Combine is coming, PUMPED.
Combine takeways?
Called Dri Archer running the fastest time.....surprised Clowney only put up 21 on the bench.....figured hed get high 20s low 30s....but then again hes all lower body strength which makes him elite....cant wait to see him perform tomorrow.
Quote from: Cory on February 23, 2014, 11:13:04 PM
Combine takeways?
Called Dri Archer running the fastest time.....surprised Clowney only put up 21 on the bench.....figured hed get high 20s low 30s....but then again hes all lower body strength which makes him elite....cant wait to see him perform tomorrow.
Dri was one of my math students.
Just saying. Cause its true. lol
Clowney is a monster. 4.48 in the 40?
Shame his work ethic is shit.
Quote from: Cory on February 24, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Clowney is a monster. 4.48 in the 40?
Shame his work ethic is shit.
He will prove everyone wrong about his work ethic. Just watch.
...and Michael Sam posts two of the worst numbers in the bench and 40.
Clowney NEEDS to go #1.
Whether that means the Texans trade down or give up on drafting a QB, there's NO WAY the dude should go anywhere lower than first overall.
Quote from: JackHondo on February 24, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Clowney NEEDS to go #1.
Whether that means the Texans trade down or give up on drafting a QB, there's NO WAY the dude should go anywhere lower than first overall.
To be honest, anything in the top 5 will only prove his point. If I'm a coach between 6 and 10, I'm hoping he drops so he gets a chip on his shoulder. He's worked hard enough and is talented enough to go #1 and he knows that. You'll get it all at #1, but if he falls to #6, oooooh buddy.
Quote from: JackHondo on February 24, 2014, 04:59:00 PM
Clowney NEEDS to go #1.
Whether that means the Texans trade down or give up on drafting a QB, there's NO WAY the dude should go anywhere lower than first overall.
I think Clowney and Watt isnt fair
Quote from: Cory on February 24, 2014, 10:24:01 PM
I think Clowney and Watt isnt fair
Necessary Roughness Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7v4YGFFx4g0#)
@1:06, the reaction of opposing quarterbacks in the league to a Watt/Clowney pass rush.
Hahaha, but seriously. Watt and Clowney would be like Jerome Brown/Reggie White on the Eagles d-line back in the late 80s-early 90s.
I think Schaub/McCown via FA would do to grab a QB in next yrs equally as stacked class to set your defensive up to be something we havent seen in a long time (they also have fellow pro bowl talent in Brian Cushing, Jonathan Joseph and Whitney Mercilus).
Browns cut D'qwell.
Ya know. Browns stuff.
Yeah, cutting the best player not named Joe Haden is usually a good sign.
Signing Karlos Dansby and possibly Whitner too. Browns making moves. Browns.
....if they lose Mack and Ward their off-season is still a failure.
LaMarr Houston to Chicago for 35 million over 5......overpaid there.
Michael Johnson leaves Cincy to Tampa Bay as well.
Hated to see Johnson go, but they're already paying big bucks to Carlos Dunlap and Geno Atkins. Not to mention they're probably going to use the Johnson savings on extending Dalton and AJ Green.
Eagles Sign Malcolm Jenkins....its not Jairus Byrd (Signed with Saints) or TJ Ward (Broncos....are you kidding me?) but hes a huge upgrade over anyone we had last year.
S Chris Clemons is still out there too, wouldnt mind adding him.
I like the Redskins signing Andre Roberts...he will give Garcon some much needed help.
Love the Jenkins signing, he can move around on the field and fits what Billy Davis is doing.
If Revis gets cut, please Howie, for the love of all things, get him. He's worth it.
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on March 11, 2014, 09:49:58 PM
Love the Jenkins signing, he can move around on the field and fits what Billy Davis is doing.
If Revis gets cut, please Howie, for the love of all things, get him. He's worth it.
with Byrd signing in New Orleans, Rafael Bush too may hit the market, dude is maybe the hardest hitting safety in the league.
I too would welcome Revis....even with the Nnamdi signing still leaving a scar, that was more a severe misjudgment in a player and what system he is comfortable with. Revis would be a perfect fit in Philly....his $14/yr or whatever deal is not.
Jon Martin traded to 49ers
The Cowboys letting go of Demarcus Ware was surprising to me.
With Byrd getting that ridiculous contract, I wonder what happens with Jimmy Graham
Quote from: Cory on March 12, 2014, 11:41:34 AM
With Byrd getting that ridiculous contract, I wonder what happens with Jimmy Graham
Add to that instead of cutting Pierre Thomas the Saints extend him. Perhaps they are quite confident they will win a battle over which franchise tag he gets.
The Broncos signed Aquib Talib.
Quote from: GM Franchise on March 12, 2014, 01:23:33 PM
The Broncos signed Aquib Talib.
Old news. 6 year 57 mil. And they're the favorites to sign ware
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on March 12, 2014, 01:30:24 PM
Old news. 6 year 57 mil. And they're the favorites to sign ware
How is it old news when it just happened today?
I think they agreed in principle last night, if I'm not mistaken.
But with that and them possibly landing Ware, I think the Broncs are definitely going all-in this season. They know that their Manning window is closing a little more every day, and they want a Lombardi trophy before it crashes shut.
....which is going to make it ever so sweet when the epically crash out again.
Fuck Denver, trying to buy a Super Bowl didnt work with Manning and Welker, and it wont work again.
Yep, Denver just added Ware. They're going all in this season.
Browns cut Weeden.
Best offseason ever.
So where is Revis Island going...anyone wanna take a stab?
I feel like the Pats will land him
Quote from: Cory on March 12, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
So where is Revis Island going...anyone wanna take a stab?
I feel like the Pats will land him
I'm thinking the Pats will get him too.
Revis Island will be in New England next season.
Bet Brady is happy the best hands are on the defensive side of the ball [/sarcasm]
Quote from: Cory on March 12, 2014, 08:49:19 PM
Bet Brady is happy the best hands are on the defensive side of the ball [/sarcasm]
Lol I bet he'd lobby to get Revis to try out WR for a bit.
Nice, Darren Sproles.
Sproles is a good fit for the Eagles system.
Meh...
Quote from: Jon on March 13, 2014, 12:32:07 PM
Meh...
Hes good but definitely not a slam dunk like everyone is making it out to be.
The good:
- Sproles is def. a weapon, and Chip will find a way to use it.
- Will get Shady more breaks, less wear and tear, more so on screens, ect.
- Two back sets with Sproles will be very tough for defenses to match up with
- Philly is awful at covering screens, so if we play the Saints again their big screen man is gone
The meh/bad:
- Gave up a 5th rounder, the draft is really deep this year, could have added great value.
- With said pick, could have gotten same type of weapon like DeAnthony Thomas for cheaper.
- Sproles is at the end of his prime....I do like he isnt injury prone, but hes 30-31
- Sproles doesnt add much to the return game, another area where we need improvement.
Overall, I think its a good move. Sproles was a 1000 net yard playmaker last season, and with Phillys already #2 ranked offense last year and the best offensive numbers in Eagle history, adding Maclin and Sproles is kinda insane potentially....considering the Broncos who were number one is losing two playmakers in Decker and Moreno.
Quote from: Cory on March 13, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
- Sproles doesnt add much to the return game, another area where we need improvement.
He's one of the better returners in the league.
Quote from: JustinP on March 13, 2014, 02:03:09 PM
He's one of the better returners in the league.
He hasn't been effective as a PR in 3 years and hasn't been a full time return man in that same span. At 31, he isn't going to magically return to being "one of the best return men." He's of little use outside of a safety valve for Foles out of the backfield.
Quote from: Johnny Rebel on March 13, 2014, 02:33:57 PM
He hasn't been effective as a PR in 3 years and hasn't been a full time return man in that same span. At 31, he isn't going to magically return to being "one of the best return men." He's of little use outside of a safety valve for Foles out of the backfield.
Yeah, pretty much....but the fact that Philly had 6700 yards total last year, and added guys who have produced close to 1000 each (Maclin + Sproles).....it wouldnt be a stretch to think they could top 7500....something that Denver couldnt do last year.
Quote from: Cory on March 13, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
Yeah, pretty much....but the fact that Philly had 6700 yards total last year, and added guys who have produced close to 1000 each (Maclin + Sproles).....it wouldnt be a stretch to think they could top 7500....something that Denver couldnt do last year.
At the bare minimum, he'll force opposing defenses to spread out a little more and pay attention to him in the slot. Teams won't be able to stack 8-9 in the box against the Eagles with McCoy and Sproles out on the field.
I would have loved him on the Redskins but not at the expense of a draft pick.
Smart move for the Eagles.
and Wilfork looks to be gone from the Pats.
Honestly, would rather Wilfork. You can find good corners to compete, Wilfork is a one of a kind Nose Tackle.
Julius Peppers nice to see he moved about 3 blocks over...
Ben Tate to the Browns!
On the Browns he's the best player.
Quote from: Jon on March 15, 2014, 10:14:38 PM
You got a backup RB... Cool.
A legit lol is worth some broccoli I reckon.
Quote from: T-Hawks on March 15, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
On the Browns he's the best player.
Eh... Not really.
He's not the answer for them at RB, that's for sure.
Everyone expected Tate to be so good after Foster went doen and he was everything but good.
Didn't see how much they paid him, but I hope they didn't overpay.
I think the opposite. Tate has all the potential to be a 1000 yard back.
....but if im the Browns and Carlos Hyde is available in the 2nd, I take him.
Seeing how Tate was playing with broken ribs almost as soon as he started to get full time carries and he was facing a loaded box/playing from behind. It's tough to judge him off last season imo
Emmanuel Sanders signs with the Broncos after his agent agreed in principle to sign with the Chiefs. They also annoyed the Niners by blowing them off after having a scheduled meeting.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334409/article/emmanuel-sanders-deal-leaves-executives-crying-foul (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000334409/article/emmanuel-sanders-deal-leaves-executives-crying-foul)
QuoteEmmanuel Sanders has agreed to terms on a three-year deal with the Broncos worth $15 million, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."
Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the wide receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, according to another source involved in the process.
While shopping the Chiefs' offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.
"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."
Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.
The Dallas-based agent recently was reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collected a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.
While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, Weinberg's shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that an agreement had been reached showed another side of the business. A Broncos source said the team had no knowledge of any prior agreements before it agreed to terms with Sanders.
