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q)
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on July 02, 2015, 02:12:23 PM
Where were all these Clipper fans when i was the only one repoing during the Danny Manning years!?
What about during the Olowokandi Era?
Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2015, 05:41:13 PM
None better than...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMrPjl-927Q)
II used to have that poster taped to my dorm room wall when I was afreshman in college. n
Quote from: Justin on July 02, 2015, 06:22:18 PM
II used to have that poster taped to my dorm room wall when I was afreshman in college. n
Hehe
Justin said the n word.
Quote from: Jon on July 02, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
You just picked the wrong L.A. team is all.
NOPE......
Nevermind all that shit ... HERE COMES DEANDRE JORDAN!!!
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on July 08, 2015, 11:19:29 PM
Nevermind all that shit ... HERE COMES DEANDRE JORDAN!!!
Pumped.
Hell to the Yeah!! Now this doesn't mean anything outside of we at least get to continue to tread water. Still expect only getting to the WCF
(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11709502_10153340913616877_4449386778506843858_n.jpg?oh=8b5bdb1533bdbd250617b873c43a3fc4&oe=56278015)
Yeah, I think they gotta keep Crawford too.
Quote from: Cory on July 09, 2015, 12:10:50 AM
Yeah, I think they gotta keep Crawford too.
We still need a true backup PG and a better backup big than Big Baby ... Blake played WAY to many minutes and was exhausted in that Houston series.
If he could stay healthy Amar'e could be a decent bench option for the Clips... big if though.
Anyone over Turkolu
Hi I am jimmy butler...I just got a shit load of cash after one standout year...#concern
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 09, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
Hi I am jimmy butler...I just got a shit load of cash after one standout year...#concern
Hes worth every penny. Barring injury he will get better
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 09, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
Hi I am jimmy butler...I just got a shit load of cash after one standout year...#concern
I read today Enes Kanter got an offer sheet for 4 years, 70 million...
Butler is a HOFer compared to Kanter...
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 09, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
I read today Enes Kanter got an offer sheet for 4 years, 70 million...
Butler is a HOFer compared to Kanter...
And apparently the Thunder are going to match that offer sheet...
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 09, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
Hi I am jimmy butler...I just got a shit load of cash after one standout year...#concern
Jimmy Butler is one of the few players who actually works on his game to improve and it has shown. He will continue to improve and will be a consistent all-star. You have no reason to worry.
I appreciate I have 3 opinions that differ. None of which are Bulls fans lol. I think the difference I see is the guy had one breakout season, albeit a great one and got THE DEAL of the century for it. I don't doubt his committment to the cause and frankly with Derrick Rose probably never back to his original form and his "management" constantly hurting his relationship with the Bulls we need Butler, but it seems a heck of a lot of cash in my opinion...
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 11, 2015, 05:15:16 AM
I appreciate I have 3 opinions that differ. None of which are Bulls fans lol. I think the difference I see is the guy had one breakout season, albeit a great one and got THE DEAL of the century for it. I don't doubt his committment to the cause and frankly with Derrick Rose probably never back to his original form and his "management" constantly hurting his relationship with the Bulls we need Butler, but it seems a heck of a lot of cash in my opinion...
i agree with you ian , I would be concern also , a lot of money , brings a lot of pressure also
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 11, 2015, 05:15:16 AM
I appreciate I have 3 opinions that differ. None of which are Bulls fans lol. I think the difference I see is the guy had one breakout season, albeit a great one and got THE DEAL of the century for it. I don't doubt his committment to the cause and frankly with Derrick Rose probably never back to his original form and his "management" constantly hurting his relationship with the Bulls we need Butler, but it seems a heck of a lot of cash in my opinion...
When the salary cap takes a jump that makes any FBL cap increase look pedestrian, it won't be a lot of cash. Seemingly, everyone else, smartly, are taking 2-3 years deal, mainly with an option in that third year to provide the first crack at the new salary and new max contract. In two years, that 19 mil a year for an all star, two way player, potential All-NBA, its a steal.
I'd be more concern that your front office cut ties with Thibs who had a team playing with some duds making it into the second round of the playoffs often.
From what I've seen the only superstar/max deal guy who's doing the 2 year deal thing is LeBron.
