Almost draft time, who do you guys want your team to draft and why?
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We need 55 players.
wow those WR's were slow
Agree with the moves today, but really wish we could have a normal offseason for once
Quote from: Cory on March 07, 2016, 08:54:24 PM
Agree with the moves today, but really wish we could have a normal offseason for once
But in the end you traded McCoy for .... Less than nothing. A 6th round pick maybe?
Quote from: Cory on March 07, 2016, 08:54:24 PM
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I don't see the sense in trading Kiko already. Should be stronger this year farther away from surgery...
I love everything we've (Eagles) have done so far during tampering period.
We offloaded bad contracts in Murray, Maxwell, and Alonso.
Liked the additions of McKelvin, McLeod, and Chase. Especially McLeod, as I think he's a pretty underrated safety.
We move up to the #8 overall pick. Which I'm guessing we're either selecting Stanley, Hargreaves, or Elliott in that spot.
Overall, I really like the moves we've made to counteract the shit Chip put us in. Moving in the right direction and that's all that matters.
The Browns are like parents who can't wait for their 18 year old kids to leave the house and they don't bother fighting to ask them to stay.
Why are you Eagles guys glad to see Alonzo go? He was coming off an injury this year. He'll be healthier this season, and check out what he did for Buffalo when healthy....
Quote from: Gravedigger on March 09, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
Why are you Eagles guys glad to see Alonzo go? He was coming off an injury this year. He'll be healthier this season, and check out what he did for Buffalo when healthy....
I didn't really care whether we kept him or not. I wanted Maxwell gone and it took packaging him along with Maxwell to the Fins. I like that we were able to jump to #8 in the draft while clearing the big contracts both those guys had. There is a reason media is grading the Dolphins very low for that trade and us very high.
We don't need Alonso though. I like Barwin, Kendricks, and Hicks as our 3 guys. And we have some depth behind them as well.
Yeah, if it's in the context of moving up in the draft and dumping Maxwell I get moving Kiko, but the kid can play. Can't believe they got someone to take Maxwell...
Quote from: Gravedigger on March 10, 2016, 10:36:47 AM
Yeah, if it's in the context of moving up in the draft and dumping Maxwell I get moving Kiko, but the kid can play. Can't believe they got someone to take Maxwell...
He can play when he's healthy.
But it's been 2 years since he was. There is no guarantee he doesn't get hurt again.
The Champs are hemorrhaging all their players.
I have breathed a sigh of relief that Schaub signed with the Falcons.
Quote from: Jon on March 10, 2016, 10:48:30 AM
He can play when he's healthy.
But it's been 2 years since he was. There is no guarantee he doesn't get hurt again.
It was one season..... Kid's only been in the league two years and you'll give up on him? I get it in terms of dumping Maxwell, but he also played all/most of the season when he got hurt so his injury was late.
And by your guarantee theory there's no saying that anyone will ever play again because they can all get hurt at any time so it's kind of a weak way of looking at it...
He was mostly dealt because of Maxwell's awful contract. Not sure what Miami is thinking there....
And I'm not blasting Eagles fans here. I've read comments in various places where it seems like fans are happy Kiko is gone, but it could be tied into the elation of dumping Maxwell.
Quote from: Gravedigger on March 10, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
It was one season..... Kid's only been in the league two years and you'll give up on him? I get it in terms of dumping Maxwell, but he also played all/most of the season when he got hurt so his injury was late.
And by your guarantee theory there's no saying that anyone will ever play again because they can all get hurt at any time so it's kind of a weak way of looking at it...
He was out all of 2014 and played only 11 games for us this past season because he was hurt in Week 1 against the Falcons. When he returned from that injury, he was largely ineffective. I'm really not going to miss him as I think we have better LB's who are also on better contracts. I'm sure he'll do alright for the Fins.
Kiko Alonso had to go because he's what tipped the Dolphins to eat Byron Maxwell's contract, and I firmly believe that. But his contract was under $1m.....our punter had a bigger salary.
My thoughts:
- I hate the amount of turnover we've had these past few seasons, as football is a big team chemistry game and the turnover we've had in second to none. Not saying the guys we got rid of had much developed chemistry but when you see perennial winners do nothing on opening day and if they do its extending their own players (See Green Bay, New England) I'd be nice to have that for once.
- Moving on from DeMarco was solid overall. We moved up to 2nd in the 4th round from 13th and dumped all of his guaranteed money. I'm surprised anyone wanted an aging running back on the down for THAT much money, considering running backs outside of the AP, Gurley and Bell's are a dime a dozen. Look at KC, lose their superstar in Charles yet again, still churn out a top rushing attack with Charchandrick West. I thought we'd gain a 4th or add a pick from this move, but I can't complain getting something in what was a cap dump on a player who didn't want to be here. I love his quote of "I feel like I had a year off last year"....well you played like you did as well dickhead. A B+ Move.