"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... not proper."
Good news Eagles fans...
Eagles likely to sign Mark Sanchez
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10667053/quarterback-mark-sanchez-joining-philadelphia-eagles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10667053/quarterback-mark-sanchez-joining-philadelphia-eagles)
QuoteMark Sanchez, who was released by the New York Jets on Friday, is expected to sign with the Philadelphia Eagles, a source told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.
Sanchez is rehabbing from shoulder surgery, and the Eagles will have him undergo a medical evaluation as a condition of his signing.
He would be the third quarterback on the Eagles' roster, joining starter Nick Foles and backup Matt Barkley.
The Jets on Friday announced the signing of former Eagles starter Michael Vick.
Awesome, Butt Fumble at backup QB.
I think id rather Pryor for our backup, but Sanchez has experience to manage a game and hand the ball off to Shady in case Foles gets hurt....so I guess hes a safer bet at backup.
All Eagles fans should be more happy about
http://instagram.com/p/l9Cs-DuNmJ/# (http://instagram.com/p/l9Cs-DuNmJ/#)
I'd rather DeSean leave.
Jared Allen signs with the Chicago Bears.
Eagles reported have put G Evan Mathis on the trade block....dude has been by far the highest rated guard in PFF over the last 2-3 years.....after shutting the DeSean door, we open another.
FUCK.
Quote from: Cory on March 26, 2014, 10:32:48 AM
Eagles reported have put G Evan Mathis on the trade block....dude has been by far the highest rated guard in PFF over the last 2-3 years.....after shutting the DeSean door, we open another.
FUCK.
Getting rid of Desean... I was more than alright with.
This... not at all.
Hes 32 and gonna make like 5 million. Odds say hes pissed that Kelce and Peters got raises....when he is the best in the league at his position. He asked for a raise im hearing, and Howie Roseman placed him on the trade block.
Id say im slightly into Mathis corner depending on what he wanted extra. If it was 6-7 million a year, Id say hes earned it...if it was 8-9 then sad to say it, but seeya.
Bears are going to have a monster D next season.
Fucking bullshit.
Love DeSean, I get why the Eagles released him. He wants more money + alleged connections to LA gangs = bye bye. DeSean handled this whole saga very, very well. I don't like it, but I get it.
I'm 100% glad he is gone.
So long and thanks for the memories.
Miracle Of The New Meadowlands on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/76097277)
Lest we forget.
I just hope it doesnt drastically change the draft. If Calvin Pryor is there, hes our guy....dude is BDawk 2.0
...we can grab a viable WR like Martavius Bryant (6'4, 4.4 speed) or Donte Moncrief (6'2, 4.4 speed) in the 3rd round....if we end up with Marqise Lee or Odell Beckham with the 1st....not gonna trust Chip anymore.
Quote from: Cory on March 28, 2014, 03:13:22 PM
Miracle Of The New Meadowlands on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/76097277)
Lest we forget.
I just hope it doesnt drastically change the draft. If Calvin Pryor is there, hes our guy....dude is BDawk 2.0
...we can grab a viable WR like Martavius Bryant (6'4, 4.4 speed) or Donte Moncrief (6'2, 4.4 speed) in the 3rd round....if we end up with Marqise Lee or Odell Beckham with the 1st....not gonna trust Chip anymore.
Yes because i will not trust Chip because he took an offensive player either.
You got to at this point believe in what Chip is trying to build team wise, by DeSean not fitting his mold of player and removing him, for HHH terms, was best for business.
Now if Pryor is there at 22, but we go with IMO an overrated Marqise Lee because Chip has a hard on for Pac 12 players, and get a Maclin 2.0 and still have a vacancy at Safety which is still the #1 position of need....was this really whats best for business? Only WRs id take in the 1st round is Watkins and Evans......MAYBE Cooks simply because he's the closest to DeSean.....but Lee/Beckham Jr are overrated IMO, and Benjamin is a project player.
Im about sick of this moral uprightness team....there comes a point when you need to look at the facts and justify winning and talent over mistakes. I assume there is something more to this DeSean thing and when ALL of the facts are out my opinion may change....but if all the gang rumors are true....look at what Baltimore did with Ray Lewis. Surly his murder charges are more serious that whats available right now in regards to DeSean...but they decided that for his talent it was worth it to work through the issues rather than cut the future hall of famer go. DeSean is involved with charities and has never had any big issues with teammates, so its his social media and friends in the off-season that the Eagles were worried about...thats a little weak for me.
Im not saying DeSean is a future hall of famer, Im not saying that he wasn't a little overpaid @ 10 mill a year...but seeing that at 27 he is still in his prime, he hauled in 80+ balls, 1400yrds and 9TDs last year, his presence made Riley Cooper and screen passes to McCoy effective by stretching the field, his punt return game....he's still crucial for the development of Foles. You just took his #1 guy away and expect him to develop with Cooper who may struggle greatly being the #1 and Maclin who has never hit 1000yrds nor may even be the same player after his injury.
There is no one left in FA that we can take some of the 10 mill of space and bring in....Santonio Holes, Miles Austin, Kenny Britt and Sidney Rice are left...pass on everyone one of those guys.
So, this draft will truly decided for me if "In Chip we trust"
QuoteLove DeSean, I get why the Eagles released him. He wants more money + alleged connections to LA gangs = bye bye. DeSean handled this whole saga very, very well. I don't like it, but I get it.
Connections to being in LA Gangs and Affiliating with LA Gangs are different things ... maybe I'm too cynical since I come from that area but it just seems too convenient that suddenly all this information is coming out about DeSean Jackson (at least nationally).
Quote from: PapaPancho on March 29, 2014, 02:36:22 PM
Connections to being in LA Gangs and Affiliating with LA Gangs are different things ... maybe I'm too cynical since I come from that area but it just seems too convenient that suddenly all this information is coming out about DeSean Jackson (at least nationally).
Care to elaborate?
Pancho is a member of Vatos Locos.
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Quote from: Cory on March 29, 2014, 05:00:10 PM
Care to elaborate?
We're all 1 homie from the hood. Doesnt mean i run with them if their childhood friends
Somebody in the Eagles organization leaked that info...had to. Thats thebonly reason that story even got started.
Quote from: JustinP on March 31, 2014, 09:27:06 PM
Somebody in the Eagles organization leaked that info...had to. Thats thebonly reason that story even got started.
Someone would have found out and leaked it anyways. Especially after the Hernadez stuff. Kansas City did their own investigation into Desean and decided to bow out of getting him.
Looks like he'll be going to Washington, enjoy Justin.
Quote from: Cory on April 01, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
Looks like he'll be going to Washington, enjoy Justin.
We'll enjoy beating him twice a year.
Browns are making an offer.
BROWNS
Well with nothing offical who knows....but having DJax go to Washington is the same gut punch as Arsenal selling Van Persie to Manchester United for those that follow the other footy.
Why must my teams do this to me.
Quote from: Cory on April 01, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Well with nothing offical who knows....but having DJax go to Washington is the same gut punch as Arsenal selling Van Persie to Manchester United for those that follow the other footy.
Why must my teams do this to me.
Well for me, not even close.
DJax has always been about himself and never the team. He's a smaller Terrell Owens. While he's a good receiver... I'm not too worried about our offense still. We have plenty of weapons. And with Chip Kelly... yeah, I'm not worried.
Now if it was Lesean McCoy... then I'd be pissed. But with this move, I'm very happy about it.
Quote from: Jon on April 01, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
Well for me, not even close.
DJax has always been about himself and never the team. He's a smaller Terrell Owens. While he's a good receiver... I'm not too worried about our offense still. We have plenty of weapons. And with Chip Kelly... yeah, I'm not worried.
Now if it was Lesean McCoy... then I'd be pissed. But with this move, I'm very happy about it.
I too loved the plays he's made, but never been a DeSean fan per se. For his size he was one big hit from being done, and his contract was pretty bad considering before the season with Chip his numbers were above average, his character too was too diva ish and often times you could only shake your head at the things he said (contract thing at the end of the season last yr)
I do think Chip will find a WR he knows he can use within the first 3 rounds (I hope maybe Jordan Matthews or Donte Moncrief) and essentially replace DJax....however to be happy about this move....I think you can only really make that call in hindsight when the season is over. As it stands, we just lost 80rec 1400yrds 9TD of production + making everything else work by stretching the field, and were expecting Cooper to be our #1 and Maclin who may not be the same player he was post injury...and even then has never been a 1000yrd guy.
Happy no, but truly interested to see if this all does workout, knowing Chip truly knows whats best.
Quote from: Cory on April 01, 2014, 02:43:02 PM
I too loved the plays he's made, but never been a DeSean fan per se. For his size he was one big hit from being done, and his contract was pretty bad considering before the season with Chip his numbers were above average, his character too was too diva ish and often times you could only shake your head at the things he said (contract thing at the end of the season last yr)
I do think Chip will find a WR he knows he can use within the first 3 rounds (I hope maybe Jordan Matthews or Donte Moncrief) and essentially replace DJax....however to be happy about this move....I think you can only really make that call in hindsight when the season is over. As it stands, we just lost 80rec 1400yrds 9TD of production + making everything else work by stretching the field, and were expecting Cooper to be our #1 and Maclin who may not be the same player he was post injury...and even then has never been a 1000yrd guy.
Happy no, but truly interested to see if this all does workout, knowing Chip truly knows whats best.
To be fair... that was BY FAR Jackson's most productive season. He is far from being a consistent producer. Last year he had a great year under an offensive minded coach... before that... he was nothing more than an average receiver with big play potential. He was good a spreading the field, that I'll give him.
But while his loss is a loss... it's not something our team cannot overcome rather easily, IMO.
We now have another threat besides Garcon. Our offense should put some points on the board this season. Just meed a defense that can at least stop an all nursing home team.
Quote from: JustinP on April 02, 2014, 07:13:02 AM
We now have another threat besides Garcon. Our offense should put some points on the board this season. Just meed a defense that can at least stop an all nursing home team.
3 years, $24 million, with $16m of that guaranteed. Considering the deal Eric Decker just signed in New York, that's a pretty good deal.
Garcon, Jackson, Roberts and Jordan Reed is going to be explosive offensively. If only the 'Skins can stop the opposing team once or twice a game.
Have fun with the headache... and don't expect the same numbers he put up last season.
For your consideration...