Butler will be worth his deal within the current salary structure of the NBA. Bulls fans should be happy with the signing. If not, ship him to Boston...
Thibs thing hasn't settled well with me at all...no more cheers for "Paxson for 3!!!!!!!!!! "
Quote from: Ian "Wolfie" Trumps on July 11, 2015, 03:56:00 PM
Thibs thing hasn't settled well with me at all...no more cheers for "Paxson for 3!!!!!!!!!! "
Firing Thibs was the right move. The team had maxed out as far as they were going to go. They may not be better with Hoiberg (in fact I suspect they will regress) but they would not win a title with Thibs as the head coach and that should be the organization's goal. It's the same as firing Doug Collins and hiring Phil Jackson way back when.
Flip Saunders passed away today from cancer.
RIP FLIP
Lets go Raps
jesus that was bad.
I joined Cavs Nation for a day as a sarcastic birthday present since my best female friend is from Cleveland and didn't want me to buy her anything since I paid for the booth at the club for her birthday. This is what happened the next day lol. I bring them luck.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 26, 2016, 06:43:54 PM
I joined Cavs Nation for a day as a sarcastic birthday present since my best female friend is from Cleveland and didn't want me to buy her anything since I paid for the booth at the club for her birthday. This is what happened the next day lol. I bring them luck.
Maybe...or it's just that the Raptors can't play basketball in Cleveland...
Then again, the Cavs can't play basketball (as good) in Toronto...
Quote from: Gates on May 26, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
Maybe...or it's just that the Raptors can't play basketball in Cleveland...
Then again, the Cavs can't play basketball (as good) in Toronto...
That's true too. We'll see but the first half of that game was a genocide on the level that the United Nations might have to hold a tribunal on the Cavs for that massacre they unleashed on the Raps.
I think a professional sports team in a finals that loses by almost 40 should have to be relegated.
Quote from: Cory on May 26, 2016, 06:58:20 PM
I think a professional sports team in a finals that loses by almost 40 should have to be relegated.
I'm pretty sure the NBA would love to have them removed from the league. Then they wouldn't have their numbers suffer.
Oh no how terrible for the NBA to allow the Raptors to win games and get to the conference finals...
Give me a break guys, they certainly earned there way here.
Quote from: T-Long on May 26, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
Oh no how terrible for the NBA to allow the Raptors to win games and get to the conference finals...
Give me a break guys, they certainly earned there way here.
Was someone talking about how they didn't deserve to be there? They earned it. My comment was in regards to TV numbers (I mean, there's a reason why games featuring Toronto are either non existent during the season or start earlier then a typical prime time game in the playoffs), not about whether or not the NBA is fixing things against Toronto. I know that's been the narrative up here lately because our athletes are whiners.
Warriors need to win this otherwise it's over.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 26, 2016, 09:24:51 PM
Warriors need to win this otherwise it's over.
John Madden? Is that you?
Quote from: J-Reb on May 26, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
John Madden? Is that you?
Or a Magic Johnson tweet...
You know they won the game...they had more points than the other team
Quote from: Black Death on May 27, 2016, 01:00:35 AM
You know they won the game...they had more points than the other team
Is that how you win?
Quote from: J-Reb on May 26, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
John Madden? Is that you?
They played like shit the last few games. They finally got their act together last night and played like they had been playing all season long.
Cavs are back in the Finals. Finally won a game on the road to do it too. Props to the Raptors fans for cheering their team on big time after knowing it was over.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 27, 2016, 11:43:00 PM
Cavs are back in the Finals. Finally won a game on the road to do it too. Props to the Raptors fans for cheering their team on big time after knowing it was over.
Yeah, 4 wins on the road prior means nothing.....
Cavs had not beaten raptors at there place all year ...
Quote from: Black Death on May 28, 2016, 01:49:17 AM
Cavs had not beaten raptors at there place all year ...
BD gets it.
Klay was super nova hot ... Curry ... MVP doing MVP things at the end
Monday is going to be epic ... can not wait
NBA Finals starts tonight, who y'all got - Cavs or Warriors?
Warriors in 6.
I say this is a 7 game epic with the Warriors pulling off the win
Warriors in 5.
Cavs in 6
Warriors with the sweep.
Yup, get the bodybag ready.