- As far as swapping #13, Maxwell and Kiko for #8 that's one hell of a move overall. Maxwell got exposed last season to being an average starter in the NFL. I doubt he'll be able to develop much more and for a corner to have hit his developmental ceiling and still get paid top 10 corner money, I think Gace is nuts for wanting him....he's more expensive and not an upgrade over Brent Grimes who they let walk. I think Kiko on the other hand, still on his rookie deal I'd rather him in Philly. I think he came back too quickly from injury and Philly's DC last season was the worst in the league and it was criminal to think he was employed for as long as he was. I think Kiko's upside is what made this deal go through, and good risk for the Phins to take on. Swapping from #13 to #8 is massive for the Eagles. We've gone from looking at second teir prospects like Jack Conklin (OT) and Mackenzie Alexander (CB) to staring top prospects like Vernon Hargreaves (CB) and Ronnie Stanley (OT). An A grade move.
My question to Jon and I've had discussions on my YouTube videos all week, those that want Ezekiel Elliot over guys like Hargreaves and Stanley, why do you want this move? I'm generally interested in the logic.
Compare him to the last legit top 10 RB, Todd Gurley. Gurley was the better prospect coming out of college and I dont see a single area that Elliot is stronger than Gurley, and he looks and plays like Carlos Hyde who isn't a top 10 talent....Elliot also had that well documented outburst when he didn't get enough carries last season. He's not as fast no explosive for being the similar size. We have Mathews and Sproles as our tandem which isn't elite, but it isn't a top priority. You'd rather having a day 1 backfield of Elliot/Mathews/Sproles and either having no one developing (Stanley) behind Jason Peters who has one year left at best? Or having our corner-back situation look like Rowe/McKelvin/Shepard oppose Rowe/Hargreaves/Nickel? For the record I'm all in on addressing corner with #8 as we still need a starter outside.
- Taking the Fletcher Cox extension out of everything, Howie killed free agency. Brandon Brooks was my 2nd ranked guard behind Keleche Osemele and an immediate need. Rodney McLeod was my 2nd ranked safety behind George Iloka, and Nigel Bradham was who I wanted to replace Kiko's LB spot (alt. Tahir Whitehead). I'd like to have seen them try and resign Nolan Carroll who looked better than Maxwell last season, but I trust whatever Jim Schwartz wants done on D and that he's getting solid guys from Buffalo. I'm not a fan of the Chase Daniel deal, but I'd rather him than Sanchez as the backup, and Daniel was the most coveted backup in FA. An excerpt from reddit:
QuoteOkay first, 2016 cap hits:
Ron Brooks - $1,050,000
Brandon Brooks = $3.2M
Rodney McLeod - $2.6M
Chase Daniel - $5M
So that's a total cap hit of $10,850,000.
We had about $17.5M in space before the trades, which got us $9.8M back, for a total of $27.3M. Subtract the FA deal, and we're left with close to our original starting point before the trades of about $16.5M.
Again, this excludes the $3.5M we gain by cutting Sanchez, which we will unless we can trade him which still saves $3.5M, and this also excludes Bradham and McKelvin's 2016 cap hits because I don't know them yet.And don't bust my balls about the exact numbers, lots of these are rounded. It's just meant to give an idea of our cap space.
edit: Spotrac has everything factored that I have except McCleod($2.6M) and it has us $17.1M, which would mean after him we have $14.5M
I'd like to seem them add a WR or another Guard, but so far this (minus how much we paid Daniel) has been a flawless Free Agency for Howie.....now the tough part of not shitting the bed in the draft, which is my biggest worry, is next.....
Corey's fandom for his Eagles moves are as outdated as his profile pic.
At least when my Chargers let go of a former Pro Bowler in Weddle I don't try to cover it up. That sucks and it's going to hurt us whether he is up in age or not. DeMarcus off year had NOTHING to do with the system he was in and the coach he was with right?
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on March 10, 2016, 05:15:08 PM
Corey's fandom for his Eagles moves are as outdated as his profile pic.
At least when my Chargers let go of a former Pro Bowler in Weddle I don't try to cover it up. That sucks and it's going to hurt us whether he is up in age or not. DeMarcus off year had NOTHING to do with the system he was in and the coach he was with right?
It did, but great players still make plays and give 100% effort. Murray often would trip over his own feet, and well...