Scuzz Twittly - F**k the Pittsburgh Steelers! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mMGpKmnsw#ws)
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Aldon Smith arrested at airport
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10777877/aldon-smith-detained-los-angeles-airport (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10777877/aldon-smith-detained-los-angeles-airport)
QuoteLos Angeles police arrested San Francisco 49ers linebacker-defensive end Aldon Smith at Los Angeles International Airport on Sunday afternoon after he indicated he was in possession of a bomb.
Smith was booked Sunday afternoon, according to LAPD Sgt. Michael Fox. Smith was charged with a false bomb report, which is punishable by up to one year in jail. He posted $20,000 bail Sunday night, according to multiple reports.
The San Francisco 49ers cannot be pleased defensive end Aldon Smith has had yet another run-in with the law. The franchise could rethink picking up his option for 2015, writes Bill Williamson. Story
49ers general manager Trent Baalke issued a statement saying: "We are disappointed to learn of the incident today involving Aldon Smith. As this is a pending legal matter and we are still gathering the pertinent facts, we will have no further comment."
According to Los Angeles police public information officer Karla Ortiz, the incident happened as the man later identified as Smith was going through Terminal 1 screening and was randomly selected for secondary screening.
Smith then became belligerent and uncooperative with the process and with the TSA agent, making a comment indicating that he was in possession of a bomb before proceeding toward the gate area, according to Ortiz.
Los Angeles Airport Police made contact with him at the gate and he then became uncooperative again and was detained and taken into custody by Airport Police.
Many people on the scene, including former Marine veteran Clayton Mullaly, captured the incident on video.
This incident is Smith's latest run-in with the law.
In November, Smith pleaded not guilty to three felony counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon, stemming from an incident at a party at his home in 2012.
Smith also missed five games this past season while spending time in an alcohol treatment center. He entered treatment voluntarily three days after he was arrested for drunken driving for the second time since early 2012.
Despite the five-game absence, Smith finished with 12 sacks and 34 tackles over the course of the Niners' season, which ended in a NFC Championship Game loss to division rival Seattle.
Smith, 24, is facing charges for both the arrest for the incident at his home and the September arrest for drunk driving. This latest incident could trigger league discipline. The NFL did not suspend Smith after the September arrest. In October, commissioner Roger Goodell said the fact that Smith voluntarily sought treatment could play a role in him not getting a suspension.
CJ2K to the Jets.
Jeez, Vick and Johnson...trying to relive the 2008 season.
Dougie is a backer?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1254956201/disappointing-moments-in-cleveland-sports-coloring (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1254956201/disappointing-moments-in-cleveland-sports-coloring)
Oh yea I backed this the second day it was on kickstarter
My commiserations to Manziel.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to not taking a WR
Huh? to taking Marcus Smith. if you're going LB at that spot, go Ealy. The only thing i can think of is they liked Smith but wanted ot trade down but no one was offering.
I LITERALLY threw my beer on the ground when we drafted J Football. Fucking hell!
I like this Jason Verrett pick. He led the FBS with 38 passes defended the last 2 seasons. They needed someone like this on their defense and got him. Smart pick by the Chargers.
Few strange picks in this draft. We were ONE away from ha ha.... Fuck you packers!!!
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on May 08, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
I LITERALLY threw my beer on the ground when we drafted J Football. Fucking hell!
What a waste of a beer, he's going to be a difference maker. Hoyer will man the helm this coming year and then the year after, Johnny Football!!!!!
What Jon said too
The Oregon state in me wanted cooks to fall to philly... I would have pre-ordered the jersey! But happy he went to saints, great fit and still gonna order the jersey!
As a fan of the Raiders I'm pretty happy with Mack. Guy is a freak athlete and should be a disruptor on the D. Watkins would have been nice to have an offensive playmaker, but Mack should be legit.
Lord knows they need anything they can get at this time...
Pryor to the Jets fucked everything up....Packers were gonna go safety most likely.....Marcus Smith I figured he'd be a day two player as Chip and Co. interviewed him reportedly more than Pryor at the Louisville pro day....but him over someone like Dennard, Benjamin, even Ealy....not a fan of that pick at all. Philly needs a strong day 2 for me to consider buying tickets/planning a trip to Philly again this year
....they've on paper have done very little to bring enthusiasm to the Eagles hopeful. Losing DJax and gambling that Maclin can return to full form, only bringing in depth and an slightly above average Safety through FA, and a real head scratcher with the 1st round pick....hmmmm
Only thing working is that Chip hasnt done anything draft wise that has been a bust, his first 3 picks last year were excellent (Johnson, Ertz, Logan)....so maybe trust that Smith is the right guy for the team based on this....I just always want need over BPA...your 1st round pick ideally will be a starter...Smith wont start over Cole and Barwin. This "Philly needs more pass rushers" is kinda crap seeing as last year was a transition year....very little sacks until late in the year when everyone got the system and Trent had like 8 sacks in a handful of games...they need to give Curry more reps, Graham too.
Marcus Smith is going to a crowded OLB corps...where if we wanted a pass rusher stayed at 22 and grabbed Dee Ford, or made a better pick @ 26 in Dennard who would start in our secondary, even Buccannon or Ward to grab a safety before the talent pool drops off, or a project player that Chip could mold in Kelvin Benjamin. Smith would have been a great day 2 pick....and until he steps on the field and proves everyone else wrong...he'll stay a shitty 1st round reach.
Josh Gordon...
FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
It was clear what the Eagles wanted at 22. Either Pryor or Clinton-Dix .... Cooks or Beckham Jr.
So we traded down 4 spots and gained an early 3rd round pick which was great.
At 26, I thought for sure we were going Lee or Benjamin and was shocked we went with Smith. But I heard the Eagles were trying to trade down again and we couldn't reach any sort of deal with anyone. Smith wasn't going to be on the board when we came back up again, so we took a guy Chip really likes.
This is a really deep WR class this year, so I'm not that concerned about passing on a WR with the 26th pick. And I'll take an additional 3rd round pick over picking Dennard or Verrett at 22.
The Chiefs made a boneheaded move not raking a WR. They desperately need one.
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on May 09, 2014, 06:44:56 PM
Josh Gordon...
FUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Yeah... wtf... that'd be awful to lose him all season. Hopefully, it'll work itself out.
Quote from: Mike Powers on May 09, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
The Chiefs made a boneheaded move not raking a WR. They desperately need one.
DEEP WR class bro. Dee Ford was a good pick-up.
Don't forget they don't have a 2nd rounder.
Quote from: Mike Powers on May 09, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Don't forget they don't have a 2nd rounder.
You'll get a quality WR on day three in this draft. Keenan Allen was taken in the third round and as long as you have Alex Smith, great WR isn't a need.
They will get Bruce Ellington in the third round.
Quote from: JustinP on May 09, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
They will get Bruce Ellington in the third round.
You were saying?
Quote from: The Soul of Philly on May 09, 2014, 08:19:41 PM
You'll get a quality WR on day three in this draft. Keenan Allen was taken in the third round and as long as you have Alex Smith, great WR isn't a need.
Alex Smith needs qualified targets to throw to. With Bowe getting older, and McCluster gone, we need help in the receiving core badly. The defense was the strength of this team last year, while the offense was the drizzling shits.
Love moving up and grabnbing Jordan Matthews... he was one of my top WR's oin this class. I liked him better than Lee, Benjamin, Latimer... so very happy about that. He'll ge to see playing time for sure next season and I think he'll complement Maclin and Cooper very well.
As for Josh Huff. Fuck him. He sucks. Awful pick there. We should have grabbed a secondary player or I dunno... another LB. That was Chip being too nice to a former player.Josh would have been there in Round 4 if we really wanted him.
Hopefully we start Round 4 off good with a solid pick.
Quote from: Jon on May 10, 2014, 07:36:31 AM
Love moving up and grabnbing Jordan Matthews... he was one of my top WR's oin this class. I liked him better than Lee, Benjamin, Latimer... so very happy about that. He'll ge to see playing time for sure next season and I think he'll complement Maclin and Cooper very well.
As for Josh Huff. Fuck him. He sucks. Awful pick there. We should have grabbed a secondary player or I dunno... another LB. That was Chip being too nice to a former player.Josh would have been there in Round 4 if we really wanted him.
Hopefully we start Round 4 off good with a solid pick.
My thinking is that Matthews will be opposite Cooper and Huff will be a future slot guy, possible Maclin replacement.
I'm so happy with everything the Browns did except for the Gordon situation. I'll even settle on J Football being here but I'll give real thoughts on that later.
But...now we need receiver depth with his fuck up. Haden and Gilbert on the corners is just nasty. I really did like that pick especially getting a 1st from the Bills next year which they should likely suck again but who knows maybe they wont. Good D out there.
But then day 2 we get an OT, an OLB, and a RB. Basically trying to acquire depth at all our positions of need. I'm just glad to see that.
2 more rounds down....still no WR.
....and unless we trade back into the draft, we get no WR.
What. The. Fuck.
Michael Sam drafted by the Rams.
Quote from: Jon on May 10, 2014, 07:36:31 AM
Love moving up and grabnbing Jordan Matthews... he was one of my top WR's oin this class. I liked him better than Lee, Benjamin, Latimer... so very happy about that. He'll ge to see playing time for sure next season and I think he'll complement Maclin and Cooper very well.
Litterally texted almost this identical thing to my buddy who asked me about the pick.
On Twitter I CALLED Watkins and Reynolds and their great. After coming to the assuming Philly wants Jenkins/Wolff.....which if Wolf can stay healthy can be a good pair of starting safeties....Reynolds has the measurable to be a great depth guy.
Watkins (as a Gator fan) was and is the best out of the 3 Gator corners in the draft. Purifoy and Roberson were overhyped, which Watkins consistantly would shut guys down, and is more athletically well rounder than either. Glad we got him....could see him land a starting job after camp.
I too disliked the Oregon moves. Huff is alright....but we could have attacked someone with more value here. Huff is our 4th guy, maybe 5th if Benn is healthy....we could have gone Oline to get some guard depth or a secondary player...but Im happy with Watkins and Reynolds, but again Chip may have packages already that Huff will be able to be used in day 1, so Like I said earlier Chip in his first draft did excellent aside from Barkley....so we have to assume he did a good job once more.
Love the UDFA pick up of Trey Burton, and Henry Josey, but damn there was still some defensive talent im shocked we didnt go for, ESPECIALLY the linebackers.
