2014 NFL Off-season Thread

[T-Bonizzle]

Jon restores my faith.

[GM Franchise]

I'm guessing you didn't catch Bones sarcasm, lol

That was the truth, there was no sarcasm in there. Dalton is good but he ain't worth that overpaid contract they gave him.

[Jon]

That was the truth, there was no sarcasm in there. Dalton is good but he ain't worth that overpaid contract they gave him.

You think the QB position is deep and any schmuck can play it?

[GM Franchise]

You think the QB position is deep and any schmuck can play it?

Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.

[Jon]

Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.

Tell that to Dan Marino.

[T-Bonizzle]

Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.

Then why can't Dalton?

[Jon]

Dilfer didn't win a Super Bowl... he just didn't lose it. The Alex Smith of todays game.

[GM Franchise]

Then why can't Dalton?

Dalton is 0-3 in the playoffs. He's basically Romo North.

Dilfer didn't win a Super Bowl... he just didn't lose it. The Alex Smith of todays game.

So Dilfer and Alex Smith are Jeff Hostetler?

[Jon]

Dalton is 0-3 in the playoffs. He's basically Romo North.

So Dilfer and Alex Smith are Jeff Hostetler?

Hostetler was a much better postseason QB than both of them. Hostetler wasn't much a game managing QB... he often took risks not needed. But when he was finally given the chance to start at QB, he didn't do that horribly. But his most impressive stat is his postseason numbers.

[Hondo]

I mean, Dalton is no Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees (or even a Russell Wilson for that matter), but he's a decent QB. He puts up good numbers and all that. He just can't win the big games for whatever reason. Whether it's coaching or his own nerves, he just hasn't done it.

Even I think the Bengals overpaid somewhat, but if it's mostly incentive-laced, then it's not that big of a deal.

[Cory]

I mean, Dalton is no Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees (or even a Russell Wilson for that matter), but he's a decent QB. He puts up good numbers and all that. He just can't win the big games for whatever reason. Whether it's coaching or his own nerves, he just hasn't done it.

Even I think the Bengals overpaid somewhat, but if it's mostly incentive-laced, then it's not that big of a deal.

I would like to see the incentives....wonder how much they inflate this deal?

[Hondo]

I don't know this for fact, because I haven't seen it for myself. But there's supposedly a bunch of escalators in the deal, like he gets more money if he wins 11+ games, or wins a playoff game, etc. But again, I say I haven't actually SEEN that, just scuttlebutt from message boards.

[The TeeJ of Philly]

You know the difference between Flacco and Dalton? Dalton is a better QB, he may have not won a title, but he's a better QB. Every year since drafting Dalton, the Bengals have gotten better. Through three years of their carrers, Flacco owns one more victory as a starter than Dalton.

I could go into all the deeper stats that are on pro football reference, but it'll make it longer, Dalton is as good, if not, better than Flacco going into their respective fourth years. The Bengals could have let the season play out and have what happened to the Ravens happen to them. In a contract year, Dalton plays his ass off, leads them to a title and holds them ransom and the organization is put in a hard spot. Pay your Super Bowl winning QB what he wants, or walk away.

Flacco is over paid because he parlayed a good month of football (which you can thank Raheem Moore for a good part of it) into becoming the highest paid player in the NFL. Dalton is not because the price of an incosistent QB who leads your team to the playoffs changed drastically.

You also remember, much of that is probably back pay for playing a cheap contract, remember, Dalton, like Cam and Kaep, lead their teams to the playoffs on the first rookie contracts.

[T-Bonizzle]

I don't understand the hate every time a QB who isn't Brady, Manning, or Brees gets a new contract. Because those guys are available right? When you sign a QB for a long term contract, you are paying for the position, not the player.

[GM Franchise]

I don't understand the hate every time a QB who isn't Brady, Manning, or Brees gets a new contract. Because those guys are available right? When you sign a QB for a long term contract, you are paying for the position, not the player.

Does Mark Sanchez count as part of that?