(I was at this game...a must win against a beatable Dolphins squad. That's a 180lb corner going to make the tackle)
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Temper your expectations, because every off-season is 'almost flawless' by your estimation, and then to the rest of us you look foolish when the games begin....
Quote from: Jon on March 10, 2016, 03:31:42 PM
He was out all of 2014 and played only 11 games for us this past season because he was hurt in Week 1 against the Falcons. When he returned from that injury, he was largely ineffective. I'm really not going to miss him as I think we have better LB's who are also on better contracts. I'm sure he'll do alright for the Fins.
Ok, my bad... I didn't realize he sat out 2014. I thought that was his rookie year. Makes more sense to me now...
I hate that we lost Sean Smith, and I doubly hate it that it was to the Raiders.
I think Miami wanted to move on from Grimes/Grimes' wife, and figured replacing him with Maxwell was decent enough. At least, I assume as much if what I've read is true (that Grimes' wife is what holding teams from jumping at him currently).
I also read that DeMarco restructured his deal with the Titans. That I'm not 100% on I just read that he reworked his numbers so that could just means figures were moved around or something.
All in all, the Eagles need to find some stability. Yeah, the moves were good but it's like Cory said, all the turnover isn't necessarily a good thing all the time. Hopefully they find something and stick with it.
Quote from: Mike Powers on March 10, 2016, 07:09:45 PM
I hate that we lost Sean Smith, and I doubly hate it that it was to the Raiders.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
The Silver and Black is back, baby!!!!!!!!
I don't know how anyone can say their team won the off-season when New England cut JoJo Lefell ...
Why? Just because LaFell is a terrible route runner with bad hands?
So...the Jets are picking him up yes? No wait....the Browns are interested!
Really surprised Colin Sack or Pick is getting all the teams in QB needs attention.....Fitzpatrick had 33 Touchdowns last season. Denver would be smart to go after him short term and draft Paxton Lynch at 31.
Jon Football is officially cut.... What took so long?
The Broncos just traded for Sanchez.....
Is RG3 really that bad now that they wouldn't sign him instead of trading for buttfumble?
Sanchez has only been on bad teams...maybe he'll be manageable on a good team. He has shown flashes of being a capable starter.
Quote from: T-Long on March 12, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
Sanchez has only been on bad teams...maybe he'll be manageable on a good team. He has shown flashes of being a capable starter.
LOL
No.
Quote from: Jon on March 12, 2016, 01:49:07 PM
LOL
No.
That Jets team that made deep playoff runs were better than the semi-dumpster fire that is the Broncos roster after this free agency period.
Well Elway doesn't want to open the checkbook and Peyton is gone, so all ye abandon the Bronco's ship!
I think Sanchez can manage a game in Denver, but that's about it.
Touchbacks being moved to the 25 yard line? Fucking laaaaaame. If they wanna kill off special teams, then just start every possession at the 20 without a kick, and be done with it.
I think it's to encourage kickers to kick field-able balls, because most place kickers can kick it out of the endzone.
Though I haven't read anything about the rule change yet. If it's for 'more competition' or 'player safety' fuck that shit.
Welcome to LA for the Rams.
Now we'll send you all over the world for the next 3 years including China if it actually works this time.
Oh and you can be on Hard Knocks too.
Because money.
At least the Rams aren't the Browns??
Quote from: T-Long on March 23, 2016, 02:39:30 PM
I think it's to encourage kickers to kick field-able balls, because most place kickers can kick it out of the endzone.
Though I haven't read anything about the rule change yet. If it's for 'more competition' or 'player safety' fuck that shit.
It's for player safety. Because, even though though there were more touchbacks last season, there was an increase in player injuries on kickoffs.
I think the new Horse collar rule is stupid and going to lead to some awful calls....
...but I like the chop block penalty....easily my least favourite part of playing football, such a dirty play with the recipient having no real way to protect their knees. Hopefully there is a trickle down effect here and it gets enforced across all levels.
Quote from: T-Long on March 23, 2016, 02:53:01 PM
At least the Rams aren't the Browns??
Always remember when you're down...it could be worse. You could be a Browns fan.
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on March 23, 2016, 06:43:51 PM
Always remember when you're down...it could be worse. You could be a Browns fan.
Love them cutting Dansby.....they need all that cap and no good middle linebacker.
Doug.....I'm so sorry.
Griffin could work.... Install a spread style offense and he can succeed. Maybe not Brady/Peyton/Rodgers type numbers, but he can be effective, plus Hue Jackson is a good coach with quarterbacks.
He's just on a trail. Browns are going to draft either Wentz or Goff....so they're hoping either McCown/RG3 can do until either of those guys are ready.