Quote from: Jon on June 03, 2016, 05:06:04 PM
N2LATE
Yeah I know but for the record I predicted that before the series started.
I'd be really shocked if they swept them. Winning twice in Cleveland is no easy task. And the fact LBJ single-handily beat the Warriors twice in the last Finals without Love and Kyrie.
If they get swept LBJ goes back to Miami
I hope they lose, just so that the ridiculous "is LeBron the greatest ever" discussion can die already. 2-5 in the Finals cements it.
[spoiler]He's not[/spoiler]
Well, the season was fun.... It's over now.
I though this Cavs team would be better this time around. Maybe not win it all, but be closer. Turns out if LeBron isn't amazing they get killed. In two games he's been good, but that's not enough...
I laugh at some of you...
Probably the same that thought it was all over for the Warriors when they got killed back to back games against the Thunder and went down 3-1.
Things can change back in Cleveland.
At least give the Cavs a chance at home before calling this series a sweep.
Now if the Warriors go out and dominate again in Game 3 in Cleveland then okay... pull out the brooms. But all it takes is one game to switch the momentum in a series. Has to be Game 3 for Cleveland or they are finished though.
I'll support LeBron as much as anyone out there, but his team is mentally weak. They've shut down. I don't think they'll be swept, but they aren't winning the series....
Still think this is a repeat of the Cavs/Raps.
Quote from: Gravedigger on June 05, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
Well, the season was fun.... It's over now.
I though this Cavs team would be better this time around. Maybe not win it all, but be closer. Turns out if LeBron isn't amazing they get killed. In two games he's been good, but that's not enough...
My bad?
Glad the Cavs won. Hopefully the idiots who hate on LeBron will finally shut the hell up....
That block he had late in the 4th was simply unreal, the right team won and Lebron proved once again why he's the undisputed best player in basketball.
I just got up to realize its 18 minutes til work. On my other monitor I'm sending the email to cancel class.
Believeland.
Was a fantastic game with a really really really really really sloppy 4th quarter.
That shot by Kyrie... fucking hell. This finals performance was his coming of age party. Dude has ice in his veins.
Congrats Doug! I was slightly pulling for Cleveland after watching that Believeland 30 for 30... but I still hate Lebron. He played pretty fantastic though as well.
For as good as Steph is... he missed a lot of wide open 3's in the last 3 games in pivotal moments. Wasn't meant to be this time around.
That game was FANTASTIC to watch. My best friend is from Cleveland and she about had a damn heart attack watching this game. It was great at the bar we were at. There was almost all Warriors fans and once the game was over they just quickly went home haha.
Lebron James led everyone in points, assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks. First player ever to do so in the NBA Finals. That performance by him over 7 games was amazing. No one will likely ever match that feat.
After the bar we hit up Treasure Island and partied it up. Of course we when got home we found out the Cavs were at XS Nightclub and that's why it was so dead everywhere else. Well that and EDC haha.
Word.
https://vine.co/v/5BuxJdlQLYQ
Derrick Rose traded to the Knicks.
Free Agency.....
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?
Are you in the NBA? Great, here's 64757446656 million dollars....
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 01, 2016, 05:38:57 PM
Free Agency.....
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?
Are you in the NBA? Great, here's 64757446656 million dollars....
It's going to not look so bad next year or the year after. But I mean DeMar's contract that he signed, he'll make almost as much in just that contract as Lebron has made in his entire career.
And people give Black death a hard time for the money he handed out in FBL....
Mike Conley is not worth $153 million...nowhere close
And just like that... the Lakers are back!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Hell yeah... Think of the lineage...
Mikan.... Wilt... Kareem... Shaq.... MOZGOV!!!!!!!!!!
Lakers ...
(http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg)
I just don't know anymore...
The NBA has lost its damn mind with some of these shit contracts that are being paid out. There's a lot of money, ridiculous amounts of money, being paid out for mediocre talent.
This what happens when you cap a league with 12 players per team. Either this or the best get 60MM a year.
Mike Conley is the highest paid player in the NBA right now. Let that sink in for a minute...
(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516227_1437161669636004_3828887163115897353_n.jpg?oh=e581a60a3345c0a2ab118e6482bdc09c&oe=58322351)
Here's another one that's mind blowing...