- SS Craig Loston (Still out there)
- CB Marcus Roberson (Still out there)
- LB Shayne Skov (Niners)
- LB Max Bullough (Texans)
- LB Christian Jones (Bears)
- LB Adrian Hubbard (Still out there)
- DT DeAndre Coleman (Jags)
Chargers signed 17 undrafted free agents including Auburn's Chris Davis who had that epic 109 yard touchdown against Alabama last season. They also got Joe Flacco's younger brother Michael. Overall I like the players they drafted. Jason Verrett is a great fit for the defense. Jeremiah Attaochu is another good fit and wanted to be a Charger before the draft started. Grice is the perfect fit for the offense since Arizona State runs the same style of offense. Reese is a speedy receiver who is a good compliment to the receiving core. Watt and Carrethers were all good fits as well.
Quote from: GM Franchise on May 11, 2014, 01:50:33 PM
Chargers signed 17 undrafted free agents including Auburn's Chris Davis who had that epic 109 yard touchdown against Alabama last season. They also got Joe Flacco's younger brother Michael. Overall I like the players they drafted. Jason Verrett is a great fit for the defense. Jeremiah Attaochu is another good fit and wanted to be a Charger before the draft started. Grice is the perfect fit for the offense since Arizona State runs the same style of offense. Reese is a speedy receiver who is a good compliment to the receiving core. Watt and Carrethers were all good fits as well.
In others words..
Everybody San Diego drafted is a good fit.
Quote from: JustinP on May 11, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
In others words..
Everybody San Diego drafted is a good fit.
Well they went for guys who could easily be slotted into the rotations on both offense and defense so yes. Wasn't the best draft overall, I think the Rams and Vikings had the best, but it was solid and they addressed all the areas of need with their picks.
Quote from: JustinP on May 11, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
In others words..
Everybody San Diego drafted is a good fit.
+1
Quote from: Cory on May 11, 2014, 12:58:22 PM
Litterally texted almost this identical thing to my buddy who asked me about the pick.
On Twitter I CALLED Watkins and Reynolds and their great. After coming to the assuming Philly wants Jenkins/Wolff.....which if Wolf can stay healthy can be a good pair of starting safeties....Reynolds has the measurable to be a great depth guy.
Watkins (as a Gator fan) was and is the best out of the 3 Gator corners in the draft. Purifoy and Roberson were overhyped, which Watkins consistantly would shut guys down, and is more athletically well rounder than either. Glad we got him....could see him land a starting job after camp.
I too disliked the Oregon moves. Huff is alright....but we could have attacked someone with more value here. Huff is our 4th guy, maybe 5th if Benn is healthy....we could have gone Oline to get some guard depth or a secondary player...but Im happy with Watkins and Reynolds, but again Chip may have packages already that Huff will be able to be used in day 1, so Like I said earlier Chip in his first draft did excellent aside from Barkley....so we have to assume he did a good job once more.
Love the UDFA pick up of Trey Burton, and Henry Josey, but damn there was still some defensive talent im shocked we didnt go for, ESPECIALLY the linebackers.
- SS Craig Loston (Still out there)
- CB Marcus Roberson (Still out there)
- LB Shayne Skov (Niners)
- LB Max Bullough (Texans)
- LB Christian Jones (Bears)
- LB Adrian Hubbard (Still out there)
- DT DeAndre Coleman (Jags)
I was pleased we picked up Watkins in the 4th Round. He was someone I really liked out of the secondary draftees that would go on Day 2/3. Huff and Hart... that is just Chip getting guys that knows his system. I guess you could call it smart in a way... but I thought there was better value on the board when Huff was picked. Instead of Huff, I would have liked to see Moncrief from Miss State or Dri Archer from Kent State picked there.
As for Hart, I actually really like the kid. He has the potential to turn into a productive pass rusher.
I really liked our Day 3 picks. Even Beau Allen has some traits that could get him some playing time this upcoming season.
...wasnt Martavis Bryant too from Clemson still there when Huff was taken? Would much rather him too.
Sad to say, at least here in Canada, I`ve seen more about Michael Sam getting pick 7th last than Clowney or any other 1st round pick.
Quote from: Cory on May 11, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
Sad to say, at least here in Canada, I`ve seen more about Michael Sam getting pick 7th last than Clowney or any other 1st round pick.
Don't know why it's sad because it's the same here.
Quote from: Cory on May 11, 2014, 05:21:47 PM
Sad to say, at least here in Canada, I`ve seen more about Michael Sam getting pick 7th last than Clowney or any other 1st round pick.
And rightfully so, he's made NFL history. Clowney was drafted on Thursday... he was talked about quite a bit the day after. Sam was drafted last night... so it makes sense.
What's sad is how far he fell.
Would have loved him in Eagle green.
The cowboys signed this kid. And his video is funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsJ5hpdjqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGsJ5hpdjqs)
Quote from: Jon on May 11, 2014, 05:41:35 PM
And rightfully so, he's made NFL history. Clowney was drafted on Thursday... he was talked about quite a bit the day after. Sam was drafted last night... so it makes sense.
What's sad is how far he fell.
Would have loved him in Eagle green.
He will be a special teams player at best. Hes undersized height wise and lacks speed. He had one productive year and scouts knew that.
Quote from: JustinP on May 12, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
He will be a special teams player at best. Hes undersized height wise and lacks speed. He had one productive year and scouts knew that.
Agreed.
I'm not sure he even makes that team in St. Louis. Chances are he'll spend the year on the practice squad.
I'd love to find out more about him being gay. I don't think I have heard enough about that or the religious values of Tim Tebow.
Kaepernick is not worth $110 million. Hes not even a Top 10 quarterback.
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 07:21:31 AM
Kaepernick is not worth $110 million. Hes not even a Top 10 quarterback.
I think he's easily a top 10 QB.
Who are the 10 QBs you'd have in front of him?
My list:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. Russell Wilson
7. Philip Rivers
8. Colin Kaepernick
9. Matthew Stafford
10. Ben Roethlisberger
Quote from: Jon on June 05, 2014, 07:41:20 AM
I think he's easily a top 10 QB.
Who are the 10 QBs you'd have in front of him?
My list:
1. Peyton Manning
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Tom Brady
4. Drew Brees
5. Andrew Luck
6. Russell Wilson
7. Philip Rivers
8. Colin Kaepernick
9. Matthew Stafford
10. Ben Roethlisberger
Other than the ones you listed...
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
RGIII (healthy)
Eli Manning
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
Other than the ones you listed...
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
RGIII (healthy)
Eli Manning
Cam Newton is the only one I would even consider into my Top 10.
Eli Manning isn't even Top 15 material.
So you don't think Matt Ryan is better than Big Ben, Matthew Stafford, or Phillip Rivers?
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 09:05:53 AM
So you don't think Matt Ryan is better than Big Ben, Matthew Stafford, or Phillip Rivers?
Nope.
EDIT: MAYBE Big Ben. But I like Stafford and Rivers better.
Im not happy what the deal (I agree with Justin, Kaep is BARELY a top 10 QB, way too much) and what it means for Philly when it comes to sign Nick Foles.
Now basing this off last season + talent
1. Rogers
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Brady
5. Roethlisberger
6. Luck
7. Newton
8. Rivers
9. Foles
10. Ryan
11. Wilson
12. Kaepernick
Kaepernick is far too hot and cold to warrant money a consistent producer can get, sure he wins...but outside of that Packers game how many games has he won on his own? Enough to justify that kinda $$$? He had 5 games last season where he threw over 200 yards..
Quote from: Cory on June 05, 2014, 11:33:36 AM
Im not happy what the deal (I agree with Justin, Kaep is BARELY a top 10 QB, way too much) and what it means for Philly when it comes to sign Nick Foles.
Now basing this off last season + talent
1. Rogers
2. Manning
3. Brees
4. Brady
5. Roethlisberger
6. Luck
7. Newton
8. Rivers
9. Foles
10. Ryan
11. Wilson
12. Kaepernick
Kaepernick is far too hot and cold to warrant money a consistent producer can get, sure he wins...but outside of that Packers game how many games has he won on his own? Enough to justify that kinda $$$? He had 5 games last season where he threw over 200 yards..
Foles shouldn't even be in the consideration for Top 10. We'll see what he does this season... if he can replicate what he did last season, then he is welcome into the conversation.
And his deal isn't even all that great. He only signed a $12 million signing bonus, which means the Niners will be able to sign some of the playmakers around him. After next season and the deals Luck and Wilson... and potentially RGIII... this deal will be nothing.
You can't spell elite without Eli.
Quote from: Mike Powers on June 05, 2014, 06:44:29 PM
You can't spell elite without Eli.
you also can spell: h
E Lacks accuracy with 27
Interceptions
Quote from: Cory on June 05, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
you also can spell: hE Lacks accuracy with 27 Interceptions
He's also guided his team to two Superbowls despite a lackluster supporting cast.
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 10:05:50 PM
His defense also guided his team to two Superbowls despite a lackluster quarterback.
Fixed.
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 10:05:50 PM
He's also guided his team to two Superbowls despite a lackluster supporting cast.
what has he done for them lately? You cant live in a history book.
Quote from: Jon on June 05, 2014, 10:10:00 PM
Fixed.
Yeah, his pass to David Tyrell to put them in position to win the game was all thanks to the defense.
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 10:24:12 PM
Yeah, his pass to David Tyrell to put them in position to win the game was all thanks to the defense.
That was 6 years ago.
Quote from: Cory on June 05, 2014, 10:11:49 PM
what has he done for them lately? You cant live in a history book.
And if you live in the realm of focusing on a one season window then Nick Foles should be making $150 million.
Quote from: JustinP on June 05, 2014, 10:05:50 PM
He's also guided his team to two Superbowls despite a lackluster supporting cast.
Agreed although there were a few good complimentary pieces there such as Nicks, Cruz, Manningham, etc. that helped with that but overall the supporting class was lackluster in both Super Bowl runs.
You realize there is two sides to the ball right guys? Eli's defense was amazing.
Back to the QB list...why do people continually put Ben Roethlisberger on that list, he's in that same boat as Eli. Yes, he has rings, and I do think he's good. But he needs to do some more before he's back on that top 10 list, especially that high
Big Ben has (thankfully) regressed these past few seasons, but once upon a time he was one of the best QBs in the league.