With Goff being the only legit day 1 starter in the draft (not saying he is the best QB, but hes the most pro ready) I think the signing of RG3 means they're going Carson Wentz and will take a Jags/Blake Bortles approach....which worked out phenominally.
Dansby didn't want to be a part of a rebuild, and rightfully so...he was when we signed him. Not again.
As for RG3, we can say goodbye McCown and he probably hopes he can play amazingly under Hue and make more money on another contract with another team.
I just hope he plays good enough that we can sit a rookie for a year the right way.
Man... what a crazy trade for LA to make.
I think they are giving up far too much to take what is IMO, a weak QB class.
I understand Wentz has all the tools you look for in a QB... but I don't like giving up everything they did to select him.
Jaime Ortega didn't cost that much....
Holy shit!
Big City Rams doing big city business.
I get it, but this is a weak QB class. If these guys we in last years draft maybe Goff would had a chance in the first but Wentz and Lynch would have been day 2 QBs.
Jack I agree... and if Wentz or Goff end up being great then this becomes null and void...
But IMO...
They should have waited until next season to do it as I think Deshaun Watson is going to be someone special at the next level.
Quote from: Jon on April 14, 2016, 12:45:40 PM
Jack I agree... and if Wentz or Goff end up being great then this becomes null and void...
But IMO...
They should have waited until next season to do it as I think Deshaun Watson is going to be someone special at the next level.
THIS. The only thing that worries me about Watson is his frame. Running QB's have kinda phased out unless your a 6'6 260lbs freak like Cam. I absolutely love what Watson will bring to the table but he's smaller than RG3...I don't know how durable he'll be. Brad Kayaa is another guy with a lot of potential.
I get the Rams needing a QB and needing to bring as much excitement to the board as they possibly can being back in LA, but that's a lot to give up if they go after a project like Wentz specifically. No QB in this years class ideally should start week 1 but giving up THAT much wouldn't make sense if they're getting a QB to redshirt in 2016.
The great teams in this league always use long term value over reaching for needs. People keep saying Philly will go after Ezekiel Elliot and its madness. Putting aside the fact that's it's incredibly difficult to justify using a top 10 pick on a running back but 2017 Draft has a significantly better running back class. Darren Sproles is another year older now and Ryan Mathews will be judged by his season as the starter. NOW, you'll potentially get multiple backs that are in the same category as an Ezekiel Elliot (maybe better) in Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb and guys that are close like Wayne Gallman, Semaje Perine and Royce Freeman. The sheer number of backs alone also tells you that a comparable player to Elliot will be available in the back half of the 1st round all the way to the 3rd....not top 10.
My point is the Rams haven't been good in a very long time, and deals like this though understandable is why.
Doesn't make sense to say the management team had to pull the trigger to keep their jobs when a rookie qb doesn't succeed immediately more often than not and is just another project.
Quote from: Cory on April 14, 2016, 01:58:41 PM
THIS. The only thing that worries me about Watson is his frame. Running QB's have kinda phased out unless your a 6'6 260lbs freak like Cam. I absolutely love what Watson will bring to the table but he's smaller than RG3...I don't know how durable he'll be. Brad Kayaa is another guy with a lot of potential.
I get the Rams needing a QB and needing to bring as much excitement to the board as they possibly can being back in LA, but that's a lot to give up if they go after a project like Wentz specifically. No QB in this years class ideally should start week 1 but giving up THAT much wouldn't make sense if they're getting a QB to redshirt in 2016.
The great teams in this league always use long term value over reaching for needs. People keep saying Philly will go after Ezekiel Elliot and its madness. Putting aside the fact that's it's incredibly difficult to justify using a top 10 pick on a running back but 2017 Draft has a significantly better running back class. Darren Sproles is another year older now and Ryan Mathews will be judged by his season as the starter. NOW, you'll potentially get multiple backs that are in the same category as an Ezekiel Elliot (maybe better) in Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb and guys that are close like Wayne Gallman, Semaje Perine and Royce Freeman. The sheer number of backs alone also tells you that a comparable player to Elliot will be available in the back half of the 1st round all the way to the 3rd....not top 10.
My point is the Rams haven't been good in a very long time, and deals like this though understandable is why.
Elliot is considered one of the top RB prospects, along with Gurley, since Peterson...
Fournette will be a better thought of prospect, but none of those others unless Cook jumps up. McCaffrey is looked at as a 3-4 round guy. Not saying Eagles should draft EZ, but he's considered better than most of those guys you mentioned.
Eagles just moved to 2 in the draft...
Quote from: Ben on April 20, 2016, 01:54:52 PM
Eagles just moved to 2 in the draft...