(https://scontent.flas1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516452_1436990862986418_9175499868978877201_n.jpg?oh=58c10c65def0593d44c10524af84242e&oe=57F87080)
Quote from: The TeeJ of Philly on July 02, 2016, 07:29:21 PM
This what happens when you have a 94MM salary cap in a league with 12 players per team. Either this or the best get 60MM a year.
I never knew Nigel Falls was a real agent
And just think, the cap goes up again next season....
Durant to the Warriors...
My god...
Quote from: Jon on July 04, 2016, 11:50:18 AM
Durant to the Warriors...
My god...
Well said...
So gutless. Just solidified that he won't go down as one of the all time best. No chance at cracking the top 10-15 anymore....
Yes, I'm bitter right now as a Celtics fan, but if he'd picked any of his options other than GS he would have showed some balls. Now he's Steph's wingman...
Durant took the cheap way out. He's desperate for a championship and is taking the pussy route to get it.
If I was in his shoes and been so close to a title but never having the team or luck to actually get it, I'd take the deal to GS.
This is the kinda shit that makes me not wanna seriously get into the NBA, there only 3-4 teams and everyone else.
When the Celtics made the Big 3 (Pierce, Allen, Garnett) and it worked. Of course that would be the direction the NBA would go towards.
I actually had a lot of respect for the Warriors because they drafted their team (for the most part).
As for Durant, I don't blame him. I mean the Warriors will now have Curry, Klay, Durant, Draymond, Iggy, Livingston.... yadda yadda yadda. Just stupid and I'd be shocked if they didn't win it all (if they can stay healthy).
And the NBA has prospered for this super teams. I think (someone correct me if I'm wrong), the NBA profits have been continually increasing. So people are liking the product and paying for it.
Besides the Warriors are gonna be in for a rude awakening when Mozgov and the Lakers come to town!
Kinda hoping LeBron signs with the Spurs to take these guys out before the finals....
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 02:14:36 PM
Kinda hoping LeBron signs with the Spurs to take these guys out before the finals....
That's the whole reason the super teams are forming up. They're all afraid of Lebron, the best player in the world. So they have to join forces to get their glory. Lebron has made the finals six years in a row and led the charge against GSW from a 3-1 deficit. That's the whole reason Durant wussed out and did this.
Man y'all clowns thinking this hurts KD legacy.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 04, 2016, 02:44:20 PM
That's the whole reason the super teams are forming up. They're all afraid of Lebron, the best player in the world. So they have to join forces to get their glory. Lebron has made the finals six years in a row and led the charge against GSW from a 3-1 deficit. That's the whole reason Durant wussed out and did this.
I don't think people are afraid of Lebron, lol. Lebron went to Miami to make a superteam... I guess he was afraid of the Thunder... the Spurs...? That's just dumb logic.
He went to Warriors because it was his best shot at winning a ring NOW. That's it. That's all it is. Ya'll think too much into it.
And Pancho... I don't think it hurts his legacy now, only if he ends up not winning with them will it hurt.
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on July 04, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Man y'all clowns thinking this hurts KD legacy.
KD is joining the best regular season team of all-time, a two time finalist that was a shot or two from being back to back champs, and who also has the two time reigning MVP....
Basically he's saying he can't win in OKC because he's not good enough so he'll join the team that beat him...
NBA benefits from having parody more than having 1 or 2 super teams. They would rather have like 5 more great teams fighting out for the title in each division, means more people showing interest, watching games ,etc which means more revenue for them as whole, it one of the reasons they block the CP3 trade to Lakers years back ( still bitter about that )
On paper , KD going to GS is great for him and GS . But can he now be the 2 man in that system , He going to go from being the man in OKC to being the 2 or even third man in the GS system. That going to being intresting to watch if nothing else. Sometimes major stars in one place does not make a championship , ( Lakers in 2003 as a example with Malone , Shaq , Kobe and Payton )
Guess he changed his mind since then....
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 04:05:40 PM
Guess he changed his mind since then....
You haven't changed your mind on any stances from 6 years ago?
If you cant beat em, join em.
That's all that really needs to be said about this situation period.
Super Team 2, the Knicks. They just signed Brandon Jennings.
Pau Gasol to the Spurs.
Just when NBA was getting interesting again this shit happens.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
KD is joining the best regular season team of all-time, a two time finalist that was a shot or two from being back to back champs, and who also has the two time reigning MVP....