Quote from: T-Flower on June 06, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Big Ben has (thankfully) regressed these past few seasons, but once upon a time he was one of the best QBs in the league.
Quote from: T-Flower on June 06, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Big Ben has (thankfully) regressed these past few seasons, but once upon a time he was one of the best QBs in the league.
Based on his stats, I don't really see a regression at all.
Quote from: Jon on June 07, 2014, 08:24:04 AM
Based on his stats, I don't really see a regression at all.
I agree. He's been injured more but the stats have still been good.
He'd be first on the top ten list of quarterbacks who try to force women into sex.
Namath would be second.
He doesn't care that the Jets are stru-ggg-iling, he just wants to kiss you.
His numbers didn't regress because he won two championships as a run first team and only passed 20 times a game. Now he's throwing like everyone else and his numbers are the same as when they were running, that's why they aren't winning games now.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11078730/kansas-city-chiefs-release-cornerback-brandon-flowers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11078730/kansas-city-chiefs-release-cornerback-brandon-flowers)
Would love for Philadelphia to move in and pick this guy up.
Seven landing spots for Brandon Flowers
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000358558/article/seven-landing-spots-for-brandon-flowers (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000358558/article/seven-landing-spots-for-brandon-flowers)
QuoteBrandon Flowers is 28 years old and made his first Pro Bowl in 2013. That honor was mostly a lifetime achievement award, but there's no doubt he's been among the NFL's top 20 cornerbacks over the last five years. He doesn't fit the normal profile of a player released in June.
Cut by the Kansas City Chiefs on Friday because of salary cap concerns, Flowers immediately should become the most sought after free agent in an otherwise underwhelming market.
Flowers is coming off a mediocre season, but this release was more about money and the team's new coaching staff. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport noted that Flowers did not love playing on the inside last year and could have skipped minicamp next week. He was on the trade block earlier this offseason, and this move will save the Chiefs $7.5 million against the salary cap. (Alex Smith says thanks.) Kansas City had to create cap room, and this staff prefers bigger cornerbacks. But Flowers was still probably the Chiefs' best player at the position.
Flowers will not lack for suitors. If he had been a free agent back in March, he would have cracked our top 25 free agents. Here are some potential landing spots:
The Favorites
1. Atlanta Falcons: Rapoport reports that the Falcons have been monitoring Flowers' availability, and they could be ready to pounce. Second-year pros Desmond Trufant and Robert Alford are a very promising duo, but the group lacks depth. A Flowers addition would give the Falcons one of the best trios in the league. New Falcons front office member Scott Pioli signed Flowers to his "$48.75 million extension" in Kansas City. (Flowers only got half that money) This marriage makes a lot of sense, and the Falcons have the cap room to get it done.
2. Houston Texans: There's another direct connection from Kansas City here. Defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel coached Flowers, who is perfect for his system. Flowers could combine with Johnathan Joseph and Kareem Jackson to form a strong cornerback group.
Logical fits
3. Carolina Panthers: General manager Dave Gettleman has taken his salary cap medicine for much of the offseason, but their huge need at cornerback is hard to ignore.
4. Detroit Lions: Flowers would be a massive upgrade from Chris Houston, who was released on Friday.
5. New York Jets: Dee Milliner and Dimitri Patterson are a grisly-looking starting combination. Can GM John Idzik move quickly enough?
6. San Francisco 49ers: This is totally subjective, but signing Flowers just feels like a 49ers kind of move. The 49ers have a lot of players at the position, but not many they can rely on.
7. Oakland Raiders: They sure like to spend money. If anything, Flowers is too young to fit their free-agent profile.
The latest "Around the League Podcast" discussed intriguing rookies and talked about the Marshawn Lynch situation.
Quote from: Jon on June 13, 2014, 05:50:11 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11078730/kansas-city-chiefs-release-cornerback-brandon-flowers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11078730/kansas-city-chiefs-release-cornerback-brandon-flowers)
Would love for Philadelphia to move in and pick this guy up.
Same.
*sigh*
I understand WHY they did it, but I still hate letting him go.
Patent Office: Redskins 'disparaging'
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11102096/us-patent-office-cancels-washington-redskins-trademark (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11102096/us-patent-office-cancels-washington-redskins-trademark)
QuoteIn what might be the most significant pressure put on Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder to change his team's name, the United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled the team's trademarks on the basis that it is "disparaging to Native Americans."
In its 2-1 ruling issued on Wednesday, the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, an independent tribunal within the USPTO, wrote that it was charged with determining only whether the trademark was offensive to the people it referenced, not the entire U.S. population. Five Native Americans, representing four tribes, brought the case against the league in 2006.
Inside Wednesday's Decision
Redskins The U.S. Patent Office ruled that the Redskins' trademark protections should be canceled, a decision that applies new financial and political pressure on the team to change its name. Of note:
• The ruling involves six uses of the "Redskins" name trademarked by the team from 1967 to 1990. The team's logo remains a trademark legally held by the team and is unaffected at this time.
• If the decision stands, it would mean the team can continue to use the name, but it would lose a significant portion of its ability to protect the financial interests connected to it.
• The Redskins have appealed. The cancellation for trademark protections will be on hold while the matter makes its way through the courts. That process could take years.
• This is the second time the federal trademark board had issued an opinion on the case. A similar ruling from 1999 was overturned on a technicality in 2003.
• If the Redskins were to lose the rights to their trademarks, the question will be whether state and common laws would allow them to retain their exclusivity of use. "The law is really unclear on this," said Fordham law professor Sonia Katyal, who specializes in intellectual property. "We haven't really had something like this where you have a team and so many other interested parties involved, so we're treading new ground."
Although the Redskins name and past logos are involved in the decision, the trademarks that were canceled do not include the current Redskins logo.
"Petitioners have found a preponderance of evidence that a substantial amount of Native Americans found the term Redskins to be disparaging when used in connection with professional football," the ruling said. "While this may reveal differing opinions with the community, it does not negate the opinions of those who find it disparaging."
The ruling does not force the NFL or Snyder to change the name, but trademarks registered between 1967 and 1990 will no longer be protected under federal law if the NFL and the Redskins lose an appeal to the U.S. District Court.
Bob Raskopf, the trademark attorney for the Redskins, said the team will appeal Wednesday's ruling and is confident the court will successfully overturn it. He noted that the team's trademark registrations will remain valid while the case is appealed.
"We are confident we will prevail once again, and that the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board's divided ruling will be overturned on appeal. This case is no different than an earlier case, where the Board cancelled the Redskins' trademark registrations, and where a federal district court disagreed and reversed the Board," Raskopf said in a statement.
In 1999, a panel ruled to cancel the trademarks after a battle with Native American groups. The decision was later overturned on a technicality after the court decided that the plaintiffs were too old and should have filed their complaint soon after the Redskins registered their nickname in 1967.
"The evidence in the current claim is virtually identical to the evidence a federal judge decided was insufficient more than ten years ago. We expect the same ultimate outcome here," Raskopf said in his statement.
Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., told ESPN.com that she expects Wednesday's ruling to be upheld on appeal.
"This puts a big dent in their business model of trying to gain revenue from a disparaging term of slur," she said. "I find it very unlikely that someone is going to overrule the patent office on this. This is a huge decision by a federal agency."
Cantwell, with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, wrote a letter signed by 49 Democratic senators last month that encouraged a name change. She said that if the Redskins and the league refuse to change the name, there are many options available for the Senate, including perhaps ridding the league of its tax-exempt status.
Reid also applauded the decision.
"Daniel Snyder may be the last person in the world to realize this, but it's just a matter of time until he is forced to do the right thing and change the name," said Reid, who has said previously he will not attend Redskins home games until the team changes its name.
The new case was launched in 2006 by a younger group of Native Americans and was heard by the board in March 2013.
The group argued that the Redskins should lose their federal trademark protection based on a law that prohibits registered names that are disparaging, scandalous, contemptuous or disreputable.
"The U.S. Patent Office has now restated the obvious truth that Native Americans, civil rights leaders, athletes, religious groups, state legislative bodies, Members of Congress and the president have all echoed: taxpayer resources cannot be used to help private companies profit off the promotion of dictionary defined racial slurs," said Oneida Indian Nation representative Ray Halbritter and National Congress of American Indians executive director Jackie Pata in a joint statement.
"If the most basic sense of morality, decency and civility has not yet convinced the Washington team and the NFL to stop using this hateful slur, then hopefully today's patent ruling will, if only because it imperils the ability of the team's billionaire owner to keep profiting off the denigration and dehumanization of Native Americans.
Without protection, any fan can produce and sell Washington Redskins gear without having to pay the league or the team for royalties and wouldn't be in violation of any law for doing so. NFL teams split merchandise royalties 31 ways -- the Dallas Cowboys have their own deal -- so league owners could see losing the trademark rights as a major negative.
"This is not a death blow, but it's a good jab," said Frank Vuono, who formerly headed up the NFL's retail operations before starting his own firm, 16W Sports Marketing.
Vuono said that not only could merchandise be compromised, but if the Redskins someday lose their rights to the trademarks, non-sponsors could try to use the marks to associate with the team without affiliation. That, Vuono said, would devalue the proposition of being an official sponsor.
The Redskins are an integral part of league sales. From April 1, 2012, to March 2013, the league said more jerseys of Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III were sold than of any other player in a single year in NFL history.
"In a business like professional football, there is a huge amount of revenue in merchandising," Christine Farley, a law professor at American University who specializes in trademarks, told ABC News. "If pro football loses the ability to monopolize that market, that may convince them to change their name."
If the Redskins lose the rights to their trademarks, the question will be whether state and common laws would allow them to retain their exclusivity of use.
"The law is really unclear on this," said Sonia Katyal, the Joseph M. McLaughlin Professor of Law at Fordham who specializes in intellectual property. "We haven't really had something like this where you have a team and so many other interested parties involved, so we're treading new ground."
Suzan Shown Harjo, one of the plaintiffs who testified at last year's hearing, said she was "thrilled and delighted'' with the decision.
Redskins owner Snyder, asked by reporters Wednesday for his reaction to the trademark decision, simply waved to reporters and did not comment.
Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss called the decision "sad."