Fucking hell...
I hate this team sometimes.
Go Browns!!
So you Philly boys happy to add another QB to the fold?
With the second pick in the NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select:
K Roberto Aguayo, Florida State
Oh man that sucks for the Eagles.
Also it sucks for the Browns because they are TERRIBLE at drafting. More picks to mess up!
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on April 20, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
Go Browns!!
So you Philly boys happy to add another QB to the fold?
Wentz is two years away at best. Yikes.
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I'll be honest, when I heard this on the radio my immediate thought was "oh man Cory is going to be praising the shit out of this move."
I am pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: T-Long on April 20, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
I'll be honest, when I heard this on the radio my immediate thought was "oh man Cory is going to be praising the shit out of this move."
I am pleasantly surprised.
I've said all along Wentz/Goff would have been day 2 QB's last year, and their value is vastly overrated due to the very weak class this year. Giving up so much and still the Rams might draft the QB we wanted is crazy. We also have a lot of holes that need filling and we traded away our prime value picks the next two seasons. Still need a starting corner, guard, and tackle to groom at least.
I think with Bradford being the QB in 2016, Wentz is who I want, but still giving up so much assets for a player who will sit his rookie year is crazy. Similar QB's teams did not reach. Bortles was there for Jax, Aaron Rodgers fell to the Packers. I don't remember a team moving up to draft a QB to groom, especially to this magnitude.
EDIT: ONLY way this deal makes sense is all the QB minds Philly has on the coaching staff is solid on Wentz and they feel with the QB market being weak they can flip Bradford next season for substantial picks to one of the few projected QB hungry teams that will miss out on Watson/Kayaa....of if they're lying to our face and are going to flip Bradford to Denver before the draft. I mean you have to feel very confident that teams will overlook Bradfords injury history and a dude with 0 playoff wins but then again who saw Brock Osweiler getting $80 million whens hes had 1 game over 300 yards and got benched for a 40 year old with a noodle arm?
Eagles need to sign Fletcher Cox next year and he's going to get Ndamukong Suh money. Wentz (ugh, or Goff) sits, maybe plays at the end of the season in meaningless games but will be the 2017 starter. Eagles trade Bradford to Broncos/Jets/49ers/Bills for something modest and now have that $22 million cap hit Bradford has next year to resign Fletcher and Bennie Logan long term.
Quote from: Jack on April 20, 2016, 04:50:04 PM
IF (and it's a big if) their QB pick works out, it's worth it.
No price to high for a great QB.
And it's worked so many times....
I see Goff as a less athletic Alex Smith and Wentz as a poor mans Ben Roethlisberger....so kinda agree with Jack's prediction.
Quote from: T-Long on April 20, 2016, 03:09:19 PM
Oh man that sucks for the Eagles.
Also it sucks for the Browns because they are TERRIBLE at drafting. More picks to mess up!
Hey! More picks to mess up but MAYBE we'll get a couple right lol
in other news Josh Norman is a free agent
Quote from: Jack on April 20, 2016, 07:41:33 PM
Thinking Norman either stays with Carolina or goes to a team that is weak with a big salary cap and disappears from relevance for a year or two.
Or the Patriots get him. Because that's just how football works.
He seems like the type of player Bellichick would avoid....I could see him going to the Jags or 49ers, both have needs at corner and the top 2 cap spaces remaining. Would like to see the Jags do well next season, he'd be a big part of that.
Not a great day for myself...
Sam Bradford reportedly demands a trade and wont be showing up to off-season training, thus greatly impacting his value on the trade market..
...and on a Fantasy Football note my keeper in my keeper league Mr. Tom Brady got his 4 game suspension back. I wonder if it'll hold up this time?
Fuck.
All I say is HaHa
When we made the trade up to #2...
I knew that meant Bradford was going to be traded. I don't care really, he wasn't going to lead us to the playoffs this season. So no big deal to me. Makes too much money for what he produces on the field.
Quote from: Jon on April 25, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
When we made the trade up to #2...
I knew that meant Bradford was going to be traded. I don't care really, he wasn't going to lead us to the playoffs this season. So no big deal to me. Makes too much money for what he produces on the field.
The cap hit is going to brutal if they trade him now.
Quote from: J-Reb on April 25, 2016, 02:57:02 PM
The cap hit is going to brutal if they trade him now.
I'm sure that will be talked about in the trade... or so I'd hope.
Quote from: J-Reb on April 25, 2016, 02:57:02 PM
The cap hit is going to brutal if they trade him now.
Well of the $11m signing bonus we've paid $5 of that so I assume in a trade the receiving team would pick up the rest....and seeing how he wants the trade I'd assume him/his agent would work on the cap hit.