Basically he's saying he can't win in OKC because he's not good enough so he'll join the team that beat him...
This I agree with.
Quote from: Jon on July 04, 2016, 03:21:11 PM
I don't think people are afraid of Lebron, lol. Lebron went to Miami to make a superteam... I guess he was afraid of the Thunder... the Spurs...? That's just dumb logic.
He went to Warriors because it was his best shot at winning a ring NOW. That's it. That's all it is. Ya'll think too much into it.
Lebron made the Warriors look like punks and Kyrie, who schooled Chef Curry, helped him do it. The Thunder could take down the Warriors after that Orlando trade if he re-signed. They had the deepest roster in the NBA. The Spurs a monster because of good coaching and smart signings. He should be afraid of the Spurs with Gasol arriving. Durant is a chump as it relates to this move, bottom line.
He wants a ring, yeah, but this "winning is all that matters" mindset now days is stupid. NBA was better back in the day and MJ was winning all the rings whereas the other superstars stayed put for the most part. Bunch of attention whore punks now days. 8)
Jennings is the same position as Rose.... Phil just seems to be signing random players at this point. Not even close to a Super Team....
They're the 4th best in the East at best.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 04, 2016, 04:53:05 PM
He wants a ring, yeah, but this "winning is all that matters" mindset now days is stupid. NBA was better back in the day and MJ was winning all the rings whereas the other superstars stayed put for the most part. Bunch of attention whore punks now days. 8)
So athletes shouldn't want to win? I mean, I get that you're saying, he should stay put in OKC and try and win there rather then leave and chase a ring, but you can't fault him for wanting to win a title. Every player wants to win one, and if he doesn't think his team is good enough to do it, why not go somewhere where you can win one sooner.
Maybe he was going to leave OKC anyways, and he wanted to take a shot at a title before going to a different team where he's the man again.
I don't follow NBA closely, so I might be off base but you see the title chase in every sport. Not in the super team sense, but the chase is still real.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 04, 2016, 04:53:05 PM
Lebron made the Warriors look like punks and Kyrie, who schooled Chef Curry, helped him do it. The Thunder could take down the Warriors after that Orlando trade if he re-signed. They had the deepest roster in the NBA. The Spurs a monster because of good coaching and smart signings. He should be afraid of the Spurs with Gasol arriving. Durant is a chump as it relates to this move, bottom line.
He wants a ring, yeah, but this "winning is all that matters" mindset now days is stupid. NBA was better back in the day and MJ was winning all the rings whereas the other superstars stayed put for the most part. Bunch of attention whore punks now days. 8)
Was Lebron a chump when he left to Miami?
Quote from: Jon on July 04, 2016, 06:01:02 PM
Was Lebron a chump when he left to Miami?
I maintain he was a chump for making a huge spectacle out of it more so then going.
Quote from: Gates on July 04, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
I maintain he was a chump for making a huge spectacle out of it more so then going.
^^^^^
Quote from: Gates on July 04, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
I maintain he was a chump for making a huge spectacle out of it more so then going.
Even he regrets The Decision. Yeah, he was a giant douche for that. I still have hatred for him for that maneuver. All is forgiven now though, right? lol
I still don't have any issues with Durant going to GS or Lebron/Bosh going to Miami or Garnett/Allen going to Boston.
It's not like he chased the money. He's chasing a championship and he landed in the best position for him to do that.
No problem with it also ... but can he now humble himself and not be the man in GS or will he clash with the guys there wanting the ball at the end of the game.. That the real question.
So can they afford to have Curry/Klay/Durant/Green and the depth off the bench still? I wonder how much less Durant took to go to GS.
Quote from: Cory on July 04, 2016, 06:34:49 PM
So can they afford to have Curry/Klay/Durant/Green and the depth off the bench still? I wonder how much less Durant took to go to GS.
Well, Barnes and Bogut got ousted I heard so the depth might not be as much as it was.
And since it was mentioned...as a native of Toronto (and with the Raptors being the team I cheer for when I do), I don't believe I hated on Bosh for moving to Miami. I knew he wouldn't win it in Toronto, and knew he would never be able to be the guy. I was more of a big 2.5 in Miami to me lol (okay, maybe that is hate on him).