"It's sad, but like I said before, it's something that I can't control, so I'm going to leave it alone," Moss told reporters. "I hope the best for it because I feel like, as a Redskin, I don't think that we wore this name trying to bring any harm to anybody. A lot of us out here as players didn't know of the history or nothing like that, and we've been kind of privileged to get a little bit of insight on some of the history and just with that you still don't know enough."
Griffin said he and his teammates would try to keep their focus on the field.
"Our jobs as players is to focus on what we can on this field day in and day out and let the league take care of that stuff. And when it's the right time, then we can voice whatever it is that we know about the situation," he said.
Officials the NFL could not immediately be reached for comment.
Meanwhile, Miami University in Ohio, which also once used the Redskins nickname, used Wednesday's ruling as an opportunity to tweet to the NFL team.
Can I have a TL;DR version?
Basically, any trademark issued between 1967 and 1990 will be null and void should their appeal fail. That doesn't force them to change their name, but it could end up costing the franchise a lot of cash.
And, a panel made the same ruling in 1999, but it was overturned in a technicality. (The plaintiffs were "too old" and should have fired the grievance in 1967 if they found it offensive.)
Honestly its tough to see it from a native americans perspective...but this issue to me seems like people have to much time on their hands if they devote so much time to trying to change a sports teams names.
DONALD TRUMP, DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH THE MOTHER FUCKING BUFFALO BILLS, YOU DICK FACED VAGINA LIPPED SHIT STAIN PIECE OF SHIT MOTHER FUCKER. FUCK OFF!
Quote from: jagilki on June 20, 2014, 06:56:18 AM
DONALD TRUMP, DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH THE MOTHER FUCKING BUFFALO BILLS, YOU DICK FACED VAGINA LIPPED SHIT STAIN PIECE OF SHIT MOTHER FUCKER. FUCK OFF!
You mean the Toronto Bills?
I'm from CT and we have a ton of Native Americans. Daniel Snyder wouldn't walk up to any of them and call them a Redskin to their face...therefore its "disparaging". The name should be changed.
Why would you not want Donald Trump to own the Bills, everything the guy touches turns to gold? He's a billionaire, he's a proven comodity, you'd rather have some old guy who doesn't care as much about his legacy. I don't think he would do anything but build up that team...he has a legacy to worry about that's honestly already bigger than the Bills.
Quote from: Black Republicans on June 21, 2014, 05:38:05 PM
Why would you not want Donald Trump to own the Bills, everything the guy touches turns to gold? He's a billionaire, he's a proven comodity, you'd rather have some old guy who doesn't care as much about his legacy. I don't think he would do anything but build up that team...he has a legacy to worry about that's honestly already bigger than the Bills.
The New Jersey Generals of the USFL...thats why.
That was doomed from the start...Robert Kraft, the Rooneys, Ralph Wilson...whoever you name couldn't have turned around an USFL team
Name the two biggest stars EVER of the USFL?
To make it easier, just check the New Jersey Generals roster.
Actually, my fault...I was just reading he sold the team the same year. Probably for a profit.
You need to watch the ESPN 30 for 30 on the rise and fall of the USFL.
That should tell you why Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near owning an NFL team.
Quote from: Jon on June 22, 2014, 10:00:16 AM
You need to watch the ESPN 30 for 30 on the rise and fall of the USFL.
That should tell you why Donald Trump shouldn't be anywhere near owning an NFL team.
^
I'l check that out. Thanks!
That's one of the few I havent watched.
I watched it...and Donald Trumps ambition to move to the fall was the end of the league.
Do you really think he could tamper with what the NFL has going on now? He actually won the lawsuit he went forward with, but they said he was too rich. lol. I mean, I actually agree with him in the sense he probably got it as far as it could have went.
I was like 2 and 3 years old when the league was around, but it'd be pretty cool to have football in the spring. Not sure how well it would be doing tho.
Donald Trump is a great fall guy, but is there any fault in the owners not being able to pay their players?
30 years ago, Trump made a mistake in an upstart league. I don't know how AT ALL that translates to modern football and what he could do to/with the Buffalo Bills.
The San Diego Chargers just signed Brandon Flowers :D
Mike Powers, I've got some Bad News for ya...
Brandon Flowers had Chiefs in mind when joining Bolts
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000361716/article/flowers-had-chiefs-in-mind-when-signing-with-chargers?campaign=Twitter_atl (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000361716/article/flowers-had-chiefs-in-mind-when-signing-with-chargers?campaign=Twitter_atl)
QuoteBrandon Flowers' decision to sign with the San Diego Chargers is both business and personal.
The veteran cornerback, released by the Kansas City Chiefs last week, explained Wednesday on NFL Network how he reacted to the move and his motivation behind signing with the Chargers.
"I was very surprised when it happened," Flowers said on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access. "I know I hit the (salary) cap pretty hard, but I thought if I was going to get traded or released it would be in February or March sometime.
"The timing that they did it, it kind of hit me. So that's why I stayed in the division. I want to play the Chiefs again, let them know how I felt about it."
Flowers spent the first six seasons of his career in Kansas City, starting 87 of 88 games and earning a Pro Bowl nod last season. Flowers proved himself to be a staunch self-believer when asked who was the best cornerback in the game.
"Oh, first off, let me just say I'm the best corner in football," he said with a grin. "Let's get that clear. Don't let my injuries last year fool you, or take my name from the top list."
Flowers went on to name Darrelle Revis as the corner he admires most. Like Revis, Flowers has something to prove after being dumped well before his contract was up. Never underestimate the power of motivation
I understand the motivation behind letting him go, but I disagree with it.
Buffalo Bills concerned Kiko Alonso suffered torn ACL
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000362967/article/buffalo-bills-concerned-kiko-alonso-suffered-torn-acl (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000362967/article/buffalo-bills-concerned-kiko-alonso-suffered-torn-acl)
QuoteKiko Alonso was a revelation last season as a rookie linebacker for the Buffalo Bills. His status for the 2014 season is now in doubt.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports that the Bills are concerned Alonso suffered a torn ACL, according to a source informed of the player's situation. He will undergo an MRI to confirm the news, and that test likely will come tomorrow, NFL Media's Albert Breer reports.
"Hoping for the best, but expecting the worse," a Bills source told Rapoport.
The Bills released a statement Tuesday night that Alonso injured his knee while working out in Oregon.
"We do not have the details at this point, but early indications are that it may be significant," Bills general manager Doug Whaley said.
Alonso underwent surgery to his hip this offseason, and his return to the field was already unclear.
The Bills were expected to move Alonso to weakside linebacker this season, with free-agent pickup Brandon Spikes in the middle. Nigel Bradham is the most likely candidate to replace Alonso.
Buffalo has decent linebacker depth with third-round pick Preston Brown a candidate for passing downs, but losing Alonso would be a huge blow to their loaded defensive front seven. The Bills also lost defensive coordinator Mike Pettine in the offseason, and have changed their scheme with new coordinator Jim Schwartz in town.
This is a team that needs its defense to lead the way. Playing without Alonso would make that a lot tougher.
brutal loss, such an exciting LB
For the love of god Josh Gordon get a white dude in your posse, who could speak up about your horrendous life choices.
Quote from: Cory on July 06, 2014, 02:34:41 PM
For the love of god Josh Gordon get a white dude in your posse, who could speak up about your horrendous life choices.
CAUSE BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS!!
Quote from: PapaPancho on July 06, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
CAUSE BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS!!
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Quote from: The Soul of Philly on July 06, 2014, 10:56:06 PM
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+1
Gordon just needs a dude like this
(http://nerdlike.com/wp-content/uploads/napoleon-dynamite.jpg)
to maybe not stay down with the homies all the time and not ruin your career.
Man you guys are some racist.
Quote from: Cory on July 06, 2014, 02:34:41 PM
For the love of god Josh Gordon get a white dude in your posse, who could speak up about your horrendous life choices.
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(https://assets-sports.vice.com/images/2014/07/07/johnny-manziel-rolling-bills-in-a-vegas-bathroom-here-come-the-media-pitchforks-body-image-1404742717.png)
Johnny Football looking for the coke sponsorship.
And man you guys are too fucking uptight, im sorry if I offended all you people, please smite my karma you bunch of nerds haha. It was a bit from comedian Bill Burr about Plaxico Burress gun charges, saying man...all that talent and money and all he needs is one white dude from the burbs who can be like, maybe that's not a good idea to have a gun out.
EDIT: wont elaborate, I'll move on. I forgot Im on the internet.
Johnny Football is a party animal.
and Andre Johnson trade talks pick up. If he goes to the Pats my hatred for them rises even further. I think Cleveland would be a good choice, potential playoff contender and he could mentor Gordon
Quote from: Cory on July 10, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
and Andre Johnson trade talks pick up. If he goes to the Pats my hatred for them rises even further. I think Cleveland would be a good choice, potential playoff contender and he could mentor Gordon
Gordon is gone, there is no mentoring him. Do you know how many people are reaching out to him and saying "Man, you can't be doing this kind of stuff" and that was before his year he had.
I could see Pittsburgh making a move for him, dunno why exactly, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Quote from: Cory on July 10, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
and Andre Johnson trade talks pick up. If he goes to the Pats my hatred for them rises even further. I think Cleveland would be a good choice, potential playoff contender and he could mentor Gordon
Cleveland needs to cut him.
It's a similar situation when Philadelphia had to cut Chris Carter for off the field issues. It might not work for him as it did for Carter, but it's the next step.
Oakland Raiders executives reportedly met with San Antonio officials about possible move
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/07/oakland_raiders_executives_rep.html (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/07/oakland_raiders_executives_rep.html)
QuoteAl Davis may be dead, but the Oakland Raiders' wanderlust persists.
Raiders owner Mark Davis (Al's son) was among three team executive who met with San Antonio officials earlier this month to discuss a possible franchise relocation, according to a report Tuesday by MySanAntonio.com. The Raiders' lease with the city of Oakland to play in O.co Coliseum expires following this season.
San Antonio already has a stadium built, though the 21-year old Alamodome would likely need significant upgrades before being ready to host an NFL team. Texas San-Antonio and the arena football San Antonio Talons play their home games in the building, which also hosts the annual Alamo Bowl.
Any proposed franchise move would need to pass an league-wide ownership vote, with 24 of 32 required for approval. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello largely declined comment about the Raiders possible moving to San Antonio.
"We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment," Aiello told MySanAntonio. "We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to."