Honestly feel bad for Laremy Tunsil
Quote from: Cory on April 29, 2016, 12:18:17 PM
Honestly feel bad for Laremy Tunsil
Why? I sure as hell don't.
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2016, 12:53:00 PM
Why? I sure as hell don't.
Now this might not be exactly what happened but its what I've heard and put together myself.
Sounds like everything is getting leaked out from his step dad, stemming from an incident last year where he caught his step dad kicking the shit out of his mom and stepped in and whoped his ass. Step Dad has had an vendetta against him ever since...with that incident already costing him much of his final year at Ole Miss. Step Dad rumored to leak the video and the PM's about him taking money at Ole Miss.
Shit like that can drive you to want to go out and forget about, so I see where smoking pot would relax him....hell it's getting legalized here in Canada next year and already in a few states, and as someone who has a pretty neutral-positive view on weed and has played football...after a month in you're beat up to fuck, pot certainly helps.
He was doing it in the least flattering way and regardless of the public's view, its against the rules within the confines of the NFL/CFB so she should face punishment...but the timing is dirty, especially if it was his step dad....just cost him $10 million easy.
I'm sure he has a million excuses as to why.
But he can only control himself and he did the things that have been leaked, regardless of who leaked them. He didn't make very smart decisions.
What cracks me up, is he said it happened 5 years ago. I think Bomani Jones pointed out in the video of an Ole Miss flag in the background.
The dude has serious character flaws and will say just about anything now to rid himself of the bad PR.
I think pot should be legal, but the profession he has decided to pursue has a zero tolerance on marijuana. Just like mine does as well. I would love to toke up every once in awhile, but I know it's my career on the line... yet these football players seem to think they can get away with anything. So nope... do not feel bad that he lost $10 million for mistakes HE KNOWINGLY made.
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
I'm sure he has a million excuses as to why.
But he can only control himself and he did the things that have been leaked, regardless of who leaked them. He didn't make very smart decisions.
What cracks me up, is he said it happened 5 years ago. I think Bomani Jones pointed out in the video of an Ole Miss flag in the background.
The dude has serious character flaws and will say just about anything now to rid himself of the bad PR.
I think pot should be legal, but the profession he has decided to pursue has a zero tolerance on marijuana. Just like mine does as well. I would love to toke up every once in awhile, but I know it's my career on the line... yet these football players seem to think they can get away with anything. So nope... do not feel bad that he lost $10 million for mistakes HE KNOWINGLY made.
..and now he moves to Miami where temptations are all over the place.
Not to mention his instagram hack-posts are going to ruin Ole Miss for a little while too.
Quote from: Jack on April 29, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
I've said this about other people but I think it's crazy to harshly judge someone for smoking pot in college. I don't think anyone is acting like a career person at 18.
According to him, he was 16 and in high school.
Quote from: Jack on April 29, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
Then I would hold him less accountable. Even if it was a month ago...he's smoking pot. It's not like he's attacking someone. Was it the best choice? No, but I wouldn't say a kid smoking pot means he has big character issues.
It wasn't really 5 years ago... he was lying... aka character issues.
Quote from: Jack on April 29, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
Plus, he's not a QB, so it doesn't really matter as much.
What does that mean?
Quote from: Jon on April 29, 2016, 01:36:02 PM
According to him, he was 16 and in high school.
I think he wasn't able to comprehend what was happening so he tried to do whatever it took to save face and save his stock. This video and all this stuff leaked like what, 5-10 mins before the Rams picked? His agent was probably too busy calling teams to properly assist his client and dude was trying to do whatever it took to save face. I'm not saying he doesn't have character flaws at all, but still.
I completely agree about him falling for doing something that the NFL has zero tolerance for, but the fact that there's rumors it's his step dad sabotaging him and releasing the video before he had a chance to defend himself (and he's never failed a drug test at Ole Miss) is dirty as fuck.
Quote from: Cory on April 29, 2016, 02:03:35 PM
I think he wasn't able to comprehend what was happening so he tried to do whatever it took to save face and save his stock. This video and all this stuff leaked like what, 5-10 mins before the Rams picked? His agent was probably too busy calling teams to properly assist his client and dude was trying to do whatever it took to save face. I'm not saying he doesn't have character flaws at all, but still.
I completely agree about him falling for doing something that the NFL has zero tolerance for, but the fact that there's rumors it's his step dad sabotaging him and releasing the video before he had a chance to defend himself (and he's never failed a drug test at Ole Miss) is dirty as fuck.
I just go by what I see.
He was asked a question... lied about it.
That shows a lack of integrity to me.