Everything with LeBron became forgiven when he went back to Cleveland.
As for whether or not Durant can be one of the team and not be the guy...I suspect he wouldn't have gone to GS if he didn't think he could. I think this is just a stop over for him. Win a title (maybe two) and then move on to be the guy somewhere else. I mean unless he hurts himself, people will still be lined up to sign him after this contract/if he opts out.
Quote from: Jon on July 04, 2016, 06:01:02 PM
Was Lebron a chump when he left to Miami?
LeBron didn't join a 73 win team that just knocked him out of the playoffs....
LeBron did it first so back off KD...only flack LeBron got was the way he announced.
Plus KD realized what I've been saying the last 3 or so years on these boards....he and Westbrook cannot win a title together.
Are you kidding? Go to any sports webpage message board. LeBron still gets shit for winning with Miami to this day. And he didn't leave Westbrook and company. He left a team that was the worst in the NBA the next year without him. He also didn't join 3 All-NBA players.
This is not the same. I supported LeBron choice from day one. Durant is gutless.
Quote from: Jon on July 04, 2016, 06:01:02 PM
Was Lebron a chump when he left to Miami?
Yeah he was and then he did the right thing, went back to Cleveland, and ended the drought. He was a chump, now he's a champ. 8)
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 07:13:36 PM
Are you kidding? Go to any sports webpage message board. LeBron still gets shit for winning with Miami to this day. And he didn't leave Westbrook and company. He left a team that was the worst in the NBA the next year without him. He also didn't join 3 All-NBA players.
This is not the same. I supported LeBron choice from day one. Durant is gutless.
Bosh and Wade are good but there's also Iggy in the mix too. That's five high level players on one team.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 06:57:50 PM
LeBron didn't join a 73 win team that just knocked him out of the playoffs....
This, and he didn't join the best regular season team of all time either. Digger's got the right idea about this.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 05:20:55 PM
Jennings is the same position as Rose.... Phil just seems to be signing random players at this point. Not even close to a Super Team....
They're the 4th best in the East at best.
They'll be super, alright. At least they're doing something. The Lakers, who were in a similar position, signed Mozgov for a shit deal. At least they drafted good lol.
Lakers sign Mozgov on the belief that he going to get healthy and play like he did few years back. Which in my eyes is dumb as shit , but hey , I got to live with it now.
It a feeling of the rich just got richer ...as a Lakers fan I know all about that. ;)
Lakers are a train wreck right now. Hopefully for them the young guys develop, and maybe they get Westbrook next summer. They are at least 3 years from contending right now, maybe more. The Wolves young core is better...
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
Lakers are a train wreck right now. Hopefully for them the young guys develop, and maybe they get Westbrook next summer. They are at least 3 years from contending right now, maybe more. The Wolves young core is better...
I love the Wolves core. They got some ballers on that team.
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
Lakers are a train wreck right now. Hopefully for them the young guys develop, and maybe they get Westbrook next summer. They are at least 3 years from contending right now, maybe more. The Wolves young core is better...
that pretty much my thoughts also
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 04, 2016, 09:04:58 PM
I love the Wolves core. They got some ballers on that team.
They got two legitimate ballers...the rest is athleticism that will translate into some good stat lines from time to time. Luckily they got a coach that can coach.
Looks like the Super Team War is continuing. Dwayne Wade is meeting with the Cavs in Cleveland tomorrow. 8)
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
KD is joining the best regular season team of all-time, a two time finalist that was a shot or two from being back to back champs, and who also has the two time reigning MVP....
Basically he's saying he can't win in OKC because he's not good enough so he'll join the team that beat him...
And .....
Is Charles Barkley somehow more noble for never joining the Bulls? This is nonsense.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 05, 2016, 01:30:38 AM
Looks like the Super Team War is continuing. Dwayne Wade is meeting with the Cavs in Cleveland tomorrow. 8)
offer of two years from heat worth 40 million
don't think he going to leave Miami
Quote from: Gravedigger on July 04, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
Lakers are a train wreck right now. Hopefully for them the young guys develop, and maybe they get Westbrook next summer. They are at least 3 years from contending right now, maybe more. The Wolves young core is better...
I'm sure the thought of Westbrook leaving next summer had a lot to do with KD's decision as well. Saw the writing on the wall.