San Antonio has often been used as leverage for NFL teams considering relocating, including the New Orleans Saints, the Minnesota Vikings, the Arizona Cardinals and the San Diego Chargers. The Saints played several home games in San Antonio in 2005 after Hurricane Katrina had rendered the Louisiana (now Mercedes Benz) Superdome unplayable.
The Raiders have moved twice in their history, to Los Angeles in 1982 and then back to Oakland in 1995. Mercurial team owner Al Davis died in 2011.
NFL QB's on Facebook returns Monday. :D
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Bengals sign Andy Dalton to a 6 yr / $115 mil contact extension.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal)
Quote from: JackHondo on August 04, 2014, 10:57:55 AM
Bengals sign Andy Dalton to a 6 yr / $115 mil contact extension.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal)
LOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOL
thats fake right?
Quote from: JackHondo on August 04, 2014, 10:57:55 AM
Bengals sign Andy Dalton to a 6 yr / $115 mil contact extension.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11306771/andy-dalton-cincinnati-bengals-reach-six-year-115-million-deal)
Is this the latest story from the Onion Sports Network?
First off...HAHAHAHA
Secondly, everything I'm reading say that people suspect it will be like Kaep's deal where he can be cut each year without the team owing him money for subsequent remaining years
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on August 04, 2014, 01:51:21 PM
First off...HAHAHAHA
Secondly, everything I'm reading say that people suspect it will be like Kaep's deal where he can be cut each year without the team owing him money for subsequent remaining years
In other words, if you're mediocrity helps us get to the playoffs you are safe. If not.......peace out homie!
that deal is on JaMarcus stupidity.
Quote from: Cory on August 04, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
that deal is on JaMarcus stupidity.
He's not that bad... it's more like Flacco stupidity.
Quote from: Jon on August 04, 2014, 03:33:48 PM
He's not that bad... it's more like Flacco stupidity.
At least Flacco got a super bowl....Dalton is nothing without AJ Green....Green shoulda got that kinda money.
damn Jon....not looking forward to when its time to negotiate for Foles
Quote from: Cory on August 04, 2014, 03:45:36 PM
At least Flacco got a super bowl....Dalton is nothing without AJ Green....Green shoulda got that kinda money.
damn Jon....not looking forward to when its time to negotiate for Foles
Well, he'll be worth it, if he can consistently put up the numbers he put up in 2013.
Here's my thought on the matter.
I heard someone say something on ESPN a little bit earlier (don't remember who it was) but it was absolutely true. There's no middle class in the NFL for quarterbacks. Either you're on your rookie contract or you're getting paid beaucoup bucks. We may not like it (especially me, since that contract may make it a little bit harder to extend Burfict's contract), but it's an unfortunate fact of life in the NFL.
Do I think that's a little much for a QB who hasn't won a playoff game yet? Probably so. But from what I hear it's structured with a lot of incentives, so he has to play up to snuff to get a lot of that paper. (I don't know that for positive, just going on what I've read on the Bengals message boards.)
I was on the fence about Dalton up to a few weeks ago. And then in an interview, AJ Green said that the only quarterback he wants to play with is Dalton. So that pretty much sold me. If the best player wants that guy, he should get him.
Nah the Bengals are fucking stupid, there are so many options for QB in the league. The position is deep, any schmuck can play the position....
Quote from: Jon on August 04, 2014, 03:33:48 PM
He's not that bad... it's more like Flacco stupidity.
Flacco is a way better option. At least he got them a ring.
Quote from: T-Brother on August 04, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
Nah the Bengals are fucking stupid, there are so many options for QB in the league. The position is deep, any schmuck can play the position....
I agree with this.
...
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 04, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
Flacco is a way better option. At least he got them a ring.
I agree with this.
I'm guessing you didn't catch Bones sarcasm, lol
lol
Jon restores my faith.
Quote from: Jon on August 04, 2014, 05:36:59 PM
I'm guessing you didn't catch Bones sarcasm, lol
That was the truth, there was no sarcasm in there. Dalton is good but he ain't worth that overpaid contract they gave him.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 04, 2014, 05:58:54 PM
That was the truth, there was no sarcasm in there. Dalton is good but he ain't worth that overpaid contract they gave him.
You think the QB position is deep and any schmuck can play it?
Quote from: Jon on August 04, 2014, 06:02:21 PM
You think the QB position is deep and any schmuck can play it?
Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 04, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.
Tell that to Dan Marino.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 04, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
Let me put it this way. If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl at QB, ANYONE can do it.
Then why can't Dalton?
Dilfer didn't win a Super Bowl... he just didn't lose it. The Alex Smith of todays game.
Quote from: T-Brother on August 04, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
Then why can't Dalton?
Dalton is 0-3 in the playoffs. He's basically Romo North.
Quote from: Jon on August 04, 2014, 06:23:39 PM
Dilfer didn't win a Super Bowl... he just didn't lose it. The Alex Smith of todays game.
So Dilfer and Alex Smith are Jeff Hostetler?
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 04, 2014, 06:44:35 PM
Dalton is 0-3 in the playoffs. He's basically Romo North.
So Dilfer and Alex Smith are Jeff Hostetler?
Hostetler was a much better postseason QB than both of them. Hostetler wasn't much a game managing QB... he often took risks not needed. But when he was finally given the chance to start at QB, he didn't do that horribly. But his most impressive stat is his postseason numbers.
I mean, Dalton is no Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees (or even a Russell Wilson for that matter), but he's a decent QB. He puts up good numbers and all that. He just can't win the big games for whatever reason. Whether it's coaching or his own nerves, he just hasn't done it.
Even I think the Bengals overpaid somewhat, but if it's mostly incentive-laced, then it's not that big of a deal.
Quote from: JackHondo on August 04, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
I mean, Dalton is no Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees (or even a Russell Wilson for that matter), but he's a decent QB. He puts up good numbers and all that. He just can't win the big games for whatever reason. Whether it's coaching or his own nerves, he just hasn't done it.
Even I think the Bengals overpaid somewhat, but if it's mostly incentive-laced, then it's not that big of a deal.
I would like to see the incentives....wonder how much they inflate this deal?
I don't know this for fact, because I haven't seen it for myself. But there's supposedly a bunch of escalators in the deal, like he gets more money if he wins 11+ games, or wins a playoff game, etc. But again, I say I haven't actually SEEN that, just scuttlebutt from message boards.
You know the difference between Flacco and Dalton? Dalton is a better QB, he may have not won a title, but he's a better QB. Every year since drafting Dalton, the Bengals have gotten better. Through three years of their carrers, Flacco owns one more victory as a starter than Dalton.
I could go into all the deeper stats that are on pro football reference, but it'll make it longer, Dalton is as good, if not, better than Flacco going into their respective fourth years. The Bengals could have let the season play out and have what happened to the Ravens happen to them. In a contract year, Dalton plays his ass off, leads them to a title and holds them ransom and the organization is put in a hard spot. Pay your Super Bowl winning QB what he wants, or walk away.
Flacco is over paid because he parlayed a good month of football (which you can thank Raheem Moore for a good part of it) into becoming the highest paid player in the NFL. Dalton is not because the price of an incosistent QB who leads your team to the playoffs changed drastically.
You also remember, much of that is probably back pay for playing a cheap contract, remember, Dalton, like Cam and Kaep, lead their teams to the playoffs on the first rookie contracts.
I don't understand the hate every time a QB who isn't Brady, Manning, or Brees gets a new contract. Because those guys are available right? When you sign a QB for a long term contract, you are paying for the position, not the player.
Quote from: T-Brother on August 04, 2014, 08:05:22 PM
I don't understand the hate every time a QB who isn't Brady, Manning, or Brees gets a new contract. Because those guys are available right? When you sign a QB for a long term contract, you are paying for the position, not the player.
Does Mark Sanchez count as part of that?
He got a pretty sizable contract that everyone was up in arms about.
It's back! :)
NFL QB's on Facebook: In the Year 2040
http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-spacebook-year-2040/ (http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-spacebook-year-2040/)
NFL QB's on Facebook: Free Agency
http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-facebook-free-agency/ (http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-facebook-free-agency/)
NFL QB's on Facebook: Draftitude
http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-facebook-draftitude/ (http://profootballmock.com/facebookchat/nfl-qbs-facebook-draftitude/)
NFL QB's on Facebook: How I Spent My Summer
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Author says Bills have drunkest fans in NFL
http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/buffalo-bills-have-drunkest-fans-in-the-nfl-081114?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Anflonfox (http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/story/buffalo-bills-have-drunkest-fans-in-the-nfl-081114?cmpid=tsmfb%3Afscom%3Anflonfox)
QuoteWhat do you expect from a fan base that hasn't seen its team make the playoffs in 14 years?
According to author Sean MacDonald, who watched a game in each NFL stadium in 2013, the Bills have the drunkest fans in the league.
MacDonald, who wrote "Ultimate Football Road Trip," didn't paint a pretty picture of what he says takes place at Ralph Wilson Stadium:
"As you can probably guess, Bills fans are the drunkest I witnessed on my trip. That is true before, during and after the game. I even saw the Bills twice on the road and this observation was merely confirmed. Unfortunately, most of them are unable to hold their liquor and lose control, becoming a danger to others or to themselves."
MacDonald didn't stop there.
"Based on what I saw last year, little has changed. Inside the stadium seemed like a free-for-all at times, with fans moving around constantly and far too many in the advanced stages of inebriation, especially in the lower level end zone seats. Beer was constantly being spilled on the concourse and stairways to the seats, making things that much more dangerous. Buffalo, like the many industrial cities in the cold northeast, is a hard-drinking town, but too many fans are simply out of control at Bills games."
Clearly, Bills fans have not read the team's "Fan Code of Conduct," which states that "intoxication or signs of impairment" will not be tolerated.
NFL QBs on Facebook: Hazing the Rookies
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It's official!
Brian Hoyer announced as starter for the Cleveland Browns.
Johnny Manziel will have to wait his turn.
Till like the bye week, unless Hoyer has some serious magic.
Both looked poor against Washington, but I think maybe the middle finger incident gave it to Hoyer
Manziel is still a rookie. Let him stew and learn the playbook. Plus Hoyer really needs a fair shot. He did great until his injury last season.
SELL! SELL! SELL!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381295/article/leveon-bell-legarrette-blount-taken-into-custody (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381295/article/leveon-bell-legarrette-blount-taken-into-custody)
Any good kickers out there? Philly has easily the worst kicker in the league.