He isn't anyone I would want on my football team.
Quote from: Jack on April 29, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
??? I don't know who would qualify for your football team. I would doubt that anyone in the NFL has never told a lie.
I think lying is just a part of this kids problem. He has some issues, obviously. But instead of owning up to those mistakes and handling it like an adult. It's not "who he is" or "it was a long time ago". If I'm a NFL GM, I want him to take accountability, but instead he seems to be trying to use the "victim" card and the whoa is me. \
No integrity.
Don't want him on my football team. Glad he is going to Miami where I'm sure he'll have a problem-free career.
Quote from: Jack on April 29, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
I mean in general, you need your QB to be the responsible, level headed, and mature one.
Other positions it's not as important.
Lots of other positions have character issues but are great (Dez Bryant) but when it's a QB (Like Manziel) it derails.
That said, I don't think smoking pot is something I would get that stressed out about.
I just don't see where not being a head case isn't important at any position.
Manziel also doesn't have Bryant's talent. That's what's not getting him a job.
I think me and Jon are on the same page. Our thoughts about weed are separate from the actions of the cover up or excuses. Just be upfront about it. Always comes out easier in the end. It's just like lying to your parents. Now if the Dolphins are telling him to deny till he lies that's another sitch
How do you guys feel about your drafts?
I think the Eagles drafted the right positions but not the best prospects. I'm a fan of two of our late rounds picks in Jalen Mills and Alex McAllister (go gators) but pretty disappointed with our 3rd round pick and the running back we picked up.
Most experts are giving us a C grade and I tend to agree.
pretty happy , they address there needs and might have pick up a RB that going to sustain them for years to come ... but it a wait and see thing with that.
Quote from: Black Death on May 01, 2016, 11:03:28 PM
pretty happy , they address there needs and might have pick up a RB that going to sustain them for years to come ... but it a wait and see thing with that.
I liked the Jaylon Smith pick, was a great moment and you can easily justify the pick...using a 2nd round pick in 2016 on a guy who would be a top 10 pick in 2017.
I'm thrilled with the Redskins picks. DL should have been a priority, and by all accounts, was. But the right player wasn't available when they picked.
They were apparently earmarking Ryan Kelly for the 21st pick but when the Colts swooped in... it was going to be tough. I was hoping for Jarren Reed (he's going to be an absolute monster with Seattle) but Josh Doctson was rated by many as the best receiver in the draft and will be an ideal replacement for Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson next season.
Su'a Cravens is a stud and fits the Redskins system perfectly. He'll play both S/LB in the 'Skins dime packages. Truthfully, I'd expect him to start at SS next to DeAngelo Hall and be a difference maker. He's above average in run coverage and has excelled at covering TE's, which is something the Redskins haven't been able to do since Sean Taylor was manning the FS spot.
Fuller was a bit of a luxury pick in the third round after signing Josh Norman but he'll do well in zone coverage this season and allow them to cut Culliver and recoup $8m in cap. Norman, Breeland and Fuller is the best CB trio they've had in many, many years.
Overall, they may not have drafted any starters but they've had 4-5 guys that are going to provide depth in areas they haven't had any.
I hate it but the Cowboys hit a homerun with Ezekiel (although, it's hard to argue that Ramsey/Derrick Henry would have been just as good a duo). Dak Prescott is going to be a disaster and I can't wait to watch that implode.
Mostly pleased with KC's draft. Wish they would've done more for the OL, and I'm not sold on Kevin Hogan as a viable QB in the future, but I overall give it a solid "B". They got the most value for their picks of any team in the draft.
It was Bill Belichick/10 ... see you in the AFC Championship Game.
Quote from: J-Reb on May 02, 2016, 01:43:26 PM
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I hate it but the Cowboys hit a homerun with Ezekiel (although, it's hard to argue that Ramsey/Derrick Henry would have been just as good a duo). Dak Prescott is going to be a disaster and I can't wait to watch that implode.
I disargee , yeah would like to have Lynch , he would have fit better , but Prescott has no pressure and can sit back learn the postion for a few years before he has to start. Dallas is in a win win , he either get better and will be ready in few years , or he does not improve they go to another person, it not like he was a first round big money pick , that got to start right away to justify the money. 4th round qb price , long term investment , safe bet
Quote from: J-Reb on May 02, 2016, 01:43:26 PM
I'm thrilled with the Redskins picks. DL should have been a priority, and by all accounts, was. But the right player wasn't available when they picked.
They were apparently earmarking Ryan Kelly for the 21st pick but when the Colts swooped in... it was going to be tough. I was hoping for Jarren Reed (he's going to be an absolute monster with Seattle) but Josh Doctson was rated by many as the best receiver in the draft and will be an ideal replacement for Pierre Garcon or DeSean Jackson next season.