I have no doubts that Westbrook is going to book it to LA. 8)
Quote from: Jon on July 05, 2016, 08:00:06 AM
I'm sure the thought of Westbrook leaving next summer had a lot to do with KD's decision as well. Saw the writing on the wall.
I have no doubts that Westbrook is going to book it to LA. 8)
I am down with that
Loved the Raptors bringing in the signing to get them over the hump.
Quote from: Cory on July 05, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
Loved the Raptors bringing in the signing to get them over the hump.
Huh?
Quote from: Jon on July 05, 2016, 03:24:21 PM
Huh?
All the talk in Canada was Ujiri was gonna resign DeRosen and then add the one player (presumably a PF) to help Toronto take the next step. They don't have crazy money to spend, but they certainly had assets worth trading.
I figured they would try and build from franchise bests, but now they are worse than when the season ended. Ibaka, Gasol and Horford were the big three that had been linked but nothing came through.
We got instead one of the more criticized picks in the top 10 in Poeltl.
I thought you were being sarcastic... but wasn't sure.
"LEBRON ISNT ON MJS LEVEL BECAUSE HE DONT HAVE SIX RINGS!"
>>Hammer a guy for chasing rings in his prime.
Or my personal favorite.
>>Non Atheletic Regular Person (NARP) tells super athlete he is a coward for taking a better job.
Seriously, if people reacted to NARPs going to new jobs the way they do to athletes, people would off themselves
At the end of the day, your goal as a competitor is to win. He did what he had to do to put himself in the best position to win.
As it turns out basketball is KD's job....even though it's a game to us. Weird huh?
He couldn't beat them so he joined them. That's what it comes down to.
Quote from: GM Franchise on July 05, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
He couldn't beat them so he joined them. That's what it comes down to.
Quote from: Cory on July 04, 2016, 04:25:35 PM
If you cant beat em, join em.
That's all that really needs to be said about this situation period.
Get. Over. It.
well ... got to admit , it got people talking ... I say more power to him
It is KD's job to play basketball. Loyalty isn't a thing. How many of you would forgo a better position with a different company out of some perceived loyalty? I bet for those of us working jobs is retail or service, the answer is none of us. Golden State offers KD money, offers him a chance to win, oh and also offers him an easier time on the court. Sounds like an easy decision to me, and one that should be applauded, not derided.
After he retires the only thing anyone is going to do is count rings. Shaq has four, but not with the team that drafted him. But hey we remember Shaq as an all time great anyway!
Quote from: Black Death on July 05, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
well ... got to admit , it got people talking ... I say more power to him
Did you see the Stephen A. Smith rants about this? Absolute gold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bp9kJucv44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bp9kJucv44)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtMz7x2Jpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtMz7x2Jpk)
Quote from: Cory on July 05, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
Loved the Raptors bringing in the signing to get them over the hump.
It's never going to happen. Toronto needs someone to already be there to understand the city. Think of it in terms of market size - the entire market of Canada ("We The North" branding here ...) is less than New York and LA. so you'll never get that and the team has bottomed out once in probably the worst draft in history in 2006.
Toronto's only hope is that Minnesota sucks for a number of years and Wiggins wants to return home ... until then it's draft and develop.
Poeltl isn't bad but he's a high floor/low ceiling type. He'll help that team win games now but won't help them win a title ever. Sabonis should've been the pick ...
Tim Duncan has announced his retirement.
One of the very best, if not, the best in the post-Jordan generation.
An amazing career, an amazing human being - one of the most humble NBA superstars of all time, and a great role model and champion.
Gonna miss seeing the big man on the floor in the silver and black.
Top 10 player all-time in my book.
Quote from: Jon on July 11, 2016, 11:57:09 AM
Tim Duncan has announced his retirement.
One of the very best, if not, the best in the post-Jordan generation.
An amazing career, an amazing human being - one of the most humble NBA superstars of all time, and a great role model and champion.
Gonna miss seeing the big man on the floor in the silver and black.
Top 10 player all-time in my book.
Couldn't have said it any better. I enjoyed watching him play.
So...typically as I'm not in FBL anymore I've now got massively into basketball haha. Following the 76ers as I feel a bit of a connection with the way they're building compared to my soccer team.
I actually understand basketball now!