Quote from: Cory on August 21, 2014, 10:17:30 PM
Any good kickers out there? Philly has easily the worst kicker in the league.
Henery isn't that bad lol.
It's the preseason, it's when I'd rather him miss his 31 yard FGs.
Quote from: Jon on August 21, 2014, 10:41:42 PM
Henery isn't that bad lol.
It's the preseason, it's when I'd rather him miss his 31 yard FGs.
Nope, he is. He was outstanding his rookie and sophomore years, but last season was poor and his leg strength is near the bottom of the league, and he has been horrendous this pre-season in a time he needs to re-establish confidence in Chip and co. If we can land Dustin Hopkins when the Bills cut him, would make my pre-season.
NFL QBs on Facebook: Let's Talk Legacies
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Sam Bradford apparently is out for the season after tearing his ACL.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 24, 2014, 03:52:02 PM
Sam Bradford apparently is out for the season after tearing his ACL.
Speechless...can't believe this is real. Again.
TIM TEBOW TIME?
Apparently Shaun Hill has better career averages then Bradford...
I guess the Rams got better?
Mark Sanchez
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on August 24, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Speechless...can't believe this is real. Again.
oh it Real ... it damn Real
Quote from: Doug E Fresh on August 24, 2014, 06:50:20 PM
Speechless...can't believe this is real. Again.
Not to sound me I saw it coming. He is made of glass he needs to retire.
Quote from: GM Franchise on August 25, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
TEBOW!!!!!!
He plays for the Browns...wait...that is Johnny Tebow. I hope Michael Sam sacks him harder next time and do that stupid money taunt in his face.
Quote from: Krazy on August 25, 2014, 05:13:19 PM
He plays for the Browns...wait...that is Johnny Tebow. I hope Michael Sam sacks him harder next time and do that stupid money taunt in his face.
I'm a Browns fan and even I enjoyed that.
NFL QB's on Facebook: You Wanna Bet?
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Ben Jarvus Green Ellis cut by the Bengals. In other news...
49ers lose Aldon Smith for 9 games
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11432192/aldon-smith-san-francisco-49ers-suspended-nine-games (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11432192/aldon-smith-san-francisco-49ers-suspended-nine-games)
QuoteSan Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith has been suspended for the first nine games of the season for violating the NFL's personal conduct and substance abuse policies.
The All-Pro's suspension broke down into four games for violations of the substance abuse policy and five games for violations of the personal conduct policy, a league source told ESPN's Ed Werder. Smith will be allowed to be in the team's facility for meetings while under suspension, according to ESPN sources and multiple reports.
He will be eligible to return to the 49ers' active roster Nov. 10 following the team's Nov. 9 game against New Orleans.
"Our organization has known this decision would come, and we have prepared for it as a team," 49ers general manager Trent Baalke said in a statement Friday. "Aldon has taken responsibility for his actions and has continued to show growth personally and professionally. We will continue to support him, but it is time to put this matter behind us and focus on the season ahead."
Based on the length of the suspension, Smith will lose $1.24 million of his $2.34 million salary, ESPN business analyst Andrew Brandt reports.
Smith, who met with commissioner Roger Goodell the first week of August, was sentenced in July to 11 days of work release in a Santa Clara County (Calif.) court after his September 2013 arrest for drunken driving. It was his second such arrest since entering the NFL in 2011. Also, Smith had three felony gun charges knocked down to misdemeanors.
Smith voluntarily missed five games last season when he entered a substance abuse treatment center. In October, in London, Goodell told reporters Smith's aggressive approach to his problem could be considered when potential discipline was addressed, however it did not ultimately impact his punishment, a source told Werder.
Smith was suspended two days after Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon's indefinite suspension by the NFL was upheld and he will miss at least 16 games for another violation of the league's substance abuse policy.
Smith has repeatedly said he has been sober since his DUI arrest last September. He played in a 27-7 home loss to the Colts on Sept. 22, two days after he was arrested and jailed on suspicion of DUI and marijuana possession. After the game, he publicly apologized for his behavior and later announced he would leave for treatment.
While the Niners went on a five-game winning streak without him, Smith's menacing presence was sorely missed. The team still picked up his 2015 contract option this spring.
The 49ers, who went 14-5 last year and lost to the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks in the NFC championship game, also are without injured All-Pro linebacker NaVorro Bowman for at least half the season as he recovers from a left knee injury that required surgery after the NFC title game.
Coach Jim Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Vic Fangio have expressed their confidence in the linebackers, who will be called upon to fill in with Bowman and Smith out -- including rookie Chirs Borland, Dan Skuta, Michael Wilhoite and Corey Lemonier.
Third-round draft pick Borland made his case for a starting spot with a 34-yard interception return for a touchdown in Thursday night's 40-13 preseason win at Houston.
In his latest run-in with the law, Smith was arrested April 13 at Los Angeles International Airport. Police said Smith was randomly selected for a secondary screening and became uncooperative with the process, telling a TSA agent that he had a bomb. No charges were filed.
In November, he pleaded not guilty to three felony counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon, stemming from a June 2012 party at his home. Investigators said several shots were fired, two partygoers were injured and Smith was stabbed. In the subsequent investigation, prosecutors say detectives found five unregistered, illegal weapons in Smith's house.
Last season, Smith finished with 8½ sacks and 34 tackles in 11 games with eight starts. He was initially worked back in slowly, but demonstrated he had stayed in shape while away.
Selected seventh overall in the 2011 draft out of Missouri, Smith had a franchise-record 19½ sacks during the 2012 season for the 49ers, who lost to Baltimore in the Super Bowl after that season.
Terrelle Pryor cut too by the Seahawks...wouldnt mind getting rid of that garbage Matt Barkley for Pryor
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Jets, Bills, Dolphins Merge To Form AFC East Mega-Team In Hopes Of Defeating Patriots
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QuoteBUFFALO, MIAMI, MANHATTAN – In an effort to challenge the Patriots long-standing dominance of the AFC East, officials from the New York Jets, Buffalo Bills, and Miami Dolphins franchises today announced their intentions to merge their rosters into one single "mega-team" in hopes of finally unseating the Pats from the top of the division, sources close to the new hybrid squad confirmed early this morning.
"Today begins a glorious new era of AFC East football. So let us be the first to say, 'How 'bout them New Miaffalo Betphins!?'" said the trio of Rex Ryan, Doug Marrone, and Joe Philbin, co-head coaches of the new super-sized team. "In the past, we've all struggled individually to finish ahead of Tom Brady and the Patriots. But now, New England will tremble against the combined quarterbacking prowess of Geno Smith, Ryan Tannehill, and E.J. Manuel... hmm, perhaps we haven't fully thought this plan through."
The Patriots have claimed the AFC East title a staggering ten times in the past twelve seasons, and were considered the overwhelming favorite to win the division yet again in 2014. But today's birth of the New Miaffalo Betphins, with its 159-man roster, has cast that outcome in doubt.
"Normally, I would never have considered joining forces with those annoying Bills or Dolphins," Ryan later told reporters. "But you know how it is: 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend,' and all that. If this unholy alliance is what it takes to finally knock those smug Boston Douche Pies down from their pedestal, than you can dress me in a green, red, and teal sweatshirt and consider me a Betphin for life."
Following this trend, the Indianapolis Colts apparent dominance of the AFC South will now be challenged by a new franchise known as the "Houstennesseeville Texaguarans." Meanwhile, just for kicks, the star-studded rosters of the Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, and San Diego Chargers combined to form the "San Denver City Chargeroncochiefs," who have already defeated the helplessly overmatched Oakland Raiders 288-0.
Michael Sam cut by the Rams on final roster cut.
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And the world can breathe for another day from the media going batshit over the guy.
Honestly its what he needs, land on a practice squad and try and develop some more and at the same time being out of the limelight. Hope he does well.
Quote from: Cory on August 30, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
And the world can breathe for another day from the media going batshit over the guy.
Honestly its what he needs, land on a practice squad and try and develop some more and at the same time being out of the limelight. Hope he does well.
He smashed a pretty huge barrier. I think the media coverage is well deserved.
I have to be completely evil for laughing at this comment concerning Sam.
QuoteProbably the only black man recently to say "Oh no, I have to leave St. Louis."
Ryan Mallett traded by Patriots to Texans.
The Fitzpatrick era is over!
Quote from: T-Brother on August 31, 2014, 07:55:19 PM
The Fitzpatrick era is over!
Yeah but only in Buffalo...
Derek Carr is going to be starting week one for the Raiders over Matt Schaub.
I am glad Ha Ha Clinton-Dix made the final roster of the Packers. He is amazing and when I saw him play against the Chiefs he was an animal.
Quote from: Krazy on September 01, 2014, 08:42:12 PM
I am glad Ha Ha Clinton-Dix made the final roster of the Packers. He is amazing and when I saw him play against the Chiefs he was an animal.
Of course he was going to make the final roster. It was their first round pick.
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Quote from: Jon on September 01, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
Of course he was going to make the final roster. It was their first round pick.
Lol.
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#Attentionwhores
Trying to get media attention this will fall on their face. If they wanted good PR have Darren Young win a major title.
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In a related story I heard Darren Young will be invited to RAW next week too...
Welker gets popped for 4 games.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/293689/wes-welker-slapped-with-four-game-ped-ban (http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/293689/wes-welker-slapped-with-four-game-ped-ban)
Wonder if theyre concussion drugs...
BEAST MODE MOTHERFUCKERS
Wow, the refs choked up on the whistles. It was raining yellow all preseason now they never called flags that were in the preseason. If this trend keeps up this will be a horrible season.
Quote from: Krazy on September 05, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
Wow, the refs choked up on the whistles. It was raining yellow all preseason now they never called flags that were in the preseason. If this trend keeps up this will be a horrible season.
Eevey pro league is like that. Harp on the illegal shit to curb it once the real games start. The nba preseason games are filled with delay of games when a player on te scoring team team touches the ball after the score of when tey give an official the ball after a stoppage.
I think the refs did a good job aside from a missed call here or there which every crew will have a couple. They didn't figure in the result of the game so great job by them.
Cory we need a Season Discussion Thread! SLACKER
Quote from: T-Brother on September 05, 2014, 04:55:15 PM
Cory we need a Season Discussion Thread! SLACKER
There is one....?