Su'a Cravens is a stud and fits the Redskins system perfectly. He'll play both S/LB in the 'Skins dime packages. Truthfully, I'd expect him to start at SS next to DeAngelo Hall and be a difference maker. He's above average in run coverage and has excelled at covering TE's, which is something the Redskins haven't been able to do since Sean Taylor was manning the FS spot.
Fuller was a bit of a luxury pick in the third round after signing Josh Norman but he'll do well in zone coverage this season and allow them to cut Culliver and recoup $8m in cap. Norman, Breeland and Fuller is the best CB trio they've had in many, many years.
Overall, they may not have drafted any starters but they've had 4-5 guys that are going to provide depth in areas they haven't had any.
I hate it but the Cowboys hit a homerun with Ezekiel (although, it's hard to argue that Ramsey/Derrick Henry would have been just as good a duo). Dak Prescott is going to be a disaster and I can't wait to watch that implode.
Fuller was a steal, really disappointed Philly passed over him.
Joey fucking Bosa :'(
Feeling pretty good about the Raider draft. Karl Joseph is a big hitter, and should pair well with Reggie Nelson at safety. Jihad Ward and Shilique Calhoun add pass rushing depth with Mack, Irvin, Edwards (assuming he's healthy) and Aldon Smith (post suspension). Cook was a surprise, but having a good backup is key (ask the Cowboys...). Depth from the last few rounds, hopefully one or two of them can stick and contribute.
Quote from: ¿PapaPancho? on May 02, 2016, 11:45:25 PM
Joey fucking Bosa :'(
Seems like a plan for the next 10 years move, instead of trying to win with Rivers....
Fletcher just got paid, $63 million guaranteed. Worth every penny if he stays healthy.
And the Dak Prescott era begins...
I can't stand the Cowboys, but I feel bad for Romo. Guy plays hard every time he's out there, and has gutted it out through injuries in the past. He deserves better than for his body to fail him every year...
If Dak plays well while he's hurt... I don't think you see him start at QB for Dallas anymore.
Depending on how Dak does and how things go with Simien (not sure on spelling) and Butt Fumble maybe Denver could look to pick up Romo mid season and take a chance on him for the playoffs...
I think Romo has hit the wall physically, he just can't stay healthy anymore.
He needs to Retire.
As this thread comes to a close, Eagles trade Sam Bradford to Vikings for a 1st and 4th round pick in 2017.
:)
not sure as eagles fan , you should be happy.
Quote from: Black Death on September 03, 2016, 05:27:22 PM
not sure as eagles fan , you should be happy.
Im thrilled, Eagles were always facing an uphill battle this season to make the playoffs....and having Bradford as the starting QB didn't make it any easier.
My dream was for Bradford to somehow stay healthy through the entire season so that we could trade him this offseason for maybe a 3rd round pick.
Now we didn't have to gamble on him staying healthy and grabbed a 1st and future 4th round pick AND we get to see Carson Wentz sooner than later. I wouldn't say our chances of winning have improved any, but with Wentz instead of Bradford I'd say our likelihood of losing hasn't changed much either but the level of excitement had grown tenfold.
We flipped an injury prone QB who has never gotten a team to the playoffs who didn't want to be in Philly for a 1st and 4th round pick. Life. is....
GLORIOUS!
hey , if your happy , I got no problem
Yeah.... Eagles weren't doing anything this year, so getting a 1st rounder next year is big for them, considering they traded theirs already.
Except Wentz is nowhere near ready to start and this is most likely going to send him down David Carr avenue.
It's crazy that the Vikings valued Bradford at a 1st round pick...
They're all in now, especially with Peterson not getting any younger...
Are they Super Bowl material? Most likely not, but they're not wasting a chance at the playoffs. Bradford is good enough to be a manager like Teddy. If Peterson gets hurt and they need to throw more... then they're screwed.
Quote from: T-Bonizzle on September 04, 2016, 10:45:47 AM
It's crazy that the Vikings valued Bradford at a 1st round pick...
I think it a good move , in being that the Vikings have the personnel now to make a run at the SB. With Bridgewater going down they need a guy that going to be solid , not great just solid at QB , Bradford is that guy. You got a defence that going to be good and hold teams down , you got AD in the backfield , so don't have to carry the team on your shoulders. Bradford comes out a winner in this, Just need to perform well
first round pick is for rebuilding , so giving up a next year first round , so you can try to win now. nothing wrong with that in my opinion. I think they are SB material , but can they play when it counts